sort of like how apple restricts osx to apple hardware when in fact it can run on any hardware.
artificial restrictions.
dvd regions.
dvd prohibited user operations (10 minute commercials when starting a dvd that cannot be skipped).
consoles that won't allow you to utilize the processors and hardware you paid for.
artificial restrictions.
and the list is seemingly endless and in the future will be greatly expanded through the use of ubiquitous DRM courtesy of Insidious Computing.
my solution is very simple.
if you in any way DRM-cripple or restrict in any way what can be done with a copyrighted item, you forfeit your copyright on that item.
copyright law PROTECTS your rights, not DRM and the like.
copyright law also allows purchasers to use the product in any way they wish short of distribution. if you restrict that through technical means, you lose it.
now, how do i go about being a judge/legislator... and who do i contact for bodyguard services?
the above assumes certain things... that the system would stay the way it is for the most part... i haven't addressed that in this post but have in my myriad other posts.
simple and elegant solution without requiring massive restructuring.
then we tackle the infinite length copyright durations but that's another story...
and people with more than a single working brain cell won't buy into the STEAM-like DRM / Insidious Computing systems.
there's much more to life than allowing greedy assholes to propser at customers' expense.
they don't want customers to have any control whatsoever over their purchases.
which is fine by me. i won't be making any more purchases from sobs like mark rein and company. and if all of them go STEAM, they can kiss my dull fleshy ass.
they will use technical means to prevent your lawful rights.
do you have 50k and several years of time to go before the courts and argue for your rights?
that's the dirty secret of 'DIGITAL DISTRIBUTION".
it is complete and utter control of what you buy, including but not limited to the right to sell your property (STEAM), monitoring and logging everything you do (STEAM) and being able to cut you off from your purchase on a whim (STEAM again).
for the slight convenience of not having to go to the store or having to buy it from mail order, you are giving away the control of your computer and software to the publisher/developer.
i'll first stop playing games before ever letting myself be ruled by them.
every year the copy prevention and DRM technologies are getting worse and soon PCs will be just as crippled as consoles.
the lawful paying customers are treated like crap while infringers get to enjoy the games without hassles like inserting the disc in the drive when playing, having to install destructive and intrustive copy prevention drivers like starforce and safedisc or having to buy completely crippled products like consoles which we are denied full access to their own property.
seems like RMS is more right every day that passes.
it's becoming so there is no middle ground.
either it's completely in the favor of "content producers" or you don't get to use it your way.
fuck them all.
you don't want customers to pay for your shit? fine, we won't.
no it's not better at optimizing for intel chips, it purposely cripples compiled output for non-intel chips.
that might be in AMD's suit... i haven't read all the details.
like microsoft purposely crippling competitors software, it is a widely known phenomena, except a lot of slashdot shills make it seem like intel is not at fault.
except that windows/ os/2 ran on any hardware and the mac only ran on apple hardware.
that's a significant difference.
it's a pity apple wants to lock up their OS.
it may be profitable but it also means that it isn't a viable alternative to windows. it would have to run on the same hardware and as apple has shown, it'll never do that.
(yes windows will run on apple hardware (ppc and x86) but osx will not run on non-apple x86 , legally or technically thanks to Insidious Computing and the DMCA)
that so many slashdotters can see the illegal practices of mobile phone companies locking the users' property but cannot see MS/SONY/NINTENDO illegally locking the customers' property?
as one can see in this discussion, "business model" is no excuse for stealing (yes it is the right word) the right to fully access one's own property.
so why is it that i see countless people attacking mobile phone vendors and see countless people defending the rights of console manufacturers in taking away customers' property rights?
and no, there are other ways of preventing copied games being played. so that's no excuse.
the real reason is the same as mobile phone companies... to fleece the customers and milk them for money. never mind the fact that they have to illegally prevent customers from owning their property in order to do it...
and soon, thanks to Insidious Computing... your and my beloved PCs (personal computer, not x86 computer) will no longer belong to use either.
i just love the smell of illegal business models in the morning.
all consoles are exactly the same from this point of view.
they are just chips and wires.
aka computers.
the ps2 and GC process data in the same way that the xbox does.
same "business model" as the mobile phone companies.
yet i haven't seen more than 5 people on/. (geek paradise) suggest that people who buy a "console" actually own it.
shame on you geeks.
arguing against property rights... you ought to know better.
i lost a lot of respect for geeks... they care more about shiny things than "things that matter".
seeing as how CONgress is making it illegal for mobile phone manufacturers to lock their phones... they should be doing the same for consoles. locking YOUR property AFTER you buy it... doesn't that go against all the rules of commerce?
it isn't a rental so you in fact do have EVERY right to fully access your property.
but the ps3 can process 2 TRILLION!! instructions per second...
oooh shiny nano.
i don't care if it's a dog turd. if you buy it, you own it and it should be illegal for manufacturers to lock YOUR property.
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the interface is mostly irrelevant.
how about the fact that it only runs on a very specific computer (apple brand)?
as long as it's tied to hardware it'll never be a contender for competition between OS's.
yes that is a very good question...
wouldn't it be more prudent to run CLOSEDBSD?
sort of like how apple restricts osx to apple hardware when in fact it can run on any hardware.
artificial restrictions.
dvd regions.
dvd prohibited user operations (10 minute commercials when starting a dvd that cannot be skipped).
consoles that won't allow you to utilize the processors and hardware you paid for.
artificial restrictions.
and the list is seemingly endless and in the future will be greatly expanded through the use of ubiquitous DRM courtesy of Insidious Computing.
my solution is very simple.
if you in any way DRM-cripple or restrict in any way what can be done with a copyrighted item, you forfeit your copyright on that item.
copyright law PROTECTS your rights, not DRM and the like.
copyright law also allows purchasers to use the product in any way they wish short of distribution. if you restrict that through technical means, you lose it.
now, how do i go about being a judge/legislator... and who do i contact for bodyguard services?
the above assumes certain things... that the system would stay the way it is for the most part... i haven't addressed that in this post but have in my myriad other posts.
simple and elegant solution without requiring massive restructuring.
then we tackle the infinite length copyright durations but that's another story...
:-)
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the perfect excuse.
fuck the developers.
they have no right to tell you what you can or can't do with your purchase.
mark rein is a greedy asshole. and all greedy assholes can go to hell.
that's the economy. if you can't cut it, then go file for bankruptcy.
and people with more than a single working brain cell won't buy into the STEAM-like DRM / Insidious Computing systems.
there's much more to life than allowing greedy assholes to propser at customers' expense.
they don't want customers to have any control whatsoever over their purchases.
which is fine by me. i won't be making any more purchases from sobs like mark rein and company. and if all of them go STEAM, they can kiss my dull fleshy ass.
the difference is very simple.
they will use technical means to prevent your lawful rights.
do you have 50k and several years of time to go before the courts and argue for your rights?
that's the dirty secret of 'DIGITAL DISTRIBUTION".
it is complete and utter control of what you buy, including but not limited to the right to sell your property (STEAM), monitoring and logging everything you do (STEAM) and being able to cut you off from your purchase on a whim (STEAM again).
for the slight convenience of not having to go to the store or having to buy it from mail order, you are giving away the control of your computer and software to the publisher/developer.
i'll first stop playing games before ever letting myself be ruled by them.
here's something you may not know.
gamestop/EB/generic gamestores sell used games as new.
they use shrinkwrap machines to package up used/returned games as new.
it's better not to shop those stores and buy it online, like amazon (even though amazon is evil they're big enough not to screw with their customers).
or we could stop playing games altogether.
every year the copy prevention and DRM technologies are getting worse and soon PCs will be just as crippled as consoles.
the lawful paying customers are treated like crap while infringers get to enjoy the games without hassles like inserting the disc in the drive when playing, having to install destructive and intrustive copy prevention drivers like starforce and safedisc or having to buy completely crippled products like consoles which we are denied full access to their own property.
seems like RMS is more right every day that passes.
it's becoming so there is no middle ground.
either it's completely in the favor of "content producers" or you don't get to use it your way.
fuck them all.
you don't want customers to pay for your shit? fine, we won't.
how about microsoft fucks off and dies.
NO ONE HAS A RIGHT TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO WITH YOUR PROPERTY.
anyone who does is an obvious god damn shill and greedy motherfucker.
the above post has been cleared by the Family Values Association and is recommended for readers 15 years and under.
respecting copyright laws is like respecting satan. it'll work for a while but eventually you get wise to what's going on.
what does "fair use" have to do with commerce and the right to sell your property?
yeah, you own the discs and other media.
i didn't know mark rein was such a corporate whore.
only a complete prick would complain about people selling their own property.
you want a cut of other people's sales?
why don't you "F*** O**", miserable piece of garbage.
"intellectual property" indeed.
no it's not better at optimizing for intel chips, it purposely cripples compiled output for non-intel chips.
that might be in AMD's suit... i haven't read all the details.
like microsoft purposely crippling competitors software, it is a widely known phenomena, except a lot of slashdot shills make it seem like intel is not at fault.
didn't apple make a "deal" with "intel" a while back?
hmm...
even adults don't understand the concepts.
never mind that "intellectual property" is propoganda speak and doesn't exist anywhere in law.
patents, copyright and trademarks != "intellectual property"
actually the vice president of sony (one of them) and his wife were keeping an illegal immigrant as a slave.
/. article.
i think it was even a
isn't that the same Lyndon Johnson that covered up the USS Liberty attack?
+ liberty
yeah, i'll never doubt the ethics of government again.
http://www.google.com/search?q=lyndon+johnson+uss
security = DRM/Insidious Computing.
i've translated it so many times that my mind does it automatically now.
security means secure against freedom.
what?! you thought you would be allowed to do whatever it is you wished without the consent of monied and powerful interests?
blasphemy!
and in exactly what way is the 360 unimpressive from a technical point of view?
the only drawback that i can see is using regular dvds instead of next gen discs.
in every other way, it equals the ps3 or surpasses it.
no, they won't require it.
they'll be smart about it.
"connect your movie player up to the net to get up to the minute celebrity news, movie release dates, promotional content, etc etc".
they will give the non-educated users plenty of incentive to connect it.
it's a business after all, so you can expect deception.
except that windows/ os/2 ran on any hardware and the mac only ran on apple hardware.
that's a significant difference.
it's a pity apple wants to lock up their OS.
it may be profitable but it also means that it isn't a viable alternative to windows. it would have to run on the same hardware and as apple has shown, it'll never do that.
(yes windows will run on apple hardware (ppc and x86) but osx will not run on non-apple x86 , legally or technically thanks to Insidious Computing and the DMCA)
that so many slashdotters can see the illegal practices of mobile phone companies locking the users' property but cannot see MS/SONY/NINTENDO illegally locking the customers' property?
as one can see in this discussion, "business model" is no excuse for stealing (yes it is the right word) the right to fully access one's own property.
so why is it that i see countless people attacking mobile phone vendors and see countless people defending the rights of console manufacturers in taking away customers' property rights?
and no, there are other ways of preventing copied games being played. so that's no excuse.
the real reason is the same as mobile phone companies... to fleece the customers and milk them for money. never mind the fact that they have to illegally prevent customers from owning their property in order to do it...
and soon, thanks to Insidious Computing... your and my beloved PCs (personal computer, not x86 computer) will no longer belong to use either.
i just love the smell of illegal business models in the morning.
it has nothing to do with the xbox being a "pc".
/. (geek paradise) suggest that people who buy a "console" actually own it.
all consoles are exactly the same from this point of view.
they are just chips and wires.
aka computers.
the ps2 and GC process data in the same way that the xbox does.
same "business model" as the mobile phone companies.
yet i haven't seen more than 5 people on
shame on you geeks.
arguing against property rights... you ought to know better.
i lost a lot of respect for geeks... they care more about shiny things than "things that matter".
seeing as how CONgress is making it illegal for mobile phone manufacturers to lock their phones... they should be doing the same for consoles. locking YOUR property AFTER you buy it... doesn't that go against all the rules of commerce?
it isn't a rental so you in fact do have EVERY right to fully access your property.
but the ps3 can process 2 TRILLION!! instructions per second...
oooh shiny nano.
i don't care if it's a dog turd. if you buy it, you own it and it should be illegal for manufacturers to lock YOUR property.
too bad they won't make it (as if it isn't already) illegal to lock consoles.
same issue but people argue in favor of manufacturers instead of property owners.