There's not going to be much, if any, 'cross-pollination'! The two programs are completely different. Sure, from a simple select point of view maybe they seem similar but that's where it ends.
Hey, if Windows goes open source, that means I can use Explorer in Linux, right? Come on...
Sorry about this... but I'm just in the mood today. You should stick to English and say "That's life" instead of "C'est la vive", because what you wrote, well, that's not "life".
Yet, humans throughout the ages have strived to be more God-like. Even the act of creating robots carries this further.
Why should robots be any different? While some humans seek sainthood or an afterlife I am sure some intelligent robots will want to be more human. This movie is the story of one of those robots.
Sure, and if you sue someone and win, does that constitute being right?
My point is, I feel the patent is wrong and should not have been awarded. Amazon perpetuates this by defending it. Thus encouraging inane patents to be sought, which are somehow granted, and now we have a waste of everyone's time. For Amazon, it's not about right or wrong, it's a business tactic and one I do not like.
Legality, morality and being ethical are not the same thing.
My boycott will continue until (A) the patent gets declared invalid in court, (B) Amazon drops the patent itself (C) Amazon goes out of business.
A well written letter, but I must disagree with stopping the boycott should (A) occur. The intention of the litigation as many posters have pointed out is only to delay B&N from implementing such a service. Thus, once the courts declare it invalid, Amazon has already achieved their goal. If (A) occurs, I intend to continue my boycott.
I do feel lucky that computer books, science fiction books and chess books can all be found at numerous other sites. I would hate to have to give up reading habits for principles (read that as: I might not!)
I sent amazon an email and got the usual "we spent 1000s of hours developing...God bless America for recognizing innovation...in litigation cannot say more" line.
Well, maybe it's not so usual a line, but it is still a page of rhetoric.
On with the boycott!
Incidentally, I emailed B&N as well and I think the reply was an automatic one. Doesn't say much for them.
Seriously though, this doesn't change a thing and Java will continue to grow in popularity. There's lots of money to be made and lots of interesting projects. But that is true of many different technologies. Just choose what you like doing and stick with it.
Alberta has two area codes. But, the new one is so new I can't remember! 708? This is a stupid post from me, I really should post anonymously but what the hey.
Yeah, these have been circulating for a long time. Some very funny ones and some that make perfect sense.
Here's something for the Score 3:Informative group. Check under Canada and twice you will see a law requiring homeowner responsibility for snow on city sidewalks. That's almost a law everywhere in Canada! Who else will clear the area in front of your house? Duh. Snow turns to ice, people fall and crack their skull. Let's get the city to do it and see how high our taxes can go.
The subject is a great book, but not to be confused with any Gene Wolfe books. Actually, I am not completely sure of the title but it proposes interesting ideas.
I paraphrase:
Many years from now much of our present data may be unreadable. Not because of decay but because the encoding methods are forgotten! How much of the original NASA data from the moon landings can now be read? I bet we'd all be surprised.
These are important questions and support the need for open standards. In a few years, how many Word file formats will we have, and how many will we be able to read?:)
So you are saying it's okay for Amazon to pursue a frivolous patent, and then pursue a frivolous lawsuit? We should do both. I for one would like to start discouraging companies from such behavior.
Yes B&N should fight this and now they have to (or give in and lose) but it shouldn't be this situation in the first place.
Well said. Of course, I cannot follow the mathematics all that well... having struggled through under-graduate calculus with less than outstanding results.
I however do have an interest in the history of mathematics and you are correct in calling the attachment of Weil's name dubious. In fact, I have seen it placed first. It is my understanding that in the sometimes political world of acedemia egos play a small role;) I believe others have mistakenly given more credit to Weil than he deserves,and he has done little to dissuade this.
Boy am I glad to be dumb enough not to have these worries.
The NT client for Notes is a 100Mbyte install! That's smaller than a full DB2 server. I can't see anyone wanting that. Whenever I have been required to use Notes, it has been slow and cumbersome. The interface is indeed a lesson on what not to do. Uh oh, guess this is flamebait. There goes my score of 1.
Wolfe's _The_Book_of_the_New_Sun_ is hard to find if I recall correctly. I read them (4 novels) around 5 years ago and you won't be dissappointed. As well, _The_Book_of_the_Long_Sun_ series is also incredible. Wolfe has been described as a writer who never wastes one word. His ideas are incredible and his ability to beautifully express them place them in a league with very few SF/Fantasy writers, though Le Guin comes to mind. Why not read both? I've read the Zindell books too and enjoyed them as well but David is not yet in a class with Wolfe.
I am not so sure about Notes. I installed it on my machine at home in order to communicate with the office. Just to get email, and access project group projects. This took 100Mb of client install. Like you said, it's painfully slow. I can't see Open Source(tm) saving this program.
Ah... I have been dragged way off topic... but Calgary was not always a Microsoft town. I remember the days when geophysical data was crunched and displayed with SGIs (pre-O2 and Octane time). At the time I worked for a great company that was innovative and cutting edge. What happened? Well, Microsoft walked through the door flashing money and said "We'll sponsor a project using our technology." From that moment on it was less and less about finding the best solution for the project and more about using "our new partner's innovative" technology. On the up-side, Calgary has the western Canada Java development center and a decent CompSci program at the UofC where James Gosling did undergrad. Oh, please don't flame me because I love Java... I love Linux too!
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You really read the article "indepth", didn't you?
There's not going to be much, if any, 'cross-pollination'! The two programs are completely different. Sure, from a simple select point of view maybe they seem similar but that's where it ends.
Hey, if Windows goes open source, that means I can use Explorer in Linux, right? Come on...
And... isn't the real Bruce rather glib? That could be a clue, because this was a very terse reply.
It went away. Yay, you should patent this approach!
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Wouldn't that be an interesting site? Just take it for granted you won't want to read everything.
Why should robots be any different? While some humans seek sainthood or an afterlife I am sure some intelligent robots will want to be more human. This movie is the story of one of those robots.
My point is, I feel the patent is wrong and should not have been awarded. Amazon perpetuates this by defending it. Thus encouraging inane patents to be sought, which are somehow granted, and now we have a waste of everyone's time. For Amazon, it's not about right or wrong, it's a business tactic and one I do not like.
Legality, morality and being ethical are not the same thing.
A well written letter, but I must disagree with stopping the boycott should (A) occur. The intention of the litigation as many posters have pointed out is only to delay B&N from implementing such a service. Thus, once the courts declare it invalid, Amazon has already achieved their goal. If (A) occurs, I intend to continue my boycott.
I do feel lucky that computer books, science fiction books and chess books can all be found at numerous other sites. I would hate to have to give up reading habits for principles (read that as: I might not!)
Well, maybe it's not so usual a line, but it is still a page of rhetoric.
On with the boycott!
Incidentally, I emailed B&N as well and I think the reply was an automatic one. Doesn't say much for them.
Seriously though, this doesn't change a thing and Java will continue to grow in popularity. There's lots of money to be made and lots of interesting projects. But that is true of many different technologies. Just choose what you like doing and stick with it.
Here's something for the Score 3:Informative group. Check under Canada and twice you will see a law requiring homeowner responsibility for snow on city sidewalks. That's almost a law everywhere in Canada! Who else will clear the area in front of your house? Duh. Snow turns to ice, people fall and crack their skull. Let's get the city to do it and see how high our taxes can go.
I paraphrase:
Many years from now much of our present data may be unreadable. Not because of decay but because the encoding methods are forgotten! How much of the original NASA data from the moon landings can now be read? I bet we'd all be surprised.
These are important questions and support the need for open standards. In a few years, how many Word file formats will we have, and how many will we be able to read?:)
Yes B&N should fight this and now they have to (or give in and lose) but it shouldn't be this situation in the first place.
Hope I spelled frivolous right:)
A better long term solution? How about constructively searching for peaceful solutions?
I however do have an interest in the history of mathematics and you are correct in calling the attachment of Weil's name dubious. In fact, I have seen it placed first. It is my understanding that in the sometimes political world of acedemia egos play a small role;) I believe others have mistakenly given more credit to Weil than he deserves,and he has done little to dissuade this.
Boy am I glad to be dumb enough not to have these worries.
The NT client for Notes is a 100Mbyte install! That's smaller than a full DB2 server. I can't see anyone wanting that. Whenever I have been required to use Notes, it has been slow and cumbersome. The interface is indeed a lesson on what not to do. Uh oh, guess this is flamebait. There goes my score of 1.
Wolfe's _The_Book_of_the_New_Sun_ is hard to find if I recall correctly. I read them (4 novels) around 5 years ago and you won't be dissappointed. As well, _The_Book_of_the_Long_Sun_ series is also incredible. Wolfe has been described as a writer who never wastes one word. His ideas are incredible and his ability to beautifully express them place them in a league with very few SF/Fantasy writers, though Le Guin comes to mind. Why not read both? I've read the Zindell books too and enjoyed them as well but David is not yet in a class with Wolfe.
I am not so sure about Notes. I installed it on my machine at home in order to communicate with the office. Just to get email, and access project group projects. This took 100Mb of client install. Like you said, it's painfully slow. I can't see Open Source(tm) saving this program.
Ah... I have been dragged way off topic... but Calgary was not always a Microsoft town. I remember the days when geophysical data was crunched and displayed with SGIs (pre-O2 and Octane time). At the time I worked for a great company that was innovative and cutting edge. What happened? Well, Microsoft walked through the door flashing money and said "We'll sponsor a project using our technology." From that moment on it was less and less about finding the best solution for the project and more about using "our new partner's innovative" technology. On the up-side, Calgary has the western Canada Java development center and a decent CompSci program at the UofC where James Gosling did undergrad. Oh, please don't flame me because I love Java... I love Linux too!