I have mod points, but I just have to respond to this because I can't believe someone moderated this as informative.
The whole point of these missions is to find out what Mars is like. How can you design specifically for an environment when you are not sure what's going to be there when you land? The design team at JPL found out what they were going to be driving on when the rovers sent their first pictures back after getting there. Also, even with what they do know, Mars is pretty big and different all over. Do you think a car designed for a soccer mom in the suburbs is going to work all the well up in the Arctic Tundra or in an Amazon Rainforest??
And I'm sure they also put the rovers through about a thousand test drives here on Earth through many different terain conditions. Probably measuring particle size using micrometers.
more Java software using gcj (Ant, Tomcat, Jakarta, Eclipse, but not Mozilla plugins, AWT, or Swing)
From what I get from that statements is that the java programs that are opensource (Ant, Tomcat, Jakarta, Eclipse) are now being compiled using the GNU Java compiler (gcj). Where as things that there is no source for (Internal Sun JRE libraries) are provided as is.
Also I'm not sure how you can have a problem setting up mozilla to use java.
I'm going to have to correct you there on the software issue. The latest Solaris 9 now ships with Gnome in the core install, not as an add-on. Perl has been in core Solaris since 8. Staroffice is still an addon, but for good reason. 80% of solaris users run it on servers, and most people don't need StarOffice taking up disk space on their database or web servers. But if you do get the Solaris media kit, it comes with a CD to install StarOffice, no need to go download.
I most definitely have to agree with you on the hardware though. SUN hardware is top of the line, and they have the warranty service to prove it. All sun hardware comes with a minimum 1 year warranty on parts, the workgroup servers come with a 3 year. All desktop class machines come with a one year ONSITE next-business day warranty. That means if you have any sort of hardware problem, call the support line and if you're in a city with a Sun office the next day you'll have a SUN system engineer in fixing you desktop machine.
In a couple of years, that cliff will erode to the point where her house will be in the ocean. Then she can build something else totally different, maybe a bit more inshore.
That of course begs the question, how badly do insurance companies bilk you for building a house on top of a cliff on the ocean? Since I'm landlocked in the middle of Alberta, Canada, I can't say that I know too much about that.
For the moderators, this isn't a troll, it's just bad Canadian political humour, and I suppose I can understand you getting the two confused. Google for Joe Clark.
Did Apple compensate you for the commercial at all?
I'm not actually sure how much I got paid because it was in installments, and the whole contract was dealt with by my parents, so I'm not actually sure. Oh, and I got an iPod. It's like the coolest thing ever.
Only a geek would shrug aside money for an iPod!
But I guess I've seen stoners fascinated by shiny things though....
While adding copious ammounts of storage into the 29 available slots on the SCSI.
Yeah, and watch your performance fly out the window. This is another case of just cause you can, doesn't mean you should! Yes you can put 15 15K drives on one scsi controller, but if you want ANY sort of performance I'd limit it to about 6 drives per controller. On some raw disk benchmarks I did awhile back I found that a single 10K U160 drive having a 160 chain all to itself maxes out at around 40MB/s throughput. Well do the math, in THEORY 4 10K drives could fill a U160 chain. Now imagine having 15 or those suckers hammering away at the bus.
Also the fact that you can't get IDE harddrives faster than 7200rpm might be a bit of a bottleneck. That's one thing that's blown me away, usually rotation increases in SCSI drives a few months later make it into the IDE market. But 10K SCSI drives have been around forever, we now even have 15K drives. Does anyone know why IDE drives have been stuck at 7200rpm forever?? Having an ATA266, or whatever the latest new bus speed will be, would be pretty pointless if the drives are still spining at 7200.
Here at the UofA (Alberta) we're governed under the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act passed by the provincial government. I believe most other provinces have something similar, but I'm not sure. Basically under this act we can't devulge ANY information about a student without prior permision. On their initial application form students have to indicate whether they want to be added to the student directory. And we can ONLY contact them on official school business, such registration. One of the main things to come out of the act is that we can no longer publicly post grades of students outside the profs office. Although it was listed with the student id number only, it was still pretty easy to figure out who got what grade.
The nice thing about the act is that it also gives access to information the previously would have been kept quite confidential. For example if I felt that I was turned down for a job under unfair conditions, I can ask to see the interview records to see if the interview process was done in a fair manner, ie was I asked to recite 25 lines of code verbatim from the eepro100 net driver from linux kernel 2.2.6, while the other guy was just asked to describe how he would send an email to someone.
It's too bad sometimes that this Act only applies to public insitutions. It'd be real nice if a applied to everyone.
Yeah, I'm glad I saw the page this morning before their server fell over.
But I guess that's a good way to get a story on the frontpage. Troll through comments at level 5 and then post interesting links that other people put up.
I don't know what kind of workload or OS you'll be running on these boxes. But if both boxes are relativly light load have you thought of running just one 'normal server' (anyone who's done sys-admin work knows that normal is relative) and splitting the function of the two boxes using user-mode Linux, or Vmware? If each box is a single way, get a dual box so each virtual box gets their own cpu and there's no contention between the two. Put each on their own SCSI channel with their own drive so one's heavy IO won't hinder the other, and put in two nics so each get's a full 100Mb. This way you pretty much get two boxes, but using one mother board. For something like this you will need a proper motherboard for sure, of course the usual something with as fast a bus as possible. Also try and find something with 64-bit/66MHz PCI bus and more than one them so you can split your two boxes even further.
Wow, I sat here stunned looking at your post trying to think of a response. I'm always amazed at people who take a sledge hammer aproach to solving a problem when there's something alot easier and better.
Starting with Solaris 7 11/99 (I think) Solaris has had UFS logging support, ie a journaling filesystem. It is similar to ext2/ext3 in that you can on the fly switch between the two without need for newfs'ing your slices. Just add the logging flag to the options column in/etc/vfstab. And to start using it right away just do a `mount -o remount,logging $fs_mount`. Sometimes / and/var require a reboot to be switched over to logging.
Belkin OmniView MATRIX2 Series KVM Switches deliver the reliable performance and centralized control to two administrators to manage medium to large server environments. Each Switch gives two system administrators control over multiple-platform computers from both consoles. Offering both PS/2 and USB support, the MATRIX2 Series provides superior features such as computer naming and selection through On-Screen Display (OSD) and hot keys, as well as easy manual switching with direct-access port selectors and active-port LEDs. Daisy-chaining up to 16 MATRIX2 KVM Switches expands your control over servers and computers. Two seven-segment displays indicate the administrators' active computer's BANK address for daisy-chained units.
Of course you have to be willing to spend the cash to get one, about $800.
I'm one of the admins for SunSITE Alberta which houses openbsd.org. I just checked the file currently available for download and it seems to be clean. The MD5SUM matches up, as well as extracting and looking at the source bf-test wasn't present.
This really sucks since I woke up only like 10 minutes ago and find that the most downloaded file from your site may be trojaned. I have a distinct feeling that the rest of my day isn't going to be much better.
A week ago I probablly would have answered Slackware, being a die-hard Slackware geek for my entire Linux life. But last week I found out about Gentoo, and I have to say I like it. Especially for security. After you're done the install you're left with a VERY minimal system, there are ZERO services running, hell there are no services installed on the box. You have to explititly install any services that you wish, which is nice because you don't have any weird weird stuff installed on your system without your knowledge. Yes, this isn't for newbies who can't spell ls, but for the long-time unix geek who does everything manually already, this is the way to go.
...under X. I know X-Windows has supported multiple physical interfaces for ages. Someone where I work has an SGI Octane setup so that two people can have individual X sessions at the same time. It was alot cheaper to buy a keyboard and split a dual-headed box in half, then to buy another SGI.
IIRC XFree does as well, but I'm not sure as I've never needed to try it. But from dorking around with the XFree config it seems possible.
And realizing that the submission and article were about two totally different subjects. Did anyone else think about Cryptonomicon and van Eck Phreaking?
Chances are if someone, somehow does get past the bandwith requirements for wireless monitors and implements it, they'll sacrifice security over speed. Imagine how easy it would be then to easedrop on someone's monitor session then.
Speaking from someone who has multiple monitors and computers at his desk, I'd love to go entirely wireless, it'd make my life so much easier. But unless it's wireless with high encryption, count me out.
This will both recover what data it can, and back it up to a stable medium all at the same time.
But remember, dd can be both your best friend and your worst enemy. Sit on your hands and read the full command before hitting enter. It can suck to plaster your english essay over the boot sector of your hardrive.
Okay, looks like they've started using those big fucking ads. First impression, the size of them doesn't really bother me, but the placement of them does. They just seem to kill the flow of a page. Personally I think it might be better if they could shove it off too the side in one of the sidebars.
the fact that I have to now upgrade ssh on all my boxes, or the fact that the first I heard of this was on/. instead of oh say, BugTraq. (Of course, what pops into my inbox as I'm writing this, but the advisory on BugTraq.)
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I have mod points, but I just have to respond to this because I can't believe someone moderated this as informative.
The whole point of these missions is to find out what Mars is like. How can you design specifically for an environment when you are not sure what's going to be there when you land? The design team at JPL found out what they were going to be driving on when the rovers sent their first pictures back after getting there. Also, even with what they do know, Mars is pretty big and different all over. Do you think a car designed for a soccer mom in the suburbs is going to work all the well up in the Arctic Tundra or in an Amazon Rainforest??
And I'm sure they also put the rovers through about a thousand test drives here on Earth through many different terain conditions. Probably measuring particle size using micrometers.
I'm going to have to correct you there on the software issue. The latest Solaris 9 now ships with Gnome in the core install, not as an add-on. Perl has been in core Solaris since 8. Staroffice is still an addon, but for good reason. 80% of solaris users run it on servers, and most people don't need StarOffice taking up disk space on their database or web servers. But if you do get the Solaris media kit, it comes with a CD to install StarOffice, no need to go download.
I most definitely have to agree with you on the hardware though. SUN hardware is top of the line, and they have the warranty service to prove it. All sun hardware comes with a minimum 1 year warranty on parts, the workgroup servers come with a 3 year. All desktop class machines come with a one year ONSITE next-business day warranty. That means if you have any sort of hardware problem, call the support line and if you're in a city with a Sun office the next day you'll have a SUN system engineer in fixing you desktop machine.
What I'm wondering though is how many kiddies will try this on their own ISP's gateway first.
Then wonder why their probe script doesn't work anymore.
In a couple of years, that cliff will erode to the point where her house will be in the ocean. Then she can build something else totally different, maybe a bit more inshore.
That of course begs the question, how badly do insurance companies bilk you for building a house on top of a cliff on the ocean? Since I'm landlocked in the middle of Alberta, Canada, I can't say that I know too much about that.
Well then.
Here:
http://www.sun.com/processors/
or
http://www-3.ibm.com/chips/products/powerpc/
I'm glad someone's helping the mice out there. We on the other hand will keep curing humans.
This will probablly burn Karma, but oh well.
Joe Who??
For the moderators, this isn't a troll, it's just bad Canadian political humour, and I suppose I can understand you getting the two confused. Google for Joe Clark.
Did Apple compensate you for the commercial at all?
I'm not actually sure how much I got paid because it was in installments, and the whole contract was dealt with by my parents, so I'm not actually sure. Oh, and I got an iPod. It's like the coolest thing ever.
Only a geek would shrug aside money for an iPod!
But I guess I've seen stoners fascinated by shiny things though....
Yeah, and watch your performance fly out the window. This is another case of just cause you can, doesn't mean you should! Yes you can put 15 15K drives on one scsi controller, but if you want ANY sort of performance I'd limit it to about 6 drives per controller. On some raw disk benchmarks I did awhile back I found that a single 10K U160 drive having a 160 chain all to itself maxes out at around 40MB/s throughput. Well do the math, in THEORY 4 10K drives could fill a U160 chain. Now imagine having 15 or those suckers hammering away at the bus.
Also the fact that you can't get IDE harddrives faster than 7200rpm might be a bit of a bottleneck. That's one thing that's blown me away, usually rotation increases in SCSI drives a few months later make it into the IDE market. But 10K SCSI drives have been around forever, we now even have 15K drives. Does anyone know why IDE drives have been stuck at 7200rpm forever?? Having an ATA266, or whatever the latest new bus speed will be, would be pretty pointless if the drives are still spining at 7200.
Here at the UofA (Alberta) we're governed under the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act passed by the provincial government. I believe most other provinces have something similar, but I'm not sure. Basically under this act we can't devulge ANY information about a student without prior permision. On their initial application form students have to indicate whether they want to be added to the student directory. And we can ONLY contact them on official school business, such registration. One of the main things to come out of the act is that we can no longer publicly post grades of students outside the profs office. Although it was listed with the student id number only, it was still pretty easy to figure out who got what grade.
The nice thing about the act is that it also gives access to information the previously would have been kept quite confidential. For example if I felt that I was turned down for a job under unfair conditions, I can ask to see the interview records to see if the interview process was done in a fair manner, ie was I asked to recite 25 lines of code verbatim from the eepro100 net driver from linux kernel 2.2.6, while the other guy was just asked to describe how he would send an email to someone.
It's too bad sometimes that this Act only applies to public insitutions. It'd be real nice if a applied to everyone.
Yeah, I'm glad I saw the page this morning before their server fell over.
But I guess that's a good way to get a story on the frontpage. Troll through comments at level 5 and then post interesting links that other people put up.
I don't know what kind of workload or OS you'll be running on these boxes. But if both boxes are relativly light load have you thought of running just one 'normal server' (anyone who's done sys-admin work knows that normal is relative) and splitting the function of the two boxes using user-mode Linux, or Vmware? If each box is a single way, get a dual box so each virtual box gets their own cpu and there's no contention between the two. Put each on their own SCSI channel with their own drive so one's heavy IO won't hinder the other, and put in two nics so each get's a full 100Mb. This way you pretty much get two boxes, but using one mother board. For something like this you will need a proper motherboard for sure, of course the usual something with as fast a bus as possible. Also try and find something with 64-bit/66MHz PCI bus and more than one them so you can split your two boxes even further.
Wow, I sat here stunned looking at your post trying to think of a response. I'm always amazed at people who take a sledge hammer aproach to solving a problem when there's something alot easier and better.
/etc/vfstab. And to start using it right away just do a `mount -o remount,logging $fs_mount`. Sometimes / and /var require a reboot to be switched over to logging.
Starting with Solaris 7 11/99 (I think) Solaris has had UFS logging support, ie a journaling filesystem. It is similar to ext2/ext3 in that you can on the fly switch between the two without need for newfs'ing your slices. Just add the logging flag to the options column in
You mean like one of these.
Excerpt from page:
Belkin OmniView MATRIX2 Series KVM Switches deliver the reliable performance and centralized control to two administrators to manage medium to large server environments. Each Switch gives two system administrators control over multiple-platform computers from both consoles. Offering both PS/2 and USB support, the MATRIX2 Series provides superior features such as computer naming and selection through On-Screen Display (OSD) and hot keys, as well as easy manual switching with direct-access port selectors and active-port LEDs. Daisy-chaining up to 16 MATRIX2 KVM Switches expands your control over servers and computers. Two seven-segment displays indicate the administrators' active computer's BANK address for daisy-chained units.
Of course you have to be willing to spend the cash to get one, about $800.
I'm one of the admins for SunSITE Alberta which houses openbsd.org. I just checked the file currently available for download and it seems to be clean. The MD5SUM matches up, as well as extracting and looking at the source bf-test wasn't present.
This really sucks since I woke up only like 10 minutes ago and find that the most downloaded file from your site may be trojaned. I have a distinct feeling that the rest of my day isn't going to be much better.
A week ago I probablly would have answered Slackware, being a die-hard Slackware geek for my entire Linux life. But last week I found out about Gentoo, and I have to say I like it. Especially for security. After you're done the install you're left with a VERY minimal system, there are ZERO services running, hell there are no services installed on the box. You have to explititly install any services that you wish, which is nice because you don't have any weird weird stuff installed on your system without your knowledge. Yes, this isn't for newbies who can't spell ls, but for the long-time unix geek who does everything manually already, this is the way to go.
...under X. I know X-Windows has supported multiple physical interfaces for ages. Someone where I work has an SGI Octane setup so that two people can have individual X sessions at the same time. It was alot cheaper to buy a keyboard and split a dual-headed box in half, then to buy another SGI.
IIRC XFree does as well, but I'm not sure as I've never needed to try it. But from dorking around with the XFree config it seems possible.
Hey Taco, since you've been a bit busy this weekend why don't you actually READ your site first and catch up, BEFORE going through the submission bin.
And realizing that the submission and article were about two totally different subjects. Did anyone else think about Cryptonomicon and van Eck Phreaking?
Chances are if someone, somehow does get past the bandwith requirements for wireless monitors and implements it, they'll sacrifice security over speed. Imagine how easy it would be then to easedrop on someone's monitor session then.
Speaking from someone who has multiple monitors and computers at his desk, I'd love to go entirely wireless, it'd make my life so much easier. But unless it's wireless with high encryption, count me out.
Then just do a:
dd if=/dev/sg?? bs=1024 | strings | lpr
This will both recover what data it can, and back it up to a stable medium all at the same time.
But remember, dd can be both your best friend and your worst enemy. Sit on your hands and read the full command before hitting enter. It can suck to plaster your english essay over the boot sector of your hardrive.
Okay, looks like they've started using those big fucking ads. First impression, the size of them doesn't really bother me, but the placement of them does. They just seem to kill the flow of a page. Personally I think it might be better if they could shove it off too the side in one of the sidebars.
the fact that I have to now upgrade ssh on all my boxes, or the fact that the first I heard of this was on /. instead of oh say, BugTraq.
(Of course, what pops into my inbox as I'm writing this, but the advisory on BugTraq.)
That's one beowulf cluster that I DON'T want to imagine.