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Google Releases an API for Their Database

Ben Wills writes "Yahoo! announced that Google Released an API last Thursday. "The service, launched Thursday, is called Google Web APIs, for application programming interfaces. The tools let noncommercial software developers "query more than 2 billion Web documents directly from their own computer programs," according to Google's Web site. For now, the service is free." Google just keeps pushing the limits."

202 comments

  1. I hate duplicate posts! by @madeus · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Lousy editing, grr :/

    1. Re:I hate duplicate posts! by @madeus · · Score: 1

      Moderation Totals:
      Redundant=3, Insightful=1, Informative=1, Overrated=1, Underrated=2, Total=8.

      LOL. Talk about a waste of mod points on an FP!

      I just want the UID of that sumbitch who wasted three just to burn my karma...

      Damn no good hippy I'll bet.

  2. Yes its a repeat. by checkitout · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Do we need 1000 (repeated) posts about how this is a repeat?

    I didn't think so.

    1. Re:Yes its a repeat. by Grape+Shasta · · Score: 0, Redundant
      Do we need 1000 (repeated) posts about how this is a repeat?

      Dude, I think someone already posted that there are too many repeated posts about this repeat story. In fact, this story was posted last week, and someone already commented here that we don't need more repeat posts about it being a repeat. To reiterate, it's redundant. Thank you.

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  3. Dupe! by cygnusx · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Delete this, it doesn't have too many posts.

  4. Wasn't this just on.. 3 Days ago? by dcavens · · Score: 0, Redundant

    The same article was posted on Friday.

    Glad to see that Slashdot editors read slashdot.

  5. repeat by rograndom · · Score: 0, Redundant

    and slashdot announced it friday.

  6. for those who don't like Yahoo... by WebMasterJoe · · Score: 3, Informative

    I try not to give Yahoo any more hits after they messed up their privacy poolicy, so here's the same exact story on CNET: http://news.com.com/2100-1023-882252.html.

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    1. Re:for those who don't like Yahoo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can also find the exact same story at this site if you don't like cnet either.

    2. Re:for those who don't like Yahoo... by markhb · · Score: 3, Funny

      I try not to give Yahoo any more hits after they messed up their privacy poolicy, so here's the same exact story on Slashdot:
      http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/04/12/112821 0&mode=nested.

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    3. Re:for those who don't like Yahoo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I try not to give cnet any more clicks to CNET since they called online games heroinware, heres a link on goatse instead: Google API coverage at goatse.cx

    4. Re:for those who don't like Yahoo... by mobiGeek · · Score: 3, Funny

      I try not to give Slashdot any more hits after they keep posting dupes, so here's the story as posted on Yahoo! http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=7 0&e=3&cid=70&u=/cn/20020415/tc_cn/google_tests_sea rch_tools_for_developers.

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    5. Re:for those who don't like Yahoo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HAHAHAHAHA you messed up the goatse.cx link!!!

  7. smells like a duplicate post! by jdbo · · Score: 0, Redundant

    different article about it, but here's Hemos's original post: post.

    blarg.

  8. You may take our lives, but you cannot take... by delphin42 · · Score: 1

    our freedom!!!

    The spirit of the internet is alive and well, it seems. Google isn't charging for their API, ID released the source to Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Now, if only yahoo would announce that their pay for POP access was only a cruel April fools joke???

    I won't hold my breath.

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  9. We have all been here by wiredog · · Score: 0, Redundant
    1. Re:We have all been here by buzban · · Score: 0, Redundant

      when score=2: redundant is and should be a positive score...terrible...

  10. since this article is duplicate, I want to Ask /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting
    ...how to cope with an insecure girlfriend. Specifically, one that thinks everything I say, or do, is done to ridicule her. One who is convinced that I find her stupid, when all evidence points to the contrary.

    And woe betide when I occasionally criticise her for real, as opposed to in her mind.

    Thanks.

  11. No support for image or usenet queries... by casio282 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Sadly, though, there is no support in the API for queries on their image or usenet "groups" indices, according to the API FAQ:
    2. Can Google APIs be used to access Google Groups? Image search? Directory search?

    No. The Google Web APIs service can only be used to search Google's main index of 2 billion web pages.

    I'll have to keep on parsin'... Maybe some day.
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    1. Re:No support for image or usenet queries... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Just curious, but do the moderators understand the word "insightful?"

  12. Is that safe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I`m wondering whether this will make easier for some cracker-wannabe (note I didn't say "hacker", don't start flaming) to set-up some DoS attack on Google. Of course I hope not, but it seems that bringing an API to query the DB directly could be a bit too "raw".
    I guess the Google guys are not that naive, though.

    Just giving an idea, of course.

  13. For the sake of the revolution of the world! by Agelmar · · Score: 4, Funny

    The world can now be revolutionized! We can get Google searches on Microsoft.com! The pigeons will come out of their cages and peck the buttons on the Microsoft servers, thus shutting down the evil megacorporation! Hail Google for saving the world! The pigeons will save us all, hail the open API!

  14. useful for sorting by oever · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now we can sort strings in order of google hits!

    Wow, very nice for word completion

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  15. Slashdot Releases an API for Their Database by ajakk · · Score: 5, Funny

    PsPrEditor writes: "Yahoo announced that Slashdot Released an API last Monday. "The service, launched Monday, is called SlashPI. It will allow users to remove duplicate stories that have been plaguing /. for the past year. ""

    1. Re:Slashdot Releases an API for Their Database by jeffehobbs · · Score: 5, Funny

      In other news, PsPrEditor writes: "Yahoo announced that Slashdot Released an API last Monday. "The service, launched Monday, is called SlashPI. It will allow users to remove duplicate stories that have been plaguing /. for the past year. ""

    2. Re:Slashdot Releases an API for Their Database by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, subtle. Very nice. :-)

    3. Re:Slashdot Releases an API for Their Database by 1110110001 · · Score: 1

      What they really wanted to say was: "ha Yahoo we days before you. You lamers!"

      b4n

    4. Re:Slashdot Releases an API for Their Database by 1110110001 · · Score: 1

      Shoudln't try to post with bad people around.

      What they really wanted to say was: "ha Yahoo we posted this days before you. You lamers!"

  16. Recursion by Yoda2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can it be used to query for Slashdot stories on the Google API?

  17. Re:Ha-ha! by wheany · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    W00t! I got it! Now give me a +1 funny!

  18. Google saving bandwidth? by shaldannon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why do I get the feeling that Google is doing this to save bandwidth? How many people do you thing scrape Google for results? How much load are they going to save if people use the API rather than searching and scraping? That's what I thought...

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    1. Re:Google saving bandwidth? by jlanng · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Probably not a great deal. Remember that when you're 'scraping' from HTML, you don't have to load images, css resources etc

    2. Re:Google saving bandwidth? by mattdm · · Score: 2

      Well, I set up a Black & White * Sucks-Rules-O-Meter getting its results from Google -- just one query a day. After about a month, they noticed it and banned my IP from doing that search.

      Since that's probably pretty effective in most cases, I'd guess they're not really saving bandwidth with this API, especially since it'll encourage *more* people to do scripted searches (and since the html page is pretty small anyway).

      I think they're doing it to appear cool to computer geeks. Works for me....

      * the game

    3. Re:Google saving bandwidth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With 5000 computers running 24/7, somehow I think electricity, repairs, rent, etc. is a lot more of the cost than bandwidth.

    4. Re:Google saving bandwidth? by babbage · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Well, exactly. This is really where things should be going. Think about it. If a user can express exactly what they want from an online resource in a terse but complete way, then both the user and the resource provider come out ahead. Neither side wants to deal with the extra overhead of serving whole pages of HTML formatting when [a] you just want the hits on a given search query and [b] Google doesn't want to pay the extra bandwidth charges.

      Allowing power users to target requests more efficiently is a boost to both sides here -- even if Google doesn't charge a nominal fee for this, the bandwidth savings could still put them ahead of where they would have been under a more traditional HTTP/HTML transaction. You phrase your comment in a very cynical way, but really this seems like a great thing to me. One of the biggest burdens in getting info from the web is having to manually scrape it out of a web browser (or muck around with say LWP and HTML parsers). With an API like this, we can see more applications such as Watson, that aggregate the data & cut through all the web crap that makes finding information tedious. This is where everything is going with SOAP, .NET, MONO, XML-RPC, and so on, and I for one am glad to see a great company like Google leading the way.

    5. Re:Google saving bandwidth? by bombom · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but think about all the lost advertising revenue.

      For each search you do, Google gets to display a banner to you + those related advertisers links on the right of the screen.

      Now multiply that by 2 million a day. And by the number of users who will do this.

      Yeah, thats what I though...

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    6. Re:Google saving bandwidth? by rob_from_ca · · Score: 2

      Don't think they'll be saving much bandwidth. Those XML/SOAP requests passing back and forth aren't exactly lightweight, probably about the same as the HTML for a page. And the logo of course is cached everywhere. :-)

    7. Re:Google saving bandwidth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wahahahahahah!

      Price out bandwidth sometime. Last I checked $26,000 per *month* for a T3 was on the cheap side.

      Fiber gets you more BW per $ but IIRC it's only on the order of 10-20% less than T3, and that's only after you buy 2-3 T3s.

  19. Re:Which is more funny? by Vernalex · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Let me try this again... Which is more funny? The fact that this article is a repeat or that everybody points it out repeatedly?

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  20. Re:Elegy for *BSD by ethereal · · Score: 0

    Too bad - I was really hoping you could work in "charnel house" somewhere, but I suppose that's tough in the rhyme and meter that you've chosen.

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  21. Google Stock Exchange by tringstad · · Score: 1

    I posted this the last time, but since it didn't get much notice (I posted it quite late), I'll repeat myself.

    It seems there is still time to enter the Google Programming Contest and although I have neither the time nor the skill to do it, I do have an interesting idea if someone else wants to take a shot at it.

    Years ago, The Hollywood Stock Exchange was a somewhat popular game (maybe it still is, but it doesn't really interest me). The general idea being that you could "Buy shares of your favorite actors, movies, and music artists and watch their values rise or fall based on the success of their careers and personal life."

    It would be interesting to see a similar game based on the popularity of queries. It's clear from the Google Zeitgeist that certain search terms do gain and lose popularity on a regular basis, and for someone tapped in to mainstream culture, it may not be too hard to predict.

    I suppose you could do the same thing with the other info there (Browsers, OSs, Current Events, etc.) but I don't think it would be as interesting. Although... Anime searches might be neat.

    Anyhow, just an idea I'd love to see someone run with.

    -Tommy

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    1. Re:Google Stock Exchange by clone304 · · Score: 1


      Yeah, all we need is 30,000 script kiddies running distributed trojan bots that query google for the terms that the kiddie has just bought stock in.

    2. Re:Google Stock Exchange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Of what possible use could a "distributed trojan bot that queries goole" be?

      2. To say something shouldn't be done, because the script kiddies will come, is to imply that nothing should ever be done.

    3. Re:Google Stock Exchange by tps12 · · Score: 2

      That's a cool idea. And that's a great page! I was surprised to see that Mac users search on Google four times as much as do Linux users. I guess I have a warped perception of the number of Linux users...

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  22. What's most funny by haggar · · Score: 1, Funny

    is that the first time it was posted on Slashdot, it was CmdrTaco himself!

    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/04/06/1354 22 3&mode=nested

    And then came Hemos (the one to whom most of you refer as the "first" post...)
    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/04 /12/112821 0&mode=nested

    I think CmdrTaco needs something for memory improvement. Some herb or medicine, dunno.

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    1. Re:What's most funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think herbs
      may be the source
      of the problem
      here.

    2. Re:What's most funny by jeffphil · · Score: 1

      Maybe it was the evil imposter CmdrTaco (editor) who posted this dup.

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  23. I dislike Google by z00r · · Score: 0
    I have come to find my non-technical friends increasingly complaining that they can't find anything on the web anymore. I don't blame this on the number of web pages, however, because I myself interviewed with Google.

    If their interviewing tactics speak at all about their technical skill, I'd have to say they are piss poor. The interview seemed to be more about extracting new ideas from me than anything else. They came off as not having a clue as to how to move forward with their business. Granted, they need creative employees. But apparently they don't have them now. As for their questions to assess my technical knowledge, they were obscure to say the least--hardly proof of anything.

    I believe Google is suffering from what most Silicon Valley companies apparently are: hubris and brain drain. No self-respecting intelligent person would live in a hyper-expensive cultural vacuum like Silicon Valley (or commute an hour from SF each way). Smart people left long before the dotcom bubble popped, because there are many better places by far.

  24. In other news, by madenosine · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    FreeBSD 4.3 has been released! This time, it really has been released!

  25. Google more open to "google bombing" now? by cetan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    An interesting article on K5

    http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/4/15/72154/5065

    talks about how now Google bombing is even more effective with this release.

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  26. repeated repeat by rabidphilosophy · · Score: 1, Funny

    Can I be the first to comment on the repeating comments commenting on how people keep repeating that this is a repeat?

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  27. karma whoring.... by jeffy124 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    HOWTO: Getting a story posted to the front page

    Find interesting article from last week/month/etc.

    Find alternate news sources of the same story to avoid using same news link. Submission bin checks links against those previously accepted to avoid duplicates. This step circumvents that filter.

    Do a new write up and submit.

    If accepted, congrats. Rejected? Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

    Optional: Laugh at whatever editor accepts your write up.

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  28. Google is Great by smagruder · · Score: 2

    It's amazing to see the advances in what appears (to the non-programmer) to be a set of simple technologies coming out of little ol' Google. They're putting all the other search engines to shame, esp. including Yahoo!. Even Yahoo! is stealing ideas from Google, such as the really cool Zeitgeist.

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    1. Re:Google is Great by Hydrogenoid · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Err... Since Yahoo! uses the google engine, it is not that surprising that some features are in common...

    2. Re:Google is Great by joyrider · · Score: 1

      Of course, Lycos has been doing this for ages, well before Google did their first Zeitgeist...

    3. Re:Google is Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But who uses Lycos? :-\ Their top 50 probably often includes references to Dick Clark and Little Richard.

    4. Re:Google is Great by checkitout · · Score: 1

      No surpirse, since yahoo uses google as their search engine, see here.

    5. Re:Google is Great by smagruder · · Score: 2

      It's understood that Yahoo! is using Google as a *secondary* search engine. Yahoo! continues to display items from their directory before showing the Google results. Thus, Yahoo! is not only stealing the zeitgeist, but also search results. :)

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    6. Re:Google is Great by dekraved · · Score: 1

      Well, I hate to be nitpicky, but I'm pretty sure Yahoo!'s Buzz came first, and that Metacrawler's Metaspy came even before that. This study provides a more long range view along the same lines. I'm trying to start a web page that lists these sorts of "what are people interesed in" sites around the Net. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd be very interested.

    7. Re:Google is Great by jCaT · · Score: 2

      interesting!! notice in the image searches, they limit it to "anime" image searches and holiday ones. Why? Because probably 80% of the people using the image search are using to try to find porn!

      It would be interesting to actually see those stats, though.

  29. Maybe you should read your site Taco by hardave · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Hey Taco, since you've been a bit busy this weekend why don't you actually READ your site first and catch up, BEFORE going through the submission bin.

  30. Dont forget.. by josh+crawley · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dont forget that Google released their API for their database...

    1. Re:Dont forget.. by rbeattie · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Someone moderated the parent post as Redundant.

      Nonono. this is Redundant... THAT post was funny.

      -Russ

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    2. Re:Dont forget.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      redundant? hell this whole story is redundant, this is the 3rd fucking time its been posted. thats a funny post, moderate taco as redundant!

    3. Re:Dont forget.. by DataSquid · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      The moderation made me laugh even more. Perhaps Redundant mods should be getting +1 instead of -1? Seems to be the vogue around here.

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    4. Re:Dont forget.. by p3d0 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Redundant? That's a good one. I'll metamod that as +1 Funny.

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    5. Re:Dont forget.. by josh+crawley · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I guess I'm waiting to have my account bitch-slapped back to 1, or 0. Lot's of people don't understand my type of humor/rhetoric/slang. Look back at the commodore article. I was one of the first posts, but used the word commie. If any of you remember, commie was slang for commodore. Still, even using _well_known_ slang at the time, idiots still mod me -1 troll, or such rubbish.

      The longing I have for the old internet.... It was soo nice.

  31. google releases an API for their database... by nochops · · Score: 0, Redundant

    ...And slashdot announces that goolge has released an api for thir database not once, but twice.

    Way to go, dorks.

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  32. Re:since this article is duplicate, I want to Ask by gazbo · · Score: 0, Redundant
    I think this is an excellent idea. Whenever /. remind us why we'll never pay them (by posting duplicates), we get to talk about anything. Here's my advice:

    Be blunt with her. When you say something that she takes as an insult and starts being whiny and self-conscious, just squarely say 'shut up' or 'stop being stupid' Initially she'll think that you're being a bastard and get upset, but eventually she'll take it as the ultimate 'I am not ridiculing you' and stop being upset. Then when you do insult her deliberately, she'll know that she's really done something wrong.

    Phew! That was exciting, and informative - I hope it will be modded as such. Any more questions for Dr. Gazbo's advice column should be posted as a reply to this comment for a speedy response. Kthx!

  33. In Other News... by iiii · · Score: 0, Redundant
    In Other News... Mean Time Between Duplicate Slashdot Posts Shrinking!!

    In a report released today (and last Friday, and the previous Tuesday) researchers claim that the mean time between duplicate posts on Slashdot (http://slashdot.org) has been shrinking.

    The scientists say that the average time has dropped from four days, six hours to two days, three hours in just the last two months. "At the rate they are going, the duplicate posts will start appearing before the orginals sometime in early July," said Dr. A. Nahasapeemapetalan, "The relativistic implications are quite disturbing."

    The report is based on data from satelite imagery, nanotech spy cameras attached to cockroaches, a Beowulf cluster of Carnivore servers, and murmurs from the guy in the next cubicle looking at faux-Portman pr0n.

    If you missed parts of this, don't worry!! This message will be posted again in 1 day, 8.23 hrs.

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  34. I wonder.. by nochops · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I wonder...If slashdot was using google's search engine API, would Taco have been able to find the previous story already posted about Google releasing their API?

    'Nuff said.

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  35. Since they bought out deja.... by ericski · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I guess it's only fitting to post it twice.

  36. Re:since this article is duplicate, I want to Ask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    I would say communication is the one single thing that makes or breaks relationships, and the two of you need to just sit down and discuss this. Get it out in the open. You need to figure out where her buttons are so you can find a way to get across what you want to say without pushing them, and she needs to figure out how to tell what you are saying and understand when you are raising an issue and when are you just talking. Of course, she probably is just relaly insecure, and not willfully misconstruing things, so there may be more you can do to assuage her ego-- doing little things from time to time to make her feel you care for her and find her an interesting, intelligent person could go a long way toward changing some of her internal assumptions (at the least, when she starts critisizing you, she may subconsiously wind up assuming that what you say about how she's not stupid and you aren't mocking her is true, instead of subconsiously assuming everything is critisism). (Of course, insecurity is usually very, very deep set and it may be impossible to remove that particular facet of the problem even after years..)

    If you cannot find a way to do this, maybe you two would be better off seperate. If you can't find a way to communicate over *basic* things, once an actual PROBLEM in the relationship comes up, well, you're sure as hell not going to be able to communicate about complicated things like that, and the eventual meltdown will be far, far messier and more painful than another 3 months of bickering and sex could easily justify.

    Of course, these are just suggestions based on my personal experience. Not everything works in every case..

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  37. What web services were meant to be? by SirSlud · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Am I one of the only people that contend that THIS is what the whole 'web services' thing is all about?

    I think this is ultra cool. Imagine, if you made an application that had skins or used plugins, or whatever. You could have an in-app browser, powered by google, to search for new add-ons to applications, etc.

    Actually, the possibilities are quite cool.

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    1. Re:What web services were meant to be? by bricriu · · Score: 2

      Or an in-browser app that automatically Google-linked everything in a page? Like M$'s proposed auto-linking, but populist. True hypertext.

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    2. Re:What web services were meant to be? by hs81 · · Score: 1

      Exactly. This is the sort of service that makes explicit the value of web services and will push foreward .net and the soap protocol.
      I am still thinking through the implications of this action but it is clear that this is an innovative action that hopefully will be followed up by other institutions. For example, what about FedEx releasing an API to query the progress of the delivery of your parcels.

    3. Re:What web services were meant to be? by SirSlud · · Score: 3, Interesting

      yeah, and the beauty is, it 'breaks' the control that corperations are attempting to leverage on their consumer base through their partnerships.

      For instance, if FedEX has an API I can hook into, I am not forced to use some partner of theirs [AB Inc, for the purposes of this example] because AB Inc has special permission or some manual corperate-driven method for providing their services integrated with FedEx. Now I can hook right into FedEx myself and not be forced to follow the 'carrot' of seamless integration based on their partnership strategies that force me into 'buyins' I dont really want to participate in.

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    4. Re:What web services were meant to be? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    5. Re:What web services were meant to be? by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 2

      Am I one of the only people that contend that THIS is what the whole 'web services' thing is all about?

      Nope, Google is just one of the few companies that actually has the guts to try it.

  38. Re:since this article is duplicate, I want to Ask by GafTheHorseInTears · · Score: 0, Funny

    When she gets upset with you, you need to get really romantic. Give her a hug and tell her you love her. Take her out for a nice dinner. Bring her back home, light up the fireplace, open a bottle of wine. Show her that you really love her.

    Then bend her over and fuck her in the ass. Don't use lube, either. That'll teach her.

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  39. That sounds really familiar... by bziman · · Score: 0, Redundant

    A quick review of the past week indicates that CmdrTaco should read Slashdot more, or at least talk to Hemos once in a while.

    1. Re:That sounds really familiar... by dthable · · Score: 2

      But they need to keep the volume up to justify the subscription model. When it doubt, start looking for crap in the trash can.

    2. Re:That sounds really familiar... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      haha, no, i just think this means the fucking editors dont even read this site anymore. they're too busy sitting around watching anime and going out to movies with katz. c'mon. i'll pay them money when they give me stupid fucking basic features like something to STOP DUPLICATE STORIES. really. you perl wizard mastermind linux wankers should be able to code SOMETHING up to stop this. at this point, it is my official opinion that slashdot reposts them on purpose. i also now believe that the people who run the site don't even read it. i think these slashdot folks need a little fear of survival to get them back interested in things... i'll give them money maybe after they do a round of layoffs including old timothy and katz.

  40. Morons :-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And now, tell me that the Slashdot moderators aren't total morons: First time

    Second time

    OK, maybe not morons, but very, very stupid or deficient.

  41. /. answer by The+1st+Truth · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Why doesent /. just put a small icon up under the story for when a site gets hammered. it couldent be that hard to write the code to test the site, and would mean that i dont have to sit here and hope it loads. i saw this mentioned before but with/. mirroring the site, which would lead to copyright issues, so maybe this makes more sense? Comments?

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  42. credit card trolling is even faster now. by JDizzy · · Score: 2

    I wonder how hard it would be to trawl the cache for the good stuff?

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  43. Well.... by qurob · · Score: 2

    Any real hacker already has perl/cgi/whatever code to do this for him :)

    1. Re:Well.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any real hacker already has perl/cgi/whatever code to do this for him :)

      I can see that you're a big fan of performance & scalability. Not everything in the world should be a kludge you know..

  44. guys, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's not about the fact that Google released their API.
    We know this already.
    It's the fact that Yahoo!'s reporting on it! Now that's news!

  45. A great move by Google by cscx · · Score: 1

    Other than being a really cool idea, this is a great tactical move from Google. On the one hand, by restricting the number of queries made to Google, they ensure that their APIs aren't misused/compromised, it also gives companies an initiative to purchase Google products and deploy this API (probably an unrestricted-query API) on their own network. Furthermore, an API such as this will easily muscle out any sniff of a competition from other search engine wannabes. Google has managed to do all this and yet be as compliant to an Open Source initiative as possible. Remarkable.

    1. Re:A great move by Google by Zico · · Score: 2

      How do you figure Google has some strong Open Source relationship? Have they given out their source code so that people could create their own Googles? Serious question, maybe they have and I just didn't know about it.


      And how would an API such as this "easily muscle out any sniff of a competition from other search engine wannabes"? I don't think too many other guys are going to be rushing out to implement this, seeing as every time someone uses the API, they're not seeing the ads. People stop seeing the ads, advertisers stop giving Google money. Google stops getting money, Google go bye bye. Google's already unsure how they can make money from this as it is, I wouldn't expect everyone else to make the blind jump along with them.

  46. It's a beautiful spring day. I am: by ackthpt · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Your name is CmdrTaco...

    It's a beautiful spring day. You are...

    Not reading Slashdot to see what articles have already been posted.

    Well, considering the engagement, he's probably got other things to do... ;)

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  47. Heh, Google faster than Microsoft. Perfect timing. by Baki · · Score: 5, Informative
    Microsoft, claiming everyone should use .NET to be able to use web services (WSDL) just announced their first web service (mappoint) but google beats them. Plus, google shows you don't need .NET but can just as well use Java to make use of XML web services. MSFT must be quite pissed because of this, google stealing the web services show for now.

    Apart from that I think it is a pity that noone comes up with a Corba-over-HTTP standard. As an API, Corba IDL is nicer and more compact than WSDL, and all tool support is already there. WSDL offers no advantages over Corba. The only difference is the use of XML instead of (easy) IDL, and using HTTP as transport mechanism. Corba is transport mechanism independant; current implementations mostly use IIOP, but one could just as well implement Corba using HTTP as transport. Hell, you could even use some XML-over-HTTP as transport, to satisfy all XML freaks that think any machine-to-machine data nowadays should be human readable.

    The only justification for XML web services is that MSFT hates Corba (because of their Not Invented Here syndrome they invented COM+ to compete, also helping vendor lock in) thus they had to come up with something else; switching to Corba would mean they loose their face.

  48. Didn't by xcomputer_man · · Score: 2

    Already see this on Friday? It was released thursday, so it possibly couldn't be a different story...

    Google releases Web APIs

  49. Multi Post? by ViceClown · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Isn't this like the 3rd time this was posted? Not trying to poo poo... just wondering.

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  50. Sounds familiar by Jaeger · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm glad the army of highly-trained rodents that processes Slashdot submissions was able to catch these reduntant stories. We've seen this a few times before:

    The first story even included a link to the API page on Google's site.

  51. Great! use it to eliminate duplicate stories... by panck · · Score: 0, Redundant

    The Slash programmers should build it in to their 'Post a Story' interface, so when they hit "preview" it will search google to find out if the Subject of the Story has ever been posted to slashdot before.

    Yeah my post is ironic given that this story was posted twice, but that just makes it more topical. This is a serious comment and good idea!

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  52. Just maybe by bodin · · Score: 0, Redundant
    this can be used to avoid slashdot double-postings by CmdrTaco, Timothy and others.


    or ... maybe not

  53. I shoulda waited ... by jc42 · · Score: 2

    Damn! I wrote my own about two months ago.

    Maybe I'll grab theirs and see if it gives me any ideas.

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  54. Look here for the xml-rpc interface by codepunk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Google xml-rpc interface

    I personally refuse to support and or recommend anyone using SOAP web services due to the patent fiasco. I asked on the xml-rpc list if anyone knew of a xml-rpc gateway and Dave Winer immediately jumped to the challange and put up a public gateway.

    Thanx Dave

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    1. Re:Look here for the xml-rpc interface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      XML RPC is a much cleaner API, and it's a shame developers don't prefer elegance and simplicity to large-industry commitees. RPC forever! Down with SOAP!

    2. Re:Look here for the xml-rpc interface by sheldon · · Score: 2

      What patent fiasco?

      Or is this more FUD like that ZDNet article?

  55. Last Thursday? by Da+Penguin · · Score: 0, Redundant
    What a coincidence, a slashdot article about this exact same thing was posted at that time by Hemos!

    The only possible answer to this is that CmdrTaco has been replaced by an alien being intent on distorting our view of space-time! Hence the many recent articles on time travel, Stephen Hawking, black holes, etcetera ad nauseam. They tried to make us believe that nothing is wrong but we know better! Spread the word my fellow bipeds! We will not be conquered!

  56. Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder.. (Score:0, Redundant)
    google releases an API for their database... (Score:0, Redundant)

    How exactly do you make a renundant comment to a story that's redundant

    Slashdot (Score:0, Redundant)

  57. Re:Heh, Google faster than Microsoft. Perfect timi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Why would Microsoft be pissed? It's a great opportunity for them to show off how .NET works between different platforms. And why would Microsoft be annoyed that it works with Java? WebServices are a standard. Microsoft themselves have had booths at developers conferences where they would show WebService interopability between .NET and IIS on Windows and SOAP/Apache on Linux.

    As for CORBA, WebServices fit a bill that both CORBA and COM don't really fit, stateless and async internet-based programmatic communication.

  58. uhhh question by /dev/trash · · Score: 1
    Google just keeps pushing the limits."

    How is releasing an API pushing the limits?

    1. Re:uhhh question by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      the limits to how much longer we can take this story loop. Im quite pushed at the moment :)

  59. How to solve this by aozilla · · Score: 2

    The database obviously has a list of "related links". Both the original "article" and this dup have the same link, to http://www.google.com/apis/. Why not just list all the other "articles" which contain that same "related link" in the last 2 weeks or so when the "editor" (and I use that term very loosely) submits the "article" (which I also use very loosely).

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  60. Re:Yes, we know it's a duplicate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i'm sure the slashdot api would be very hard to implement because of all the recursion.

  61. Re:Heh, Google faster than Microsoft. Perfect timi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nobody ever claimed you needed .NET to make web services. Visual Studio.NET just makes the process incredibly easy.

    Try implementing a service on .NET and then in Java and you'll see what I mean.

  62. What about slashdot? by aozilla · · Score: 2

    How long until slashdot offers this service? (No, I don't mean just the headlines, I mean the whole site).

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  63. doh by smaster87 · · Score: 0, Troll

    doh

  64. Re:since this article is duplicate, I want to Ask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First, I am not a psychologist. I can only speak from experience.

    I agree with this post. Your girlfriend's primary problem seems to be her insecurity. I would venture the guess that she finds you attractive because you find her interesting. This girl may have been ignored, made to feel she was stupid of insignificant, etc. I would guess she is in fact a special person, but cannot recognize her own worth.

    Her problem will subside with time if you exercise unconditional love and a lot of patience. I wouldn't recommend you do anything extravagant, such as buying her a ferrari, but rather do *a lot* of small things. Constantly. Cook her breakfast, leave her a note to wake up to, and point out her strengths whenever appropriate. Does she look especially pretty today? Did she perform some task well? Did she just say something that made you appreciate having her? If she knows that she is valuable to you (based, of course, on the presumption that she is) she will be more forgiving.

    If she snaps at you, and claims that your remark was insincere, take some advice from h2g2: don't panic. Remain calm, remember that this is just part of her personality. Don't take her on, and try to prove that she was wrong to accuse you, but turn the other cheek. Turn it a million times if you have to.

    A critical part of this whole thing working is that you are secure with yourself. If you aren't sure who you are, or what kind of man you want to be, you'll need to work on that concurrently.

    I would advise that every day, when you wake up, recall all the things you love about your girlfriend. Do this several times a day if possible.

    One last note: I would like to say that I don't condone using these techniques to exploit a weakness in another. I don't believe this is your situation, but to anyone else reading this, exploiting the weakness of anyone else for your own personal gain is a vile and disgusting practice. As intelligent people, we have the ability to make our spheres of the world a bit more beautiful, or we can strip our spheres of their resources for temporary satisfaction. We make these choices every day. And although the former is more challenging, it is also more rewarding, it builds character, and it's contagious. Take it from someone who's seen it work, first hand.

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  65. Re:Heh, Google faster than Microsoft. Perfect timi by inbox · · Score: 1

    Microsoft has a Not Invented Here syndrome? Are you crazy? They buy 90% of their technology (FrontPage, Windows Media, Visio, etc...). They don't have a Not Invented Here syndrome, they have a "We want to do it our own way" syndrome but that doesn't preclude them from purchasing technology.

  66. And you expect it to remain free? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Like everyone else, they will get you hooked, a bunch of programs using it, then change it to some sort of pay service.

    Not that im against pay service or them making money... just not by suckering people into it instead of being up-front..

    I even bought staroffice.. but not after that same sort of crap was just pulled by sun..Is it too much to ask for them to be honest about intentions? Most of us would pay a resonable price.. for quality..

    /rant OFF

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  67. Re:since this article is duplicate, I want to Ask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dump her. Do it quickly and cleanly. Sounds like communicating with her is impossible. Save yourself a lot of headache, heartache, and walletache.

  68. Re:Heh, Google faster than Microsoft. Perfect timi by mnot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's not what Web Services are about.

    Although current applications (and some implementations) focus on RPC-over-HTTP-using-XML (and "section 5" encoding), most of the big WS vendors believe the real meat of WS is in literal-encoded documents in long-lived message exchanges.

    This buys you a lot; instead of needing to have objects at both ends, you send messages that are described by a schema; the implementations are relatively independent. WS are more flexible, more loosely coupled, and more dynamic.

    In this manner, WS is closer to message queuing solutions (e.g., MQSeries, MSMQ, Tibco, etc.) than it is to Corba.

    The intermediary model in SOAP hasn't been exploited much yet, but should prove interesting.

    Another interesting feature of SOAP is the extensibility that Modules bring you; this should allow a number of common behaviours (like reliable delivery) to be standardized.

    Finally, SOAP isn't just over HTTP; again, many vendors believe that HTTP is too limiting and tempermental to be useful for the more interesting applications.

  69. Re:since this article is duplicate, I want to Ask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You need to figure out where her buttons are

    Heh heh heh.... :-p

  70. Darn by Kallahar · · Score: 2

    I was about to submit this story:

    Slashdot is reporting that Google is opening their API. Slashdot's Hemos was unable to be reached for a reply, but Slashdot's CmdrTaco decided to post the story anyway.

    :)

  71. Good Thing? I agree by shaldannon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I just believe they're doing it for a reason that makes business sense to them rather than out of the "this is a really great technical idea" motivation. (Hence the cynical tone) I agree that it would be good if there were some sort of standard API available (like RSS does) that allowed you to do this sort of thing for all sites. Then again...(cynicism=on) Microsoft would just find another way to corrupt the standard.

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  72. exactly by Gerad · · Score: 1

    I think this was a large part of their reasoning for releasing this API. If people are going to do this ANYWAY (and it would be highly impractical to try and force people not to), why not create a way that will save both groups time, bandwidth, and CPU cycles? Rather than taking their ball and going home (or telling their lawyer to go beat up the mean person on the playground who doesn't want to play their way), like many large corperations seem to do, Google is working with people who use their service in creative ways to save themselves time and money.

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  73. It's a sad day... by Snaller · · Score: 1

    When even Commander Taco has stopped reading Slashdot ;)

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  74. Timely information... by mbbac · · Score: 1

    This was announced early in the morning on Friday. It's just now posted on Slashdot at 1:00 PM EST?

    Whatever happened to 'release often, release early?'

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  75. why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    why do we need to hear from google everytime they post something on there web page - honestly - tell me when they do something we should care about

  76. Heh, you're completely wrong. by Zico · · Score: 2

    Microsoft has offered TerraServer access as a web service for over a year now. You can still see the current incarnation at TerraService.net. As I said, it's been around for over a year now, because I still see cached articles about it from last April. Nice try, though. ;)

  77. Re:Heh, Google faster than Microsoft. Perfect timi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google's a year late. MS's Terraserver web service has been out for a long time now. If not a year, then very close.

  78. Google Topic by Schnapple · · Score: 1

    If only Slashdot had a Google topic, they could have noticed this whole thing sooner.

  79. Re:Good Thing? I agree by Frac · · Score: 1

    I just believe they're doing it for a reason that makes business sense to them rather than out of the "this is a really great technical idea" motivation.

    Wait, let me get it straight - is it really your original and insightful contention that a for-profit company is making decisions because it makes business sense to them? oh the sheer defiance of their behavior from the norm just fucking shatters me! Can you be any more controversial?

  80. Yeah actually I could by shaldannon · · Score: 2

    But I was taking the controversial (around here) approach that a business was trying to make money versus the (conventional, around here) approach that they were doing new things for technology's sake. I suppose I could get really wild and suggest that they were doing this to get people hooked and then would set the hook by making it a subscription service, but that's pure speculation.

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  81. Re:before you ask... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SO YOUR A JEW?

  82. How do they make money off of this? by permanentE · · Score: 1

    Will there be ad links in the database results?

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  83. Re:Heh, Google faster than Microsoft. Perfect timi by sheldon · · Score: 2

    Why would Microsoft be pissed?

    It's simple... Take VS.Net and build a client application to utilize the google.com web service.

    Now do the same with Java.

    It only takes 10 minutes or so to build the entire client UI in VS.Net. How long will it take the Java developer? *That* is what Microsoft is selling...

  84. Ask Slashdot by lostchicken · · Score: 1

    Whee!
    Now we really CAN modify slashcode to "Ask Slashdot to Ask Google" without user intervention ;-)
    It would be kinda cool...

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  85. Re:Heh, Google faster than Microsoft. Perfect timi by hgh · · Score: 3, Informative

    google shows you don't need .NET but can just as well use Java to make use of XML web services

    Of course anybody who has any background knowledge of web services knows that pretty much any language with text manipulation can be used to create web services. The point of .NET is not that it is the only way of creating web services but rather it makes creating them a lot easier; WSDL, DISCO, SOAP, etc. are abstracted away to make the developing web services easier. Yon don't need to know the bare protocol to start coding (of course it always helps).

    WSDL offers no advantages over Corba. The only difference is the use of XML...

    The use of XML is an advantage. XML is easy to use, and is an open standard. Although binary specs are slightly more efficient in transfer time and space requirements, this is becoming more and more negligible. More important is a developer's time. It is a lot easier to use and debug and text-based spec like XML than a binary spec.

    The only justification for XML web services is that MSFT hates Corba

    Maybe before you spout worthless anti-msft drivel you should research the origins of Web Services. Check out this article by Tim Berners-Lee for a quick intro.

    hgh
  86. Not really free by flossie · · Score: 2
    This is incredibly cool, however:
    And you may not use the search results provided by the Google Web APIs service with an existing product or service that competes with products or services offered by Google.
    It is certainly reasonable for google to prevent other large search engines from crippling them by using the Google API to obtain all the best links, but this is rather vague.What exactly constitutes competition? Other search engines? Other commercial sites competing for viewers? Other sites that display adverts?

    While I'm sure that Google's interpretation will be very reasonable, I don't really like the license text.

  87. Re:Heh, Google faster than Microsoft. Perfect timi by CaptainSuperBoy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How long will it take the Java developer?

    About five minutes, using the Java classes that Google included with their API. RTFM, man.

  88. Well, at least the soap protocol... by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    The nice thing is that it's more a push of pure Soap than .Net. You could use Java, Perl, Ruby, or really anything against the Soap interface (as long as you have a soap library to wrap up the calls, or are willing to create a wrapper).

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  89. GoogleThrashing by webmaven · · Score: 2

    As this is an example of a feedback loop, rather than the sort of coordinated manipulation that a GoogleBomb is, I felt it deserved it's own term, so I decided to call it GoogleThrashing since this could at least potentially cause the Google Pagerank algorithm to thrash, depending on the extent and type of feedback involved.

    Besides, it sounds cool :-)

    I posted a short description of GoogleThrashing to my weblog and also posted it to the Google API discussion group.

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  90. Google Releases an API for Their Database by WhaDaYaKnow · · Score: 1

    Posted by CmdrTaco on Monday April 15, @11:02AM
    from the now-thats-a-duplicate dept.

    Ben Wills writes "Slashdot announced that Google Released an API last Thursday. "The service, launched Thursday, is called Google Web APIs, for application programming interfaces. The tools let noncommercial software developers "query more than 2 billion Web documents directly from their own computer programs," according to Google's Web site. For now, the service is free." Google just keeps pushing the limits."

  91. Re:Heh, Google faster than Microsoft. Perfect timi by Baki · · Score: 2
    XML is easy to use, and is an open standard
    Huh, why is XML more open then specifying how Corba data is to be marshalled? It is all neatly described, just read the IIOP spec (available on www.omg.com). Why easier to use? Because XML is human readable? I don't see the fundamental difference. No developer (except those that implement an ORB) need to debug the transport mechanism. And, should you wish to do so and still think that XML somehow is "easier", then feel free to implement Corba on top of XML, i.e. use XML to transfer Corba requests/data. In fact, I'm pretty sure that Corba implementors shall quickly offer "Corba over SOAP" (just like they were quick to implement a Corba-COM bridge).
  92. Notice how the API is NOT CORBA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No surprise there!
    Google wants to remain running for more than a minute.
    You'd have to upgrade all the client programs each time you had an interface change with CORBA - what a disaster! Better stick with SOAP/HTTP.

  93. Extracting new ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't flatter yourself! You've probably got as many ideas in your head as I have under my shoe.
    That's why Google probably did not hire you.

    1. Re:Extracting new ideas by z00r · · Score: 0

      Oh, nice insult, coward. Speaking of creativity I can see you have almost none.

  94. April Fools! No Really! by booms · · Score: 1

    Apparently CmdrTaco didn't get the memo about April Fools being over, and decided to post a THIRD article about the Google API. You funny guy, you.

    *waits for a Google pop-under to appear*

    I love Google, but 3 articles about it in the last couple of weeks which are all about the same thing!?!?!

    Then again, staring at Slash code everyday can't be good for you...

    Goodbye, Sweet Karma.

  95. Re:Heh, Google faster than Microsoft. Perfect timi by sheldon · · Score: 1

    Heh, because Google wrote all of the code for you. That's quite a bit more than just an API, wouldn't you say?

  96. Re:Heh, Google faster than Microsoft. Perfect timi by Electrum · · Score: 2

    He's talking about building the UI, which is incredibly easy in VB, using the GUI builder. The API is easy to use with either language.

  97. Re:Heh, Google faster than Microsoft. Perfect timi by CaptainSuperBoy · · Score: 2

    Not really.. All Google's API does is generate the right XML for you, which you could do yourself with a third party XML library or an hour's hacking. They are using completely off-the-shelf components - SAX to do the XML, and Apache's SOAP library for Java.

  98. Re:Heh, Google faster than Microsoft. Perfect timi by CaptainSuperBoy · · Score: 2

    Yeah but if you use J#.Net.... :)

  99. Be careful of bait and switch by 3seas · · Score: 2

    Web Service are intended to be used to charge people for using.

    I'm sure your local drug dealing will give out some free samples to hook the kids.....

    Think about it....There have been some recent article regarding MS and IBM "patenting"
    the internet via web services....

  100. Re:Heh, Google faster than Microsoft. Perfect timi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Took me about 10 minutes to get it working, including downloading, unzipping, registering with google and getting a key. Pretty fun stuff, I love example code that works the first time. Hear that Oracle?

  101. PHP Interface to GoogleAPI by g_dancer · · Score: 1

    You can find a PHP interface to the Google API here. It builds upon the PEAR SOAP implementation for PHP, which is currently under development and can be obtained by CVS.

  102. Re:before you ask... by @madeus · · Score: 1

    I say we dust off and nuke the Middle East from orbit.

    It's the only way to be sure.

  103. SOAP != computationally cheap by Codex+The+Sloth · · Score: 1

    Serving HTML (particularily the ad free Google content) is much less costly in terms of front end servers than processing SOAP requests which require parsing XML (usually to DOM), doing the search query and then building an XML document. Parsing some URI parameters and spitting out HTML (even whizzy HTML) is always going to be cheaper. Also, SOAP is pretty verbose so the HTML may even be smaller.

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  104. Re:before you ask... by Inthewire · · Score: 1

    Some goddamn idiot posted this on my website and wouldn't believe that perhaps it was not true.

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