True enough, but from a business standpoint does it make sense to spend $100 million over 5 years securing your environment properly to avoid a virus that may or may not cost you anywhere near that much, when there's a possibility that something could _still_ infect your intranet?
I think due diligence (and only due diligence) makes sense for many intranets, there's no need to go all apeshit crazy when all your preparations will cost productivity and may have been for naught anyway.
I went to Catholic school, never got diddled, plenty of good people there. I've met and dealt with clergy in various miscellaneous ways, most of them are fine.
If he was ranting incoherently about black people, I suppose that would be fine too, right? Oh, what, I live in a lily white suburb, how dare I interrupt his racist rant, amirite?
I find dipshit anti-religion zealots far, far more annoying than religious zealots.
Maybe your problem is some priest did stick his cock you in your meathole when you were 6. Fine, hate that priest. Hate anyone who directly covered it up (including your douche parents who didn't go to the police).
Exactly. Apple is cynical enough to do exactly what you describe, and unfortunately it works. They obviously held back on the iPad, and will be releasing a new one soon and their hipster fans will rush out to buy one. In the meantime, what piece of technology has advanced that they couldn't have included those features in the first iPad? Nothing. It's just a cynical ploy to take advantage of their gullible fanbase.
I don't recall even saying anything about women. The 90's bred a special type of male feminist, so it's not like they're all even women - a lot of them are 90's guys trying to show how sensitive they are.
Once they rightly got the vote, workplace rights, reproductive rights, etc... I ceased giving a flying shit about feminism. They have equality, and I'm not interested in the Allred brand of "4 legs good, 2 legs better".
Your argument is silly, Super Programmer. In many cases you're not going to be the only person managing your code. Suddenly everyone else in the world is using strncpy() and you're using strcpy() just to be an ass, and you've got code with different conventions, one of which is just wrong (yours).
You must be coding facile code indeed to have written no extra code and to have handled strcpy() perfectly in every instance with 0 chance of error.
Please, please tell me you've coded something in the open source world so I can look at your code for 5 minutes, find an error, and laugh at you. Pretty please?
I'll tell you what, just to be an ass I'm going to start setuid root'ing all my programs whether they need it or not. What kind of incompetent programmer can't properly secure a program such that it can run setuid root, I ask you?
You're misunderstanding what a framework is. For example, see "SharpArchitecture" or "Spring". I actually think Spring is fine, it's called a "framework" but it's really a bunch of cohesive utilities, it doesn't really constrain the way you write your code. SharpArchitecture, on the other hand, is a framework in the truest sense. The worst are the home-grown, shitty frameworks some asshole in your company writes and expects you to use.
I god damn hate VB (.NET). I don't understand why people use it. Why? Why? I mean why would you use that when C# is available. I just don't get it. To add insult to injury, they use VB expressions in WF in.NET 4.0. It's befuddling to me. Nobody with any god damn sense god damn likes VB. Period.
Perl is actually good for what it was designed for. If I want to script some UNIX shit (simple to complex, but _scripting_) I use Perl. None of this shell bullshit except in special circumstances. The problem with Perl is all these UNIX sysadmins did a bunch of scripts in Perl and thought "shit, I can code this synchronization script in Perl, why don't I start writing larger and larger applications in it?". It all went downhill from there. First, most sysadmins are not programmers. Second, Perl becomes an unmitigated mess as the size of the script/application increases.
Agreed on the rest, especially "frameworks". I have a catalog of about 14 years of code in a variety of languages that I will try to reuse where possible, and shit like Enterprise Library is pretty good, but frameworks are only really useful in a few cases - new teams or old teams with a lot of new members coming on. In those cases frameworks can help constrain the new developers and keep the code cohesive until the team develops a little more.
Moved heaven and earth? They picked him up in Britain after having been interviewed by the police. It wasn't exactly Operation Hard Core Seal Kill there, genius.
Oh shut up, moron. I'm atheist/agnostic myself and even I find your blathering idiocy to be a little over the top. There are plenty of good people in the priesthood, probably the majority of them.
Why should a Java code monkey fresh out of college make $100k? You're also pretending that these steamfitters make that right out of the gate, and that steamfitting (something you need someone to be there to physically do, and which can be an easily cornered/monopolized market) is just like Java coding.
Yeah, don't you know we've got Java programmers working for minimum wage and JavaScript experts literally being paid in peanuts? And I mean literally in the sense of salty legumes.
"Situation". What a joke. I may bitch and moan about my job because it's human nature, but if you ask me seriously I'm god damned blessed - sit in a comfortable cube and write code all day and make 3X what someone who does difficult manual labor does?
Unionization of programmers is a ridiculously bad idea.
Yeah, because I'm sure they want to be hired by some luddite so they can hand-code Javascript and HTML5 instead of getting the same job done in 1/2 the time with Silverlight.
Oooh, oooh, please hire me, I want to work with technology little evolved from 1997! Tell me, can I also write enterprise server applications in C or C++? Pretty please??
Better software? Like what? Nothing competes with Office. SQL Server is continuing to expand into higher and higher end markets. Windows 7 is a very good OS. Nobody's even close in terms of development tools. IIS is a ridiculously good web server these days.
What, you mean it's a superior product people don't buy because Apple has superior marketing? You might be right, I guess, but that can change quickly.
How ironic. GP mentioned how ridiculous Slashdot is on anything MS related, and the first words out of your mouth claim he's some shill. Delicious!
Your point, however, is silly. HTML5 is a toy at this point. Great if you want to deliver media, useless for anything serious unless you want to put 5X the effort in over developing something in Silverlight or Flash.
I don't know if you've noticed, but the web sucks. You can _always_ design a better interface using a native client.
The problem the web was designed to solve (in the realm of apps) was software distribution and cross-platform. Well, Silverlight/Flash/whatever use the web to deliver software - problem solved. And cross platform capability is mostly a dead issue for commercial software.
So I do really hope we _do_ go back to the _good old days_ of a separate client for each network service, because web apps suck in many ways, including quality and cost of development and support.
Honestly, I'm not 100% against Assange due to the leaks. Frankly our government does need some checks and balances. This most recent set of releases, however, was just a catalog of diplomatic cables. Does it help anyone to know the opinion of someone in the State Department on Turkey's leaders? Or Saudi Arabia's? No.
What rankles me most and why I won't cry for him when he ends up dead is that Assange is _stupid_. He's a publicity whore. He could easily have released this stuff anonymously, but he's made himself a target.
Your sophistry won't help Manning much - at the least he'll be in prison for life, or he might be executed.
You're also not grasping that US law doesn't apply to Assange. It also didn't apply to Saddam Hussein, or KSM, or lots of enemy combatants. Why would we need to indict him on anything?
In the end, Assange is a dead man walking. Who knows who'll do it, but I like his odds of surviving another 5 years about as much as those of a whistle-blowing Russian journalist.
Human rights do not include posting classified information that could cost American lives. I was ambivalent on his Iraq release, that was stuff Americans should probably know.
This latest release is pure sensationalism, there's no underlying value to it.
Oh, and I've shit things I care more about than your opinion, dickhole.
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True enough, but from a business standpoint does it make sense to spend $100 million over 5 years securing your environment properly to avoid a virus that may or may not cost you anywhere near that much, when there's a possibility that something could _still_ infect your intranet?
I think due diligence (and only due diligence) makes sense for many intranets, there's no need to go all apeshit crazy when all your preparations will cost productivity and may have been for naught anyway.
Oh shut up, the US government has nothing to do with this you wanker, it was the locals.
Revisionist history much? DEC sued Intel. This was...unwise, and Intel sued them back. The companies did, however, settle.
I went to Catholic school, never got diddled, plenty of good people there. I've met and dealt with clergy in various miscellaneous ways, most of them are fine.
If he was ranting incoherently about black people, I suppose that would be fine too, right? Oh, what, I live in a lily white suburb, how dare I interrupt his racist rant, amirite?
I find dipshit anti-religion zealots far, far more annoying than religious zealots.
Maybe your problem is some priest did stick his cock you in your meathole when you were 6. Fine, hate that priest. Hate anyone who directly covered it up (including your douche parents who didn't go to the police).
..to tell me how many 60 hour works I week, so I can show it to my boss.
On second thought, no. I'll just cut back to strict 40 hour weeks, with lunches, and not a minute past 5pm.
I kid, my boss is great and doesn't care about that shit as long as the work gets done.
Exactly. Apple is cynical enough to do exactly what you describe, and unfortunately it works. They obviously held back on the iPad, and will be releasing a new one soon and their hipster fans will rush out to buy one. In the meantime, what piece of technology has advanced that they couldn't have included those features in the first iPad? Nothing. It's just a cynical ploy to take advantage of their gullible fanbase.
I don't recall even saying anything about women. The 90's bred a special type of male feminist, so it's not like they're all even women - a lot of them are 90's guys trying to show how sensitive they are.
Once they rightly got the vote, workplace rights, reproductive rights, etc... I ceased giving a flying shit about feminism. They have equality, and I'm not interested in the Allred brand of "4 legs good, 2 legs better".
Your argument is silly, Super Programmer. In many cases you're not going to be the only person managing your code. Suddenly everyone else in the world is using strncpy() and you're using strcpy() just to be an ass, and you've got code with different conventions, one of which is just wrong (yours).
You must be coding facile code indeed to have written no extra code and to have handled strcpy() perfectly in every instance with 0 chance of error.
Please, please tell me you've coded something in the open source world so I can look at your code for 5 minutes, find an error, and laugh at you. Pretty please?
I'll tell you what, just to be an ass I'm going to start setuid root'ing all my programs whether they need it or not. What kind of incompetent programmer can't properly secure a program such that it can run setuid root, I ask you?
Amen. I actually had some guy tell me that "break" in foreach loops was evil, and just like a goto.
I then notified him that "return keywords considered harmful!".
You're misunderstanding what a framework is. For example, see "SharpArchitecture" or "Spring". I actually think Spring is fine, it's called a "framework" but it's really a bunch of cohesive utilities, it doesn't really constrain the way you write your code. SharpArchitecture, on the other hand, is a framework in the truest sense. The worst are the home-grown, shitty frameworks some asshole in your company writes and expects you to use.
I god damn hate VB (.NET). I don't understand why people use it. Why? Why? I mean why would you use that when C# is available. I just don't get it. To add insult to injury, they use VB expressions in WF in .NET 4.0. It's befuddling to me. Nobody with any god damn sense god damn likes VB. Period.
Perl is actually good for what it was designed for. If I want to script some UNIX shit (simple to complex, but _scripting_) I use Perl. None of this shell bullshit except in special circumstances. The problem with Perl is all these UNIX sysadmins did a bunch of scripts in Perl and thought "shit, I can code this synchronization script in Perl, why don't I start writing larger and larger applications in it?". It all went downhill from there. First, most sysadmins are not programmers. Second, Perl becomes an unmitigated mess as the size of the script/application increases.
Agreed on the rest, especially "frameworks". I have a catalog of about 14 years of code in a variety of languages that I will try to reuse where possible, and shit like Enterprise Library is pretty good, but frameworks are only really useful in a few cases - new teams or old teams with a lot of new members coming on. In those cases frameworks can help constrain the new developers and keep the code cohesive until the team develops a little more.
Moved heaven and earth? They picked him up in Britain after having been interviewed by the police. It wasn't exactly Operation Hard Core Seal Kill there, genius.
Why would you be involved with and much less bang _any_ feminist activist? Is there a more worthless subspecies of humanity _anywhere_?
Oh shut up, moron. I'm atheist/agnostic myself and even I find your blathering idiocy to be a little over the top. There are plenty of good people in the priesthood, probably the majority of them.
Jackass.
Why should a Java code monkey fresh out of college make $100k? You're also pretending that these steamfitters make that right out of the gate, and that steamfitting (something you need someone to be there to physically do, and which can be an easily cornered/monopolized market) is just like Java coding.
Yeah, don't you know we've got Java programmers working for minimum wage and JavaScript experts literally being paid in peanuts? And I mean literally in the sense of salty legumes.
"Situation". What a joke. I may bitch and moan about my job because it's human nature, but if you ask me seriously I'm god damned blessed - sit in a comfortable cube and write code all day and make 3X what someone who does difficult manual labor does?
Unionization of programmers is a ridiculously bad idea.
Yeah, because I'm sure they want to be hired by some luddite so they can hand-code Javascript and HTML5 instead of getting the same job done in 1/2 the time with Silverlight.
Oooh, oooh, please hire me, I want to work with technology little evolved from 1997! Tell me, can I also write enterprise server applications in C or C++? Pretty please??
I'm sure that bullet point will be quickly forgotten when they realize they can develop and maintain the application more quickly and cheaply by far.
Better software? Like what? Nothing competes with Office. SQL Server is continuing to expand into higher and higher end markets. Windows 7 is a very good OS. Nobody's even close in terms of development tools. IIS is a ridiculously good web server these days.
What, you mean it's a superior product people don't buy because Apple has superior marketing? You might be right, I guess, but that can change quickly.
How ironic. GP mentioned how ridiculous Slashdot is on anything MS related, and the first words out of your mouth claim he's some shill. Delicious!
Your point, however, is silly. HTML5 is a toy at this point. Great if you want to deliver media, useless for anything serious unless you want to put 5X the effort in over developing something in Silverlight or Flash.
I don't know if you've noticed, but the web sucks. You can _always_ design a better interface using a native client.
The problem the web was designed to solve (in the realm of apps) was software distribution and cross-platform. Well, Silverlight/Flash/whatever use the web to deliver software - problem solved. And cross platform capability is mostly a dead issue for commercial software.
So I do really hope we _do_ go back to the _good old days_ of a separate client for each network service, because web apps suck in many ways, including quality and cost of development and support.
Honestly, I'm not 100% against Assange due to the leaks. Frankly our government does need some checks and balances. This most recent set of releases, however, was just a catalog of diplomatic cables. Does it help anyone to know the opinion of someone in the State Department on Turkey's leaders? Or Saudi Arabia's? No.
What rankles me most and why I won't cry for him when he ends up dead is that Assange is _stupid_. He's a publicity whore. He could easily have released this stuff anonymously, but he's made himself a target.
Your sophistry won't help Manning much - at the least he'll be in prison for life, or he might be executed.
You're also not grasping that US law doesn't apply to Assange. It also didn't apply to Saddam Hussein, or KSM, or lots of enemy combatants. Why would we need to indict him on anything?
In the end, Assange is a dead man walking. Who knows who'll do it, but I like his odds of surviving another 5 years about as much as those of a whistle-blowing Russian journalist.
Human rights do not include posting classified information that could cost American lives. I was ambivalent on his Iraq release, that was stuff Americans should probably know.
This latest release is pure sensationalism, there's no underlying value to it.
Oh, and I've shit things I care more about than your opinion, dickhole.