The consumers/residents do pay taxes. FedEx has offices in all 50 states, they pay taxes. If I send a package to you by USPS or UPS or FedEx, should I pay more than the stamp or cost of the shipment?
it's more like advertising I find. Should people clicking a google ad and buying things be required to pay taxes in the state where the original website resides?
No we shouldn't. This would hurt states that highly depend on their sales tax. Florida is a good example. They manage to survive using only the sales tax. (Considering the state government here is pretty cheap to run). Since the state is a big tourist play ground, it makes sense.
If you were to modify this up or down, it could affect how much revenue the state receives. A National VAT could be used to transfer "excess" in one state to less fortunate states. I don't like that idea at all.
"The accumulated deficit will be between $20 Trillion and $25 Trillion by 2016 - everyone agrees it's not sustainable, and that taxes will have to rise."
Well, they could stop spending. They could start to consider that this massive govt. run health care (regardless of your views on it) is something we absolutely cannot afford right now. They could stop with the pork in bills.
So why are we already spending tons on health care? he average is at 4K per american right now. Higher than the supposedly expensive Canadian healthcare (which is at around 3K a person). You can't cut it both ways. You either accept that those with no insurance will be turn away and left to fend for them selves or you give basic coverage and reduce the paperwork and control the price inflation of health care.
Converting something that was unmaintainable due to lack of proper skils to something totally unmaintainable due to lack of readability is not a good trade off.
They don't just do this for pirated crap. They actually are used for legal purposes. They don't promote it even near the level the piratebay was. They are beeing agnostic to what is uploaded to their servers. They shouldn't be required to police the data users are uploading because they frankly are no different than an ISP who offers webspace.
Hum, the GPL isn't to protect Developers right but Users. The fact that you don't need to edit the code today doesn't mean you shouldn't have the right to do so in the future. This is why some prefer GPL code, for the guarantee that if they ever need too, they can edit the code.
I do contribute to open source projects but if I didn't then I would still want the option.
Assuming it's gpl v3 cause I don't believe v2 makes that restriction. And if the requirements is that anyone can compile it with only the source and freely available tools, that would also be a major issue. Is redistributing.net a requirement for GPL apps on.net? No, so maybe this is similar to the key here. Code signing for security purposes is place where this is not a good idea to restrict. I want to be able to say, I will only compile and use stuff that RedHat has signed.
And a 3rd-year CS major would have no clue whatsoever since they have never spent years supporting such systems and don't know what the fuck they are talking about or how complex payroll really is.
That's a really good point. You need domain experts and those aren't cheap for this level of accounting.
I'd be surprised if they had that many programmers, my experience with university ERP stuff points to much less than that. More managers and trainers, and they probably already have what they consider enough (as in upper management) sys admins on staff anyway. They are outsourcing this stuff so, you have the profit margin to consider.
Sadly a LOT of systems university use are that expensive. Blackboard isn't cheap and it sucks. Moodle could work but many univeristies I've seen use it have had issues with professors and student complaints. Considering that now blackboard is a sort of portal for everything, Moodle is just being killed by the amount of features that need to be custom made (that were created for blackboard). In the end, if the universities poored half as much into moodle as they do yearly for blackboard. They'd have a awesome system that kills the competition.
As for payroll, I've heard of some multi-university opensource projects in the works but they are taking a shit load of times because of politics and are built a platform I frankly don't find very quick for development (sorry, had to hate on Java stuff:) just can't help it).
I have to agree with MrBigInThePants, I work for a large state university and I see the same waste but at the same time the complexity of the system is appaling. Unless you expect to be able to fix the inherent organizational problems the system will be so complex rule wise that you will be fixing random one off not anticipated bugs for ever. Large organization like that grow so disconnected and processes are so complex with many exceptions that a system like peoplesoft (even if it's the most half baked thing I've seen since blackboard) just can't drop in and work. It sucks but it's true.
Let's not forget that it still sucks and I hoped they would see that and go "Geez, maybe we can help this new guy out so that maybe they will get us out of this lame ass no one wants these things because windows CE sucks issue"
Don't knock him down for that, the guy is a hacker and he won't keep working on something if it becomes mundane and boring. I can understand that he likes to move on to new problems and work on them.
The consumers/residents do pay taxes. FedEx has offices in all 50 states, they pay taxes. If I send a package to you by USPS or UPS or FedEx, should I pay more than the stamp or cost of the shipment?
it's more like advertising I find. Should people clicking a google ad and buying things be required to pay taxes in the state where the original website resides?
No we shouldn't. This would hurt states that highly depend on their sales tax. Florida is a good example. They manage to survive using only the sales tax. (Considering the state government here is pretty cheap to run). Since the state is a big tourist play ground, it makes sense. If you were to modify this up or down, it could affect how much revenue the state receives. A National VAT could be used to transfer "excess" in one state to less fortunate states. I don't like that idea at all.
"The accumulated deficit will be between $20 Trillion and $25 Trillion by 2016 - everyone agrees it's not sustainable, and that taxes will have to rise."
Well, they could stop spending. They could start to consider that this massive govt. run health care (regardless of your views on it) is something we absolutely cannot afford right now. They could stop with the pork in bills.
So why are we already spending tons on health care? he average is at 4K per american right now. Higher than the supposedly expensive Canadian healthcare (which is at around 3K a person). You can't cut it both ways. You either accept that those with no insurance will be turn away and left to fend for them selves or you give basic coverage and reduce the paperwork and control the price inflation of health care.
Converting something that was unmaintainable due to lack of proper skils to something totally unmaintainable due to lack of readability is not a good trade off.
Yeah, that's just not good marketing.
They don't just do this for pirated crap. They actually are used for legal purposes. They don't promote it even near the level the piratebay was. They are beeing agnostic to what is uploaded to their servers. They shouldn't be required to police the data users are uploading because they frankly are no different than an ISP who offers webspace.
it's copyleft not copyright get it right man.
I don't see where the GPL requires them to provide the Nintendo SDK.
Hum, the GPL isn't to protect Developers right but Users. The fact that you don't need to edit the code today doesn't mean you shouldn't have the right to do so in the future. This is why some prefer GPL code, for the guarantee that if they ever need too, they can edit the code. I do contribute to open source projects but if I didn't then I would still want the option.
INCONCEIVABLE
Assuming it's gpl v3 cause I don't believe v2 makes that restriction. And if the requirements is that anyone can compile it with only the source and freely available tools, that would also be a major issue. Is redistributing .net a requirement for GPL apps on .net? No, so maybe this is similar to the key here. Code signing for security purposes is place where this is not a good idea to restrict. I want to be able to say, I will only compile and use stuff that RedHat has signed.
nah the txters think 10 is actually 0, 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0
No, it's 1 then many. There no number after 1.
What I'm thinking, is this basically another time where those not vulnerable were actually not respecting the spec?
And a 3rd-year CS major would have no clue whatsoever since they have never spent years supporting such systems and don't know what the fuck they are talking about or how complex payroll really is.
That's a really good point. You need domain experts and those aren't cheap for this level of accounting.
I'd be surprised if they had that many programmers, my experience with university ERP stuff points to much less than that. More managers and trainers, and they probably already have what they consider enough (as in upper management) sys admins on staff anyway. They are outsourcing this stuff so, you have the profit margin to consider.
I agreed, never seen any.
Sadly a LOT of systems university use are that expensive. Blackboard isn't cheap and it sucks. Moodle could work but many univeristies I've seen use it have had issues with professors and student complaints. Considering that now blackboard is a sort of portal for everything, Moodle is just being killed by the amount of features that need to be custom made (that were created for blackboard). In the end, if the universities poored half as much into moodle as they do yearly for blackboard. They'd have a awesome system that kills the competition. As for payroll, I've heard of some multi-university opensource projects in the works but they are taking a shit load of times because of politics and are built a platform I frankly don't find very quick for development (sorry, had to hate on Java stuff :) just can't help it).
I have to agree with MrBigInThePants, I work for a large state university and I see the same waste but at the same time the complexity of the system is appaling. Unless you expect to be able to fix the inherent organizational problems the system will be so complex rule wise that you will be fixing random one off not anticipated bugs for ever. Large organization like that grow so disconnected and processes are so complex with many exceptions that a system like peoplesoft (even if it's the most half baked thing I've seen since blackboard) just can't drop in and work. It sucks but it's true.
Let's not forget that it still sucks and I hoped they would see that and go "Geez, maybe we can help this new guy out so that maybe they will get us out of this lame ass no one wants these things because windows CE sucks issue"
Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on 10.0E 5.0E 10.0E 50% /internet/porn
need I say more?
Usenet through some stolen server newb.
Don't knock him down for that, the guy is a hacker and he won't keep working on something if it becomes mundane and boring. I can understand that he likes to move on to new problems and work on them.
I do, and mostly for NCAA Football. What do you make of that?