Instead of modding up the comments mocking the GP about his "Jewish mosque" comment, people with mod points should mod up the comment that points out how dangerous the "church" of scientology is.
I have an M3 (slot 2) and one of the things I like about it is its real-time save capability. Basically, it works like save-states in an emulator. Do the M3 Simply or the R4DS have this function?
The XBox 360 was being sold at a loss when it was first released. It's not anymore. More efficient manufacturing processes, the fact that components come down in price as they age, etc. all factor in to bring the price down. There was an article on Slashdot a while back where it was mentioned that MS had passed the break-even point and was now making money on the 360. Also, Nintendo makes money on all of its console hardware, which is why they were the most profitable of all the console makers last generation despite coming in third in market share.
And all this stuff about hydrogen cars is garbage because if you have done research you know that hydrogen is no better than gas because of the amount of energy needed to produce it and the small mpg achievable with it.
Which is different from the energy needed to charge an electric car in what way?
I don't think you are remembering correctly, because Win2K came out at around the same time as WinME. ME was aimed at home users as a stopgap till "Whistler" brought NT to home users while 2K was supposed to be an NT upgrade for offices/networks/etc (business use, basically). I knew quite a few people who jumped from 98 to 2K though after word got out that ME was actually worse than 98 in many ways, but most of those people are fairly technologically adept. I suspect most users stuck with Win98 until XP came out unless they bought a new PC with ME or 2K installed on it.
Seriously, there was conflict for about the first 5 minutes, then the rest of the series the worst that would happen were minor disagreements or Tuvok getting annoyed with Neelix. The only time the Maquis issue even came up after the pilot was in the episode where someone discovered Tuvok's secret unfinished holodeck training program for dealing with a Maquis mutiny, and then he pointed out that it was unfinished because it stopped being a concern. The whole thing was a let down. And 7 of 9's joining the crew sucked, too. Who knew that a Borg, disconnected from the collective, would turn out to be just like a Vulcan? The whole problem stems from the cast of two dimensional characters and spirals outward from there. It was like they took all the worst parts of the first 3 seasons of TNG and made a series out of it.
He may be referring to Windows Defender, which used to be called MS Anti-Spyware (and before that it was known as Giant Anti-Spyware, because that's who MS bought out to get the software.)
While I question the truth in the GP's post as well, you should note that EPA ratings are pretty much worthless. The actual fuel economy you'll get depends largely on how you drive. I own two cars, a V6 sedan for daily driving and a V8 muscle car for weekend fun. Just driving around, I get closer to the EPA city rating in the muscle car than I do in the other one (though the daily driver gets better fuel economy overall) because I find I don't need to lean on it as hard for things like merging into traffic, starting from a full stop, etc. I don't know about "twice as far", but the numbers you have for the elantra and crossfire aren't that far apart. Given the huge power and torque difference between the two, I can see the crossfire doing a little better on gas unless it's being driven exclusively on the highway.
If a computer builder does not advertise, then knowledge of the computer builder's product does not exist among potential buyers.
That's irrelevant. That argument might have held some weight 10+ years ago, but now if I'm after a niche product (and face the facts, computers without Windows preinstalled are a niche product at the moment), I can google for a company that provides it. If a customer is too lazy to search for the product they're after, I don't see why larger manufacturers should be forced to cater to them.
Who built this computer? And how did you find this computer builder?
A local computer shop. I found out about them through friends who had purchased from them in the past, and purchased this computer because I had a good experience purchasing smaller computer-related items from them previously. I know, you think I'm crazy, saying I found out about this place without any television, radio, or magazine ads, but it happens more often than you think.
Again, they don't advertise so they don't exist? That's news to me. I guess I'll have to buy another computer, because this no-preinstalled-OS computer I'm using is just a figment of my imagination.
If your claim is true, then why don't computer builders that install *Linux run any TV ads?
They don't run TV ads, so they don't exist? Interesting argument.
Until all major auto makers start bundling high-value Chevron gas cards, tied to the car's VIN so that they can't be resold separately. Then you likely have a competition law issue.
This is where the bad analogy falls apart, because the automakers are not typically selling a lifetime supply of gas with their cars, so they don't have to pay Chevron or anyone else as part of the cost of manufacture and sale. (GM offers free gas for a year with some models, but it's not factored into the sticker price of the car.) On the other hand, these companies get a deal on OEM licenses from Microsoft for not selling computers without Windows pre-installed. They've probably done the math and figured out that the amount of money they'd make selling computers without an OS is less than the amount of money they save with their OEM deals with MS. I'm not going to blame HP, Dell, et al for following the money, and if there was that much outrage over it then the companies that do offer computers without an OS or with an alternative OS would not largely cater to a niche market.
Then don't buy from those manufacturers! I went to the local computer store and had no problem buying a machine without an OS. It was a fairly capable machine, too, and at a similar price to what I'd have paid building one myself. On top of that, there are tons of smaller mail-order companies that will do this as well. The next laptop I buy, for example, will likely come from System 76 or another company offering something similar (a laptop with decent capabilities and Linux pre-installed). There are plenty of companies out there willing to provide what you're asking. It's ridiculous to ask the government to legislate that they all do so.
basic computer + user who knows nothing about PCs = PROBLEM
Fixed your post. I've installed Linux on a few people's computers, and I have to help them out with problems far less than I do the Windows users I know. The fact is that if something goes wrong with a computer and the user is not fairly computer-literate, they're totally fucked regardless of the OS they're using.
Yeah, but it's still an OS. Saying that you can use a computer without an OS installed because you can use a Linux Live CD is kind of ridiculous. I guess you're getting around the technicality of the "installed" requirement, but you're still not getting around the "a computer is useless without an OS" part of the argument. You're really just being pedantic. The real arguments you should be discussing is "is windows the only useful OS?" and "should I be forced to pay for an OS I won't be using?"
BTW, I've used my share of Live Linux distros, and while they're not useless, they're really not practical for anything resembling regular computer use. They're great for testing hardware compatibility, fixing certain issues where the installed OS isn't able to boot, running a trusted OS+apps on a public or shared computer, etc. I wouldn't use one as my main OS without installing it to the HD first though since running everything from a CD or DVD is painfully slow, among other problems.
but according to HP, you can buy your HP machine with any operating system you want - as long as it is Windows.
Yes, and there's nothing wrong with that. There are any number of PC builders out there that will be happy to sell you a computer with no OS, or one with the OS of your choice pre-installed. Or you could build your PC yourself. If you were forced to buy your computer from HP this might be a valid argument, but you're not so this isn't. To follow your analogy, there's nothing wrong with Ford bundling the purchase of Chevron gas with the price of their cars. You can still drive a Ford to a Shell or whatever other gas station you want to go to (it's just not included in the price like the Chevron gas), or you can buy a Chevy or a Honda or any other car that doesn't have this gasoline requirement added to the price.
They killed Spock, too, but that didn't stop him from showing up in 4 more movies plus a couple of TNG episodes. They would just need to come up with a way to bring him back, which they basically did with the B4 character. Of course, Spock's return was shit icing on the shit cake that was Star Trek III, so Data is probably better off dead.
The catch here is that this is what the record labels are trying to do these days. If the musicians/artists are producing "work-for-hire", then the labels own the copyrights right away and the artists get fucked.
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Instead of modding up the comments mocking the GP about his "Jewish mosque" comment, people with mod points should mod up the comment that points out how dangerous the "church" of scientology is.
I've seen this same kind of shit happen with Windows on more than one occasion. Unless you know what you're doing, you're not advised to use Windows.
Except there's no evidence that he ever said that.
I have an M3 (slot 2) and one of the things I like about it is its real-time save capability. Basically, it works like save-states in an emulator. Do the M3 Simply or the R4DS have this function?
The XBox 360 was being sold at a loss when it was first released. It's not anymore. More efficient manufacturing processes, the fact that components come down in price as they age, etc. all factor in to bring the price down. There was an article on Slashdot a while back where it was mentioned that MS had passed the break-even point and was now making money on the 360. Also, Nintendo makes money on all of its console hardware, which is why they were the most profitable of all the console makers last generation despite coming in third in market share.
And all this stuff about hydrogen cars is garbage because if you have done research you know that hydrogen is no better than gas because of the amount of energy needed to produce it and the small mpg achievable with it.
Which is different from the energy needed to charge an electric car in what way?
I don't think you are remembering correctly, because Win2K came out at around the same time as WinME. ME was aimed at home users as a stopgap till "Whistler" brought NT to home users while 2K was supposed to be an NT upgrade for offices/networks/etc (business use, basically). I knew quite a few people who jumped from 98 to 2K though after word got out that ME was actually worse than 98 in many ways, but most of those people are fairly technologically adept. I suspect most users stuck with Win98 until XP came out unless they bought a new PC with ME or 2K installed on it.
I guess you could kill them. That might even it out.
Seriously, there was conflict for about the first 5 minutes, then the rest of the series the worst that would happen were minor disagreements or Tuvok getting annoyed with Neelix. The only time the Maquis issue even came up after the pilot was in the episode where someone discovered Tuvok's secret unfinished holodeck training program for dealing with a Maquis mutiny, and then he pointed out that it was unfinished because it stopped being a concern. The whole thing was a let down. And 7 of 9's joining the crew sucked, too. Who knew that a Borg, disconnected from the collective, would turn out to be just like a Vulcan? The whole problem stems from the cast of two dimensional characters and spirals outward from there. It was like they took all the worst parts of the first 3 seasons of TNG and made a series out of it.
He may be referring to Windows Defender, which used to be called MS Anti-Spyware (and before that it was known as Giant Anti-Spyware, because that's who MS bought out to get the software.)
While I question the truth in the GP's post as well, you should note that EPA ratings are pretty much worthless. The actual fuel economy you'll get depends largely on how you drive. I own two cars, a V6 sedan for daily driving and a V8 muscle car for weekend fun. Just driving around, I get closer to the EPA city rating in the muscle car than I do in the other one (though the daily driver gets better fuel economy overall) because I find I don't need to lean on it as hard for things like merging into traffic, starting from a full stop, etc. I don't know about "twice as far", but the numbers you have for the elantra and crossfire aren't that far apart. Given the huge power and torque difference between the two, I can see the crossfire doing a little better on gas unless it's being driven exclusively on the highway.
If a computer builder does not advertise, then knowledge of the computer builder's product does not exist among potential buyers.
That's irrelevant. That argument might have held some weight 10+ years ago, but now if I'm after a niche product (and face the facts, computers without Windows preinstalled are a niche product at the moment), I can google for a company that provides it. If a customer is too lazy to search for the product they're after, I don't see why larger manufacturers should be forced to cater to them.
Who built this computer? And how did you find this computer builder?
A local computer shop. I found out about them through friends who had purchased from them in the past, and purchased this computer because I had a good experience purchasing smaller computer-related items from them previously. I know, you think I'm crazy, saying I found out about this place without any television, radio, or magazine ads, but it happens more often than you think.
Again, they don't advertise so they don't exist? That's news to me. I guess I'll have to buy another computer, because this no-preinstalled-OS computer I'm using is just a figment of my imagination.
If your claim is true, then why don't computer builders that install *Linux run any TV ads?
They don't run TV ads, so they don't exist? Interesting argument.
Until all major auto makers start bundling high-value Chevron gas cards, tied to the car's VIN so that they can't be resold separately. Then you likely have a competition law issue.
This is where the bad analogy falls apart, because the automakers are not typically selling a lifetime supply of gas with their cars, so they don't have to pay Chevron or anyone else as part of the cost of manufacture and sale. (GM offers free gas for a year with some models, but it's not factored into the sticker price of the car.) On the other hand, these companies get a deal on OEM licenses from Microsoft for not selling computers without Windows pre-installed. They've probably done the math and figured out that the amount of money they'd make selling computers without an OS is less than the amount of money they save with their OEM deals with MS. I'm not going to blame HP, Dell, et al for following the money, and if there was that much outrage over it then the companies that do offer computers without an OS or with an alternative OS would not largely cater to a niche market.
Then don't buy from those manufacturers! I went to the local computer store and had no problem buying a machine without an OS. It was a fairly capable machine, too, and at a similar price to what I'd have paid building one myself. On top of that, there are tons of smaller mail-order companies that will do this as well. The next laptop I buy, for example, will likely come from System 76 or another company offering something similar (a laptop with decent capabilities and Linux pre-installed). There are plenty of companies out there willing to provide what you're asking. It's ridiculous to ask the government to legislate that they all do so.
basic computer + user who knows nothing about PCs = PROBLEM
Fixed your post. I've installed Linux on a few people's computers, and I have to help them out with problems far less than I do the Windows users I know. The fact is that if something goes wrong with a computer and the user is not fairly computer-literate, they're totally fucked regardless of the OS they're using.
thus forcing the consumers to buy an operating system from Microsoft or not buy the computer at all.
Or they could buy from another PC manufacturer, one that does allow you to purchase a PC without Windows. Crazy idea, I know.
Yeah, but it's still an OS. Saying that you can use a computer without an OS installed because you can use a Linux Live CD is kind of ridiculous. I guess you're getting around the technicality of the "installed" requirement, but you're still not getting around the "a computer is useless without an OS" part of the argument. You're really just being pedantic. The real arguments you should be discussing is "is windows the only useful OS?" and "should I be forced to pay for an OS I won't be using?"
BTW, I've used my share of Live Linux distros, and while they're not useless, they're really not practical for anything resembling regular computer use. They're great for testing hardware compatibility, fixing certain issues where the installed OS isn't able to boot, running a trusted OS+apps on a public or shared computer, etc. I wouldn't use one as my main OS without installing it to the HD first though since running everything from a CD or DVD is painfully slow, among other problems.
but according to HP, you can buy your HP machine with any operating system you want - as long as it is Windows.
Yes, and there's nothing wrong with that. There are any number of PC builders out there that will be happy to sell you a computer with no OS, or one with the OS of your choice pre-installed. Or you could build your PC yourself. If you were forced to buy your computer from HP this might be a valid argument, but you're not so this isn't. To follow your analogy, there's nothing wrong with Ford bundling the purchase of Chevron gas with the price of their cars. You can still drive a Ford to a Shell or whatever other gas station you want to go to (it's just not included in the price like the Chevron gas), or you can buy a Chevy or a Honda or any other car that doesn't have this gasoline requirement added to the price.
But no, Berman had to have his army surplus alien station where no one gets along.
I'd rather that than Voyager where everyone gets along and it's fucking boring.
They killed Spock, too, but that didn't stop him from showing up in 4 more movies plus a couple of TNG episodes. They would just need to come up with a way to bring him back, which they basically did with the B4 character. Of course, Spock's return was shit icing on the shit cake that was Star Trek III, so Data is probably better off dead.
It would have been great if, for the Mirror Universe episodes of Enterprise, T'Pol had a goatee.
Those are my initials! Is my score still there?
The catch here is that this is what the record labels are trying to do these days. If the musicians/artists are producing "work-for-hire", then the labels own the copyrights right away and the artists get fucked.
In my experience, contractions are usually considered one word.