[user@host] $ telnet www.permits.gov 80 Trying... Connected to www.permits.gov. Escape character is '^]'. GET/building.permit?applicant=sco&building_type=UNIX <PERMIT> <H3>Because you are SCO, you have been granted a permit to do anything you want to.</H3> <P>Signed,<BR> The Government</P> </PERMIT> Connection closed by foreign host
Looks like the owners of the site didn't want to get slashdotted, so they decided to redirect anyone who came to the site from slashdot. They weren't smart enough, though, to realize that the browser is going to have to download the entire page before it can be redirected since they did the redirect in JavaScript. Therefore, they are still capable of being slashdotted. What a bunch of morons!
However, if you visit the page directly, as in not coming from the slashdot link, you will see the rather rough message that tells you to go get the superior browser IE. These guys don't care that Netscape users can't see the site.
Well, let's see. At Best Buy, you can get RedHat, Mandrake, SuSE, Caldera, TurboLinux, and my personal favorite, Slackware. All of these come with what you need for an "e-business webserver," which is a kernel, a shell, and a webserver. Any company who needs anything else surely has high bandwidth to download whatever else they need. Such company should also have a Linux admin on hand that wouldn't need support anyway. They aren't really that hard to find.
There has been HTTP over routers for a long time. I know for a fact that CISCO has optional (you have to turn it on) HTTP interfaces for configuring their routers. I don't see any reason why that couldn't be used to serve other static pages.
Deja surely has dropped the ball. Instead of just going to the site and searching for Usenet articles, I have to wade through mounds of advertising before I can get to the search form.
Not only does the Internet need a better Usenet search engine, it needs an entire Usenet frontend. More and more ISPs are either not offering news service, or simply pointing people to supernews.com. To me, that's a waste of time, as supernews is often overloaded, and the traditional Usenet interface isn't exactly as user-friendly as it once was, what with it being mostly spam and porn these days
I'd like to see a site that I can not only use to search, but also to post and reply to Usenet articles. I could give out a lot of help and free advice if only I didn't have to fire up a news reader. Don't get me wrong, because I love command-line interfaces, but just being able to bring up the relevant information is much more helpful than having to look through a buch of posts about how I should buy these printers or use these domain registration services.
Brad Johnson --We are the Music Makers, and we are the Dreamers of Dreams
Well, I know that the Hubble was just recently upgraded to 386 status, a project that cost US taxpayers somewhere in the neighborhood of three billion dollars. Imagine that just to insert a $5 processer!
Considering that most all of what the Hubble has to do is to collect data, send it to a satellite, and to re-position the lens, NASA most likely has written a little code in straight assembly instead of using an OS, so you're probably right about that. Satellites themselves just collect and receive data, so again, that's relatively simple. Shuttles, however, perform a wide variety of tasks, so the probablity that they have an OS on board is higher.
Assuming that NASA will use Linux becase of "no budget" is ridiculous. NASA's budget has been reduced, not truncated to zero. The price of any OS is just a fraction of the costs of any of their equipment, so I don't see any reason there to use Linux.
Also, assuming that they would use Linux because a lot of NASA employees are contributors is equally ridiculous. More likely, the reason that many NASA employees contribute to the various Linux projects is because of their level of intelligence and the fact that they personally use Linux. After all, they couldn't possibly get everything done in Window$ that they would need to do.
Brad Johnson --We are the Music Makers, and we are the Dreamers of Dreams
I've wondered before if you can GPL parts of your code, but not the entire thing. For instance, could you make all of your header files, where the actual functions live, GPL and leave the main routines in another license? You'd still be giving people what they look for, but not everything.
Of course, there is a line in the GPL which keeps you from being able to attach any extra restrictions to the license. I've known of a few places, Slashdot being one of them, who have tried to violate that, probably unknowingly. For instance, take a look at the code page for Slashdot, and notice where Rob says you have to link back to Slashdot. I'm sure that was an honest mistake on his part, and if you take a look at the license on Slashcode, you'll see that the restriction isn't included there.
The point is that I think dragging licenses together is adding extra restrictions to the GPL, something that is clearly forbidden in it's body.
Brad Johnson --We are the Music Makers, and we are the Dreamers of Dreams
Though it's not actually an easter egg, you can see it when configuring the source for Enlightenment. While all of the stuff is rolling by, you'll see it say
checking for large quantities of bass_ale in refridgerator...not found checking for large quantities of any_ale in refridgerator...not found
Then it says you need to get more ale!
Also, when compiling Eterm, you'll see a message like this:
checking for life_signs in kenny...not found oh my god! you killed kenny! you bastard!
Not really an easter egg, but definately worth a laugh.
Brad Johnson --We are the Music Makers, and we are the Dreamers of Dreams
See, the thing is, Microsoft Proxy Server only supports HTTP. It won't support FTP, Telnet, or anything else. I ran into this problem at a place that I used to work, and many of the other workers had a hard time ftping and such.
My solution was to set up a UNIX proxy server using squid, but that really didn't solve everything. Eventually, I got a job at an Internet company where I could make the rules. Much better that way!
Brad Johnson --We are the Music Makers, and we are the Dreamers of Dreams
I agree, but programming from a shell account has it's downfalls.
One of the things that would have to draw kids to programs is being able to see their output. This isn't as easy in Windows as it is in Linux. I think the best thing would be to get them doing some GTK+ stuff, some QT stuff, maybe a little Motif stuff, that way, they can see what's going on. Making it more visual is only a bonus.
I started doing BASIC when I was 5, and that was cool. But when our instructor showed us how to draw things on the screen based on our input, that's when it really blew my mind! That was what made me want to program.
Brad Johnson --We are the Music Makers, and we are the Dreamers of Dreams
Just a suggestion, but how about using Sourceforge? The accounts are free, they give you web, ftp, CVS, and shell account access. They're hosting hundreds of projects now, and I haven't heard any complaints. If you want to do something on your own servers, though, you can get Sourceforge's source code for free, too.
Brad Johnson --We are the Music Makers, and we are the Dreamers of Dreams
Dude, Linux in all of the versions that you mentioned above is 2.2.x. That's the kernel version. Each distribution has versioning numbers of their own. The only distribution that really makes sense with the version numbering is Caldera (but that doesn't give any good reason to actually use that, though), who numbers their distros based on the Linux kernel number.
When people say Linux, they are typically referring to a distribution, a group of files already compiled and packaged with the kernel, which makes everything run. Actually, Linux is just the kernel (vmlinux-* or vmlinuz-* that sits in your/boot directory). Read a HOWTO from The LDP for more information.
Brad Johnson --We are the Music Makers, and we are the Dreamers of Dreams
Think about it people. Do we really want an Online University? Do we want a bunch of script kiddies running around with their hacked degrees, flooding the job market based on false credentials? Essentially, that's what this cound entail.
In all reality, however, It's most probable that little will come of this. A university that is available entirely online is of little worth. Most colleges across the nation are starting online classes as we speak, so they fill the void already that an online university could hope for. I don't know about you, but I'll be happy with my paper degree, handed to me by a living dean, and the knowledge that I gained from real professors (and maybe a Teaching Assistant here and there). We don't need to focus on building new universities. Just make the ones that are already there better!
Brad Johnson --We are the Music Makers, and we are the Dreamers of Dreams
Has the relationship been consumated? If so, then an annullment is out of the question. Unless, of course, one of them is a Kennedy. Then you can get an annullment at a price (usually depending on how many children you have).
I don't know, though. This anullment might have to go all the way to the Pope! Somebody get Kurt on the phone!
Brad Johnson --We are the Music Makers, and we are the Dreamers of Dreams
I do hope that this doesn't get moderated down because I am replying due to my own question.
When I asked if there would ever be a "developer" version of Mandrake, I didn't mean a distribution that automatically included all of the developer tools. I do use Mandrake 7.0, and I do have all of the developer tools installed. What I was referring to would be something a bit more like Debian, where things are quite so user-friendly and "windowsish". In other words, a distribution that would be more fun for developers to play around with.
I realize that Debian exists for this purpose, but I would like to see a variety of developer platforms of Linux. I think that the community as a whole seems to be forgetting that Linux started as Linus's hobby, and grew to be the hobby of dedicated hackers everywhere. Now, Linux has moved to the corporate world (even though I do love the new "business Tux"/. icon) and the roots and history are really gone.
Brad Johnson --We are the Music Makers, and we are the Dreamers of Dreams
What's this talk about AOL? This really doesn't make sense. AOL is WinWare, and the last time I checked, with no intention to ever support Linux. In fact, most Linux users wouldn't touch AOL with a ten-foot pole.
AOL's proprietary network protocols already screw up Windows. If you've got problems and happen to have AOL installed, all you have to do is remove that funky "AOL adapter" from your network protocols and things get better. Do we really want them screwing with Linux, throwing their protocols in, and generally kludging things up? I doubt it!
I've really got nothing againgst AOL as a company. They've got near world-wide access. But their procedures leave a lot to be desired. If a standard ISP had as big an infrastructure as AOL does, that would be great (or if AOL would revert to standard protocols).
Brad Johnson --We are the Music Makers, and we are the Dreamers of Dreams
Sorry to break this to ya, bub, but if you actually read the article about Intel, you'd see that HP is already planning to sell systems within a week. Have you seen any packaged systems with an Athlon yet?
Brad Johnson --We are the Music Makers, and we are the Dreamers of Dreams
Of course, the mainstream preference seems to be towards first-person shoot 'em up type games, but I for one enjoy racing games (Need for Speed, NASCAR, and the like). Does Loki have any plans for porting other types of games to Linux, and if so, how about working on joystick/periphial support?
Brad Johnson --We are the Music Makers, and we are the Dreamers of Dreams
Slashdot Mirror
[user@host] $ telnet www.permits.gov 80 /building.permit?applicant=sco&building_type=UNIX
Trying...
Connected to www.permits.gov.
Escape character is '^]'.
GET
<PERMIT>
<H3>Because you are SCO, you have been granted a permit to do anything you want to.</H3>
<P>Signed,<BR>
The Government</P>
</PERMIT>
Connection closed by foreign host
Here's what I would do:
That should completely wipe it out.
Looks like the owners of the site didn't want to get slashdotted, so they decided to redirect anyone who came to the site from slashdot. They weren't smart enough, though, to realize that the browser is going to have to download the entire page before it can be redirected since they did the redirect in JavaScript. Therefore, they are still capable of being slashdotted. What a bunch of morons!
However, if you visit the page directly, as in not coming from the slashdot link, you will see the rather rough message that tells you to go get the superior browser IE. These guys don't care that Netscape users can't see the site.
Well, let's see. At Best Buy, you can get RedHat, Mandrake, SuSE, Caldera, TurboLinux, and my personal favorite, Slackware. All of these come with what you need for an "e-business webserver," which is a kernel, a shell, and a webserver. Any company who needs anything else surely has high bandwidth to download whatever else they need. Such company should also have a Linux admin on hand that wouldn't need support anyway. They aren't really that hard to find.
only 1 of which ever is actually seen in public
You're absolutely right, only one bug ever seen by the public. What's that one bug? Well, IE, of course!
Just to let you know, QNX RTP already supports DVD. It comes with a software-decoding DVS player.
Not meaning to troll, but you don't have an e-mail address specified anywhere. How can a /. reader get in touch with you?
There has been HTTP over routers for a long time. I know for a fact that CISCO has optional (you have to turn it on) HTTP interfaces for configuring their routers. I don't see any reason why that couldn't be used to serve other static pages.
Not only does the Internet need a better Usenet search engine, it needs an entire Usenet frontend. More and more ISPs are either not offering news service, or simply pointing people to supernews.com. To me, that's a waste of time, as supernews is often overloaded, and the traditional Usenet interface isn't exactly as user-friendly as it once was, what with it being mostly spam and porn these days
I'd like to see a site that I can not only use to search, but also to post and reply to Usenet articles. I could give out a lot of help and free advice if only I didn't have to fire up a news reader. Don't get me wrong, because I love command-line interfaces, but just being able to bring up the relevant information is much more helpful than having to look through a buch of posts about how I should buy these printers or use these domain registration services.
Brad Johnson
--We are the Music Makers, and we
are the Dreamers of Dreams
Considering that most all of what the Hubble has to do is to collect data, send it to a satellite, and to re-position the lens, NASA most likely has written a little code in straight assembly instead of using an OS, so you're probably right about that. Satellites themselves just collect and receive data, so again, that's relatively simple. Shuttles, however, perform a wide variety of tasks, so the probablity that they have an OS on board is higher.
Assuming that NASA will use Linux becase of "no budget" is ridiculous. NASA's budget has been reduced, not truncated to zero. The price of any OS is just a fraction of the costs of any of their equipment, so I don't see any reason there to use Linux.
Also, assuming that they would use Linux because a lot of NASA employees are contributors is equally ridiculous. More likely, the reason that many NASA employees contribute to the various Linux projects is because of their level of intelligence and the fact that they personally use Linux. After all, they couldn't possibly get everything done in Window$ that they would need to do.
Brad Johnson
--We are the Music Makers, and we
are the Dreamers of Dreams
Of course, there is a line in the GPL which keeps you from being able to attach any extra restrictions to the license. I've known of a few places, Slashdot being one of them, who have tried to violate that, probably unknowingly. For instance, take a look at the code page for Slashdot, and notice where Rob says you have to link back to Slashdot. I'm sure that was an honest mistake on his part, and if you take a look at the license on Slashcode, you'll see that the restriction isn't included there.
The point is that I think dragging licenses together is adding extra restrictions to the GPL, something that is clearly forbidden in it's body.
Brad Johnson
--We are the Music Makers, and we
are the Dreamers of Dreams
Yes, it was a line from Willy Wonka, but my signature contributes it to it's original author. That's where Willy got it from.
Brad Johnson
--We are the Music Makers, and we
are the Dreamers of Dreams
Also, when compiling Eterm, you'll see a message like this:
Not really an easter egg, but definately worth a laugh.
Brad Johnson
--We are the Music Makers, and we
are the Dreamers of Dreams
Alright, guys. In my opinion, we have a winner here. Anybody else want to back me up on that one? And moderators: bump this MST3k post up!
Brad Johnson
--We are the Music Makers, and we
are the Dreamers of Dreams
My solution was to set up a UNIX proxy server using squid, but that really didn't solve everything. Eventually, I got a job at an Internet company where I could make the rules. Much better that way!
Brad Johnson
--We are the Music Makers, and we
are the Dreamers of Dreams
I agree, but programming from a shell account has it's downfalls.
One of the things that would have to draw kids to programs is being able to see their output. This isn't as easy in Windows as it is in Linux. I think the best thing would be to get them doing some GTK+ stuff, some QT stuff, maybe a little Motif stuff, that way, they can see what's going on. Making it more visual is only a bonus.
I started doing BASIC when I was 5, and that was cool. But when our instructor showed us how to draw things on the screen based on our input, that's when it really blew my mind! That was what made me want to program.
Brad Johnson
--We are the Music Makers, and we
are the Dreamers of Dreams
ftp1.netscape.com
ftp2.netscape.com
ftp3.netscape.com
ftp4.netscape.com
ftp5.netscape.com
ftp6.netscape.com
ftp7.netscape.com
ftp8.netscape.com
I pulled it off at around 500k/s. Try one of those and you'll be happy!
Brad Johnson
--We are the Music Makers, and we
are the Dreamers of Dreams
Just a suggestion, but how about using Sourceforge? The accounts are free, they give you web, ftp, CVS, and shell account access. They're hosting hundreds of projects now, and I haven't heard any complaints. If you want to do something on your own servers, though, you can get Sourceforge's source code for free, too.
Brad Johnson
--We are the Music Makers, and we
are the Dreamers of Dreams
When people say Linux, they are typically referring to a distribution, a group of files already compiled and packaged with the kernel, which makes everything run. Actually, Linux is just the kernel (vmlinux-* or vmlinuz-* that sits in your /boot directory). Read a HOWTO from The LDP for more information.
Brad Johnson
--We are the Music Makers, and we
are the Dreamers of Dreams
In all reality, however, It's most probable that little will come of this. A university that is available entirely online is of little worth. Most colleges across the nation are starting online classes as we speak, so they fill the void already that an online university could hope for. I don't know about you, but I'll be happy with my paper degree, handed to me by a living dean, and the knowledge that I gained from real professors (and maybe a Teaching Assistant here and there). We don't need to focus on building new universities. Just make the ones that are already there better!
Brad Johnson
--We are the Music Makers, and we
are the Dreamers of Dreams
I don't know, though. This anullment might have to go all the way to the Pope! Somebody get Kurt on the phone!
Brad Johnson
--We are the Music Makers, and we
are the Dreamers of Dreams
When I asked if there would ever be a "developer" version of Mandrake, I didn't mean a distribution that automatically included all of the developer tools. I do use Mandrake 7.0, and I do have all of the developer tools installed. What I was referring to would be something a bit more like Debian, where things are quite so user-friendly and "windowsish". In other words, a distribution that would be more fun for developers to play around with.
I realize that Debian exists for this purpose, but I would like to see a variety of developer platforms of Linux. I think that the community as a whole seems to be forgetting that Linux started as Linus's hobby, and grew to be the hobby of dedicated hackers everywhere. Now, Linux has moved to the corporate world (even though I do love the new "business Tux" /. icon) and the roots and history are really gone.
Brad Johnson
--We are the Music Makers, and we
are the Dreamers of Dreams
AOL's proprietary network protocols already screw up Windows. If you've got problems and happen to have AOL installed, all you have to do is remove that funky "AOL adapter" from your network protocols and things get better. Do we really want them screwing with Linux, throwing their protocols in, and generally kludging things up? I doubt it!
I've really got nothing againgst AOL as a company. They've got near world-wide access. But their procedures leave a lot to be desired. If a standard ISP had as big an infrastructure as AOL does, that would be great (or if AOL would revert to standard protocols).
Brad Johnson
--We are the Music Makers, and we
are the Dreamers of Dreams
Sorry to break this to ya, bub, but if you actually read the article about Intel, you'd see that HP is already planning to sell systems within a week. Have you seen any packaged systems with an Athlon yet?
Brad Johnson
--We are the Music Makers, and we
are the Dreamers of Dreams
Of course, the mainstream preference seems to be towards first-person shoot 'em up type games, but I for one enjoy racing games (Need for Speed, NASCAR, and the like). Does Loki have any plans for porting other types of games to Linux, and if so, how about working on joystick/periphial support?
Brad Johnson
--We are the Music Makers, and we
are the Dreamers of Dreams