Lol. I'd actually call the $40M fine the "automatic appeal clause". Microsoft's probably quite happy about it as it means they will be getting an automatic appeal.
Yeah, I don't know how well an "all your base are belong..." clause will work. Good luck to them trying to enforce it. If they don't want photos taken/published they should not allow cameras/phones. Since they don't own the copyright for the photos, and they certainly can't just assert it, I think they're being silly if they think they'll be able to do anything if people post pictures they don't like. It's like a "you shall be my slave" clause - you can put it in all you want but you'll never be able to exercise it no how many notaries and lawyers were present when it was signed.
Wow, that's actually huge. I live in Phoenix and would be surprised if the batteries lasted for 5 years. I might actually consider the Volt if it comes in at $40k and has govt subsidies. People were all excited about the Leaf but from what I saw it would have cost in the same ballpark (maybe $5-6k less) and I'm not sure the batter lease terms would have been as nice as 10yr/150k miles. And the volt is much more versatile.
2004 called and it wants...etc.. you know the rest.
They filed this a long time ago, and of course for good reason as if they didn't some asshole little company would set up shop in east Texas and sue. As the kids say, don't hate the player hate the game. Our patent system is fucking retarded.
Wow, did you just basically wave your hands and say "what-EVA" in a valley girl voice? What evidence do you have? Have you looked up the infant mortality rates your type are so keen to point out and how they're calculated? Do you think infant mortality rate is even a sign of medical quality versus various social factors? Do you think the fact that Americans are fat should be blamed on the quality of our health care?
Sooo.... What good is having "undeniably the best" healthcare in the world if I'm unable to get access to it?
I do have access to it. So would you if you lived here. Fundamentally, what's the difference between Ahmed in Darfur not having access to medicine and John from Denver not having it? In fact that's too harsh - even poor people in the US have decent health care.
You are a perfect example of why education level isn't a useless development metric. If you'd had better education, maybe you wouldn't have to resort to these kind of ad hominem attacks when your reasoning fails you.
Sniff. Sniff. Is that irony I smell? I think "ad hominem" doesn't mean what you think it means. Note that Sweden isn't a person. Plus Sweden, compared to the US, simply is a pissant country with a small population. This is fact, not a personal attack.
These are not make belive, they are official statistics.
I believe you mean lies.
"Infant mortality rate" seems to be quite clear. Why should you Americans use metrics that make you look worse than the others?
It would seem quite clear. Why is it that many countries lie and use metrics that make them look better than the others?
The US counts premies, it counts as live any birth with even any vague sign of life. Other countries count many cases as "stillbirth", meaning (wink wink) it's not an infant death if they die.
Seriously, it amuses me people would think the US would have a higher infant mortality. Based on what possible cause would think think this? It's laughable, our medical science is the best in the world and even poor people can have their babies in a hospital.
How can you contradict yourself in the same paragraph with so much conviction?
What contradiction? I can get the better healthcare than 99% of the rest of the world because I'm an upper middle class American.
How is the fact that some poor person 5 miles away can only get better health care than 90% of the rest of the world supposed to bother me more than the fact that someone in a third world country could die from god damn diarrhea tomorrow?
Help your neighbors is easy to say when you've got a small population in a largely homogenous society. That's what dipshits who harp on how excellent everything is in these enlightened European havens seem to miss. The US is a large country, we actually have population growth largely in the impoverished segments of society. The number of free-loaders and baby-factories in our country outnumber the entire populations of most European countries. The math doesn't work.
Personally I think Sweden should take on a few million refugees from Darfur or any other impoverished or war torn region. Then they can come tell us how peachy keen "helping your neighbors" is.
Oh god. I wish people would quit trotting up make-believe numbers like incomparably calculated infant mortality rates. Other countries don't use the same metrics as the US. US health care is undeniably the best in the world, it's not even close. The reason we score low is because the poor don't get access to all that good shit like the middle and upper class.
As for education level and other useless "development metrics", come back when Sweden isn't a tiny little pissant country with a population a fraction the size of California.
And what did it cost the USSR? How long had they been ramping up? I'm not much for patriotism, but I will say the US can ramp up a monstrous war machine on very short notice when it has to.
It's the quick fix generation, lazy and entitled. I'm 35, old enough to be experienced but not old enough to be an old fuddy duddy nobody wants to hire, and I've worked in fairly senior roles developing enterprise software for a fortune 500 company. If I lost my job today, I would consider myself _lucky_ to find a job with similar (+/- 10%) pay in 3 months. And this twit who sounds like a borderline retard from her quotes is upset a job didn't fall into her lap in 3 months? Disgusting.
Definitely hard work is a horrible thing, you're totally right. We need the Euro model here so we can collapse under the weight of our own laziness and our massive social spending programs in 20 years.
Oooh, yeah. You should really pat yourselves on the back for a stagnant economy with a huge proportion of government jobs and a very small population growth. You guys will be doing great in 50 years!
What's your tiny population again? Maybe some day your population will be half of that of California and we will decide your model really does work and we should move to a fundamentally broken, stagnant model.
Wow, I had seen estimates of $15k + battery. Nobody's going to buy it in the US, it's not compelling compared to the Volt at that price, assuming the Volt delivers. The Volt will actually work for a decent number of commutes but you don't have to worry about running out of power and being stuck. Even if you go past the 40 miles it gets good (Prius-like) mileage on the generator.
So at that price - meh. Prius or Insight a better idea on all levels, and Volt an interesting option.
Oh bullshit. Not that bad. Driving a car without an air conditioner in 116 degree weather is retarded unless you have absolutely no choice. I live in Phoenix and the idea of a car or house without reliable air conditioning is a non starter, especially if you have a family.
It's not $20-33k without battery, that would be insane as they indicated a $10k battery cost. Nobody's buying a car like that for $30-$43k, people will barely buy the Volt (a much more practical solution) for that much.
Uhh, right. No liability. Because one would expect a consumer Mp3 device to explode if you drop it "too hard". I think 99% of lawsuits are stupid and even I know you're completely wrong.
Yeah, your point is retarded. At the core of GPL (or any license) is copyright. You own the data. The most closed would be you refusing to allow anyone to see it or use it in any capacity. By extension, the most open would be allowing anyone to use it for any purpose in any way they choose.
Doublethink indeed. The GPL "closes" certain avenues of use which are "open" under more "open" licenses like the BSD license. Words mean things.
One could argue that the _current_ restrictive lending processes should be the norm - so if you can't buy a house now you shouldn't have one.
Why would you buy a mutual fund without an expectation of risk? How is losing money you essentially gambled on the stock market out of the ordinary? People sometimes in fact often lose money in the stock market. Again, the norm.
ARMs were a spectacular investment at some points. I bought one 5 years ago, a 5/1 ARM. It just readusted from 4.375% to 3.8%. ARMs weren't the problem, exotic loans including exotic ARMS and overextended ARMs were the problem.
Homeowners who own their home and get less for it overpaid for their home or expected too much profit from it. In addition, they will be able to purchase a new home for less and the person buying their home gets a better deal.
No innocents, this is business as usual. You rolls your dice and you takes your chances.
Don't get me wrong, I'm far from perfect - nobody is perfect. I've made mistakes and learned a lot through the last few bubbles and hopefully other people have too. I doubt it, though, as Nanny govt steps in to help and people have short memories.
And you are.. what, one of the 5% of the middle class who won't be getting this car with a loan on as much of the cost as they can get away with? And of the 95%, what percent will get a _bad_ loan because they don't understand how money works and just look at the payment amount?
We have unemployment. It's rising. There will always be someone available to work low paying jobs, car or not.
No, you misunderstand. This narrows the gap between the middle class and the poor, and it narrows it by moving the middle class _down_. You seem to have forgotten the debt load (even with the "stimulus") this adds for the buyer and the fact that we, the middle class, _will_ be paying for this and for the massive health care "reform" coming down the pike.
So some poor guy can't find a car. He didn't add much to the economy anyway. We, however, will be the ones stuck with the $23 trillion in debt in 10 years. Our savings will be worth far less due to inflation. If you're 35+ plan to work until you're 60 and still not have enough to retire.
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Lol. I'd actually call the $40M fine the "automatic appeal clause". Microsoft's probably quite happy about it as it means they will be getting an automatic appeal.
Yeah, I don't know how well an "all your base are belong..." clause will work. Good luck to them trying to enforce it. If they don't want photos taken/published they should not allow cameras/phones. Since they don't own the copyright for the photos, and they certainly can't just assert it, I think they're being silly if they think they'll be able to do anything if people post pictures they don't like. It's like a "you shall be my slave" clause - you can put it in all you want but you'll never be able to exercise it no how many notaries and lawyers were present when it was signed.
Also, "the employed".
Wow, that's actually huge. I live in Phoenix and would be surprised if the batteries lasted for 5 years. I might actually consider the Volt if it comes in at $40k and has govt subsidies. People were all excited about the Leaf but from what I saw it would have cost in the same ballpark (maybe $5-6k less) and I'm not sure the batter lease terms would have been as nice as 10yr/150k miles. And the volt is much more versatile.
2004 called and it wants...etc.. you know the rest.
They filed this a long time ago, and of course for good reason as if they didn't some asshole little company would set up shop in east Texas and sue. As the kids say, don't hate the player hate the game. Our patent system is fucking retarded.
Wow, did you just basically wave your hands and say "what-EVA" in a valley girl voice? What evidence do you have? Have you looked up the infant mortality rates your type are so keen to point out and how they're calculated? Do you think infant mortality rate is even a sign of medical quality versus various social factors? Do you think the fact that Americans are fat should be blamed on the quality of our health care?
Games with numbers. It's fun to misuse numbers, isn't it?
the highest in cost,
This is because you get what you pay for. Not hard to explain there.
first in responsiveness,
I don't know what that means.
37th in overall performance,
"Performance"? Like fake infant mortality rates reported by other countries? What does "Performance" mean?
Sure hope you don't get cancer in Europe.
and 72nd by overall level of health
Again, based on lies and half truths.
Sooo.... What good is having "undeniably the best" healthcare in the world if I'm unable to get access to it?
I do have access to it. So would you if you lived here. Fundamentally, what's the difference between Ahmed in Darfur not having access to medicine and John from Denver not having it? In fact that's too harsh - even poor people in the US have decent health care.
You are a perfect example of why education level isn't a useless development metric. If you'd had better education, maybe you wouldn't have to resort to these kind of ad hominem attacks when your reasoning fails you.
Sniff. Sniff. Is that irony I smell? I think "ad hominem" doesn't mean what you think it means. Note that Sweden isn't a person. Plus Sweden, compared to the US, simply is a pissant country with a small population. This is fact, not a personal attack.
These are not make belive, they are official statistics.
I believe you mean lies.
"Infant mortality rate" seems to be quite clear. Why should you Americans use metrics that make you look worse than the others?
It would seem quite clear. Why is it that many countries lie and use metrics that make them look better than the others?
The US counts premies, it counts as live any birth with even any vague sign of life. Other countries count many cases as "stillbirth", meaning (wink wink) it's not an infant death if they die.
Seriously, it amuses me people would think the US would have a higher infant mortality. Based on what possible cause would think think this? It's laughable, our medical science is the best in the world and even poor people can have their babies in a hospital.
How can you contradict yourself in the same paragraph with so much conviction?
What contradiction? I can get the better healthcare than 99% of the rest of the world because I'm an upper middle class American.
How is the fact that some poor person 5 miles away can only get better health care than 90% of the rest of the world supposed to bother me more than the fact that someone in a third world country could die from god damn diarrhea tomorrow?
Also, they don't use TNT in bombs, so I wonder what the "TNT equiv" load would be for this.
Help your neighbors is easy to say when you've got a small population in a largely homogenous society. That's what dipshits who harp on how excellent everything is in these enlightened European havens seem to miss. The US is a large country, we actually have population growth largely in the impoverished segments of society. The number of free-loaders and baby-factories in our country outnumber the entire populations of most European countries. The math doesn't work.
Personally I think Sweden should take on a few million refugees from Darfur or any other impoverished or war torn region. Then they can come tell us how peachy keen "helping your neighbors" is.
Ahahaha. That's some sweet newthink there.
Anyone who doesn't think a 60% tax burden is peachy keen is a much dreaded "libertarian". Nice one.
Oh god. I wish people would quit trotting up make-believe numbers like incomparably calculated infant mortality rates. Other countries don't use the same metrics as the US. US health care is undeniably the best in the world, it's not even close. The reason we score low is because the poor don't get access to all that good shit like the middle and upper class.
As for education level and other useless "development metrics", come back when Sweden isn't a tiny little pissant country with a population a fraction the size of California.
And what did it cost the USSR? How long had they been ramping up? I'm not much for patriotism, but I will say the US can ramp up a monstrous war machine on very short notice when it has to.
It's the quick fix generation, lazy and entitled. I'm 35, old enough to be experienced but not old enough to be an old fuddy duddy nobody wants to hire, and I've worked in fairly senior roles developing enterprise software for a fortune 500 company. If I lost my job today, I would consider myself _lucky_ to find a job with similar (+/- 10%) pay in 3 months. And this twit who sounds like a borderline retard from her quotes is upset a job didn't fall into her lap in 3 months? Disgusting.
Definitely hard work is a horrible thing, you're totally right. We need the Euro model here so we can collapse under the weight of our own laziness and our massive social spending programs in 20 years.
Oooh, yeah. You should really pat yourselves on the back for a stagnant economy with a huge proportion of government jobs and a very small population growth. You guys will be doing great in 50 years!
What's your tiny population again? Maybe some day your population will be half of that of California and we will decide your model really does work and we should move to a fundamentally broken, stagnant model.
Wow, I had seen estimates of $15k + battery. Nobody's going to buy it in the US, it's not compelling compared to the Volt at that price, assuming the Volt delivers. The Volt will actually work for a decent number of commutes but you don't have to worry about running out of power and being stuck. Even if you go past the 40 miles it gets good (Prius-like) mileage on the generator.
So at that price - meh. Prius or Insight a better idea on all levels, and Volt an interesting option.
Oh bullshit. Not that bad. Driving a car without an air conditioner in 116 degree weather is retarded unless you have absolutely no choice. I live in Phoenix and the idea of a car or house without reliable air conditioning is a non starter, especially if you have a family.
It's not $20-33k without battery, that would be insane as they indicated a $10k battery cost. Nobody's buying a car like that for $30-$43k, people will barely buy the Volt (a much more practical solution) for that much.
Uhh, right. No liability. Because one would expect a consumer Mp3 device to explode if you drop it "too hard". I think 99% of lawsuits are stupid and even I know you're completely wrong.
Yeah, your point is retarded. At the core of GPL (or any license) is copyright. You own the data. The most closed would be you refusing to allow anyone to see it or use it in any capacity. By extension, the most open would be allowing anyone to use it for any purpose in any way they choose.
Doublethink indeed. The GPL "closes" certain avenues of use which are "open" under more "open" licenses like the BSD license. Words mean things.
One could argue that the _current_ restrictive lending processes should be the norm - so if you can't buy a house now you shouldn't have one.
Why would you buy a mutual fund without an expectation of risk? How is losing money you essentially gambled on the stock market out of the ordinary? People sometimes in fact often lose money in the stock market. Again, the norm.
ARMs were a spectacular investment at some points. I bought one 5 years ago, a 5/1 ARM. It just readusted from 4.375% to 3.8%. ARMs weren't the problem, exotic loans including exotic ARMS and overextended ARMs were the problem.
Homeowners who own their home and get less for it overpaid for their home or expected too much profit from it. In addition, they will be able to purchase a new home for less and the person buying their home gets a better deal.
No innocents, this is business as usual. You rolls your dice and you takes your chances.
Don't get me wrong, I'm far from perfect - nobody is perfect. I've made mistakes and learned a lot through the last few bubbles and hopefully other people have too. I doubt it, though, as Nanny govt steps in to help and people have short memories.
And you are.. what, one of the 5% of the middle class who won't be getting this car with a loan on as much of the cost as they can get away with? And of the 95%, what percent will get a _bad_ loan because they don't understand how money works and just look at the payment amount?
We have unemployment. It's rising. There will always be someone available to work low paying jobs, car or not.
and take hundreds of thousands of people down who are innocent of any wrong-doing and would have virtually no recourse.
The innocent parties in the current meltdown being...?
I'm bating you, of course, because there are none.
No, you misunderstand. This narrows the gap between the middle class and the poor, and it narrows it by moving the middle class _down_. You seem to have forgotten the debt load (even with the "stimulus") this adds for the buyer and the fact that we, the middle class, _will_ be paying for this and for the massive health care "reform" coming down the pike.
So some poor guy can't find a car. He didn't add much to the economy anyway. We, however, will be the ones stuck with the $23 trillion in debt in 10 years. Our savings will be worth far less due to inflation. If you're 35+ plan to work until you're 60 and still not have enough to retire.