So actually, the GPL is incompatible with the BSD as the GPL is too restrictive. All the BSD license says is that you must include source credit in your advertising - which isn't really a restriction, but, rather, a requirement, while the GPL says you can't imposes any further restrictions, by which they mean requirements.
How is ensuring that proper source credit is given a problem? The people at Berkeley (and CA taxpayers) were trying to ensure they got their due credit and I don't think providing it is/was an undue burden on those using the BSD software. The GPL itself imposes many requirements on software, like delivering a copy of the GPL license with the software (Section 4) and displaying "Appropriate Legal Notices" [how vague] (Section 5)...
The BSD license is one of the most permissive licenses on the planet - do whatever you want with the software, no charge or restrictions, just give us a little credit where due.
I don't agree that they're incompatible, except in the mind of the fanatical or pedantic... oh wait... Right. this is the FSF and GPL we're talking about...
Honest question : can Unity be a highly productive DE when it's used as it should?
No. The purpose of Unity is to provide an consumer-oriented environment conducive to buying content such as music, movies, books, etc like on the iPad and other tablets and smartphones. Shuttleworth has even stated that the future is tablets, not PCs. Helping people buy, not develop, stuff is where things are going. If you don't like that, then you're a depressed hipster. Luckily, Unity can help you search for some Xanax...
[ I forgot to include this... ]
To be fair, I have the same commentary about Windows 8.
Honest question : can Unity be a highly productive DE when it's used as it should?
No. The purpose of Unity is to provide an consumer-oriented environment conducive to buying content such as music, movies, books, etc like on the iPad and other tablets and smartphones. Shuttleworth has even stated that the future is tablets, not PCs. Helping people buy, not develop, stuff is where things are going. If you don't like that, then you're a depressed hipster. Luckily, Unity can help you search for some Xanax...
I don't know that it made it impossible more than extremely tedious. The ad clause didn't prevent anything, just mandated that credit be mentioned in any ads and notices. But, if someone didn't want anyone else to know their software was, in part or whole, based on or used BSD code, then, ya, it prevented them from using it.
I actually knew people that wanted to use BSD code - as the license permitted - but not mention or note it in ads, docs, notices because they wanted customers and competitors to think it was all locally-developed code and I had to tell them that would violate other parts of the BSD license, as well as being unethical. I believe credit should always be given.
GNU (1984) and Linux (1991) arrived many years before BSD became permissively licensed (1999).
The previous license, just above the paragraph in the Wikipedia link you provided, is basically the same and pre-dates 1988 - BSD was initially released in 1977. As a user of 4.3BSD (yes, I'm old) I remember that BSD was available to pretty much anyone with a few buck for a tape and postage. My university used it while I was there from 1981-87.
The main objection to the older license was the "advertising clause" (below), which does NOT actually restrict use of the software:
3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software must display the following acknowledgement:
This product includes software developed by the.
...the FreeBSD project has sought $500,000 by year end to allow it to continue to offer to fund and manage projects, sponsor FreeBSD events, Developer Summits and provide travel grants to FreeBSD developers.
The entire point of taking someone like RMS's opinion is based on the assumption that he's more informed than the average person, has dedicated more thought to it, and has come to rational conclusions.
Perhaps he *is* and *has* - Has anyone tasted his feet or run a nutritional analysis on them?
[ I'm sure sure which idea here creeps me out more... ]
My company prides itself on being "competitive" - which I take to mean they don't pay any more than they have to. The economy is in the tank, so they pay less (or lower raises) - you know, to be "competitive". After all, where else are employees going to go in this job market?
Anyone consider that this will be used to charge for VOD / PPV by the number of viewers?
Reminds of articles I read (though I can't find sources now) where video rental companies wanted to charge renters by number of viewers and have video tapes that could only be rewound at the store, so customers could be charged for additional viewings. Of course, both ideas are/were completely unworkable for video rentals.
... when elevators can move in more than one plane: 10 PRINT CHR$ (205.5 + RND (1)); : GOTO 10
I tried using an elevator based on that once. It took me all over the place, and gave the appearance of doing so intelligently, but I never actually managed to arrive where I wanted to be.
Yes. Many a day I used the stairs.
I eventually caved and shelled out the money for a proper Wonkavator;
Haven't had a problem since, except for the occasional child disappearing while using it.
So there's an up-side.
P.S. Let me know when you finish your training, girl, and we'll talk...:-)
... I should point out that having kids actually does make you live longer, and happier, and in the long term more stably, since you have children to support and help you once you grow old.
That depends entirely on the children and the parent's relationship with them. Nothing is certain and to think so is naive.
...the spyware surviving a cleaning by a computer repair shop and the FBI...
It was left on deliberately in an attempt to spy on random U.S. citizens and collect data.
Or.. or... The computer repair shop doesn't know what they're doing.
And/or... (more chillingly) The FBI doesn't know what they're doing.
I mean what is the percent of traffic on the net related to porn and what is it's percent represented on Google?
While it's often repeated that porn makes up the majority of traffic, in reality it's an almost insignificant amount. I'd bet that traffic only from Google exceeds porn traffic by several orders of magnitude.
Dr. Cox: Listen Vanessa Janice Tiffany Amber Thiessen. I'm gonna go ahead and give ya a little something I call Perry's Perspective.
If the guy in front of me in the coffee shop can't decide what he wants in the 30 minutes it takes for him to get to the register, I should be allowed to kill him.
I'm fairly sure that if they took all the porn off the Internet, there'd only be 1 website left, and it would be called Bring Back The Porn.
And most important, to be respected as a doctor, nay a man, you must be an ocean. You're born alone, you damn sure die alone, (looks over and speaks to a cadaver rolling by) isn't that right Spike? My point is, and you may want to jot this down... only the weak need help.
Dude(tte?). You have *way* too much free time. Although, I wish you had been in my college Semantics class way back when, instead of the lazy ass-clowns (hyphen intentional) who took it looking for an easy grade. I had to wait until after class to ask the professor any serious questions to avoid the ire of my classmates.
Racism? Vowels don't see race, color, gender, etc... - or orientation, though that (sometimes) "Y" is a little sketchy. Sure, maybe after a little wine...:-)
BTW. Your example, "Stephanie Peterson?" Google didn't really clear that up for me: makeup artist, model, Psych professor... ?
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So actually, the GPL is incompatible with the BSD as the GPL is too restrictive. All the BSD license says is that you must include source credit in your advertising - which isn't really a restriction, but, rather, a requirement, while the GPL says you can't imposes any further restrictions, by which they mean requirements.
How is ensuring that proper source credit is given a problem? The people at Berkeley (and CA taxpayers) were trying to ensure they got their due credit and I don't think providing it is/was an undue burden on those using the BSD software. The GPL itself imposes many requirements on software, like delivering a copy of the GPL license with the software (Section 4) and displaying "Appropriate Legal Notices" [how vague] (Section 5)...
The BSD license is one of the most permissive licenses on the planet - do whatever you want with the software, no charge or restrictions, just give us a little credit where due.
I don't agree that they're incompatible, except in the mind of the fanatical or pedantic... oh wait... Right. this is the FSF and GPL we're talking about...
Honest question : can Unity be a highly productive DE when it's used as it should?
No. The purpose of Unity is to provide an consumer-oriented environment conducive to buying content such as music, movies, books, etc like on the iPad and other tablets and smartphones. Shuttleworth has even stated that the future is tablets, not PCs. Helping people buy, not develop, stuff is where things are going. If you don't like that, then you're a depressed hipster. Luckily, Unity can help you search for some Xanax...
[ I forgot to include this... ]
To be fair, I have the same commentary about Windows 8.
Honest question : can Unity be a highly productive DE when it's used as it should?
No. The purpose of Unity is to provide an consumer-oriented environment conducive to buying content such as music, movies, books, etc like on the iPad and other tablets and smartphones. Shuttleworth has even stated that the future is tablets, not PCs. Helping people buy, not develop, stuff is where things are going. If you don't like that, then you're a depressed hipster. Luckily, Unity can help you search for some Xanax...
The article is remarkably lacking in technical details.
It's just a prototype. The commercially-viable article will be ready in two years.
I don't know that it made it impossible more than extremely tedious. The ad clause didn't prevent anything, just mandated that credit be mentioned in any ads and notices. But, if someone didn't want anyone else to know their software was, in part or whole, based on or used BSD code, then, ya, it prevented them from using it.
I actually knew people that wanted to use BSD code - as the license permitted - but not mention or note it in ads, docs, notices because they wanted customers and competitors to think it was all locally-developed code and I had to tell them that would violate other parts of the BSD license, as well as being unethical. I believe credit should always be given.
GNU (1984) and Linux (1991) arrived many years before BSD became permissively licensed (1999).
The previous license, just above the paragraph in the Wikipedia link you provided, is basically the same and pre-dates 1988 - BSD was initially released in 1977. As a user of 4.3BSD (yes, I'm old) I remember that BSD was available to pretty much anyone with a few buck for a tape and postage. My university used it while I was there from 1981-87.
The main objection to the older license was the "advertising clause" (below), which does NOT actually restrict use of the software:
3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software must display the following acknowledgement: .
This product includes software developed by the
...the FreeBSD project has sought $500,000 by year end to allow it to continue to offer to fund and manage projects, sponsor FreeBSD events, Developer Summits and provide travel grants to FreeBSD developers.
Hmm...
Problem solved.
The entire point of taking someone like RMS's opinion is based on the assumption that he's more informed than the average person, has dedicated more thought to it, and has come to rational conclusions.
Perhaps he *is* and *has* - Has anyone tasted his feet or run a nutritional analysis on them?
[ I'm sure sure which idea here creeps me out more ... ]
My company prides itself on being "competitive" - which I take to mean they don't pay any more than they have to. The economy is in the tank, so they pay less (or lower raises) - you know, to be "competitive". After all, where else are employees going to go in this job market?
Anyone consider that this will be used to charge for VOD / PPV by the number of viewers?
Reminds of articles I read (though I can't find sources now) where video rental companies wanted to charge renters by number of viewers and have video tapes that could only be rewound at the store, so customers could be charged for additional viewings. Of course, both ideas are/were completely unworkable for video rentals.
Um, this Snorkasaurus?
... when elevators can move in more than one plane: 10 PRINT CHR$ (205.5 + RND (1)); : GOTO 10
I tried using an elevator based on that once. It took me all over the place, and gave the appearance of doing so intelligently, but I never actually managed to arrive where I wanted to be.
Yes. Many a day I used the stairs.
I eventually caved and shelled out the money for a proper Wonkavator; Haven't had a problem since, except for the occasional child disappearing while using it.
So there's an up-side.
P.S. Let me know when you finish your training, girl, and we'll talk... :-)
abstract includes the picture that's worth a thousand words
But only four letters: A, C, T and G.
... when elevators can move in more than one plane: 10 PRINT CHR$ (205.5 + RND (1)); : GOTO 10
... I should point out that having kids actually does make you live longer, and happier, and in the long term more stably, since you have children to support and help you once you grow old.
That depends entirely on the children and the parent's relationship with them. Nothing is certain and to think so is naive.
...the spyware surviving a cleaning by a computer repair shop and the FBI...
It was left on deliberately in an attempt to spy on random U.S. citizens and collect data.
Or.. or... The computer repair shop doesn't know what they're doing.
And/or... (more chillingly) The FBI doesn't know what they're doing.
Lose the beard. Find a shirt. Just sayin...
Just not a red shirt. People wearing those don't seem to live long on the Enterprise.
They're not crazy, they just want to make it clear that they're not going to be an easy pushover the way Saddamn Hussein was.
Ya, if only Hussein had exhibited a bit more bluster and defiance or bragged more about (imaginary) weapons...
... If I had a horse for every time you made me blue, I'd have a house full of horse sh...oes.
I mean what is the percent of traffic on the net related to porn and what is it's percent represented on Google?
While it's often repeated that porn makes up the majority of traffic, in reality it's an almost insignificant amount. I'd bet that traffic only from Google exceeds porn traffic by several orders of magnitude.
From Scrubs:
Dr. Cox: Listen Vanessa Janice Tiffany Amber Thiessen. I'm gonna go ahead and give ya a little something I call Perry's Perspective.
J.D.: I should have that tattooed on my neck.
Damn. Must now resist urge to Google "foolproof suffocation."
Oh I murdered a couple of families on the eastern seaboard, luckily all I got was life. You? I uh..hacked a computer network..
Remember, Peacekeepers have no sense of humor.
One Reddit thread has 3000 balance of up/down votes and 2000 comments and will be trending for a week.
Referencing/reading "Reddit" - that's adorable.
Dude(tte?). You have *way* too much free time. Although, I wish you had been in my college Semantics class way back when, instead of the lazy ass-clowns (hyphen intentional) who took it looking for an easy grade. I had to wait until after class to ask the professor any serious questions to avoid the ire of my classmates.
Racism? Vowels don't see race, color, gender, etc ... - or orientation, though that (sometimes) "Y" is a little sketchy. Sure, maybe after a little wine... :-)
BTW. Your example, "Stephanie Peterson?" Google didn't really clear that up for me: makeup artist, model, Psych professor ... ?
I'd be happy if we can block them from moderating /. Is there a test for that? :-)