What happens to future versions of Slashdot sources?
Either way, congratulations.
Nostalgia: I remember reading Slashdot.org when about 50% of my page views were stopped in the middle while I did a traceroute to macatawa.org to see what the heck was taking so long.
If only this worked in reverse.... People like me who ingest near-lethal doses of caffeine each day could go to our nearest nucleur reactor core and be protected from the evils of coffee.
No. The point does NOT still stand. To compare business models, you need to compare two companies with the same market share and product lines. Otherwise, you're comparing apples to brazil-nuts my friend.
I'm not so sure I agree with this article. Mainly, the thought that in open-sourcing their code, companies have to accept "open attitudes" of people like Raster and JWZ. I don't claim to know the whole story (but neither should the author). I'm thinkin especially of Raster's type of situation...(and I'm not ripping on his ability as a programmer or anything). All I'm saying is, a company is going to be very turned off if the Open Source Community starts to say "look....open your code, use our programmers, but prepare to be flamed all over the net if one of us doesn't get along with our managers." Unfortunately, that's the attitude that seems pervasive in this article.
To me, it seems to be counter-productive. We hashed over the Raster vs. The Evil Manager thing for a few days...and it seemed like at least half of us though that he was wrong to go on a tirade against his manager in public.
I guess I don't think that open source code has anything to do (nor should it IMHO) with opening the internal problems 2 or 3 people might have with each other. Problems between employees and managers are between them and none of our business, no matter how open their source code is.
Maybe you don't all agree with me...but that's the way I see it.
Umm...i think you've wandered astray. You see, Slashdot is all about Microsoft bashing. Sure, we call ourselves News for Nerds....but most of us (myself included) revel in catching MS with their pants down.
Heck...I even looked up slashdot in the dictionary
Main Entry: Slashdot Pronunciation: 'slash dot Function: noun Etymology: Midwestern American English (Holland, MI) Date: 1996? 1. News for nerds, stuff that matters 2. Microsoft bashing for enlightened folk 3. To criticize cuttingly 4. to reduce sharply
I have a Red Hat 6.0 box running on a P100 w/32 Megs of RAM. It's been up since I installed 16 days ago and it's busy all day....GNOME crashes, but I haven't had to reboot because of it...so I'll blame that on GNOME.
To anyone who misses Glint....GNORpm is so much nicer...just learn it...you'll see the light and never look back....unless you're using the manual...:-)
They're not censoring. They're selectively placing news on their site. What's so wrong with that?!
THey're not supposed to self-promote. So they're taking the easy way out....just don't point to any information about your company from 3rd party sources.... I think we're all being a little too paranoid here. I'm sure once the IPO is over, they'll have slashdot back on the front page again.
It's really not all that different than if I had a homepage about Video Games and only pulled slashdot stories that dealt with games to my site. The content's there for the picking....they have every right to point to what they want and leave the rest.
I don't wholly agree with you here. Yes, users are the core problem w/virus replication. Anyone dumb enough to open an attachment in email that they weren't expecting is going to get infected eventually....but isn't the mere fact that it's so easy to WRITE a virus for Windows part of the problem too?
Did you read the filing? or any of the summaries? I'll assume you didn't....because they all say the same thing: Red Hat won't try to use their OS as their primary revenue generator. They're looking to be a portal site (dumb idea IMHO) and expand their service division (good idea IMHO). sheesh.
While I'm not planning on any long term Red Hat investments, if I had the money, I'd toss some their way.
It's possible (IMHO) that the Open Source business model WILL take off, and Red Hat will be wildly profitable. If that happens, it won't be the Open Source Fad that drives people to invest in Red Hat...it'll just be sound business practice. Who knows?...not me, that's for sure.
The article is inflamatory from the start. If that were posted on Slashdot as someone's comment, it would be immediately scored down as "Flaimbait". We can hope that the average reader will notice the tone of the article and realize the author is doing nothing more than try to stir up controversy (or at least "look cool for his friends").
It's a shame they allow people to be journalists who make "mistakes" like multiplying a company's losses by $1,000,000 (oops! sorry!) under the guise of reporting. I wish my employer made that mistake with my salary.:-)
I hope someone at that site reads Slashdot... because I'm sure the author of that article will be mercilessly picked apart.
So here's a question: Can we, the Linux community, respond to this guy without sounding like zealots? Because that's what he's trying to tempt us to do. The angrier we sound to him, the more he'll prove one of his points (that Linux is best suited for enthusiasts), and the more our comments will be disregarded.
Unfortunately this will never happen. You can't get in on an IPO of this magnitude w/out seriously huge amounts of cash (i think someone above mentioned $5,000,000 as an entry point).
So your "small investors who trade over the Web" aren't likely to get a chance to get in on the IPO.
By the time the "rest of us" get a shot at buying this stock, it'll be so sky high, there will be no way to afford it...
I was wondering if anyone knew whether these companies (RH and Caldera) are profitable right now? or are they more like Amazon, that is, expecting to sustain losses for some time before becoming profitable.
The article mentions that ISS is publically traded. Not that I'd actually BUY their stock, but I just did a symbol search on Quote.yahoo.com and didn't find any company by the name Internet Security Sytems.
I guess I'm feeling argumenative today...but what good will this study do?
If a "generation" ago, someone decided to sponsor a study of what using computers will do to people there would have been conclusions like "Excessive use of punch-cards causes people headaches." Things change so fast, that the Internet they study today will barely (if at all) resemble the internet they're studying 5 years from now....let alone an entire generation from now.
Am I the only one who thinks this is a bit of a publicity stunt?
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You can't just drop the space station though. ROI is great....but you have to keep public support high, or there will be zero funding for space exploration.
The only way to keep public support high is to treat space as The Final Frontier and to explore it with people. It's sad (I agree with you, these probes could teach us more than the space station) but a fact of life none the less. Oh well.
Is this really an AI? Aren't there a set of laws that define what is truly an AI and what is just Agent software on a par with Amazon.com's ability to pick out books for me based on my past selections?
Heck, I'll pay for it if it's worth it. Shouldn't that ALWAYS determine what software I will and will not pay for?
In my opinion, NS 4 is not worth paying for. It's slow, crashes often, and generally angers me. MSIE is not worth paying for either...it's a decent web browser, but all its extra baggage (active desktop, etc.) makes it ugly and not worth it either.
If Opera is good (and many comments about it seem pretty positive) then I'll pay for it.
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- Does BSI just dissapear now?
- Will you ever open-source AdFu?
- What happens to future versions of Slashdot sources?
Either way, congratulations.Nostalgia: I remember reading Slashdot.org when about 50% of my page views were stopped in the middle while I did a traceroute to macatawa.org to see what the heck was taking so long.
If only this worked in reverse.... People like me who ingest near-lethal doses of caffeine each day could go to our nearest nucleur reactor core and be protected from the evils of coffee.
Can Rob get in trouble for having it on his site? It's an Anon Cow, so the poster sure isn't getting in trouble.
Just wondering....thanks for posting though...it's a good read.
The next question is ARE THEY???
There's only one way to find out: The Buzz-Word Counter
No. The point does NOT still stand. To compare business models, you need to compare two companies with the same market share and product lines. Otherwise, you're comparing apples to brazil-nuts my friend.
To me, it seems to be counter-productive. We hashed over the Raster vs. The Evil Manager thing for a few days...and it seemed like at least half of us though that he was wrong to go on a tirade against his manager in public.
I guess I don't think that open source code has anything to do (nor should it IMHO) with opening the internal problems 2 or 3 people might have with each other. Problems between employees and managers are between them and none of our business, no matter how open their source code is.
Maybe you don't all agree with me...but that's the way I see it.
How many Windows NT machines rank in the top 53 of the worlds fastest machines?
Someone already has! That's great! (look up 2 comments)
Heck...I even looked up slashdot in the dictionary
Main Entry: Slashdot
Pronunciation: 'slash dot
Function: noun
Etymology: Midwestern American English (Holland, MI)
Date: 1996?
1. News for nerds, stuff that matters
2. Microsoft bashing for enlightened folk
3. To criticize cuttingly
4. to reduce sharply
They're selectively placing news on their site.
What's so wrong with that?!
THey're not supposed to self-promote. So they're
taking the easy way out....just don't point to
any information about your company from 3rd party
sources.... I think we're all being a little too
paranoid here. I'm sure once the IPO is over,
they'll have slashdot back on the front page again.
It's really not all that different than if I had a homepage about Video Games and only pulled slashdot stories that dealt with games to my site. The content's there for the picking....they have every right to point to what they want and leave the rest.
I don't wholly agree with you here. Yes, users are the core problem w/virus replication. Anyone dumb enough to open an attachment in email that they weren't expecting is going to get infected eventually....but isn't the mere fact that it's so easy to WRITE a virus for Windows part of the problem too?
how's that different from people putting millions into other ventures? THere are cases all over the stockmarket of vapourware.....
Did you read the filing? or any of the summaries? I'll assume you didn't....because they all say the same thing: Red Hat won't try to use their OS as their primary revenue generator. They're looking to be a portal site (dumb idea IMHO) and expand their service division (good idea IMHO).
sheesh.
It's possible (IMHO) that the Open Source business model WILL take off, and Red Hat will be wildly profitable. If that happens, it won't be the Open Source Fad that drives people to invest in Red Hat...it'll just be sound business practice. Who knows? ...not me, that's for sure.
It's a shame they allow people to be journalists who make "mistakes" like multiplying a company's losses by $1,000,000 (oops! sorry!) under the guise of reporting. I wish my employer made that mistake with my salary. :-)
I hope someone at that site reads Slashdot... because I'm sure the author of that article will be mercilessly picked apart.
So here's a question: Can we, the Linux community, respond to this guy without sounding like zealots? Because that's what he's trying to tempt us to do. The angrier we sound to him, the more he'll prove one of his points (that Linux is best suited for enthusiasts), and the more our comments will be disregarded.
What's next?
what do you mean by "If RedHat goes public"?
Isn't this a done deal?
Maybe I'm confused (this is highly possible).
So your "small investors who trade over the Web" aren't likely to get a chance to get in on the IPO.
By the time the "rest of us" get a shot at buying this stock, it'll be so sky high, there will be no way to afford it ...
I'll probably try anyway though :-)
I was wondering if anyone knew whether these companies (RH and Caldera) are profitable right now? or are they more like Amazon, that is, expecting to sustain losses for some time before becoming profitable.
Any ideas?
If a "generation" ago, someone decided to sponsor a study of what using computers will do to people there would have been conclusions like "Excessive use of punch-cards causes people headaches." Things change so fast, that the Internet they study today will barely (if at all) resemble the internet they're studying 5 years from now....let alone an entire generation from now.
Am I the only one who thinks this is a bit of a publicity stunt?
The only way to keep public support high is to treat space as The Final Frontier and to explore it with people. It's sad (I agree with you, these probes could teach us more than the space station) but a fact of life none the less.
Oh well.
Is this really an AI? Aren't there a set of laws that define what is truly an AI and what is just Agent software on a par with Amazon.com's ability to pick out books for me based on my past selections?
I'll pay for it if it's worth it. Shouldn't that ALWAYS determine what software I will and will not pay for?
In my opinion, NS 4 is not worth paying for. It's slow, crashes often, and generally angers me. MSIE is not worth paying for either...it's a decent web browser, but all its extra baggage (active desktop, etc.) makes it ugly and not worth it either.
If Opera is good (and many comments about it seem pretty positive) then I'll pay for it.