i'll remember about the laying - not a bad idea - sadly that normally isn't want we are working on. I don't just interview graphics designers i have to test for a wide range of jobs - i just used that as an example. but in our business the companies that we work with each one is different with their own environment and constraints and each job is nearly a custom job to fit their needs.. therefor people have to be very well rounded and willing to work with things they are out of their comfort zone on a regular basis.
I know what your saying and I know I don't do that.. when mentioned having someone debug in a different language it's always printed out and something that should be obvious (things like no exits from loops or conditions that can't be met)
first of all i'm not training "graphic artists" but rather trying to find people who know what they need to do.. trust me their portfolio matters a lot on that side.. and the tasks are very very very simple ones. some peoples portfolios look great but you have zero idea how long they spent on a given work. While you can't train someone to be an inspirational artist.. if i say i tell them exactly what i need and they can't produce anything then it is useless.
as for the debugging code - i don't sin them down in front of a computer.. i give it to them printed out.. if you are a C# programmer but can't tell that a loop in python doesn't have a means to exit, then i'm sorry.
One fresh East German immigrant was a real wizard, he e-mailed in a perfect answer, when we interviewed him on-site I asked him to do it again, but with 5 cycles in polar coordinates, he finished in 15 minutes with great looking code - we made him an offer and he accepted, but 3 hours later phoned back and sheepishly declined, it seems he hadn't discussed the possibility of moving with his girlfriend.
That to me sounds like a great candidate for a remote employee, of which we have three right now. More and more people here are starting to realize that we don't need to be in an office to get work done. It also helps widen the pool of talent we can tap.
Yea I have horrid spelling skills, i noticed them after i submitted but damn/. for not allowing edits.. I understand why they don't allow edits but it would be nice to do it if you could allow it from fixing typos and spelling/grammar only.
If you can't conduct the interviews, because of your people skills, how can you work with, train and motivate your staff?
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For me it's simple i am just a part of the hiring team - i guess i miss led when i said i hire/don't hire, rather i have my vote. My responsibility is to determine if they have the skills and ability to preform the job function they are being hired for. i am in no way an HR person or a manager other than for specific projects.
My bad people skills are not from be being an ass like some but rather me not realizing how other perceive my actions.. For example one thing that is bad that i am working on is, when talking/discussing a problem and working it out in my head i have a habit of staring in a random direction, i'm not actually looking at anything hell i couldn't tell you what my eyes are pointed at, but to the other person i'm talking to they view it as "rolling eyes"/not paying attention.
I'm sure i'm not the person you are thinking of.. and he is not "one of you[me]" as wasn't raised in an affluent household or given anything.
The reason I do this on interviews is because we are a small company (sub 30 people) in a very niche industry and job roles and responsibilities blur quite often. It takes ~6 months for a new hire to get acquainted with our company and know where they need to go to find what they need and also what all the terms used with clients mean. I don't want to spend that time with someone who is either going to leave in 2 years or can't handle being cross trained in something that isn't in their normal profession. Our average turnover rate is ~10 years.
When i do it i make sure to use an environment that has the same capabilities but they are not familiar with.
Example for a graphic artist when they list Photoshop i give them gimp (unless they have both then i give them painter). or give them OpenOffice instead of MS.. as for programming normally i will have them debug something that is a language they didn't put on their application, making sure the bug is an obvious one (not a syntax problem).
i look for how they solve the problem - some give up at the start, others try and figure it out, others will ask questions. when they are working and/or asking questions you can tell if they know what they need to do and are just confused by the environment or if they are completely lost. it is also a good way of testing their critical thinking skills.
i'd rather hire and train someone who will work out side of their comfort zone, has critical thinking skills, and has the ability to learn. then to hire and spin someone up who might be an good at something but that is all they can or will be able to do.
On a side note i'm not that great with people skills so while i write the tests i no longer do the interviews - last too applicants ended up crying during the tests.
it's not vendor lock - it's interface.. there is zero way you are going to tell me that consumer ATA drives have the same behavior as SCSI drives they just don't.
there are select sata drives that do behave well with raid controllers and they are the ones marked as enterprise drives.
SMART keeps counters for predictive failures - but the consumer drive does not pass the actual bad sector back to the controller but rather it remaps it internally - this is a different behavior and there for makes the drive unsuitable for the application.
I do agree that the issue lies in firmware - but it isn't something that can be changed (there are a few exceptions but they are exceptions not the rule) to allow consumer drives to be replacements for enterprise drives.
I agree with your point regarding IT moving too slow. I think the recent advent of smart devices (computers in your pocket) has taken IT in general by surprise and many are still trying to cope with end user demands and coming out bruised and battered.
that would only be true for IT groups that ignored PDA's - Windows CE has supported active Sync since 97+
the most common "failure" is due to how the drive firmware handles bad sectors
- a "enterprise" drive passes the bad sector info to the controller to allow it to remap and also use it as a predictive failure indicator.
- a "consumer" drive remaps internally and depending on the firmware it will try to recover the sector an in general hang/timeout on I/O while doing this
When a Raid controller sees the drive hang/timeout on I/O it is considered a "failed" drive. While people will argue that all it takes is a reset and the drive is good to go - it puts the array in a degraded state which puts data at risk and also reduces the array's performance - and don't forget to count the $in someones time dealing with it.
so explain to me how Apple doesn't do any of these things? you realize that for a long time now the main method of Jailbreaking their phones has been a PDF exploit that allows you to root the device.. not only is it documented and in actvice use, but it has been there for years now, and they still have not fixed it.
Oracle essentially flopped in that arena with their ultrasparc or whatever it was with a bunch of threads
It was Sun who did it before Oracle bought them - it was the Niagara CPU line. It didn't flop, for the people who needed that and where Sun customers it was wonderful, but out side of that ecosystem it had nearly zero application. then Oracle bought Sun and well everything seems to have flopped from that.
well if it's still governed under US laws as part of the agreement then it still falls under eminent domain..
if they can take peoples houses for economic growth why not the UN's buildings? i'm sure they could make a wonderful argument on how it would help by reducing costs (funding) and increasing the amount of commercial office space in NY.
It's not the US leaving and not being a part of it - it's just removing funding.
and consider i believe we fund 3/4 of the UNESCO's budget that might be a problem for the UNESCO.
I agree that the US should not be using cash to increase it's voting power - but i do find it sad the % of the UN we pay for and wouldn't mind that dropping.
Now that this has happened the UNESCO members can now all look at each other and them selves and figure out where to get the $ they need to fill their agenda.
i hope you only do this for your self and not anyone else - god for bid you need to roll one back or use a hotfix that requires a previous update be reapplied.
just for scale - using Wikipedia's numbers, in 2009 world wide rice production was 1,494,734,140,000 pounds so this would only account for ~0.024% of global production.
Also if you note the rice production in the US it is significantly smaller than world wide production but still larger than what is needed for this - it also would allow for it to be isolated from main production areas so you don't have just a high chance of the gene making it to the normal food supply.
doing GM crops in isolated non food production areas would allow the US to have a major export and not risk the world wide food production.
While i'm not for or against GM crops over all - i am against it in the Food supply or used haphazardly (even glare at Monsanto)
you know - to be honest both existed and i'm sure both had a wide background of where they came from.. Netscape is a branch of Mosaic - Mosaic did not change it's name to Netscape.
Netscape existed when it branched as Mosaic continued down it's won development path.. using that logic development of Netscape started after the development of Opera - deference is Netscape used an existing code base to start with.
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i'll remember about the laying - not a bad idea - sadly that normally isn't want we are working on. I don't just interview graphics designers i have to test for a wide range of jobs - i just used that as an example. but in our business the companies that we work with each one is different with their own environment and constraints and each job is nearly a custom job to fit their needs.. therefor people have to be very well rounded and willing to work with things they are out of their comfort zone on a regular basis.
I know what your saying and I know I don't do that .. when mentioned having someone debug in a different language it's always printed out and something that should be obvious (things like no exits from loops or conditions that can't be met)
Actually what i'm looking for is if they are capable of applying knowledge.
first of all i'm not training "graphic artists" but rather trying to find people who know what they need to do.. trust me their portfolio matters a lot on that side.. and the tasks are very very very simple ones. some peoples portfolios look great but you have zero idea how long they spent on a given work. While you can't train someone to be an inspirational artist.. if i say i tell them exactly what i need and they can't produce anything then it is useless.
as for the debugging code - i don't sin them down in front of a computer.. i give it to them printed out.. if you are a C# programmer but can't tell that a loop in python doesn't have a means to exit, then i'm sorry.
One fresh East German immigrant was a real wizard, he e-mailed in a perfect answer, when we interviewed him on-site I asked him to do it again, but with 5 cycles in polar coordinates, he finished in 15 minutes with great looking code - we made him an offer and he accepted, but 3 hours later phoned back and sheepishly declined, it seems he hadn't discussed the possibility of moving with his girlfriend.
That to me sounds like a great candidate for a remote employee, of which we have three right now. More and more people here are starting to realize that we don't need to be in an office to get work done. It also helps widen the pool of talent we can tap.
Yea I have horrid spelling skills, i noticed them after i submitted but damn /. for not allowing edits.. I understand why they don't allow edits but it would be nice to do it if you could allow it from fixing typos and spelling/grammar only.
If you can't conduct the interviews, because of your people skills, how can you work with, train and motivate your staff?
For me it's simple i am just a part of the hiring team - i guess i miss led when i said i hire/don't hire, rather i have my vote. My responsibility is to determine if they have the skills and ability to preform the job function they are being hired for. i am in no way an HR person or a manager other than for specific projects.
My bad people skills are not from be being an ass like some but rather me not realizing how other perceive my actions.. For example one thing that is bad that i am working on is, when talking/discussing a problem and working it out in my head i have a habit of staring in a random direction, i'm not actually looking at anything hell i couldn't tell you what my eyes are pointed at, but to the other person i'm talking to they view it as "rolling eyes"/not paying attention.
I'm sure i'm not the person you are thinking of.. and he is not "one of you[me]" as wasn't raised in an affluent household or given anything.
The reason I do this on interviews is because we are a small company (sub 30 people) in a very niche industry and job roles and responsibilities blur quite often. It takes ~6 months for a new hire to get acquainted with our company and know where they need to go to find what they need and also what all the terms used with clients mean. I don't want to spend that time with someone who is either going to leave in 2 years or can't handle being cross trained in something that isn't in their normal profession. Our average turnover rate is ~10 years.
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When i do it i make sure to use an environment that has the same capabilities but they are not familiar with.
Example for a graphic artist when they list Photoshop i give them gimp (unless they have both then i give them painter). or give them OpenOffice instead of MS.. as for programming normally i will have them debug something that is a language they didn't put on their application, making sure the bug is an obvious one (not a syntax problem).
i look for how they solve the problem - some give up at the start, others try and figure it out, others will ask questions. when they are working and/or asking questions you can tell if they know what they need to do and are just confused by the environment or if they are completely lost. it is also a good way of testing their critical thinking skills.
i'd rather hire and train someone who will work out side of their comfort zone, has critical thinking skills, and has the ability to learn. then to hire and spin someone up who might be an good at something but that is all they can or will be able to do.
On a side note i'm not that great with people skills so while i write the tests i no longer do the interviews - last too applicants ended up crying during the tests.
look at Lenovo you can get decent screens - including IPS screens..
it's not vendor lock - it's interface .. there is zero way you are going to tell me that consumer ATA drives have the same behavior as SCSI drives they just don't.
there are select sata drives that do behave well with raid controllers and they are the ones marked as enterprise drives.
SMART keeps counters for predictive failures - but the consumer drive does not pass the actual bad sector back to the controller but rather it remaps it internally - this is a different behavior and there for makes the drive unsuitable for the application.
I do agree that the issue lies in firmware - but it isn't something that can be changed (there are a few exceptions but they are exceptions not the rule) to allow consumer drives to be replacements for enterprise drives.
I agree with your point regarding IT moving too slow. I think the recent advent of smart devices (computers in your pocket) has taken IT in general by surprise and many are still trying to cope with end user demands and coming out bruised and battered.
that would only be true for IT groups that ignored PDA's - Windows CE has supported active Sync since 97+
the most common "failure" is due to how the drive firmware handles bad sectors
- a "enterprise" drive passes the bad sector info to the controller to allow it to remap and also use it as a predictive failure indicator.
- a "consumer" drive remaps internally and depending on the firmware it will try to recover the sector an in general hang/timeout on I/O while doing this
When a Raid controller sees the drive hang/timeout on I/O it is considered a "failed" drive. While people will argue that all it takes is a reset and the drive is good to go - it puts the array in a degraded state which puts data at risk and also reduces the array's performance - and don't forget to count the $in someones time dealing with it.
so explain to me how Apple doesn't do any of these things? you realize that for a long time now the main method of Jailbreaking their phones has been a PDF exploit that allows you to root the device.. not only is it documented and in actvice use, but it has been there for years now, and they still have not fixed it.
when i said believe is what i remember reading - but hey if i can't remember right then so be it..
to me most politics look like children fighting, you want to just tell both sides to shut up and leave it alone.
Oracle essentially flopped in that arena with their ultrasparc or whatever it was with a bunch of threads
It was Sun who did it before Oracle bought them - it was the Niagara CPU line. It didn't flop, for the people who needed that and where Sun customers it was wonderful, but out side of that ecosystem it had nearly zero application. then Oracle bought Sun and well everything seems to have flopped from that.
well if it's still governed under US laws as part of the agreement then it still falls under eminent domain..
if they can take peoples houses for economic growth why not the UN's buildings? i'm sure they could make a wonderful argument on how it would help by reducing costs (funding) and increasing the amount of commercial office space in NY.
no act of ware needed.
It's not the US leaving and not being a part of it - it's just removing funding.
and consider i believe we fund 3/4 of the UNESCO's budget that might be a problem for the UNESCO.
I agree that the US should not be using cash to increase it's voting power - but i do find it sad the % of the UN we pay for and wouldn't mind that dropping.
Now that this has happened the UNESCO members can now all look at each other and them selves and figure out where to get the $ they need to fill their agenda.
i hope you only do this for your self and not anyone else - god for bid you need to roll one back or use a hotfix that requires a previous update be reapplied.
just for scale - using Wikipedia's numbers, in 2009 world wide rice production was 1,494,734,140,000 pounds so this would only account for ~0.024% of global production.
Also if you note the rice production in the US it is significantly smaller than world wide production but still larger than what is needed for this - it also would allow for it to be isolated from main production areas so you don't have just a high chance of the gene making it to the normal food supply.
doing GM crops in isolated non food production areas would allow the US to have a major export and not risk the world wide food production.
While i'm not for or against GM crops over all - i am against it in the Food supply or used haphazardly (even glare at Monsanto)
IANAL, but I do wonder if owning property entitles me to a certain limit of airspace over my land....just thinking
Up to 500 ft.. after that is public air space.
you know - to be honest both existed and i'm sure both had a wide background of where they came from.. Netscape is a branch of Mosaic - Mosaic did not change it's name to Netscape.
Netscape existed when it branched as Mosaic continued down it's won development path.. using that logic development of Netscape started after the development of Opera - deference is Netscape used an existing code base to start with.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_web_browsers