try this link for a more informative look at vista.
take it for whatever it's worth, cause i'm not vouching for the authenticity. but it should be slightly more informative than "IE7, tabbed browsing and more eye candy".
you sort of sidestep the fact that osx was dog slow when it came out. that it has gotten faster just means that the programmers have done what they should have in the begining: to optimize.
that's a far cry from the magical fairy dust that most people seem to imply when they bring this up.
and not to defend microsoft, but the truth is, vista will not need anywhere near what people seem to think. even more so if you pare down the eye candy and some other nuisances. those are current recommendations, during its beta phase (more like alpha but whatever). the final requiements will be significantly lower than what you're seeing now (requirements vs recommendations).
anyway, a 600-800 dollar pc purchased in late 2006 or one purchased now, is way more than adequate and in fact will run vista very quickly.
please do hate microsoft. they are deserving of much scorn. but this vector of attack is just plain dishonest. and coming from an apple user, one who overpays for apple hardware through the nose, is not an endearing position.
off topic:
as an aside, i saw in todays fry's ad, a 1.42 GHz mac mini for 700 bucks. an equivalent pc in terms of hardware would be over twice as fast and far more featureful in RAM, HD space and expansion. yes, it's not a direct comparison but it's just a continuation of what people see as apple overpricing hardware. and yes, a mid-high end G5 powermac is also overpriced in terms of pc hardware equivalency.
do a comparison and please don't bring up Dell. they are ridiculed even in the pc world for being shit. and one of the reasons pc's are my forte is that i can build one myself from parts as many pc users do. no one can upgrade a mac piece by piece, which means every 2 years, instead of spending 500-600 bucks, you have to buy a brand new mac. that is assuming you do upgrade ever.
i can't afford a mac even if i wanted to migrate. i cannot afford to buy a new mac every 2-4 years. and even then you don't get that mac with the options you want at the price that's quoted as being low. once you add on those things the price is way over budget.
just some thoughts, feel free to ignore them as you please.
the DRM monitor capability is so you don't "steal" "their" precious HD video on it's way from your computer to your monitor. or should i say their monitor and computer.
anyway, if you never watch bought HD video... well it'll be more and more difficult in the coming years to avoid it. it won't be a hinderance in the begining... which makes logical sense from their point of view. never trust the customer... err "consumer".
one wonders... how can apple show HD video without similar DRM on their platform and microsoft can't... i mean it's not like the intel processors and motherboards they'll be using for OSx86 have Insidious Computing inside...
the fact that you don't know what i'm talking about is why you said "please don't go on a political rant...".
you see, the reason that you praise the dreamcast so much is exactly why i'm "rant"ing.
see, any person who bought a dreamcast can run any program on the system they wish. it has nothing at all to do with "piracy" or as civilized people call it, copyright infringement. it has to do with actually having full access to the chips in it. and let me explain since you think it's about something else.
console manufacturers, under the guise of fighting "piracy", prevent you from lawfully having access to the chips you paid for. the chips being the cpu, the gfx , the sound, the storage and the network processors. if sega had taken even greater measures, you wouldn't have the "homebrew" scene we have today. sega and microsoft, sony and nintendo prevent people who BUY the consoles, from being actually to consider it their property.
yeah it's kind of hard to fathom for people who have no clue about property rights and the illegal shenanigans "consumers" have been so inundated with from "capitalist" companies. they are trying to RENT you the consoles but most people believe they are buying it outright. but if you buy it outright, how come you are prevented, legally and technically, from having access to the hardware (cpu etc) that you paid for?
so either they tell people upfrong it is a rental or they stop stealing the property of customers.
so when i say don't use the word "homebrew", it's because it does this issue a disservice. "homebrew" tends to imply something other than what is at stake here. people being able to program devices/computers they have paid for.
arbitrary code execution = fundamental right for devices you own. true, the companies don't have to provide schematics and APIs and documentation but to prevent owners using legal and technical means is extremely unethical , even more so under the guise of fighting copyright infringement. there are other ways of preventing copied games from being played, as we have seen on the pc game scene.
see all the wonderful programs people make for the processors in your dreamcast?
imagine all the wonderful programs people could make for the xbox360 or the ps3 or the revolution... all of those are devices that people purchase and have fully the right to use and cannot be impeded by law or technical restrictions unless you are under a contract and no one i know has signed a contract to buy such devices.
that's why i "rant". to let people know what's going on.
if sega had used Insidious Computing chips (aka DRM) , you would simply not have any possibility to program on the dreamcast. and each generation of consoles are becoming more "secure"... against the owner of the machine. that is a deplorable and reprehensible business practice and why i won't ever buy another console.
and it has nothing to do with "piracy"... that's their trump card. sort of like politicians saying "please, someone, won't you think of the children". they use the word "piracy" to make people think that something is being done and something that is in their benefit when in fact, it is the complete opposite.
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the university will refund their tuition for the year.
that's what i would expect at a minimum. on top of other punishment for letting it happen in the first place.
this only reinforces the notion i have that there is absolutely no privacy. once your data is in someone elses hands (and all your data does in fact belong to them) you can kiss your privacy goodbye.
there is no recourse whatsoever. you cannot even sue them or ask for damages.
your personal data is obviously worth something to sell to third party "warehouses" but when they expose your data to the whole world, at that point it ceases to be worth anything...
mine would have been Oblivion. even though i have a top notch computer to play the pc version, i wanted to be able to play from my couch or bed. i have some back pain and it's too difficult to play sitting on a chair for more than short periods of time.
but since the last generation of consoles, i have become aware of the kinds of issues such as the DRM that prevents the customer from having full access to the chips that i won't be buyng a next gen console or any in the future. it means nothing financially but i won't support such dastardly behavior with my money.
but pc gaming is very unfortunetly becoming like the console crowd. extremely invasive copy prevention methods like starforce and securom/safedisc that install drivers behind the users back and interfere with normal computer function is enough for me to avoid games that use those methods.
the gaming audience is usually the type of audience that will buy anything new and shiny regardless of its impact on their rights. just take a look at steam. steam makes starforce look like heaven-sent. i won't describe all the problems.. you only have to search the web for multiple examples and reasons.
we're just a society of people who want their fix right now and the consequences be damned. well i'm not going to follow that mentality.
"Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Mahatma Gandhi
6 was much better than 9, if for the only reason, you had a LOT more control of the situation.
but my favorite one is 4. it had just enough story to keep you playing but not overshadow the actual gameplay. it was simple yet rewarding.
i played 7... or rather i played it half way and i gave up. i couldn't muster the strength to continue to play such a boring game. the story became too much of the core rather than the actual gameplay. and the graphics were horrible, even for the time. i'd also rather they axe the fmvs, reduce the game to 1 disc and include more gameplay, more monsters, more items, more quests etc.
FMV/CGI = should have died a horrible and painful death in the 90's. what's the point of having 50GB next gen (DRM-crippled) discs if you're only going to fill them up with useless junk?
3d engines and gfx are so good now, there's absolutely no reason to not render cut scenes using the engines themselves. it's faster, in development time not to mention it takes up way less space.
and for heaven sakes, 3d is NOT the holy grail. don't use 3d in a game unless it really helps the game... which was not the case in ff7 and up. camera angles were atrocious on far more than one occasion. if you really wanted to use 3d in the ff series 7+, you could have rendered the game in 2d and used 3d only for battles. the best of both worlds if you value 3d that much. and then there's the kind of 3d that is displayed using a 2d side-view perspective.
that's like saying maybe we should wait for the courts to try OJ Simpson.
its obviously not as bad as that... it's worse.
Japan has already busted intel for EXACTLY the behavior AMD is alleging. and now South Korea is investigating Intel for the same types of business practices.
maybe if you live in a cave and have just heard about intel and how they manufacture cpus and stuff, i could give you the benefit of the doubt.
they don't have a leg to stand on.
if you want to avoid the reality, that's your business. whether the courts in the US find them guilty or not will only be consequential.
every single invidividual that has been following the tech industry knows what kinds of things intel does and they are not by chance, similar to what MS does/did. they are both monopolists and illegal ones at that.
and no i'm not an AMD fanboy.
i just choose their products because i don't reward asshole-type behavior, to the best of my ability.
you are free to choose any products you want but don't lie about it, for heaven sakes. at least be man enough to say " i like dirty and dishonest business and what do you think about that, bitch".
actually if you use the copyright system, as it originally and ideally should be used, you cannot control the way customers use your product. only distribution.
so if you want the benefits of copyright, then abide but its rules.
if you don't use copyright, then you may have a point. but that's something i haven't investigated yet.
if that were true, everyone with even a small bit of sense could see it.
the reason people get pissed off is that apple customers seem to defend them even in cases where the action isn't approved of by the rest of the computer using population.
personally, as i have grown up i have lost all sense of "loyalty" to companies and corporations. they simply, from my point of view, don't deserve anything of the kind.
i give them money in exchange for services/products. that's the extent of my relationship with those entities.
and/. is far more of an apple site than a linux/FOSS site. so some of the things that apply to ms (some) the apple users simply claim don't apply to apple. so it sets a double standard.
make of that whatever you will.
and i'm still not able to legally or technically install any version of osx on a computer of my choosing, even after waiving my right to support and warranty. but it's rather ironic that at least if not legally, then technically mac users can install windows on their computers.
anyway, back to our regularly scheduled propoganda.
homebrew = gives the wrong impression and is in essence incorrect.
you own the chips in the machines you buy but the manufacturers of the devices prevent you from having full access.
think about that while you're standing in line buying one of these computers they affectionately call consoles.
geeks loves shiny things and so do i but i hate DRM and loss of property rights far more.
i'll be sitting this one out.
we cannot afford to reward companies who behave in a manner such as this.
there are other ways of preventing copied games from being played. there's no legitimate reason to prevent the lawful access to those chips that customers paid for.
i know lots of people will buy them but what i want, at least, is that people think about these issues. even when you're playing those new fangled games on your closed DRM systems, give it some thought.
most people who are gamers have a ton of disposable cash anyway.
just buy all 3 and be done with it.
that's if you don't mind financially helping the DRM industry grow and rewarding companies that use it to hold the true owners of the machines hostage. but i digress.
the ps2 should have been reduced to 99 a couple of years back.
it's not worth anywhere near 150 they're asking for it these days.
the gamecube, a superior machine in every respect, was selling for 99 for a few years now.
yeah they're overcharging like a mother and that people have had to replace their ps2's because of the shoddy manufacturing... well that's just the icing on the cake.
at least the xbox comes with a hard drive and has superior construction and a better machine over all, costs 150 too.
yeah like every other console in history that has come out in japan first and has snubbed the rest of the world.
sounds like they're finally getting a taste of what they've been dishing out.
i mean why bother releasing in japan at all... this isn't the 80's or 90's... just leave it to nintendo and sony and let the console world expand beyond japan.
just because japan has been dominant the past decades doesn't mean they always will.
europe, north america and the rest of the world are a far far bigger audience than japan will ever be.
and the developers in japan will no doubt jump on the bandwagon... after all, if it makes money they have no choice.
actually my discussion is about whether people condone or endorse this "market" and illegal behavior.
yes , it happens all the time and we are awash with unethical and dishonest commerce.
my post was about that people, such as yourself, don't care a whit that business take ethics into consideration or even that the people should address their government to ensure that it's done in the overall public benefit.
so what do you want from companies and business in general?
do you think that any way they can make money, should be done?
should the government do anything to curb potentially irresponsible and harmful behavior?
do you see any limit to what can be done in the name of business and profits?
should intel be able to strongarm retailers into not selling amd products?
more importantly, should intel continue their predatory and harmful business practices?
clearly, they've been doing so for at least 10-15 years. do you approve of those actions or will you simply say "that is the way of the world" and ignore my questions?
if the cartels respected copyright and not increased the duration to greater than the time it takes the universe to die of heat loss and made it possible and legal to prevent lawful uses of purchased media (allowing backup for example) then the public would be far more inclined to respect copyright.
isn't it ironic that the first hollywood studios moved out west where the patent police couldn't bust them for "STEALING" Edison's work. sure patents and copyright are different but they both fall into, in their words, the "intellectual property" domain.
the onus is on them to fix their side before they can even remotely accuse anyone of not respecting copyright.
sorry offtopic but still, it needs to be addressed.
i thought that was implied but i guess i'll have to be more explicit in the future.
just to clarify a bit more... just because they haven't been caught doesn't make it legal and furthermore, just because it's legal (trying to tie up all loose ends) doesn't mean it doesn't harm customers or ugh "consumers".
that's what i mean by honest commerce. intel can make as much profit as it wants as long as they do it ethically and within the confines of the law.
then i don't have a problem with it.
but as you no doubt know, laws that are meant for the benefit of the public are being inverted in favor of corporate profits at the expense of the public. that's why i use the language above in the way that i do. you can interpolate the rest if you'd like or i'll spell it out for you if i have to.
Slashdot Mirror
try this link for a more informative look at vista.
x ?ArticleId=14763
x ?ArticleId=14850
take it for whatever it's worth, cause i'm not vouching for the authenticity. but it should be slightly more informative than "IE7, tabbed browsing and more eye candy".
part 1
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Print.asp
part 2
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Print.asp
and those are the print versions, not the spread - out - versions - like - some - links.
i didn't even know about many of the things that are apparently included.
anyway, back to the regularly scheduled propoganda.
you sort of sidestep the fact that osx was dog slow when it came out. that it has gotten faster just means that the programmers have done what they should have in the begining: to optimize.
that's a far cry from the magical fairy dust that most people seem to imply when they bring this up.
and not to defend microsoft, but the truth is, vista will not need anywhere near what people seem to think. even more so if you pare down the eye candy and some other nuisances. those are current recommendations, during its beta phase (more like alpha but whatever). the final requiements will be significantly lower than what you're seeing now (requirements vs recommendations).
anyway, a 600-800 dollar pc purchased in late 2006 or one purchased now, is way more than adequate and in fact will run vista very quickly.
please do hate microsoft. they are deserving of much scorn. but this vector of attack is just plain dishonest. and coming from an apple user, one who overpays for apple hardware through the nose, is not an endearing position.
off topic:
as an aside, i saw in todays fry's ad, a 1.42 GHz mac mini for 700 bucks. an equivalent pc in terms of hardware would be over twice as fast and far more featureful in RAM, HD space and expansion. yes, it's not a direct comparison but it's just a continuation of what people see as apple overpricing hardware. and yes, a mid-high end G5 powermac is also overpriced in terms of pc hardware equivalency.
do a comparison and please don't bring up Dell. they are ridiculed even in the pc world for being shit. and one of the reasons pc's are my forte is that i can build one myself from parts as many pc users do. no one can upgrade a mac piece by piece, which means every 2 years, instead of spending 500-600 bucks, you have to buy a brand new mac. that is assuming you do upgrade ever.
i can't afford a mac even if i wanted to migrate. i cannot afford to buy a new mac every 2-4 years. and even then you don't get that mac with the options you want at the price that's quoted as being low. once you add on those things the price is way over budget.
just some thoughts, feel free to ignore them as you please.
you can rest some what easy but not much.
the DRM monitor capability is so you don't "steal" "their" precious HD video on it's way from your computer to your monitor. or should i say their monitor and computer.
anyway, if you never watch bought HD video... well it'll be more and more difficult in the coming years to avoid it. it won't be a hinderance in the begining... which makes logical sense from their point of view. never trust the customer... err "consumer".
one wonders... how can apple show HD video without similar DRM on their platform and microsoft can't... i mean it's not like the intel processors and motherboards they'll be using for OSx86 have Insidious Computing inside...
hey that's a nice slogan for intel.
Insidious Inside.
no i knew you were making a joke. i just didn't address that part of it.
;-)
so CLEARLY you missed mine
sounds like those "well-known" algorithms have been backdoored or at least there are easy ways to decrypt them.
i mean why allow them to be exported if they are indeed "secure"?
perhaps he meant when they first started making video and arcade games.
in that case, it would be around 1980 or so. you can check the exact date but you get my point.
the fact that you don't know what i'm talking about is why you said "please don't go on a political rant...".
you see, the reason that you praise the dreamcast so much is exactly why i'm "rant"ing.
see, any person who bought a dreamcast can run any program on the system they wish. it has nothing at all to do with "piracy" or as civilized people call it, copyright infringement. it has to do with actually having full access to the chips in it. and let me explain since you think it's about something else.
console manufacturers, under the guise of fighting "piracy", prevent you from lawfully having access to the chips you paid for. the chips being the cpu, the gfx , the sound, the storage and the network processors. if sega had taken even greater measures, you wouldn't have the "homebrew" scene we have today. sega and microsoft, sony and nintendo prevent people who BUY the consoles, from being actually to consider it their property.
yeah it's kind of hard to fathom for people who have no clue about property rights and the illegal shenanigans "consumers" have been so inundated with from "capitalist" companies. they are trying to RENT you the consoles but most people believe they are buying it outright. but if you buy it outright, how come you are prevented, legally and technically, from having access to the hardware (cpu etc) that you paid for?
so either they tell people upfrong it is a rental or they stop stealing the property of customers.
so when i say don't use the word "homebrew", it's because it does this issue a disservice. "homebrew" tends to imply something other than what is at stake here. people being able to program devices/computers they have paid for.
arbitrary code execution = fundamental right for devices you own. true, the companies don't have to provide schematics and APIs and documentation but to prevent owners using legal and technical means is extremely unethical , even more so under the guise of fighting copyright infringement. there are other ways of preventing copied games from being played, as we have seen on the pc game scene.
see all the wonderful programs people make for the processors in your dreamcast?
imagine all the wonderful programs people could make for the xbox360 or the ps3 or the revolution... all of those are devices that people purchase and have fully the right to use and cannot be impeded by law or technical restrictions unless you are under a contract and no one i know has signed a contract to buy such devices.
that's why i "rant". to let people know what's going on.
if sega had used Insidious Computing chips (aka DRM) , you would simply not have any possibility to program on the dreamcast. and each generation of consoles are becoming more "secure"... against the owner of the machine. that is a deplorable and reprehensible business practice and why i won't ever buy another console.
and it has nothing to do with "piracy"... that's their trump card. sort of like politicians saying "please, someone, won't you think of the children". they use the word "piracy" to make people think that something is being done and something that is in their benefit when in fact, it is the complete opposite.
yes.
the university will refund their tuition for the year.
that's what i would expect at a minimum. on top of other punishment for letting it happen in the first place.
this only reinforces the notion i have that there is absolutely no privacy. once your data is in someone elses hands (and all your data does in fact belong to them) you can kiss your privacy goodbye.
there is no recourse whatsoever. you cannot even sue them or ask for damages.
your personal data is obviously worth something to sell to third party "warehouses" but when they expose your data to the whole world, at that point it ceases to be worth anything...
or the 5 billion world war 2 games that glorify war and violence?
there's far more propoganda coming out now then china could ever muster their 1Billion citizens to program to catch up.
everyone has their reason to buy a console.
mine would have been Oblivion. even though i have a top notch computer to play the pc version, i wanted to be able to play from my couch or bed. i have some back pain and it's too difficult to play sitting on a chair for more than short periods of time.
but since the last generation of consoles, i have become aware of the kinds of issues such as the DRM that prevents the customer from having full access to the chips that i won't be buyng a next gen console or any in the future. it means nothing financially but i won't support such dastardly behavior with my money.
but pc gaming is very unfortunetly becoming like the console crowd. extremely invasive copy prevention methods like starforce and securom/safedisc that install drivers behind the users back and interfere with normal computer function is enough for me to avoid games that use those methods.
the gaming audience is usually the type of audience that will buy anything new and shiny regardless of its impact on their rights. just take a look at steam. steam makes starforce look like heaven-sent. i won't describe all the problems.. you only have to search the web for multiple examples and reasons.
we're just a society of people who want their fix right now and the consequences be damned. well i'm not going to follow that mentality.
"Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." - Mahatma Gandhi
6 was much better than 9, if for the only reason, you had a LOT more control of the situation.
but my favorite one is 4. it had just enough story to keep you playing but not overshadow the actual gameplay. it was simple yet rewarding.
i played 7... or rather i played it half way and i gave up. i couldn't muster the strength to continue to play such a boring game. the story became too much of the core rather than the actual gameplay. and the graphics were horrible, even for the time. i'd also rather they axe the fmvs, reduce the game to 1 disc and include more gameplay, more monsters, more items, more quests etc.
FMV/CGI = should have died a horrible and painful death in the 90's. what's the point of having 50GB next gen (DRM-crippled) discs if you're only going to fill them up with useless junk?
3d engines and gfx are so good now, there's absolutely no reason to not render cut scenes using the engines themselves. it's faster, in development time not to mention it takes up way less space.
and for heaven sakes, 3d is NOT the holy grail. don't use 3d in a game unless it really helps the game... which was not the case in ff7 and up. camera angles were atrocious on far more than one occasion. if you really wanted to use 3d in the ff series 7+, you could have rendered the game in 2d and used 3d only for battles. the best of both worlds if you value 3d that much. and then there's the kind of 3d that is displayed using a 2d side-view perspective.
it's obviously illegal.
that's like saying maybe we should wait for the courts to try OJ Simpson.
its obviously not as bad as that... it's worse.
Japan has already busted intel for EXACTLY the behavior AMD is alleging. and now South Korea is investigating Intel for the same types of business practices.
maybe if you live in a cave and have just heard about intel and how they manufacture cpus and stuff, i could give you the benefit of the doubt.
they don't have a leg to stand on.
if you want to avoid the reality, that's your business. whether the courts in the US find them guilty or not will only be consequential.
every single invidividual that has been following the tech industry knows what kinds of things intel does and they are not by chance, similar to what MS does/did. they are both monopolists and illegal ones at that.
and no i'm not an AMD fanboy.
i just choose their products because i don't reward asshole-type behavior, to the best of my ability.
you are free to choose any products you want but don't lie about it, for heaven sakes. at least be man enough to say " i like dirty and dishonest business and what do you think about that, bitch".
actually if you use the copyright system, as it originally and ideally should be used, you cannot control the way customers use your product. only distribution.
so if you want the benefits of copyright, then abide but its rules.
if you don't use copyright, then you may have a point. but that's something i haven't investigated yet.
ironic isn't it.
sony = RIAA and MPAA member.
the lesser of two evils... but i cannot decide which one is which.
they're clearly not every bit as evil as ms.
/. is far more of an apple site than a linux/FOSS site. so some of the things that apply to ms (some) the apple users simply claim don't apply to apple. so it sets a double standard.
if that were true, everyone with even a small bit of sense could see it.
the reason people get pissed off is that apple customers seem to defend them even in cases where the action isn't approved of by the rest of the computer using population.
personally, as i have grown up i have lost all sense of "loyalty" to companies and corporations. they simply, from my point of view, don't deserve anything of the kind.
i give them money in exchange for services/products. that's the extent of my relationship with those entities.
and
make of that whatever you will.
and i'm still not able to legally or technically install any version of osx on a computer of my choosing, even after waiving my right to support and warranty. but it's rather ironic that at least if not legally, then technically mac users can install windows on their computers.
anyway, back to our regularly scheduled propoganda.
actually no opinion is irrelevant, maybe just to you but not in the grand scheme of things.
calling people trolls just because you disagree or don't like the person is an all too common mistake commited online.
you mean executing arbitrary code?
homebrew = gives the wrong impression and is in essence incorrect.
you own the chips in the machines you buy but the manufacturers of the devices prevent you from having full access.
think about that while you're standing in line buying one of these computers they affectionately call consoles.
geeks loves shiny things and so do i but i hate DRM and loss of property rights far more.
i'll be sitting this one out.
we cannot afford to reward companies who behave in a manner such as this.
there are other ways of preventing copied games from being played. there's no legitimate reason to prevent the lawful access to those chips that customers paid for.
i know lots of people will buy them but what i want, at least, is that people think about these issues. even when you're playing those new fangled games on your closed DRM systems, give it some thought.
then why not buy both?
that way you get twice as many choices of games.
most people who are gamers have a ton of disposable cash anyway.
just buy all 3 and be done with it.
that's if you don't mind financially helping the DRM industry grow and rewarding companies that use it to hold the true owners of the machines hostage. but i digress.
that's what the cell is.
an in-order ppc970 with 8 vector units bolted on.
never mind that the ppc970 comes with 1 altivec unit per core and the 360 has 3 cores...
the spe's are not ppc processors.
the ps2 should have been reduced to 99 a couple of years back.
it's not worth anywhere near 150 they're asking for it these days.
the gamecube, a superior machine in every respect, was selling for 99 for a few years now.
yeah they're overcharging like a mother and that people have had to replace their ps2's because of the shoddy manufacturing... well that's just the icing on the cake.
at least the xbox comes with a hard drive and has superior construction and a better machine over all, costs 150 too.
yeah like every other console in history that has come out in japan first and has snubbed the rest of the world.
sounds like they're finally getting a taste of what they've been dishing out.
i mean why bother releasing in japan at all... this isn't the 80's or 90's... just leave it to nintendo and sony and let the console world expand beyond japan.
just because japan has been dominant the past decades doesn't mean they always will.
europe, north america and the rest of the world are a far far bigger audience than japan will ever be.
and the developers in japan will no doubt jump on the bandwagon... after all, if it makes money they have no choice.
actually my discussion is about whether people condone or endorse this "market" and illegal behavior.
yes , it happens all the time and we are awash with unethical and dishonest commerce.
my post was about that people, such as yourself, don't care a whit that business take ethics into consideration or even that the people should address their government to ensure that it's done in the overall public benefit.
so what do you want from companies and business in general?
do you think that any way they can make money, should be done?
should the government do anything to curb potentially irresponsible and harmful behavior?
do you see any limit to what can be done in the name of business and profits?
should intel be able to strongarm retailers into not selling amd products?
more importantly, should intel continue their predatory and harmful business practices?
clearly, they've been doing so for at least 10-15 years. do you approve of those actions or will you simply say "that is the way of the world" and ignore my questions?
if the cartels respected copyright and not increased the duration to greater than the time it takes the universe to die of heat loss and made it possible and legal to prevent lawful uses of purchased media (allowing backup for example) then the public would be far more inclined to respect copyright.
isn't it ironic that the first hollywood studios moved out west where the patent police couldn't bust them for "STEALING" Edison's work. sure patents and copyright are different but they both fall into, in their words, the "intellectual property" domain.
the onus is on them to fix their side before they can even remotely accuse anyone of not respecting copyright.
sorry offtopic but still, it needs to be addressed.
profit = good if it's done legally.
i thought that was implied but i guess i'll have to be more explicit in the future.
just to clarify a bit more... just because they haven't been caught doesn't make it legal and furthermore, just because it's legal (trying to tie up all loose ends) doesn't mean it doesn't harm customers or ugh "consumers".
that's what i mean by honest commerce. intel can make as much profit as it wants as long as they do it ethically and within the confines of the law.
then i don't have a problem with it.
but as you no doubt know, laws that are meant for the benefit of the public are being inverted in favor of corporate profits at the expense of the public. that's why i use the language above in the way that i do. you can interpolate the rest if you'd like or i'll spell it out for you if i have to.