why would they open source their older cards ? yeah nvidia did it but they didn't -really- do it.. performance could be better on the older cards. 3dfx open sourcing their later cards is smart because well.. people will stop waiting for the older cards to gain better support and they'll buy newer ones waiting yet again for the drivers to come around to being top notch. my suggestion to those out there who want 3d.. get a 3d card that works now. i got caught in the tnt2 trap... they only kind of open sourced it.. glx development has halted for the tnt cards because they can't get straight forward information.. the matrox g200 and g400 cards are getting very good attention from this team.. they've implemented agp ( linux kernel module to achieve this ), etc. sure the tnt2 works in linux.. but not any where near as well as it should be working. again reiterating.. don't buy any 3d cards hoping that support will get better in the future.. cause well it may not, and why do that when you could buy a cheaper card that works better now.
Have you all checked out the different hosts it querys, etc ? They're so paranoid about everything that they don't even have a config file that sets up servers,.. the client querys a server ( 208.178.163.58 port 8875, napster.com ) which prints out the name of a random server and then the client takes that and connects to it. You can get all the names of the servers from that host.. Shows how they really want to keep control of it and don't want other people to even begin to start running clone servers..
i'm sure something good will come out of this though. like a opensource cvs/irc client. that other person's post about a general client for any kind of files is interesting. another person pointed out that all this is, is a uniform UI for getting files on a irc type server. imagine the share of the market someone would receive if they simply hacked a opensource ircd, and included some other features that don't break existing irc clients. new enhanced irc clients could be made to take these features into account but older ones could also join the servers. That would gain a lot more support from people then this silly one corporation with it's silly client.
It's a good thing. Hell, people will get a better player in the least. Me personally if I got interested and learned the plugin API and whatnot, after learning it I would think about writing more. Why learn it and only write one plugin when you can write multiple better ones after that ? Anything that encourages open source development is good in my book.
I would like to congratulate the fellows working on XMMS and 4front for their support. They really are doing a great thing by supporting a good open source media player. I like that they are bringing other players in to the scene with plugins for proprietry code. They just recently changed the license to allow binary only plugins and this is a good thing.. just like how you can do it with Linux kernel modules.
To the other person who said they wanted a plugin to broadcast icecast streams.. uhh that's pretty ridiculous. That is what icecast is supposed to do and I don't see any real point in that. It is gpl ( or atleast generally free ). XMMS can already play (ice|shout)cast streams well, and that's what it is, a media player!
I saw the thing about people testing bind for 'Y2K readiness' using the zone serial number.. they totally miss the point of zone serial numbers %)
Either that or they're really scamming some companys big time fixing this 'bug.'
In case people are confused about how others use dates in the serial number, it's just a little trick sys admins use so they can see when someone last updated the zone.. generally people use the YYYYMMDDR thing like it said.. the R is the number of times in the day that the zone file was updated. the only thing about doing this is that if you put '10' in R and then the next day you start at 1 again, the number will be smaller than the previous day, e.g. 1999032710 and 199903281.
I prefer the simple 'increment the number' way personally.
I have to say something about the philosophys that distributions follow. Slackware's philosophy is driven from the 'do it yourself, no bull shit' ideology. That's why I love it so much.
I saw another poster saying that 'while he doesn't have a dozen people under him to update kernels, blah blah it's still a good distribution.' This is quite true, it is a good distribution, but he doesn't need tons of people to help him out. This comes from the philosophy that people out there should not depend on him or the distribution to get them through their entire existance while using linux. You're supposed to compile new kernels yourself, etc. Why do you think you don't see slackware 'tgz' packages floating around rabidly every where like rpms ( well you do see them sometimes like on kde's site i think ) ? Because slack users know how to get by on their own knowledge. This might also be why there isn't a good way to upgrade through the install process.. because most people only need to install slack once and they can then maintain their own box. hell, my box is a slack 3.4 install and it has been glibc 2.1 since that version of the GNU C library came out. Ok well it took a bit of time to recompile everything gradually.
A word for the newbies.
the philosophy that a distribution uses is very significant to those that are picking out a distribution for the first time. It should probably be one of the most significant things actually. How do you wish to live your life in the world of linux ? you should be picky as it is your environment that you will be playing/working in for a while. Second to that should be the packages it comes with. Weigh everything out before investing your time ( notice i didn't say money ) into a distribution.
What you do is you get all the current packages on your filesystem ( your older running slackware version ) off the ftp. tar tvfz them to look to see that they're not overwriting anything important. There is one script that 'installpkg' runs after it has uncompressed and unarchived the.tar.gz. I think it's tarred in to an/install directory, I forget exactly. You might want to look at the to make sure it doesn't do anything strange. It is a regular sh shell script. then finally installpkg [name of file].
I've successfully upgraded a slack 3.1 install to 3.5 over the net from accross the country. Didn't even have to reboot. Gotta love unix. Furthermore after checking each package briefly to see if it installs any files I don't want, I didn't have to skip any packages. Please be aware though that since slack 7 is all based on glibc 2.1, if you use this method to upgrade from a libc 5 based system to a libc 6 based one ( libc is located in the 'a' disk set, see below ) it could possibly bring your box down and you may need to choose your fate with the almighty boot disk
One note though. You might not want to install the a disk set this way unless you really know what you're doing.. but then if you -really- know what you're doing you'd compile and upgrade the critical libs yourself.
Ok I have this awesome trackball from logitech, 80 bucks. It's been around for a while, I doubt there will be any applications that use the 4th button to emulate the scroll wheel like it should. Atleast any time soon. In rxvt there are some options about 4 and 5 button trackballs and I've tried it and it doesn't work. This is why I don't think something like this would come into universal use any time soon. Perhaps if they were hyped more and were affordable, durable, etc, then maybe this would become a reality. But hell, it's just a friggin gui trick, I'm not losing any sleep over it
Network Solutions and Northern Virginia e-business, Strategic-INFO developed the plate and worked with Virginia Delegate Jeannemarie Devolites to garner support for it from Virginia's General Assembly.
For all the lamers who disregard the man pages, this will make applications think that doubleclick's hosts are refusing connections. What does this mean for netscape? No banner ads from doubleclick.net. You might want to stick a port 80 directive on that line too if you want. Gotta love unix/linux.
This also reminds that.. to get the password you'r probably have to contact the game maker and not sega.. well sega might have it too. Anyhow this all presumes that the underlying OS has nothing to do with these ports.
I think a lot of people aren't realizing that the game that's being played could have a lot to do with it. Other comments have said that they've scanned dc's for ports and haven't found anything. If there are in fact ports open at all, it is probably the doing of the game. Besides, what kind operating systems open ports themselves, that's a user space operation.. well not with windows broken mentality anyway.
Don't jump to conclusions here. The info given by nmap as to what the ports are, are just looked up in/etc/services or something of the sort. Just because theres 'something' on port 12345 does not mean at all that there is netbus running on it. especially since that port is >1024. Also, the person checking this out failed to realize that you can telnet to any port, including 80 and check out whats on it. Telnet to each port and type things like 'help' or just jibberish to see what comes out of it. I would but I don't have a dc.
I've always liked the binding on your books personally. It does annoy me though when I get dog eared books though for some reason. I would suggest having hard bound books for the 400+ page books like Programming Perl, etc. Oh I got an idea. How about with the hardbound book, which would cost 20 bucks more or so, you would get a card that you would send in to you guys where you would register yourself for diffs of the new versions or something. I for one usually don't buy new editions just because I can usually find the new features online for different things. Actually not a diff but the new book on cd or something like that free of cost. Or perhaps discounts on upcoming ones? I don't know, maybe you have something like this already that I don't know about.:)
Surely you all haven't forgotten about sftp. Yes it is too included in ssh and enable by default even. The sftp client isn't too bad either. sftp, secure ftp, gives you the same interface in the client as/bin/ftp does:)
Yes it's flexible, it's great, it has tons of features, it's Mutt! It does autoencrypting, encrypting, autosigning, etc. Even better, It directly supports different pgp versions and, TADA, gpg! I run mutt 1.0pre2 (yes it is also about to be stable!) and it interfaces with GNUpg 1.0 really well. Very nice work all ye mutt developers.
Vim! No seriously, if you're comfortable with the commands and research it well there is a -ton- you can do with vim. Everything from syntax highlighting to syntax checks ( with outside apps ofcourse.. my favorite is perl -c ). If you don't like console you can always use gvim for a gtk interface or whatnot. Ok Ok I know it's not a full featured IDE but I find them too restricting and I find it hard for me to give up the traditional ways of coding and being bound to one application. Well actually I don't know how true that last statement is, if I found a really good IDE that was really flexible I wouldn't be closed minded.
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why would they open source their older cards ? yeah nvidia did it but they didn't -really- do it.. performance could be better on the older cards. 3dfx open sourcing their later cards is smart because well.. people will stop waiting for the older cards to gain better support and they'll buy newer ones waiting yet again for the drivers to come around to being top notch. my suggestion to those out there who want 3d .. get a 3d card that works now. i got caught in the tnt2 trap... they only kind of open sourced it.. glx development has halted for the tnt cards because they can't get straight forward information.. the matrox g200 and g400 cards are getting very good attention from this team.. they've implemented agp ( linux kernel module to achieve this ), etc. sure the tnt2 works in linux .. but not any where near as well as it should be working. again reiterating.. don't buy any 3d cards hoping that support will get better in the future.. cause well it may not, and why do that when you could buy a cheaper card that works better now.
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Have you all checked out the different hosts it querys, etc ? They're so paranoid about everything that they don't even have a config file that sets up servers,.. the client querys a server ( 208.178.163.58 port 8875, napster.com ) which prints out the name of a random server and then the client takes that and connects to it. You can get all the names of the servers from that host.. Shows how they really want to keep control of it and don't want other people to even begin to start running clone servers..
i'm sure something good will come out of this though. like a opensource cvs/irc client. that other person's post about a general client for any kind of files is interesting. another person pointed out that all this is, is a uniform UI for getting files on a irc type server. imagine the share of the market someone would receive if they simply hacked a opensource ircd, and included some other features that don't break existing irc clients. new enhanced irc clients could be made to take these features into account but older ones could also join the servers. That would gain a lot more support from people then this silly one corporation with it's silly client.
does the linux interface look like a bitchx/ircii rip off? well ofcourse it is but, i wonder if they're using any gpl'ed code...
It's a good thing. Hell, people will get a better player in the least. Me personally if I got interested and learned the plugin API and whatnot, after learning it I would think about writing more. Why learn it and only write one plugin when you can write multiple better ones after that ? Anything that encourages open source development is good in my book.
I would like to congratulate the fellows working on XMMS and 4front for their support. They really are doing a great thing by supporting a good open source media player. I like that they are bringing other players in to the scene with plugins for proprietry code. They just recently changed the license to allow binary only plugins and this is a good thing.. just like how you can do it with Linux kernel modules.
To the other person who said they wanted a plugin to broadcast icecast streams.. uhh that's pretty ridiculous. That is what icecast is supposed to do and I don't see any real point in that. It is gpl ( or atleast generally free ). XMMS can already play (ice|shout)cast streams well, and that's what it is, a media player!
I saw the thing about people testing bind for 'Y2K readiness' using the zone serial number.. they totally miss the point of zone serial numbers %)
Either that or they're really scamming some companys big time fixing this 'bug.'
In case people are confused about how others use dates in the serial number, it's just a little trick sys admins use so they can see when someone last updated the zone.. generally people use the YYYYMMDDR thing like it said.. the R is the number of times in the day that the zone file was updated. the only thing about doing this is that if you put '10' in R and then the next day you start at 1 again, the number will be smaller than the previous day, e.g. 1999032710 and 199903281.
I prefer the simple 'increment the number' way personally.
is there any reason /. looks like a big hotdog ?
I have to say something about the philosophys that distributions follow. Slackware's philosophy is driven from the 'do it yourself, no bull shit' ideology. That's why I love it so much.
.. irc.aye.net:6667
I saw another poster saying that 'while he doesn't have a dozen people under him to update kernels, blah blah it's still a good distribution.' This is quite true, it is a good distribution, but he doesn't need tons of people to help him out. This comes from the philosophy that people out there should not depend on him or the distribution to get them through their entire existance while using linux. You're supposed to compile new kernels yourself, etc. Why do you think you don't see slackware 'tgz' packages floating around rabidly every where like rpms ( well you do see them sometimes like on kde's site i think ) ? Because slack users know how to get by on their own knowledge. This might also be why there isn't a good way to upgrade through the install process.. because most people only need to install slack once and they can then maintain their own box. hell, my box is a slack 3.4 install and it has been glibc 2.1 since that version of the GNU C library came out. Ok well it took a bit of time to recompile everything gradually.
A word for the newbies.
the philosophy that a distribution uses is very significant to those that are picking out a distribution for the first time. It should probably be one of the most significant things actually. How do you wish to live your life in the world of linux ? you should be picky as it is your environment that you will be playing/working in for a while. Second to that should be the packages it comes with. Weigh everything out before investing your time ( notice i didn't say money ) into a distribution.
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Actually Slackware is not too hard to upgrade...
.tar.gz. I think it's tarred in to an /install directory, I forget exactly. You might want to look at the to make sure it doesn't do anything strange. It is a regular sh shell script. then finally installpkg [name of file].
What you do is you get all the current packages on your filesystem ( your older running slackware version ) off the ftp. tar tvfz them to look to see that they're not overwriting anything important. There is one script that 'installpkg' runs after it has uncompressed and unarchived the
I've successfully upgraded a slack 3.1 install to 3.5 over the net from accross the country. Didn't even have to reboot. Gotta love unix. Furthermore after checking each package briefly to see if it installs any files I don't want, I didn't have to skip any packages. Please be aware though that since slack 7 is all based on glibc 2.1, if you use this method to upgrade from a libc 5 based system to a libc 6 based one ( libc is located in the 'a' disk set, see below ) it could possibly bring your box down and you may need to choose your fate with the almighty boot disk
One note though. You might not want to install the a disk set this way unless you really know what you're doing.. but then if you -really- know what you're doing you'd compile and upgrade the critical libs yourself.
. Hope this sheds some light
Ok I have this awesome trackball from logitech, 80 bucks. It's been around for a while, I doubt there will be any applications that use the 4th button to emulate the scroll wheel like it should. Atleast any time soon. In rxvt there are some options about 4 and 5 button trackballs and I've tried it and it doesn't work. This is why I don't think something like this would come into universal use any time soon. Perhaps if they were hyped more and were affordable, durable, etc, then maybe this would become a reality. But hell, it's just a friggin gui trick, I'm not losing any sleep over it
netsol did actually put them up to it:
Network Solutions and Northern Virginia e-business, Strategic-INFO developed the plate and worked with Virginia Delegate Jeannemarie Devolites to garner support for it from Virginia's General Assembly.
For all the lamers who disregard the man pages, this will make applications think that doubleclick's hosts are refusing connections. What does this mean for netscape? No banner ads from doubleclick.net. You might want to stick a port 80 directive on that line too if you want. Gotta love unix/linux.
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/sbin/ipchains -A output -p TCP -d 208.211.225.0/24 -j REJECT
enough said.
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guess I'll be statically linking licq and compiling kdelibs with qt 1.44 so i can use kmysql. ( not a kde person )
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This also reminds that.. to get the password you'r probably have to contact the game maker and not sega.. well sega might have it too. Anyhow this all presumes that the underlying OS has nothing to do with these ports.
I think a lot of people aren't realizing that the game that's being played could have a lot to do with it. Other comments have said that they've scanned dc's for ports and haven't found anything. If there are in fact ports open at all, it is probably the doing of the game. Besides, what kind operating systems open ports themselves, that's a user space operation .. well not with windows broken mentality anyway.
Don't jump to conclusions here. The info given by nmap as to what the ports are, are just looked up in /etc/services or something of the sort. Just because theres 'something' on port 12345 does not mean at all that there is netbus running on it. especially since that port is >1024. Also, the person checking this out failed to realize that you can telnet to any port, including 80 and check out whats on it. Telnet to each port and type things like 'help' or just jibberish to see what comes out of it. I would but I don't have a dc.
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I've always liked the binding on your books personally. It does annoy me though when I get dog eared books though for some reason. I would suggest having hard bound books for the 400+ page books like Programming Perl, etc. Oh I got an idea. How about with the hardbound book, which would cost 20 bucks more or so, you would get a card that you would send in to you guys where you would register yourself for diffs of the new versions or something. I for one usually don't buy new editions just because I can usually find the new features online for different things. Actually not a diff but the new book on cd or something like that free of cost. Or perhaps discounts on upcoming ones? I don't know, maybe you have something like this already that I don't know about. :)
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Surely you all haven't forgotten about sftp. Yes it is too included in ssh and enable by default even. The sftp client isn't too bad either. sftp, secure ftp, gives you the same interface in the client as /bin/ftp does :)
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Mutt!
Yes it's flexible, it's great, it has tons of features, it's Mutt! It does autoencrypting, encrypting, autosigning, etc. Even better, It directly supports different pgp versions and, TADA, gpg! I run mutt 1.0pre2 (yes it is also about to be stable!) and it interfaces with GNUpg 1.0 really well. Very nice work all ye mutt developers.
Vim! No seriously, if you're comfortable with the commands and research it well there is a -ton- you can do with vim. Everything from syntax highlighting to syntax checks ( with outside apps ofcourse .. my favorite is perl -c ). If you don't like console you can always use gvim for a gtk interface or whatnot. Ok Ok I know it's not a full featured IDE but I find them too restricting and I find it hard for me to give up the traditional ways of coding and being bound to one application. Well actually I don't know how true that last statement is, if I found a really good IDE that was really flexible I wouldn't be closed minded.
Did you read the article? It says it does in fact display song titles.