I agree. Enlightenment is cool and all...but WindowMaker is such a nice "default" window manager. It almost never crashes, looks nice and crisp, and IMHO it has the best GUI preferances tool.
But for some reason I thought you COUDL use WindowMaker in RH6. I think it's an install option....but maybe I'm wrong.
I tend to agree. This bug is described in the article as though it's the end of Mac OS X... and those of use who consider ourselves the open-minded Slashdot community, have mostly reacted as though this was 1) The end of the world or 2) proof that APple sucks.
In truth, neither are true.
Apple's trying something that could turn out to be very cool. Give them a chance.
There are plenty of companies moving from UNIX to NT. But:
This was a trend 5 years ago too (if MS-Press was/is to be believed),
Linux isn't going to magically stop all NT houses to up and switch to Linux.
It takes time....and this is merely more evidance that Linux is here to stay.
Example: for every one of you who says "I just switched from UNIX to NT" there's one of me, who has seen companies port NT web-servers to Linux for stability.
GNOME and KDE already HAVE the active-desktop-esqe thing going on though....so I dont' really see the point.
You could use GNOME, w/E running it's win95 theme w/win95 widgets and you've pretty much got a win95-look-and-act-alike.
Just this week, I switched my roommate, who was a Win95 user to the core over to GNOME w/E....to him (using the configuration mentioned above) it's pretty much the same box he always used (without the apps of course).
So even if they DID port the Win32 APIs over to Linux (PLEASE NO!!!) they wouldn't need to write a window manager.....
It would be nice to have a working and fast version of IE5 though...it's so much better than NS4.6 it makes me sick.
Actually, I don't think it's naive at all. Just like anything else in life the net is only what you make it to be.
It can be either a tremendous opportunity to put YOU in control of YOUR life....or it can be a way for others to be in control of you.
If you don't like the export ban, then get around it...there are ways and you know it.
If you don't like having your email read, use PGP
If you don't want your credit card transactions monitored, then you're already in trouble because the net doesn't offer any opportunities that didn't exist for credit card criminals 5 years ago.
I guess all I'm saying is, don't just sit there and say that the net's being used to control people. The only people that let the net control them are the same ones that are already being controled by TV, Newspapers and any other news source out there.
Has anyone ever done a point-by-point feature comparison of the various word processorts available for Linux? I'm using Star Office....but with so many to choose from, I'd be interested in seeing them compete head-to-head.
Hey...speaking of chain mail... check out the Urban Legends Generator. It lets you build your own chain letters/urban legends and then email them to the ignorant masses.
Yes, it's my own page Yes, that's shameless self-promotion Yes, the ethics behind letting people generate their own chain-letters is questionable and yes, i still think it's pretty funny :-)
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"ambitious designs" is really in the eye of the beholder. Personally,I find Linux to be far more ambitious than NT. Since you're referring to "UNIX Vendors" I guess you're not really dissing Linux....but the sound of your post leads me to believe that you think NT is more ambitious than even Linux
I'll have to disagree with you.
Linux is, and aims to stay, Multi-platform (truly difficult to accomplish, and certainly highly ambitious)
On the user-interface site of things, projects like Enlightenment that allow full user-customization of the work environment aim to take "windows" to a new level...while maintaining the beauty and availability of a command line interface...another ambitious goal.
That Linux can run on a 386 is testament to the ambitious ideas of its designers as well. NT scoffs at the need to support old hardware...but to me, supporting it is ambitious and commendable.
So I guess...what it really comes down to, is what turns you on. I would say that UNIX developers are more ambitious than NT developers....just in different ways.
A good executive summary would be great...but also, some admission that in some certain cases NT might be an "ok" choice seems to go a long way when trying to woo managers into setting up Linux.
If you say "Linux is best for all things all the time" (as this article seems to say) you'll be labeled as a zealot, no matter how nicely you say it.
We need some documents that are written in plain english, are concise, and depict Linux vs. NT for a SINGLE TASK. That way, when I go to my boss and say "our new webserver should run LInux." I can show him why for WEB SERVING Linux is better. Conversely, when you go to your boss (if you have one) and say "our office fileserver shoudl run LInux" you have a document that shows why linux is better for Fileserving in non-homogenous network environment.
Is there a website out there right now that contains documents like these, in one centralized location? (or at least links to them with summaries?) I didn't think there was, so I threw something together that will hopefully evolve into what I've just described. You can upload documents (or link to them) HERE.
Eventually my goal is to have an online resource of Linux Advocacy/Information documents about WHY people should choose Linux. This resource will be searchable so that you can find the best paper to suit your needs.
If I'm wasting my time and this already exists, please let me know in a non-flame sort of way, I don't want to step on anyone's toes or anything like that.
So...the next thing we'll be reading is how a bunch of young "3l33t h4c3rs" have forgotten how to type in english and are stuck typing in weird strings of numbers and symbols that vaguely resemble english characters.
Nice article...i laughed out loud when I read the disclaimer at the end. :)
It's hard to say. On the one hand, as a programmer, I'd say "screw you" I don't want to spend MORE money to get certified.
But on the other hand, I'm providing (potentially) a product to someone that has the potential to wipe out vital data if I did it poorly.
Where do you draw the line? Personally, I think software is more like the Bridge in the NYT article, than a Book in someone's post above ("Do writers need a liscense to read a book").
However....using my argument that progs can destroy vital data, one might wonder why politicians don't have to have licenses. After all, they do more damage than my programs ever could.
I think you guys are missing the point. The comment about saving money with NT was meant (i'm guessing) to show that with NT, they could have saved over their $2,000,000 initial price tag.
Anyway, the beauty of this is that when big companies like this start using Linux, it's easier for me to convince my boss that it's a good choice for our small company.
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But for some reason I thought you COUDL use WindowMaker in RH6. I think it's an install option....but maybe I'm wrong.
and those of use who consider ourselves the open-minded Slashdot community, have mostly reacted as though this was 1) The end of the world or 2) proof that APple sucks.
In truth, neither are true.
Apple's trying something that could turn out to be very cool. Give them a chance.
This was a trend 5 years ago too (if MS-Press was/is to be believed),
Linux isn't going to magically stop all NT houses to up and switch to Linux.
It takes time....and this is merely more evidance that Linux is here to stay.
Example: for every one of you who says "I just switched from UNIX to NT" there's one of me, who has seen companies port NT web-servers to Linux for stability.
You could use GNOME, w/E running it's win95 theme w/win95 widgets and you've pretty much got a win95-look-and-act-alike.
Just this week, I switched my roommate, who was a Win95 user to the core over to GNOME w/E....to him (using the configuration mentioned above) it's pretty much the same box he always used (without the apps of course).
So even if they DID port the Win32 APIs over to Linux (PLEASE NO!!!) they wouldn't need to write a window manager.....
It would be nice to have a working and fast version of IE5 though...it's so much better than NS4.6 it makes me sick.
It can be either a tremendous opportunity to put YOU in control of YOUR life....or it can be a way for others to be in control of you.
- If you don't like the export ban, then get around it...there are ways and you know it.
- If you don't like having your email read, use PGP
- If you don't want your credit card transactions monitored, then you're already in trouble because the net doesn't offer any opportunities that didn't exist for credit card criminals 5 years ago.
I guess all I'm saying is, don't just sit there and say that the net's being used to control people. The only people that let the net control them are the same ones that are already being controled by TV, Newspapers and any other news source out there.perl -e 'print scalar reverse q(\)-:,rekcah lrep rehtona tsuJ)'
Not that i care....i just thought I'd point that out for you. :)
I went right from DOS 5 to Linux.
Problem solved
Has anyone ever done a point-by-point feature comparison of the various word processorts available for Linux? I'm using Star Office....but with so many to choose from, I'd be interested in seeing them compete head-to-head.
Those police "To Serve and Protect" T-Shirts are very nice! Why aren't there T-Shirts that cool for Linux?
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Yes, it's my own page
Yes, that's shameless self-promotion
Yes, the ethics behind letting people generate their own chain-letters is questionable
and yes, i still think it's pretty funny
:-)
What does this do to a service like Domain Surfer?
I'll have to disagree with you.
Linux is, and aims to stay, Multi-platform (truly difficult to accomplish, and certainly highly ambitious)
On the user-interface site of things, projects like Enlightenment that allow full user-customization of the work environment aim to take "windows" to a new level...while maintaining the beauty and availability of a command line interface...another ambitious goal.
That Linux can run on a 386 is testament to the ambitious ideas of its designers as well. NT scoffs at the need to support old hardware...but to me, supporting it is ambitious and commendable.
So I guess...what it really comes down to, is what turns you on. I would say that UNIX developers are more ambitious than NT developers....just in different ways.
If you say "Linux is best for all things all the time" (as this article seems to say) you'll be labeled as a zealot, no matter how nicely you say it.
We need some documents that are written in plain english, are concise, and depict Linux vs. NT for a SINGLE TASK. That way, when I go to my boss and say "our new webserver should run LInux." I can show him why for WEB SERVING Linux is better. Conversely, when you go to your boss (if you have one) and say "our office fileserver shoudl run LInux" you have a document that shows why linux is better for Fileserving in non-homogenous network environment.
Is there a website out there right now that contains documents like these, in one centralized location? (or at least links to them with summaries?) I didn't think there was, so I threw something together that will hopefully evolve into what I've just described. You can upload documents (or link to them) HERE.
Eventually my goal is to have an online resource of Linux Advocacy/Information documents about WHY people should choose Linux. This resource will be searchable so that you can find the best paper to suit your needs.
If I'm wasting my time and this already exists, please let me know in a non-flame sort of way, I don't want to step on anyone's toes or anything like that.
Thanks.
Nice article...i laughed out loud when I read the disclaimer at the end.
:)
But on the other hand, I'm providing (potentially) a product to someone that has the potential to wipe out vital data if I did it poorly.
Where do you draw the line? Personally, I think software is more like the Bridge in the NYT article, than a Book in someone's post above ("Do writers need a liscense to read a book").
However....using my argument that progs can destroy vital data, one might wonder why politicians don't have to have licenses. After all, they do more damage than my programs ever could.
How's that for a rambling reply?
Anyway, the beauty of this is that when big companies like this start using Linux, it's easier for me to convince my boss that it's a good choice for our small company.
World domination: the sooner the better.
I was just at COMDEX last week and it seemed like half the case-people there were peddling translucent Fisher-Price cases.
I for one don't like them. I think they'd make my computer look cheap (and it needs all the help it can get....piece'o'crap).
Why bother with messy contract negotiations and arbitration?! Just put your self up for sale.
blaming jocks for geeks' troubles, than
there is about blaming geeks for society's
problems.
For that matter, you just can group people
together like that. It can only lead to problems.
-Suydam