Actually the Fairphones model 1 did come pre-rooted (I own one).
At this moment with the model 2 it seems you need to install one of Fairphone-provided alternative rooted ROMs instead, which many original users felt negative, but still there are detailed how-tos and apprarently many more users wanting the baseline as it is now...
My main issue being that with a model 1 that can last many more years (by replacing the replaceable battery) I didn't feel the need to change;-)
Then you have the Jolla Sailfish operating system, that contrary to rooted androids is fully separate from Google (with obviously less apps). There are not many phones supporting it, but again Fairphones do. There was even a Jolla phone (very nice northern Europe design) but I understand it is now a couple years old so 'not so fast'...
Liferea, as already said, but for the cases you don't have your own machine, you may install the very simple php script Krissfeed (http://github.com/tontof/kriss_feed) on any server you can access. Efficient and simple. I retrieved my long feedlist from Liferea and have it there too, just in case...
+1 for Liferea. After trying RSSOwl that appeared more faulty apparently. Liferea works with dozens of feeds, is able to handle thousands of news without breaking, to lock significant ones, to show the corresponding html page on request. Only criticism : no ad filter. As this is the single app on my machine that does not filter, it's regularly painful. But in those cases, one also can 'open in the outside browser'...
OK, the only phones supporting it are Fairphones -but indeed thanks to the fashion for larger screens, their model 2 managed to be quite on par with the flock, while they designed it from scratch, and every bit inside is dismountable with a simple screwdriver (and of course you can replace the battery)
They come with Android as default, but the machine supports explicitly Sailfish and Firefox OS.
And on Sailfish, swiping from the sides is basically the main engine to reach settings and switch apps... And, you are the device admin.
(disclaimer : I own a Fairphone 1, not the 2 alas)
I'm worried that there be so many spit before I found you. Most of the previous comments I read are just petty indeed:-D That's a concern about what/. audience is becoming:-(
H. (using FF on linux, pc and mac for everything -quietly forgetting iCab, the first ad-blocking browser 10y before FF was born, because indeed FF is easier to set -and, well, I'm migrating everything on linux now)
Your post carries a very surprising statement : that the risk on you is only if you do some criticable activities. (it also denotes a specific way of seeing life) Most of the people don't do criticable activities, so, as you say, there is no frightening around this.
But they *buy* things on internet -so they can be stolen. (I personally was, twice) But they *publish* personal info on internet -so this can be used (you really are on holidays all next week, and you even published a picture of your front door with its GPS location? Really? And you have a friends subgroup specifically titled with your political preferences, over there in Gmail cloudy memory? Really?)
And all of the above has nothing to see with criticable activities. We all have holidays.
I, for one, believe these things are critical : I say critical, and not 'potentially dangerous', because it should be obvious the thing already happened. There is no need to consider some new laws -the opening *has* happened. What didn't happen yet is some government using it systematically. It's not new laws that we need, nor actually more prudence -it's way too late.
What we need is think about how to behave when some powerful institution starts exploiting internet seriously. How to prepare ourselves. I have *very few* ideas, and I believe if we don't think about it, when we need it we won't react properly.
I don't know if our youth is different than what we were when the youth were us:-) But I very clearly remember being 18 and my high-school-prep math teacher telling us that we definitely were gnats because, contrary to her, we weren't trained into learning full Greek theater acts, which would definitely have helped (according to her) for remembering theorem demonstrations. Indeed. And, well, I remembered 10-pages demonstrations without Greek...
Indeed I know people in the field of disabled people that'd give gold for this kind of stuff... That the authors didn't talk about this market is a clear lack of maturity.
I'm very late in the stream here, and I also know it's quite overused to start a comment with "I am surprised not seeing product XYZ";-) But still, come on, nobody here mentioning shared, end-user-based storage like for instance https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/ta... ?
My understanding is as soon as you can provide a machine permanently connected to internet, offering a given storage volume, the very purpose of systems like Tahoe-lafs is to provide open-source, shared, encrypted and redundant storage -linux-based... And they are very active...
We now have two laptops that we bought with Linux preinstalled, and specs above Apple's at the time we ordered (in January). We didn't get them from Syst76 because delivering abroad from the US and with 'local' keyboards wasn't feasible for them, we ordered from Tuxedo in Germany. Honestly, from casings to processors they really look similar, there musn't be so many equipment suppliers.
Well, Tuxedo explain they also raised this question of developing their own versions of linux flavors (you can select which linux you want with Tux), but they instead chose to prepare a separate package dedicated to their hardwares, which one can apply after a standard linux install. (Their commitment on this only works with a 'short list' of linux versions -most of them Ubuntu based IIRC.)
I believe, if you are serious in proposing a range of hardware with linux preinstalled, sooner or later you cannot but consider you are at risk whenever any linux update is issued, and these are issued in a manner you can't control.
Syst76 way is one reaction, Tuxedo's is another, but I do understand that when your full business is potentially killable by an unexpected update you think about it. And when I say killable it's very real, just imagine suddenly all your machines do not support e. g. bluetooth -a single, minor feature like that. Within hours, in ten forums, hundreds of posters will insult you, you sell sh.., doesn't work, don't buy that. I for one wouldn'd sleep before deciding for a strategy...
And me that used my (not-for-profit) ISP free VPN only for paying on foreign wifis. I may well switch it on by default, after all... H. (P. S. yes, there are not-for-profit ISPs. In France, FDN for instance, boldly independent since practically the creation of internet accesses...)
In the 50's, radiophones were analog, which means definitely whatever the spectrum available only very few users could use it at a time, isn't it? IMHO only the much greater share allowed by numerics, sampling and compression did open the thing to many users. (and maybe some here remember, yet in the beginnings compressed voice handling were still rather bad) I don't buy the "because of the FCC we didn't get it". Almost a fake new.
moving from OSX to windows would demand me exactly the same time investment for the same app shift, with the additional nicetie of being owned by microsoft -which was the very reason I chose apple, dozens of years ago when there was no 'app market'...
I'm not really into this, but I installed Firejail here (basic Ubuntu Mate), and among the examples given one specifically explained how to not only 'jail Steam engine', but also firejail the Steam installer itself (that contains closed source). And as I found this explained somewhere in my non-english language, I presume the thing must be extremely well known elsewhere;-) Ah, I found an english-speaking url : http://jorisvr.nl/article/stea...
:-D and now, I'm thinking this sentence does convey information indeed : what it means, is that the authors of EndlessOS feel they are so much unknown, that they need to heavily insist on their noble Linux origins:-) A sentence like that to me is a repellent, I thank you for having raised my attention there. I'll come back when they feel secure enough to not need hitch hiking... (indeed let's leave this thread altogether)
since for the rest I am on Linux and never will have a win partition (nor a virtual machine), and don't even know Nintendo or PS4 (I'll have to ask my sons, but they seem to be old enough to have forgotten;-) So I am not hardcore, or maybe you may think twice before claiming "Everrry..."
I for one am shifting, in full agreement with S. O., from various macintoshes (used for 30 years on) to obviously Linux. Obviously there is time spent selecting the right replacements to OSX usual apps, specially as I cannot accept things resembling Win crap. But even for the most arcane ones (a paper library manager that both autocompletes entries from internet sources and exports to open formats and to android, a raw image converter that properly deal with luminance curves and one-year-old serious cameras, an RSS reader that is something else than a puddle of intrusive messages...) the only difficulty lise in choosing. This, definitely costs time. But compared to the 30 years I had on OSX, it's just nothing. And now I'm not owned anymore by google, apple or microsoft app-walled-gardens. Leaving you Wannacry;-) H.
Yes, Firefox. (With, on linux, alternative like Pale Moon and Min -for I always felt the need of being able to cross-try an ugly site with something else; on mac iCab also excels, being the one that invented adfiltering, what, ten years before Firefox was even born.) Chrome is Google, and I don't Google. Firefox is open, and from mac to linux this'll always remain key for me.
+1. Reading/. on Liferea here (because I, too, saw RSSOwl abandoned -but definitely Liferea is alive and well) Chances are I'll just abandon a site who abandons RSS... H. P. S. and, BTW, Daily Kos RSS feed is http://feeds.dailykos.com/dail... -which at least Liferea handles perfectly;-)
I'm not sur Signal covers all and every features of snapchat, but it's open, and in the tradeoff I made before adopting it there were a couple of others too...
Slashdot Mirror
Actually the Fairphones model 1 did come pre-rooted (I own one).
At this moment with the model 2 it seems you need to install one of Fairphone-provided alternative rooted ROMs instead, which many original users felt negative, but still there are detailed how-tos and apprarently many more users wanting the baseline as it is now...
My main issue being that with a model 1 that can last many more years (by replacing the replaceable battery) I didn't feel the need to change ;-)
Then you have the Jolla Sailfish operating system, that contrary to rooted androids is fully separate from Google (with obviously less apps).
There are not many phones supporting it, but again Fairphones do.
There was even a Jolla phone (very nice northern Europe design) but I understand it is now a couple years old so 'not so fast'...
Liferea, as already said, but for the cases you don't have your own machine, you may install the very simple php script Krissfeed (http://github.com/tontof/kriss_feed) on any server you can access. Efficient and simple. I retrieved my long feedlist from Liferea and have it there too, just in case...
+1 for Liferea. After trying RSSOwl that appeared more faulty apparently.
Liferea works with dozens of feeds, is able to handle thousands of news without breaking, to lock significant ones, to show the corresponding html page on request. Only criticism : no ad filter. As this is the single app on my machine that does not filter, it's regularly painful. But in those cases, one also can 'open in the outside browser'...
OK, the only phones supporting it are Fairphones -but indeed thanks to the fashion for larger screens, their model 2 managed to be quite on par with the flock, while they designed it from scratch, and every bit inside is dismountable with a simple screwdriver (and of course you can replace the battery)
They come with Android as default, but the machine supports explicitly Sailfish and Firefox OS.
And on Sailfish, swiping from the sides is basically the main engine to reach settings and switch apps...
And, you are the device admin.
(disclaimer : I own a Fairphone 1, not the 2 alas)
I'm worried that there be so many spit before I found you. Most of the previous comments I read are just petty indeed :-D /. audience is becoming :-(
That's a concern about what
H.
(using FF on linux, pc and mac for everything
-quietly forgetting iCab, the first ad-blocking browser 10y before FF was born, because indeed FF is easier to set -and, well, I'm migrating everything on linux now)
Your post carries a very surprising statement : that the risk on you is only if you do some criticable activities.
(it also denotes a specific way of seeing life)
Most of the people don't do criticable activities, so, as you say, there is no frightening around this.
But they *buy* things on internet -so they can be stolen. (I personally was, twice)
But they *publish* personal info on internet -so this can be used (you really are on holidays all next week, and you even published a picture of your front door with its GPS location? Really? And you have a friends subgroup specifically titled with your political preferences, over there in Gmail cloudy memory? Really?)
And all of the above has nothing to see with criticable activities. We all have holidays.
I, for one, believe these things are critical : I say critical, and not 'potentially dangerous', because it should be obvious the thing already happened.
There is no need to consider some new laws -the opening *has* happened.
What didn't happen yet is some government using it systematically.
It's not new laws that we need, nor actually more prudence -it's way too late.
What we need is think about how to behave when some powerful institution starts exploiting internet seriously.
How to prepare ourselves.
I have *very few* ideas, and I believe if we don't think about it, when we need it we won't react properly.
I don't know if our youth is different than what we were when the youth were us :-)
But I very clearly remember being 18 and my high-school-prep math teacher telling us that we definitely were gnats because, contrary to her, we weren't trained into learning full Greek theater acts, which would definitely have helped (according to her) for remembering theorem demonstrations. Indeed.
And, well, I remembered 10-pages demonstrations without Greek...
Indeed I know people in the field of disabled people that'd give gold for this kind of stuff...
That the authors didn't talk about this market is a clear lack of maturity.
I'm very late in the stream here, and I also know it's quite overused to start a comment with "I am surprised not seeing product XYZ" ;-)
But still, come on, nobody here mentioning shared, end-user-based storage like for instance https://tahoe-lafs.org/trac/ta... ?
My understanding is as soon as you can provide a machine permanently connected to internet, offering a given storage volume, the very purpose of systems like Tahoe-lafs is to provide open-source, shared, encrypted and redundant storage -linux-based... And they are very active...
or... you drop it...
(now, I do exactly this too -but I'm dearly aware of the fragility of daily walking with HDs...)
http://sydneypadua.com/2dgoggl... ;-)
And you can order the book
We now have two laptops that we bought with Linux preinstalled, and specs above Apple's at the time we ordered (in January). We didn't get them from Syst76 because delivering abroad from the US and with 'local' keyboards wasn't feasible for them, we ordered from Tuxedo in Germany. Honestly, from casings to processors they really look similar, there musn't be so many equipment suppliers.
Well, Tuxedo explain they also raised this question of developing their own versions of linux flavors (you can select which linux you want with Tux), but they instead chose to prepare a separate package dedicated to their hardwares, which one can apply after a standard linux install.
(Their commitment on this only works with a 'short list' of linux versions -most of them Ubuntu based IIRC.)
I believe, if you are serious in proposing a range of hardware with linux preinstalled, sooner or later you cannot but consider you are at risk whenever any linux update is issued, and these are issued in a manner you can't control.
Syst76 way is one reaction, Tuxedo's is another, but I do understand that when your full business is potentially killable by an unexpected update you think about it.
And when I say killable it's very real, just imagine suddenly all your machines do not support e. g. bluetooth -a single, minor feature like that. Within hours, in ten forums, hundreds of posters will insult you, you sell sh.., doesn't work, don't buy that.
I for one wouldn'd sleep before deciding for a strategy...
And me that used my (not-for-profit) ISP free VPN only for paying on foreign wifis.
I may well switch it on by default, after all...
H.
(P. S. yes, there are not-for-profit ISPs. In France, FDN for instance, boldly independent since practically the creation of internet accesses...)
In the 50's, radiophones were analog, which means definitely whatever the spectrum available only very few users could use it at a time, isn't it?
IMHO only the much greater share allowed by numerics, sampling and compression did open the thing to many users. (and maybe some here remember, yet in the beginnings compressed voice handling were still rather bad)
I don't buy the "because of the FCC we didn't get it". Almost a fake new.
moving from OSX to windows would demand me exactly the same time investment for the same app shift, with the additional nicetie of being owned by microsoft -which was the very reason I chose apple, dozens of years ago when there was no 'app market'...
I'm not really into this, but I installed Firejail here (basic Ubuntu Mate), and among the examples given one specifically explained how to not only 'jail Steam engine', but also firejail the Steam installer itself (that contains closed source). ;-)
And as I found this explained somewhere in my non-english language, I presume the thing must be extremely well known elsewhere
Ah, I found an english-speaking url : http://jorisvr.nl/article/stea...
:-D :-)
and now, I'm thinking this sentence does convey information indeed : what it means, is that the authors of EndlessOS feel they are so much unknown, that they need to heavily insist on their noble Linux origins
A sentence like that to me is a repellent, I thank you for having raised my attention there.
I'll come back when they feel secure enough to not need hitch hiking... (indeed let's leave this thread altogether)
since for the rest I am on Linux and never will have a win partition (nor a virtual machine), and don't even know Nintendo or PS4 (I'll have to ask my sons, but they seem to be old enough to have forgotten ;-)
So I am not hardcore, or maybe you may think twice before claiming "Everrry..."
I for one am shifting, in full agreement with S. O., from various macintoshes (used for 30 years on) to obviously Linux. ;-)
Obviously there is time spent selecting the right replacements to OSX usual apps, specially as I cannot accept things resembling Win crap.
But even for the most arcane ones (a paper library manager that both autocompletes entries from internet sources and exports to open formats and to android, a raw image converter that properly deal with luminance curves and one-year-old serious cameras, an RSS reader that is something else than a puddle of intrusive messages...) the only difficulty lise in choosing.
This, definitely costs time. But compared to the 30 years I had on OSX, it's just nothing.
And now I'm not owned anymore by google, apple or microsoft app-walled-gardens.
Leaving you Wannacry
H.
Yes, Firefox.
(With, on linux, alternative like Pale Moon and Min -for I always felt the need of being able to cross-try an ugly site with something else; on mac iCab also excels, being the one that invented adfiltering, what, ten years before Firefox was even born.)
Chrome is Google, and I don't Google. Firefox is open, and from mac to linux this'll always remain key for me.
+1. /. on Liferea here (because I, too, saw RSSOwl abandoned -but definitely Liferea is alive and well) ;-)
Reading
Chances are I'll just abandon a site who abandons RSS...
H.
P. S. and, BTW, Daily Kos RSS feed is http://feeds.dailykos.com/dail... -which at least Liferea handles perfectly
I'm not sur Signal covers all and every features of snapchat, but it's open, and in the tradeoff I made before adopting it there were a couple of others too...
for me, that's mostly what Snapchat is -of course I only use Signal already :-)
The best way to be within the 0.1% ;-)
On top of a Fairphone hardware for instance...
All is in the title...