Nonsense. They're hitting the red zone now and the 360 has at least another 3 years left in it. It's cheaper to make now and most of the sunk costs are already sunk. We'll see what he situation is in 3-4 years.
You do understand a [evil, presumably, judging by sentiment around here] Corporation is just a group of individuals, each of which has free speech rights? This was affirmed by the supreme court. So if it's a free speech issue, rabble rousing and making corporations play by special rules is nonsensical.
Exactly, and well put. Everybody things the god damn web is sooooo important. "Oh noes, I can't prattle mindless gibberish on Facebook, and I can't pay my bills on the web and instead have to mail in checks or go to the bank like 50% of people probably still do anyway! The huge manatees!!!!".
Given the fact that certain critical services are now accessed through the web
This is simply untrue. You can find plenty of banks that have ramps and allow you to come in and do whatever banking you need to do.
The web is a "nice to have", as much as nerds like to think it's the most important thing in history. Blind people got by 20 years ago going to their bank, they'll get by now. The "reasonable accommodation" banks, Target, Wal-Mart, etc... make is you can go into their store and conduct business.
These sites _should_ accommodate, but they should not be forced to.
This will never happen. I know it's trendy now to try to make everyone equal by suppressing those with more abilities, but ultimately you're never going to be on an equal footing if you're blind. Why should people who like flashy shit or people who can design truly usable graphical UIs with Flash (or whatever) have to suffer so someone else who can't see can claim they are equal now?
Don't get me wrong, being blind would suck and I feel bad for them. Government sites should accommodate and good businesses should too, but if you think this will do anything real you're crazy.
Personally I'd give the big F-U and do as little as possible to meet the requirements if they pushed this on private business.
I don't know if you've noticed it, but your kind isn't welcome here. SlashDot used to be kind of a mild-right/small-l libertarian hangout, not it's filled with a bunch of Government Can Solve All Problems types. Some kind of strange anti-corporate, big government hangout now.
The EU is not suing anyone... that word doesn't mean what you think it means.
You're correct, of course. A "suit" would imply IBM (or whoever) actually had an opportunity to defend themselves, and an impartial judge made the decision.
So I will gratefully accept your correction, and replace it with "extorts".
An abusive business practice is an undocumented clause in your credit card contract that bumps your rate to 29% if you're 2 days late with a payment. An abusive business practice is buying up all the power companies in a state and increasing prices 50% (if this were allowed).
Creating a product and dictating the price for the product and creating contractual requirements for the product is not an abusive business practice unless you're a blathering corporation hater, which I understand is trendy these days.
Applying antitrust law to something someone creates from nothing is a joke. It should be applied to physically limited resources and government granted monopolies only.
No matter how many companies the EU sues, it's not going to help them avoid the catastrophe they're heading towards with a declining population growth and laughably unsustainable social policies and spending. Their anti-business leanings are certainly going to accelerate their collapse.
Bullshit, unless you're rural. The myth of no choice is less myth than convenient lie.
Cox HSI
Quest DSL
AT&T 3G
Sprint 3G
Verizon 3G
Sprint wireless internet
DirecTV/Hughes internet
Dialup
Probably with some searching I could find 3-5 more obscure options.
Not sure why you think you need more than 3Mbps. Back in the 90's I would have been pleased as god damn punch with 1Mbps, or hell early on even ISDN speeds were a luxury.
There's plenty of choice, it's just that people think Internet is sooooo important they're ridiculously picky.
Guess what, my life would go on if I had to eek by with 128kbps internet. Crazy, I know, but I think I could find a way to survive.
Oh come on, everybody knows the Republicans are the evil big party of The Corporations, and The Corporations are controlled by some big cabal out to ruin our lives. Never mind that we, people, actually own, run, and work for corporations - they're eeeevvvvviiiiiil!
Anti-corporatism is truly the most boring of the isms.
Shush. Don't be picking on his strawman, he spent minutes carefully crafting it such that the inference the reader makes is so damning they have no choice but to become a reasonable left winger full of hope for what the government, if we can just get it right, can do for us.
What happened to you, SlashDot? You used to be cool, kind of a libertarian (small 'L', though there were a few "privatize the roads!!" nuts here and there, but they added some spice) live and let live kind of place. Now you're a smug left wing pit of boredom.
Right, because Joe Average and Jane Mom won't have issues doing what they want to do. How do I get my iTunes? Why doesn't this obscure flash game work? How come I can't install this software I just bought at Fry's? Who do I go to for help, none of my usual friends know much about Linux? Ouch, I just bought an MP3 player and the software won't install on this Linux thingy (yes, you and I know you usually don't need the software - they don't). Hey, why can't I watch these videos, it's complaining about some Silverlight thingy?
The list goes on and on. If you set your non-computer person friend/relative up with Linux you're just asking for even more headaches than you'd get if they used Windows. At least then most of you have the excuse that you don't know shit about Windows and can't help.
The push to move Linux to the Average User's desktop is sheer idiocy. Silly neckbeards, Linux is for nerds (spoken as someone who supports it professionally and has a Linux Asterisk box running at home).
I doubt it. That would be ridiculously asinine. Better hope nobody compromises the phone and finds a fun way to do this remotely. Instead of a nightmare of having to have people bring their phones in to fix them, you have a nightmare of having to replace them or do more extensive (and expensive) repairs.
If Motorola did something like this, they're even more moronic than I expected.
Agreed. But it's kind of silly to complain MS is "behind" in HTML5. They're working on it. What would be hot shit would be if you could use the Silverlight design tools to target HTML5. Then you get the power of Silverlight without the cross-platform issues and the wonky add-in.
Windows API... Lol. Right on, old timer. My grandfather's a mechanic, he swears he won't work on any of those newfangled "automatic fuel injection doohickies.".
Ahh. The truth comes out. You don't know what you're talking about and live a cloistered existence. You do know that the Windows software market by far dwarfs the market for any other platform, right? And by dwards, I mean _dwarfs_. Did you think about that before making grand proclamations about how Windows development is dying?
HTML5? Who gives a crap about HTML5 at this point for anything other than video streaming? It's too immature at this point to use for anything serious.
Most of the languages and ports you listed are not as good and/or slower and/or lag in features their real counterparts. And you kind of prove the point. People have ported a bunch of tools for Windows to make it easier to port your Linux or mac app to the majority of users. But that's not Microsoft. That's the open source community getting its programs on Windows.
And this is just such nonsense I don't even know what to say.
Uhh, what? 2-4 year disadvantage? In what? I can't even really compute what you just said because it's nonsense. Surely you don't mean their development tools? Why do so many people who know nothing about MS's development environment insist on proudly proclaiming that knowledge?
Sansa is cheaper, not always less featured. The Clip+ is considerably cheaper than the Shuffle and better in just about every way (especially if you Rockbox it). You're basically uninformed and clueless if you buy a shuffle.
Lol. You're full of shit. $100 in revenue a quarter? Whatever you're smoking, I want some.
$100 Million, indeed.
Plus the price of the hardware is only getting cheaper, it's more reliable, etc... Their revenue will accelerate.
Nonsense. They're hitting the red zone now and the 360 has at least another 3 years left in it. It's cheaper to make now and most of the sunk costs are already sunk. We'll see what he situation is in 3-4 years.
Riiight. Because I'm sure VMWare is in no way worried about Hyper-V, amirite?
You do understand a [evil, presumably, judging by sentiment around here] Corporation is just a group of individuals, each of which has free speech rights? This was affirmed by the supreme court. So if it's a free speech issue, rabble rousing and making corporations play by special rules is nonsensical.
Exactly, and well put. Everybody things the god damn web is sooooo important. "Oh noes, I can't prattle mindless gibberish on Facebook, and I can't pay my bills on the web and instead have to mail in checks or go to the bank like 50% of people probably still do anyway! The huge manatees!!!!".
Given the fact that certain critical services are now accessed through the web
This is simply untrue. You can find plenty of banks that have ramps and allow you to come in and do whatever banking you need to do.
The web is a "nice to have", as much as nerds like to think it's the most important thing in history. Blind people got by 20 years ago going to their bank, they'll get by now. The "reasonable accommodation" banks, Target, Wal-Mart, etc... make is you can go into their store and conduct business.
These sites _should_ accommodate, but they should not be forced to.
This will never happen. I know it's trendy now to try to make everyone equal by suppressing those with more abilities, but ultimately you're never going to be on an equal footing if you're blind. Why should people who like flashy shit or people who can design truly usable graphical UIs with Flash (or whatever) have to suffer so someone else who can't see can claim they are equal now?
Don't get me wrong, being blind would suck and I feel bad for them. Government sites should accommodate and good businesses should too, but if you think this will do anything real you're crazy.
Personally I'd give the big F-U and do as little as possible to meet the requirements if they pushed this on private business.
<img ... alt="cool picture">. Done.
<FlashShit... alt="cool flash app">. Done.
I don't know if you've noticed it, but your kind isn't welcome here. SlashDot used to be kind of a mild-right/small-l libertarian hangout, not it's filled with a bunch of Government Can Solve All Problems types. Some kind of strange anti-corporate, big government hangout now.
A web site is not a place.
The EU is not suing anyone... that word doesn't mean what you think it means.
You're correct, of course. A "suit" would imply IBM (or whoever) actually had an opportunity to defend themselves, and an impartial judge made the decision.
So I will gratefully accept your correction, and replace it with "extorts".
An abusive business practice is an undocumented clause in your credit card contract that bumps your rate to 29% if you're 2 days late with a payment. An abusive business practice is buying up all the power companies in a state and increasing prices 50% (if this were allowed).
Creating a product and dictating the price for the product and creating contractual requirements for the product is not an abusive business practice unless you're a blathering corporation hater, which I understand is trendy these days.
Applying antitrust law to something someone creates from nothing is a joke. It should be applied to physically limited resources and government granted monopolies only.
No matter how many companies the EU sues, it's not going to help them avoid the catastrophe they're heading towards with a declining population growth and laughably unsustainable social policies and spending. Their anti-business leanings are certainly going to accelerate their collapse.
Bullshit, unless you're rural. The myth of no choice is less myth than convenient lie.
Cox HSI
Quest DSL
AT&T 3G
Sprint 3G
Verizon 3G
Sprint wireless internet
DirecTV/Hughes internet
Dialup
Probably with some searching I could find 3-5 more obscure options.
Not sure why you think you need more than 3Mbps. Back in the 90's I would have been pleased as god damn punch with 1Mbps, or hell early on even ISDN speeds were a luxury.
There's plenty of choice, it's just that people think Internet is sooooo important they're ridiculously picky.
Guess what, my life would go on if I had to eek by with 128kbps internet. Crazy, I know, but I think I could find a way to survive.
Oh come on, everybody knows the Republicans are the evil big party of The Corporations, and The Corporations are controlled by some big cabal out to ruin our lives. Never mind that we, people, actually own, run, and work for corporations - they're eeeevvvvviiiiiil!
Anti-corporatism is truly the most boring of the isms.
Shush. Don't be picking on his strawman, he spent minutes carefully crafting it such that the inference the reader makes is so damning they have no choice but to become a reasonable left winger full of hope for what the government, if we can just get it right, can do for us.
What happened to you, SlashDot? You used to be cool, kind of a libertarian (small 'L', though there were a few "privatize the roads!!" nuts here and there, but they added some spice) live and let live kind of place. Now you're a smug left wing pit of boredom.
I kid, I kid... you were never cool.
Right, because Joe Average and Jane Mom won't have issues doing what they want to do. How do I get my iTunes? Why doesn't this obscure flash game work? How come I can't install this software I just bought at Fry's? Who do I go to for help, none of my usual friends know much about Linux? Ouch, I just bought an MP3 player and the software won't install on this Linux thingy (yes, you and I know you usually don't need the software - they don't). Hey, why can't I watch these videos, it's complaining about some Silverlight thingy?
The list goes on and on. If you set your non-computer person friend/relative up with Linux you're just asking for even more headaches than you'd get if they used Windows. At least then most of you have the excuse that you don't know shit about Windows and can't help.
The push to move Linux to the Average User's desktop is sheer idiocy. Silly neckbeards, Linux is for nerds (spoken as someone who supports it professionally and has a Linux Asterisk box running at home).
Great bandwidth, but the latency's a bitch.
My home internet connection has the same rule, and yet they're fine with me VPN'ing to work. There are various meanings of "commerical use".
Now I can finally use both my fingers and toes to play games on my 22" monitor!
Still not perfect, though. I really need 21 point for reasons I won't go into.
I doubt it. That would be ridiculously asinine. Better hope nobody compromises the phone and finds a fun way to do this remotely. Instead of a nightmare of having to have people bring their phones in to fix them, you have a nightmare of having to replace them or do more extensive (and expensive) repairs.
If Motorola did something like this, they're even more moronic than I expected.
Agreed. But it's kind of silly to complain MS is "behind" in HTML5. They're working on it. What would be hot shit would be if you could use the Silverlight design tools to target HTML5. Then you get the power of Silverlight without the cross-platform issues and the wonky add-in.
Windows API... Lol. Right on, old timer. My grandfather's a mechanic, he swears he won't work on any of those newfangled "automatic fuel injection doohickies.".
You're both very cute.
Ahh. The truth comes out. You don't know what you're talking about and live a cloistered existence. You do know that the Windows software market by far dwarfs the market for any other platform, right? And by dwards, I mean _dwarfs_. Did you think about that before making grand proclamations about how Windows development is dying?
HTML5? Who gives a crap about HTML5 at this point for anything other than video streaming? It's too immature at this point to use for anything serious.
Most of the languages and ports you listed are not as good and/or slower and/or lag in features their real counterparts. And you kind of prove the point. People have ported a bunch of tools for Windows to make it easier to port your Linux or mac app to the majority of users. But that's not Microsoft. That's the open source community getting its programs on Windows.
And this is just such nonsense I don't even know what to say.
Uhh, what? 2-4 year disadvantage? In what? I can't even really compute what you just said because it's nonsense. Surely you don't mean their development tools? Why do so many people who know nothing about MS's development environment insist on proudly proclaiming that knowledge?
Sansa is cheaper, not always less featured. The Clip+ is considerably cheaper than the Shuffle and better in just about every way (especially if you Rockbox it). You're basically uninformed and clueless if you buy a shuffle.