and it is legal to re-use it.
quote MS XP Home EULA:
"13. SOFTWARE TRANSFER. Internal. You may move the Software to a different Workstation Computer. After the transfer, you must completely remove the Software from the former Workstation Computer. Transfer to Third Party. The initial user of the Software may make a one-time permanent transfer of this EULA and Software to another end user, provided the initial user retains no copies of the Software. This transfer must include all of the Software (including all component parts, the media and printed materials, any upgrades, this EULA, and, if applicable, the Certificate of Authenticity). The transfer may not be an indirect transfer, such as a consignment. Prior to the transfer, the end user receiving the Software must agree to all the EULA terms."
Now sure I don't expect all would actually remove it from there old computer, but that's their responsibility to do so. If my old computer died but I was able to clone the information of the old hard drive and put it onto a new machine, why not, why would I want to pay for XP a second time, I've paid for it once.
yeah... I think some people here open and think insecure. But open source is better than free software. Because when people here free they usually think insecure, and poorly made.
Lightsabers do not generate heat. I forget which encyclopedia or other starwars resource that's from. But they do not use heat to cut. This does not mean that the things they cut do not get hot. I assume it's through some atomization process.
perhaps, but I find that software to be less than a reason to say it's holding Linux back. Computer's are rarely purchased for a toddler to play some educational game. They are however purchased for things like doing homework. And 90% of homework can be done on a Linux box, because most of it is writing papers. Seems like that's all I've done since elementary school. Infact Linux seems better to me for homework
I agree with this. Infact I don't even know what he means by "lack of educational software" I am in collge and graduated highschool 3 years ago. The only real educational software I've seen is for learning keyboarding, and my school has an infatuation with making me pay for one other piece of software... for our 'INF' (Word, Excel, Access, etc) classes It's called SAM. I have notice all sorts of software that could have been used for teaching things like science in KDE but I never saw the schools use it for windows. So I really wish I knew what he was referring to.
funny I don't run KDE... I know I have to have it's libraries for some of the KDE apps I use... But I don't have to run KDE to run KOffice. I also think compiling koffice including kde-libs is faster than compiling openoffice I could be wrong though. I haven't timed it. Koffice definitely starts faster. But I don't think I can install it on windows. that's fine I don't use windows for anything other than games anymore anyhow.
base is fairly new and it will mature in time. I agree though it sucks... Access is better, I had a database of my Video Game cd keys in Access, then Windows died and I couldn't open it. I would never use Access in a production environment though. But for a very small home database I thought it worked good.
Been there. I would tell them and intend to from now on that I will gladly submit to the.docs if they will first buy me a copy of windows and word as I can not afford them. Obviously do to the proprietary nature word will only work on windows and I can only make.docs in word.
(of course I know this isn't true but this kind of person isn't likely to know this, as they are already too ignorant to accept a pdf.)
they will of course say no to this. Then ask them what else you could do to meet there requirements. They will mention a library or a computer lab. Tell them you do not have enough time during those places hours of business, and ask them if they have other suggestions, in there ignorance they will have none. Re-suggest that with the availability of free readers that perhaps they would accept that format.
This probably won't work because these kind of people can't be bothered to think outside the box of there tiny little brains, and it definitely won't work if they know you own both. I would try it though. You could also try giving them one of the letters RMS has put out about this.
I agree with that. But I would rather submit pdf's than doc's. But copying text is easy with adobe acrobat. you just have to turn on text selection. It's not on by default. I can't really blame people for not wanting to deal with Open Document though, the majority of people don't even know what it is. They certainly wouldn't have a clue as to where to find a reader. Telling them to download open office (or Koffice 1.5 when it's stable) and it's their problem won't work. So I give them pdf's and if they want to edit it I'll give them an open document and tell them where to get an editor. Most of what I submit most people have no business editing anyway, like my resume, or a paper for class.
to post my correction somplace more visible "ah thank you I have yet to print something... I probably would have noticed that later tonight when I print my papers. They should have it be an obvious button like OpenOffice does. My mistake. I only installed it a few weeks ago though and haven't used it that much yet." I still don't see that I can save to.doc though at least not that I can see. not that I like saving to.doc, I only do that when that's the only way someone will take my submission. I always export or 'print' to pdf these days because if at all possible I refuse to save to.doc because I don't believe that it should be as standardized as it is. Everyone should have a pdf reader. If nothing else adobe acrobat. It's free however word costs $100+ I think. Some places seem to only accept.doc submissions though.
ah thank you I have yet to print something... I probably would have noticed that later tonight when I print my papers. They should have it be an obvious button like OpenOffice does. My mistake. I only installed it a few weeks ago though and haven't used it that much yet.
the lack of filetype's suppported. It doesn't, I think support exporting to pdf, nor does it support.doc. This is it's only real drawbacks. Otherwise I am starting to like it better than OpenOffice especially because it has the office feature I wanted. tabs so I can have multiple documents open in one window at once. Which is what I want as otherwise I almost end up with several office windows open at once and it gets so cluttered.
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all of those viruses you've been hearing about so much. you can even take advantage of the slightly less popular trojans and worms.
not so much as wanting to pay women and minorities less but getting a $$$ break from the government to hire them.
get rid of this damn foundation. I want it back under the system it had when Dan Robbins was here, and I want him back
These pricks running the show now are idiots
I love Gentoo. Go ahead and flame away. Yes I am a Gentoo zealot
and it is legal to re-use it. quote MS XP Home EULA: "13. SOFTWARE TRANSFER. Internal. You may move the Software to a different Workstation Computer. After the transfer, you must completely remove the Software from the former Workstation Computer. Transfer to Third Party. The initial user of the Software may make a one-time permanent transfer of this EULA and Software to another end user, provided the initial user retains no copies of the Software. This transfer must include all of the Software (including all component parts, the media and printed materials, any upgrades, this EULA, and, if applicable, the Certificate of Authenticity). The transfer may not be an indirect transfer, such as a consignment. Prior to the transfer, the end user receiving the Software must agree to all the EULA terms." Now sure I don't expect all would actually remove it from there old computer, but that's their responsibility to do so. If my old computer died but I was able to clone the information of the old hard drive and put it onto a new machine, why not, why would I want to pay for XP a second time, I've paid for it once.
Hi Steve. Posting on Slashdot again? No chairs this time?
yeah... I think some people here open and think insecure. But open source is better than free software. Because when people here free they usually think insecure, and poorly made.
whatever happened to ghost? is it ever gonna finish?
Lightsabers do not generate heat. I forget which encyclopedia or other starwars resource that's from. But they do not use heat to cut. This does not mean that the things they cut do not get hot. I assume it's through some atomization process.
mod up please.
perhaps, but I find that software to be less than a reason to say it's holding Linux back. Computer's are rarely purchased for a toddler to play some educational game. They are however purchased for things like doing homework. And 90% of homework can be done on a Linux box, because most of it is writing papers. Seems like that's all I've done since elementary school. Infact Linux seems better to me for homework
I agree with this. Infact I don't even know what he means by "lack of educational software" I am in collge and graduated highschool 3 years ago. The only real educational software I've seen is for learning keyboarding, and my school has an infatuation with making me pay for one other piece of software... for our 'INF' (Word, Excel, Access, etc) classes It's called SAM. I have notice all sorts of software that could have been used for teaching things like science in KDE but I never saw the schools use it for windows. So I really wish I knew what he was referring to.
I want Pinky and the Brain. How much will that cost?
Hi Bill nice to see your still posting.
funny I don't run KDE... I know I have to have it's libraries for some of the KDE apps I use... But I don't have to run KDE to run KOffice. I also think compiling koffice including kde-libs is faster than compiling openoffice I could be wrong though. I haven't timed it. Koffice definitely starts faster. But I don't think I can install it on windows. that's fine I don't use windows for anything other than games anymore anyhow.
don't all M$ products? I know everyone tries to simulate flight with them in some way at some time or another.
base is fairly new and it will mature in time. I agree though it sucks... Access is better, I had a database of my Video Game cd keys in Access, then Windows died and I couldn't open it. I would never use Access in a production environment though. But for a very small home database I thought it worked good.
with the exception of some of the people they have hired away from us like Daniel Robins.
unless your running gentoo... then your screwed and get it all... I'm liking koffice better anyway.
I've done that as well. I consider it acceptable. But I've had some people turn down .rtf when they wouldn't turn down .pdf.
Been there. I would tell them and intend to from now on that I will gladly submit to the .docs if they will first buy me a copy of windows and word as I can not afford them. Obviously do to the proprietary nature word will only work on windows and I can only make .docs in word.
(of course I know this isn't true but this kind of person isn't likely to know this, as they are already too ignorant to accept a pdf.)
they will of course say no to this. Then ask them what else you could do to meet there requirements. They will mention a library or a computer lab. Tell them you do not have enough time during those places hours of business, and ask them if they have other suggestions, in there ignorance they will have none. Re-suggest that with the availability of free readers that perhaps they would accept that format.
This probably won't work because these kind of people can't be bothered to think outside the box of there tiny little brains, and it definitely won't work if they know you own both. I would try it though. You could also try giving them one of the letters RMS has put out about this.
I agree with that. But I would rather submit pdf's than doc's. But copying text is easy with adobe acrobat. you just have to turn on text selection. It's not on by default. I can't really blame people for not wanting to deal with Open Document though, the majority of people don't even know what it is. They certainly wouldn't have a clue as to where to find a reader. Telling them to download open office (or Koffice 1.5 when it's stable) and it's their problem won't work. So I give them pdf's and if they want to edit it I'll give them an open document and tell them where to get an editor. Most of what I submit most people have no business editing anyway, like my resume, or a paper for class.
to post my correction somplace more visible "ah thank you I have yet to print something... I probably would have noticed that later tonight when I print my papers. They should have it be an obvious button like OpenOffice does. My mistake. I only installed it a few weeks ago though and haven't used it that much yet." I still don't see that I can save to .doc though at least not that I can see. not that I like saving to .doc, I only do that when that's the only way someone will take my submission. I always export or 'print' to pdf these days because if at all possible I refuse to save to .doc because I don't believe that it should be as standardized as it is. Everyone should have a pdf reader. If nothing else adobe acrobat. It's free however word costs $100+ I think. Some places seem to only accept .doc submissions though.
ah thank you I have yet to print something... I probably would have noticed that later tonight when I print my papers. They should have it be an obvious button like OpenOffice does. My mistake. I only installed it a few weeks ago though and haven't used it that much yet.
the lack of filetype's suppported. It doesn't, I think support exporting to pdf, nor does it support .doc. This is it's only real drawbacks. Otherwise I am starting to like it better than OpenOffice especially because it has the office feature I wanted. tabs so I can have multiple documents open in one window at once. Which is what I want as otherwise I almost end up with several office windows open at once and it gets so cluttered.
even better yet get a phone from verizon wireless, even if it is capable of bluetooth they will have it disabled, so they can make a buck.