I haven't used WoW's BT software, but I remember when FilePlanet crashed minutes after the beta was released everyone knew another distribution method was necessary and bittorrent is just that.
Yes, and in general Java is great for writing an application once and making only a few changes to move it to a different platform. Think OpenOffice - it runs on about anything very nicely.
I don't know what's going on in this case, but I'd bet they're just testing it on Tiger to make sure Apple hasn't changed anything. But judging from a couple posts up it sounds like there aren't any problems so if they're wise they'll say Tiger is officially supported in a few days.
Azureus isn't 100% Java. Neither is OpenOffice. That's why these programs have to be tested before they're ported on other platforms. If they really were 100% Java there shouldn't be any problems (provided you're running the appropriate JRE, which in almost every case means Sun 1.4.2).
Great idea! Better yet, if one uses a UNIX/Linux-based routing setup they can directly limit bandwidth. Cut someone's bandwidth down to say 10 kB/s and they'll either stop downloading shit off p2p networks (good for the network admin) or they'll take you seriously when you say use anti-virus software and windowsupdate (also good for the network administrator).
Later in the year, randomly cut loose with trusty nmap or nessus and see who's sharing what. Find an open Gnutella port? Bandwidth cut in half biyatch!
Somehow I wouldn't be surprised if the source has already been leaked or _will_ get leaked soon. I doubt it'll turn up on sourceforge.net anytime soon though;)
I completely sympathize. I run an Apache/PHP/SSL webserver on my Gentoo desktop (!!) and getting Apache to work with something new can be a bitch sometimes. However, I must point out that Apache is also run on Windows, so if you wanted to run all of those web applications on Windows it'd probably be even more difficult. I wish there was a package manager just for Apache that would work on every platform, unfortunately there isn't. When you install PHP separately from Apache in Windows the installer reports that it lacks the ability to change Apache's configuration to support PHP. Doesn't this seem strange to you? What, 64% of all webservers use Apache, yet some fuckass coder working on the PHP project doesn't find time to grab the config file in Windows? In WINDOWS?! Windows is supposed to be all about automatic configuration -- WTF is this about editting a config file buried in the program files?! Obviously I'm being sarcastic. When you're managing server applications, you have to be ready to do some tweaking on your own. Heh heh, now for us Gentoo'ers, editting a couple configuration files doesn't scare us. Not at all. Especially after a single package manager put all the config files/libs/binaries in a predictable location. If you've never heard of portage, you read up on the philosophy of Gentoo. But as we all know, "Gentoo is a hackers OS" or what the fuck ever. I thought the installation was pretty easy...maybe I'm just a geek.
(Why is this post modded so high?) Dude, you really don't know anything about the Here, let me explain how a hardware manufacturer DOES stand to lose a lot when they open source a driver with a hypothetical situtation:
Suppose nVidia turned loose the source code for all of its drivers. Everyone's happy, nVidia makes money, developers make better games, Linux makes yet another step forward. At first. But then a month later, ATI comes out with this card that is so fucking awesome that nobody in their damned mind would waste money on an nVidia card. Wonder how that happened?! It's called helping someone reverse engineer your stuff. Hardware vendors spend enough time reverse engineering one anothers' equipment as it is, open sourcing a driver hands it to them on a silver plater.
The moral of the story is that when a software/hardware manufacturer does something to benefit the open source community HELP THEM by paying for their stuff!
I seem to recall being able to run only 3 applications in Windows 95. Hmm, I wonder if the Windows Key + Right Click bug has returned, heh heh.
At least we're getting that assurance that Microsoft has put the time and effort into building an operating system that truely sucks. We know Brazil needs the Genuine Microsoft Advantage.
Why do I get this strange concern that some dumbfuck politician is actually going to vote for this thing *only* because Linux looks different?
A much better way to spend government money would be to hire software developers, paid on the basis of how many bugs they close on any project in sourceforge!
One thing I don't see people discussing is how this could actually benefit univsersities, such as my own, which often run into legal trouble with GPL software. Honestly, I don't understand the details, but at our last staff meeting they told us we're finally getting Firefox after using Mozilla 1.6.? for ages.
I doubt we're alone. I don't doubt many universities such as my own will be able to buy a licensed version of Firefox more easily (legally) than they can start using free Firefox.
Great find. For those of you who aren't into Linux enough to know those numbers, that's stunningly up-to-date. If you're asking why I even bring it up, many Linux distributions stick with an application/library or whatnot that they know works reliably. RedHat only recently moved to kernel 2.6.x. The reason they'd kept the 2.4.x kernel for so long was that many RedHat users have applications or drivers that are only available precompiled for that RedHat kernel and do not work on anything else.
I've noticed a lot of people talking about how SuSE, RedHat, Ubuntu, Mandrake, Xandros, Linspire, etc. do not contain support for MP3s and DVDs out of the box. The reason for this has already been stated - it is illegal to distribute unlicensed binaries of these libraries. However, no one will complain if you download libdvdcss and so forth on your own.
AFAIK, Linspire is the only vendor to sell a licensed version of Xine in binary format. I've heard rumors of a Linux PowerDVD but haven't found the product to buy at Cyberlinks webpage. The only reason I looked was that there are some bugs in the current stable version of xinelib (if it works, don't fix it!). I do, however, wonder if PowerDVD for Linux will suffer the same ineluctable fate as NeroLINUX, especially upon reviewing products superceeded by open source clones such as StarOffice and VMWware.
However, compiling your own libraries for playing encrypted DVDs in Fedora isn't always easy. It's actually one of the principal reasons I switched to Gentoo. Slackware also makes it easy to get MP3/DVD support. This is just one of the many advantages to using a source-driven Linux distribution.
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I haven't used WoW's BT software, but I remember when FilePlanet crashed minutes after the beta was released everyone knew another distribution method was necessary and bittorrent is just that.
I'd love to see them block their gateway :)
Yes, and in general Java is great for writing an application once and making only a few changes to move it to a different platform. Think OpenOffice - it runs on about anything very nicely.
I don't know what's going on in this case, but I'd bet they're just testing it on Tiger to make sure Apple hasn't changed anything. But judging from a couple posts up it sounds like there aren't any problems so if they're wise they'll say Tiger is officially supported in a few days.
Azureus isn't 100% Java. Neither is OpenOffice. That's why these programs have to be tested before they're ported on other platforms. If they really were 100% Java there shouldn't be any problems (provided you're running the appropriate JRE, which in almost every case means Sun 1.4.2).
Great idea! Better yet, if one uses a UNIX/Linux-based routing setup they can directly limit bandwidth. Cut someone's bandwidth down to say 10 kB/s and they'll either stop downloading shit off p2p networks (good for the network admin) or they'll take you seriously when you say use anti-virus software and windowsupdate (also good for the network administrator).
Later in the year, randomly cut loose with trusty nmap or nessus and see who's sharing what. Find an open Gnutella port? Bandwidth cut in half biyatch!
Somehow I wouldn't be surprised if the source has already been leaked or _will_ get leaked soon. I doubt it'll turn up on sourceforge.net anytime soon though ;)
I completely sympathize. I run an Apache/PHP/SSL webserver on my Gentoo desktop (!!) and getting Apache to work with something new can be a bitch sometimes. However, I must point out that Apache is also run on Windows, so if you wanted to run all of those web applications on Windows it'd probably be even more difficult.
I wish there was a package manager just for Apache that would work on every platform, unfortunately there isn't.
When you install PHP separately from Apache in Windows the installer reports that it lacks the ability to change Apache's configuration to support PHP. Doesn't this seem strange to you? What, 64% of all webservers use Apache, yet some fuckass coder working on the PHP project doesn't find time to grab the config file in Windows? In WINDOWS?! Windows is supposed to be all about automatic configuration -- WTF is this about editting a config file buried in the program files?! Obviously I'm being sarcastic. When you're managing server applications, you have to be ready to do some tweaking on your own.
Heh heh, now for us Gentoo'ers, editting a couple configuration files doesn't scare us. Not at all. Especially after a single package manager put all the config files/libs/binaries in a predictable location. If you've never heard of portage, you read up on the philosophy of Gentoo. But as we all know, "Gentoo is a hackers OS" or what the fuck ever. I thought the installation was pretty easy...maybe I'm just a geek.
(Why is this post modded so high?)
Dude, you really don't know anything about the Here, let me explain how a hardware manufacturer DOES stand to lose a lot when they open source a driver with a hypothetical situtation:
Suppose nVidia turned loose the source code for all of its drivers. Everyone's happy, nVidia makes money, developers make better games, Linux makes yet another step forward. At first. But then a month later, ATI comes out with this card that is so fucking awesome that nobody in their damned mind would waste money on an nVidia card.
Wonder how that happened?! It's called helping someone reverse engineer your stuff. Hardware vendors spend enough time reverse engineering one anothers' equipment as it is, open sourcing a driver hands it to them on a silver plater.
The moral of the story is that when a software/hardware manufacturer does something to benefit the open source community HELP THEM by paying for their stuff!
I seem to recall being able to run only 3 applications in Windows 95. Hmm, I wonder if the Windows Key + Right Click bug has returned, heh heh.
At least we're getting that assurance that Microsoft has put the time and effort into building an operating system that truely sucks. We know Brazil needs the Genuine Microsoft Advantage.
Why do I get this strange concern that some dumbfuck politician is actually going to vote for this thing *only* because Linux looks different?
A much better way to spend government money would be to hire software developers, paid on the basis of how many bugs they close on any project in sourceforge!
One thing I don't see people discussing is how this could actually benefit univsersities, such as my own, which often run into legal trouble with GPL software. Honestly, I don't understand the details, but at our last staff meeting they told us we're finally getting Firefox after using Mozilla 1.6.? for ages.
I doubt we're alone. I don't doubt many universities such as my own will be able to buy a licensed version of Firefox more easily (legally) than they can start using free Firefox.
Great find. For those of you who aren't into Linux enough to know those numbers, that's stunningly up-to-date. If you're asking why I even bring it up, many Linux distributions stick with an application/library or whatnot that they know works reliably. RedHat only recently moved to kernel 2.6.x. The reason they'd kept the 2.4.x kernel for so long was that many RedHat users have applications or drivers that are only available precompiled for that RedHat kernel and do not work on anything else.
I've noticed a lot of people talking about how SuSE, RedHat, Ubuntu, Mandrake, Xandros, Linspire, etc. do not contain support for MP3s and DVDs out of the box. The reason for this has already been stated - it is illegal to distribute unlicensed binaries of these libraries. However, no one will complain if you download libdvdcss and so forth on your own.
AFAIK, Linspire is the only vendor to sell a licensed version of Xine in binary format. I've heard rumors of a Linux PowerDVD but haven't found the product to buy at Cyberlinks webpage. The only reason I looked was that there are some bugs in the current stable version of xinelib (if it works, don't fix it!). I do, however, wonder if PowerDVD for Linux will suffer the same ineluctable fate as NeroLINUX, especially upon reviewing products superceeded by open source clones such as StarOffice and VMWware.
However, compiling your own libraries for playing encrypted DVDs in Fedora isn't always easy. It's actually one of the principal reasons I switched to Gentoo. Slackware also makes it easy to get MP3/DVD support. This is just one of the many advantages to using a source-driven Linux distribution.