Bombastinator, I fully follow you and appreciate your detailed analysis. I have a side question : could it be imaginable that someone would sue Apple for having prevented others to use the patented idea, say, "preventing lifes to be saved by preventing the application of this idea by others"? That's this "preventing others to save lifes" that picks me. But probably the same answer you detail would apply...
The current, last-generation Fairphones are not only fully modular, but all the bits can be dismounted with a single normal screwdriver, and each part can be replaced separately in case of failure (and of course, the battery too). My understanding is Fairphone, who started from a more compact model (which I own), evolved this way profiting from the trend to enlarge devices (bigger screens) : this allowed them to design element interfaces that otherwise wouldn't have fit in smaller models. And IMHO that was a very wise move : they basically brought the design back to Europe (from China) way before being, er... tweeted to do so... My only issue with this model is its cost (some 500€, twice the previous model). As the thing is very recent there are not many alternate elements for now (I hear about better cameras, saw a breadboard for a large USB slot allowing the use of these hardware-key-dongles...) But it definitely is a Lego-like phone (inside!), comes optionally rooted and optionally with Sailfish OS instead of Android, two SIM slots... almost a dream come true for me... And my experience with the earlier Fairphone1 is excellent.
(...) "Go is so much more complex than chess, so it will never be mastered by a machine".
I am not this old, but I *perfectly* remember having owned a book on computing that addressed the same topic 30 years ago with the previous-level example: "tick-tac-toe is lost to the AI but chess is so much more complex, so it will never be mastered...":-)
I am in contact with you on the site and preparing a switch, but one thing I didn't manage to track is the keyboard flavors on the lightest models (I mean the 1.4Kg 'Infinitybooks' and their 15' counterparts). Contrary to most other models where one can select the keyboard language easily on the description page, on these supercompact aluminium frames I don't see a way to, for instance, get a french AZERTY keyboard, short of... dismounting keys? Any info on this would be very significant to help my choice...
Other than this the spec comparison with the new macbook is refreshing:-)
One last thing : while you do commit on a variety of Linux flavors that are selectable straight upon ordering, I don't see LinuxMint in the list. Other than on the (german) support newsgroup, is there some data about Mint?
Ah yes, I see -for now they'll try to correct only "misleading language", not informative features or flamebaits etc. They still have, let's say politely, a large growth potential;-) CowboyNeal should have patented metamod:-D
I see some mentioned Syst76 (whose machines aren't delivered to Europe), but missing here I think are Zareason, ThinkPenguin and more prominently Tuxedo indeed. All of them sell you configuration with Linux pre-installed and working out of the box. Starting there for instance: www.tuxedocomputers.com/Linux-Hardware/Linux-Notebooks/10-14-Zoll/TUXEDO-Book-BU1406-14-matt-Full-HD-IPS-bis-Intel-Core-i7-Energiespar-CPU-zwei-HDD/SSD-bis-32GB-RAM-bis-12h-Akku-Slim-Book-LTE-opt..geek One can check spec-for-spec against the latest Apple gear (and easily can overpass all of them) This is basically what I intend to switch to, in January...
From the Jolla forums, and also the discussions on the Fairphone forums (as the Fairphone 2 does support Jolla Sailfish OS as an alternative to Android), I understand that the machine that allowed android apks to run inside Jolla in their earlier phone hardware is not any more present in the current v2 of the OS. Now, maybe they managed to convince the former (independent) developers of the said machine to join again, or maybe this happened very recently. Or this announcement will motivate them:-) An entrypoit for checking : http://reviewjolla.blogspot.fr...
Never got a cold anymore since I have been going to work with this good old bicycle. For years. Now of course this only became possible once we didn't need to bring children to school, etc. So probably there is room for chemical things...
Do I understand correctly that compared to Diaspora, Telegram - is closed source instead of open - but allow instant anonymous posting, while Diaspora requires you set up a minimal account on one of the pods? (which allows actual users instead of totally anonymous posts) H.
An example among many other configs on their site: 15' 32Gb RAM Kaby Lake i7-7500U SATAIII 2048Gb SSD M.2 513Gb SSD 44Wh replaceable battery 2Kg (with battery) circa 2400€ And there are MANY other machines, lighter, stronger, at wish. I for one have been using macs since the Apple II. Next year, it'll be Mint-based Tuxedo machines. (an url for the config above : http://www.tuxedocomputers.com... )
The german Tuxedo proposes even more models than Syst76 or Zareason... I won't post the urls here so as not to offend ad-adverts too much;-) But they too propose machines as light as the MBP, with Kaby Lake processors, twice to four times more RAM, multiple, terabyte SSDs... and basically within same cost. As an amateur photograph, and having tried the open source Darktable and RawTherapee on the mac, my next machine early next year will definitely be a Tuxedo...
indeed. The German Tuxedo, ahead of Syst 76 and else, show among many others a config with KL il 17500 , 32GB RAM, all possible ports (incl USB 3-1) , up to 3 SSD HD incl. 2048 fast ones , removable battery (yes), 2kg , the preloaded Linux you want, all of this within roughly the same cost.
Michel, if you are disappointed then try my own algorithm : "weather tomorrow will be the same as today" -I guarantee the accuracy is higher than 50%. We are running just behind them indeed -maybe they have a similar predictor!
Exactly. And the only thing surprisingly "colossal" here is the number of people still not understanding what a monopoly is. What a walled garden is. What relying on a single source is.
Could this bug be used, not to do devilish things, but to help me rooting my devices in a simple way, so that afterwards I could at least install the firewalls I already have on my old Fairphone*? (*) that came pre-rooted by default, contrary to the new ones
I have this too (in France, with Credit Cooperatif). The 'small card reader" is in fact enormous (worth 10 cards piled up, plus larger and longer). With another french bank (the post office), we receive an SMS with a code one must enter on their site to validate the transaction. Weightless... as long as you have a phone (granted, this is very often). But the rolling number on the card itself is definitely lighter.
You are perfectly right, sir. At the pole there is air, and fishes, and penguins to eat. Life must be terrifyingly hard, but you still have the essentials. And still nobody wants to settle there. Indeed, when there'll be no room left at the poles, then maybe the next worst place will be Mars. Now, before that, a billionaire can definitely play with sillies, even killing them legally...
I must say I am a bit naive on these questions, being over 50 now. I always used macs or small linux laptops, and while currently on mac I definitely would like to switch. Such a switch is something costly to me, and I don't want to fail. I use to choose rather recent hardware and then keep it for years. I won't invest before a couple of months. My motivation is definitely independence from walled gardens, but still needing some efficiency (to take an example, it'll be Darktable or Rawtherapee rather than the Gimp, and I'm very sensitive to the fact these are quite slow on my macbook pro).
At this moment I am hesitating between Dell 'perfect adequation to linux drivers' and Librem 'extending privacy down to hardware'.
But what I need is a more precise comparison: do you think one is clearly more efficient than the other, being on processing power, screen or privacy?
Recent stories like the one on that 'USB dongle that gets your admin credentials in 20s' turned me a bit sceptical on the hardware level. -but this may as well be a reason to be more careful with it?
Looks like an ISP-specific, less elaborate trick than PingTunnel, which OTOH has no wrapper on android/iOS AFAIK... But quite brilliant from a single person!
Bombastinator, I fully follow you and appreciate your detailed analysis. I have a side question : could it be imaginable that someone would sue Apple for having prevented others to use the patented idea, say, "preventing lifes to be saved by preventing the application of this idea by others"?
That's this "preventing others to save lifes" that picks me.
But probably the same answer you detail would apply...
The current, last-generation Fairphones are not only fully modular, but all the bits can be dismounted with a single normal screwdriver, and each part can be replaced separately in case of failure (and of course, the battery too).
My understanding is Fairphone, who started from a more compact model (which I own), evolved this way profiting from the trend to enlarge devices (bigger screens) : this allowed them to design element interfaces that otherwise wouldn't have fit in smaller models.
And IMHO that was a very wise move : they basically brought the design back to Europe (from China) way before being, er... tweeted to do so...
My only issue with this model is its cost (some 500€, twice the previous model).
As the thing is very recent there are not many alternate elements for now (I hear about better cameras, saw a breadboard for a large USB slot allowing the use of these hardware-key-dongles...)
But it definitely is a Lego-like phone (inside!), comes optionally rooted and optionally with Sailfish OS instead of Android, two SIM slots... almost a dream come true for me...
And my experience with the earlier Fairphone1 is excellent.
(...) "Go is so much more complex than chess, so it will never be mastered by a machine".
I am not this old, but I *perfectly* remember having owned a book on computing that addressed the same topic 30 years ago with the previous-level example: "tick-tac-toe is lost to the AI but chess is so much more complex, so it will never be mastered..." :-)
And what is the reaction mass for the pressure of light on a surface?
(In space we deal with this all the time, as a perturbation in general)
sorry for not having mod points...
This from France, where we too are heading to a maxi-christian leader in the coming months...
I am in contact with you on the site and preparing a switch, but one thing I didn't manage to track is the keyboard flavors on the lightest models (I mean the 1.4Kg 'Infinitybooks' and their 15' counterparts).
Contrary to most other models where one can select the keyboard language easily on the description page, on these supercompact aluminium frames I don't see a way to, for instance, get a french AZERTY keyboard, short of... dismounting keys?
Any info on this would be very significant to help my choice...
Other than this the spec comparison with the new macbook is refreshing :-)
One last thing : while you do commit on a variety of Linux flavors that are selectable straight upon ordering, I don't see LinuxMint in the list. Other than on the (german) support newsgroup, is there some data about Mint?
TIA!
H.
Ah yes, I see -for now they'll try to correct only "misleading language", not informative features or flamebaits etc. ;-) :-D
They still have, let's say politely, a large growth potential
CowboyNeal should have patented metamod
I see some mentioned Syst76 (whose machines aren't delivered to Europe), but missing here I think are Zareason, ThinkPenguin and more prominently Tuxedo indeed. All of them sell you configuration with Linux pre-installed and working out of the box.
Starting there for instance: www.tuxedocomputers.com/Linux-Hardware/Linux-Notebooks/10-14-Zoll/TUXEDO-Book-BU1406-14-matt-Full-HD-IPS-bis-Intel-Core-i7-Energiespar-CPU-zwei-HDD/SSD-bis-32GB-RAM-bis-12h-Akku-Slim-Book-LTE-opt..geek
One can check spec-for-spec against the latest Apple gear (and easily can overpass all of them)
This is basically what I intend to switch to, in January...
I certainly was offered a complete refund. Which, as I said, I refused.
From the Jolla forums, and also the discussions on the Fairphone forums (as the Fairphone 2 does support Jolla Sailfish OS as an alternative to Android), I understand that the machine that allowed android apks to run inside Jolla in their earlier phone hardware is not any more present in the current v2 of the OS. :-)
Now, maybe they managed to convince the former (independent) developers of the said machine to join again, or maybe this happened very recently.
Or this announcement will motivate them
An entrypoit for checking : http://reviewjolla.blogspot.fr...
At least, to those that wanted.
I for one abandoned the repayment to help them.
because that's what the OP announced here.
Now, I didn't need to try to see it was google -only...
Never got a cold anymore since I have been going to work with this good old bicycle. For years.
Now of course this only became possible once we didn't need to bring children to school, etc.
So probably there is room for chemical things...
Do I understand correctly that compared to Diaspora, Telegram
- is closed source instead of open
- but allow instant anonymous posting, while Diaspora requires you set up a minimal account on one of the pods?
(which allows actual users instead of totally anonymous posts)
H.
An example among many other configs on their site:
15'
32Gb RAM
Kaby Lake i7-7500U
SATAIII 2048Gb SSD
M.2 513Gb SSD
44Wh replaceable battery
2Kg (with battery)
circa 2400€
And there are MANY other machines, lighter, stronger, at wish.
I for one have been using macs since the Apple II. Next year, it'll be Mint-based Tuxedo machines.
(an url for the config above : http://www.tuxedocomputers.com... )
The german Tuxedo proposes even more models than Syst76 or Zareason... ;-)
I won't post the urls here so as not to offend ad-adverts too much
But they too propose machines as light as the MBP, with Kaby Lake processors, twice to four times more RAM, multiple, terabyte SSDs... and basically within same cost.
As an amateur photograph, and having tried the open source Darktable and RawTherapee on the mac, my next machine early next year will definitely be a Tuxedo...
indeed. The German Tuxedo, ahead of Syst 76 and else, show among many others a config with KL il 17500 , 32GB RAM, all possible ports (incl USB 3-1) , up to 3 SSD HD incl. 2048 fast ones , removable battery (yes), 2kg , the preloaded Linux you want, all of this within roughly the same cost.
Michel, if you are disappointed then try my own algorithm : "weather tomorrow will be the same as today" -I guarantee the accuracy is higher than 50%.
We are running just behind them indeed -maybe they have a similar predictor!
All is in the title.
And, my Fairphone does have removable batteries...
Exactly.
And the only thing surprisingly "colossal" here is the number of people still not understanding what a monopoly is. What a walled garden is. What relying on a single source is.
Could this bug be used, not to do devilish things, but to help me rooting my devices in a simple way, so that afterwards I could at least install the firewalls I already have on my old Fairphone*?
(*) that came pre-rooted by default, contrary to the new ones
I have this too (in France, with Credit Cooperatif). The 'small card reader" is in fact enormous (worth 10 cards piled up, plus larger and longer).
With another french bank (the post office), we receive an SMS with a code one must enter on their site to validate the transaction. Weightless... as long as you have a phone (granted, this is very often).
But the rolling number on the card itself is definitely lighter.
You are perfectly right, sir.
At the pole there is air, and fishes, and penguins to eat. Life must be terrifyingly hard, but you still have the essentials.
And still nobody wants to settle there.
Indeed, when there'll be no room left at the poles, then maybe the next worst place will be Mars.
Now, before that, a billionaire can definitely play with sillies, even killing them legally...
I must say I am a bit naive on these questions, being over 50 now. I always used macs or small linux laptops, and while currently on mac I definitely would like to switch.
Such a switch is something costly to me, and I don't want to fail. I use to choose rather recent hardware and then keep it for years.
I won't invest before a couple of months.
My motivation is definitely independence from walled gardens, but still needing some efficiency (to take an example, it'll be Darktable or Rawtherapee rather than the Gimp, and I'm very sensitive to the fact these are quite slow on my macbook pro).
At this moment I am hesitating between Dell 'perfect adequation to linux drivers' and Librem 'extending privacy down to hardware'.
But what I need is a more precise comparison: do you think one is clearly more efficient than the other, being on processing power, screen or privacy?
Recent stories like the one on that 'USB dongle that gets your admin credentials in 20s' turned me a bit sceptical on the hardware level. -but this may as well be a reason to be more careful with it?
TIA!
Looks like an ISP-specific, less elaborate trick than PingTunnel, which OTOH has no wrapper on android/iOS AFAIK...
But quite brilliant from a single person!