... Philippides, the one who acted as courier, is said to have used it first in our sense when he brought the news of victory from Marathon and addressed the magistrates in session when they were anxious how the battle had ended ; "Joy to you, we've won" he said, and there and then he died, breathing his last breath with the words "Joy to you". – Lucian translated by K.Kilburn.
so since it killed him, naturally, the first thing we do is try the same thing! no wonder marathoners look like cancer survivors...
It won't be going anywhere. They have a warchest of magnificent journalists. 80% of the articles I've read in the last 2 years were not written by Anand. His underlings have the same passion for excellence that made the site great.
They've actually been one of the fairest reviewers of AMD that I've seen. Consistently choosing non-Intel-optimized benchmarks. It's one of the reasons I kept going to them. I actually think it was a bit unfair to ditch the 640x480 game tests. In 4 years, I want to know how well my game is going to perform when the CPU can't keep up.
Ok, I guess, as long as it is not an Apple product. If it is, then all that is thrown out of the window and the product is deemed "great" and worth the extra cost. This is most obvious in the smartphone sections. For example you can read the "android user on an iPhone 5S" article, and he lists all those important limitations of iOS that would definitely turn any Android user away, but says they are "temporary" and inexplicably concludes that iOS is not a worse experience. Similarly, supposedly they would test all important smartphone releases, however they review each iphone multiple times (seriously, check it out), then some popular Androids and that's it. They missed things like the N9, which was probably the best phone when it came out (as I had an iPhone, an Android and a N9 at the time), and don't try anything that could appear too price competitive to Apple devices (like Xiaomi). The Mac/Macbook etc reviews are similarly biased, the site seems to be in awe of Apple and everything they make. As an owner of a Mac Pro, a Mac Mini, 3 iPhones (all company provided) and the experience with them and all Apple products in our company, I am not similarly awed (I could write long stories here).
So, yeah, Anandtech, while it is not as good as it used to be, it is probably still (one of) the best (although for PSUs and an alternative take on GPUs you should look at HardOCP), but be wary of the Apple bias.
but it -is- worth the extra cost.
I don't care what you think, a $150 billion liquid cash savings account is proof that they're doing something right. 1. marketing 2. flawless design 3. fantastically controlled experience
I don't use one, probably never will, but I'm not an idiot with 1/4" thick bifocals that can't see what makes it a good phone for most of the population. Every time I touch one I'm happy to use it.
Toms Hardware has horribly flawed journalism and testing methods, splits articles into 10 pages for ads when 3 would do (if anand did the same it would be a 100 page review)
AC is equating Tom's Hardware quality with the quality of an average MySpace page.
Yes. I'm really handwaving something I vaguely remember, but the worst MLC drives fail at 1000 writes to a byte. It gets worse on lower nodes (20nm, quicker failure), but the nice thing is there is a little extra space added to compensate for that. Once you hit 3% failures, it's time for a new drive-- you'll begin losing the rest quickly. There is wear leveling used but that's a touch problem to solve perfectly. I think 2000-3000 writes is about normal.
SLC drives much higher. I don't recall. You'd have to google. Intel has the best flash controller by far however-- it's the only one that reliably survive random power failures without data corruption or loss.
at those capacities why can't they just make a floppy disk drive? it would be more reliable than a hard disk and cheaper to manufacture. If they made it small enough, it could fit inside a shirt pocket?
As you mention, 15k SAS drives are going to be rapidly undercut by SSDs. The price difference is no longer 10x or 20x when looking at cost/gigabyte, the price difference is now only 2-3x.
Pay 2x-3x the amount for a SSD of the same size as the 15k SAS, and you gain 50x improvement in your IOPS. For workloads where that matters, it's an easy choice to make now. As soon as you say something like "we'll short-stroke some 15k RPM SAS drives" - you should be considering enterprise level SSD instead. Less spindles needed, less power needed, and huge performance gains.
The only downside of SSDs is that write-endurance. A 600GB SSD can only handle about 120TB of writes over its lifespan (give or take 20-50% depending on the controller, technology, etc). The question is - are you really writing more then 60GB/day to the drive (in which case it will wear out in 5 years).
And more importantly... will you care if it wears out in 4-5 years? That you could handle the same workload using fewer spindles and less power likely pays for itself, including replacing the drives every 4-5 years.
I don't know what you're talking about. You can definitely write more than 120TB/600GB=240 times to the same bits.
made more sense for google to own. Watching twitch I've run into issues with the comcast bandwidth cap. We're in one of the trial markets 300GB/month and $10/50GB after that, 3 overages allowed/12 month period no charges.
I presume they took a look at the legal side of it and realized they're just one step away from the Fair Use at "play" here being a little too fair for the game producers...
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what financial interests does the IAEA have that might color their analysis?
meh, they have pretty solid reporting
40% troll?
Slashdot^H^H^H^H^H humanity is broken.
brush up on your facts
there was nothing wrong with travelling wave reactor designs, or liquid fluoride thorium reactors. those would have saved us just fine
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... Philippides, the one who acted as courier, is said to have used it first in our sense when he brought the news of victory from Marathon and addressed the magistrates in session when they were anxious how the battle had ended ; "Joy to you, we've won" he said, and there and then he died, breathing his last breath with the words "Joy to you". – Lucian translated by K.Kilburn.
so since it killed him, naturally, the first thing we do is try the same thing!
no wonder marathoners look like cancer survivors...
will we never go back to it?
after non-free javascript what's next? Year of GNU/HURD on desktop?
It won't be going anywhere. They have a warchest of magnificent journalists. 80% of the articles I've read in the last 2 years were not written by Anand. His underlings have the same passion for excellence that made the site great.
one thing that impresses me is how much aliasing there seems to be between slashdot's and anandtech's viewership
They've actually been one of the fairest reviewers of AMD that I've seen. Consistently choosing non-Intel-optimized benchmarks. It's one of the reasons I kept going to them. I actually think it was a bit unfair to ditch the 640x480 game tests. In 4 years, I want to know how well my game is going to perform when the CPU can't keep up.
Ok, I guess, as long as it is not an Apple product. If it is, then all that is thrown out of the window and the product is deemed "great" and worth the extra cost. This is most obvious in the smartphone sections. For example you can read the "android user on an iPhone 5S" article, and he lists all those important limitations of iOS that would definitely turn any Android user away, but says they are "temporary" and inexplicably concludes that iOS is not a worse experience. Similarly, supposedly they would test all important smartphone releases, however they review each iphone multiple times (seriously, check it out), then some popular Androids and that's it. They missed things like the N9, which was probably the best phone when it came out (as I had an iPhone, an Android and a N9 at the time), and don't try anything that could appear too price competitive to Apple devices (like Xiaomi). The Mac/Macbook etc reviews are similarly biased, the site seems to be in awe of Apple and everything they make. As an owner of a Mac Pro, a Mac Mini, 3 iPhones (all company provided) and the experience with them and all Apple products in our company, I am not similarly awed (I could write long stories here).
So, yeah, Anandtech, while it is not as good as it used to be, it is probably still (one of) the best (although for PSUs and an alternative take on GPUs you should look at HardOCP), but be wary of the Apple bias.
but it -is- worth the extra cost.
I don't care what you think, a $150 billion liquid cash savings account is proof that they're doing something right.
1. marketing
2. flawless design
3. fantastically controlled experience
I don't use one, probably never will, but I'm not an idiot with 1/4" thick bifocals that can't see what makes it a good phone for most of the population. Every time I touch one I'm happy to use it.
I looked into that once years ago, it seemed totally overrated. I scratched my head after that and promptly forgot about HOCP for the 3rd time.
Toms Hardware has horribly flawed journalism and testing methods, splits articles into 10 pages for ads when 3 would do (if anand did the same it would be a 100 page review)
AC is equating Tom's Hardware quality with the quality of an average MySpace page.
shoot the asker?
???
can parent be modded funny not insightful? Insightful is too depressing...
Do unto others...
Yes. I'm really handwaving something I vaguely remember, but the worst MLC drives fail at 1000 writes to a byte. It gets worse on lower nodes (20nm, quicker failure), but the nice thing is there is a little extra space added to compensate for that. Once you hit 3% failures, it's time for a new drive-- you'll begin losing the rest quickly.
There is wear leveling used but that's a touch problem to solve perfectly. I think 2000-3000 writes is about normal.
SLC drives much higher. I don't recall. You'd have to google.
Intel has the best flash controller by far however-- it's the only one that reliably survive random power failures without data corruption or loss.
I was thinking of something 1.44" wide and that stores 3MBs...
at those capacities why can't they just make a floppy disk drive? it would be more reliable than a hard disk and cheaper to manufacture. If they made it small enough, it could fit inside a shirt pocket?
As you mention, 15k SAS drives are going to be rapidly undercut by SSDs. The price difference is no longer 10x or 20x when looking at cost/gigabyte, the price difference is now only 2-3x.
Pay 2x-3x the amount for a SSD of the same size as the 15k SAS, and you gain 50x improvement in your IOPS. For workloads where that matters, it's an easy choice to make now. As soon as you say something like "we'll short-stroke some 15k RPM SAS drives" - you should be considering enterprise level SSD instead. Less spindles needed, less power needed, and huge performance gains.
The only downside of SSDs is that write-endurance. A 600GB SSD can only handle about 120TB of writes over its lifespan (give or take 20-50% depending on the controller, technology, etc). The question is - are you really writing more then 60GB/day to the drive (in which case it will wear out in 5 years).
And more importantly... will you care if it wears out in 4-5 years? That you could handle the same workload using fewer spindles and less power likely pays for itself, including replacing the drives every 4-5 years.
I don't know what you're talking about. You can definitely write more than 120TB/600GB=240 times to the same bits.
made more sense for google to own. Watching twitch I've run into issues with the comcast bandwidth cap. We're in one of the trial markets 300GB/month and $10/50GB after that, 3 overages allowed/12 month period no charges.
I presume they took a look at the legal side of it and realized they're just one step away from the Fair Use at "play" here being a little too fair for the game producers...
Year of Linus Torvalds on the desktop???
I'm sure the GOVERNMENT would (don't worry you can trust us)
I'm not disagreeing with you. These are valid points. And you should have the right to hire the best person for the position.
But this is life.