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cpt kangarooski writes "Wired is reporting that the state of Virginia plans to issue license plates bearing the motto "Internet C@pital." I suspect Network Solutions put them up to it. " Really funny article. Everyone knows that Michigan is the real c@pital anyway.

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  1. Sounds like a good poll by Eimi+Metamorphoumai · · Score: 3
    What's the real internet c@pital?

    • Virginia
    • (various other places)
    • There is no capital, it's the Internet
    • J@r-j@r must die
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    1. Re:Sounds like a good poll by boojumsnark · · Score: 1

      I vote for "Hemos sucks!"

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  2. Virginia? by BobandMax · · Score: 1

    Since the first packets were sent from California to... well, some other place, the answer is obvious and not even worth putting on a license plate. Insecure displays like that are for people that know they're wrong.

    "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."

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  3. Yeah, There's an RFC About It by ReadParse · · Score: 2

    Here's an excerpt:

    ----------BEGINNING OF EXCERPT-----------------
    Network Working Group
    Request for Comments: 8888
    Category: Fake Standards Track
    A. Gore
    UVA/LCS
    September 1999

    The Commonwealth of Virginia as Internet Capital

    Status of this Memo

    This document specifies a Fake Internet standards track protocol for the
    Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for
    improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the "Internet
    Official Protocol Standards" (STD 1) for the standardization state
    and status of this protocol. Distribution of this memo is unlimited.

    Abstract

    The Commonwealth of Virginia is a state of rich heritage and extraordinary
    natural beauty. Its attractions are as broad and diverse as its geography
    and as abundant as its history. Stretching from the Atlantic Ocean to the Blue
    Ridge and Allegheny mountains, Virginia is a mixture of exciting cities,
    historic homes and towns, plentiful resources, and a wealth of recreational
    activities.

    It is therefore the purpose of this RFC to recommend that the Commonwealth
    of Virginia be known for evermore as the Internet Capital of the World.

    Table of Contents

    1 Introduction...................................... .......7
    1.1 Purpose ..............................................7

    ----------END OF EXCERPT-----------------

  4. damn, that *is* an ugly website.... by delmoi · · Score: 1

    I didn't think it was posible even here in Iowa we have a decent website...
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  5. Re:Virginia ... *sigh* by TheGeek · · Score: 1
    You mean AOL isn't the internet???!

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  6. Re:Actually by TheGeek · · Score: 1
    I don't think virginia should issue this plate though Besides being stupid it defeats the view of the internet as a collection of computers with no true centralized point.

    I think they should, because if it's the Internet C@pital, some psycho nutbar like Saddam "The Internet is the great Satan" Hussein will blow the hell out of it trying to shut it down.

    POOF! No Virginia. POOF! No Iraq.

    TheGeek
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  7. Re:Northern Virginia - not Internet Playland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Interesting how you seem to equate the geekiness of a populace to the corresponding regions influence in an industry. Also completely irrelevant. The truth is, the greatest growth of any industry comes upon its adoption by the masses, not hobbyists, early adopters, or "geeks".
    Corporations in Northern Virginia have done an excellent job in taking the broad view and determining how technology can help us, as opposed to "hey, I can make this really cool thing that no one can use easily". And in my opinion, the more powerful technology is that which hides its internal complexity. 'Nuff said.

  8. Ego, SuperEgo, by Wah · · Score: 1

    and id are there. Yup, that's right, Quake was born in one of the most stable states in the union. Epic too, right? (I'm from Richardson like the above, but now I live in Colorado, mountains and DSL keep life interesting.)

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  9. Re:Stupid specialty license plates. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Virginia was the state that started the "... is for lovers." Every state had one. Michigan is for lovers. Well, what else can you do there in the middle of winter? Get lost in the snow banks?

    In protest, I put on my car "Vagina is for lovers." Could 'ave sold a million.

    So, if I move to Vrginny, can I have my own special plate. Just image the picture!

  10. Paramount's Great America: center of the 'Net by ikluft · · Score: 1
    Actually, Paramount's Great America theme park in Santa Clara, California is the real center of the Internet (tm).:-) It's located right smack in the middle between the Cisco, 3com and Bay/Nortel.

    Or, alternatively, for those looking for a real "capitol", the PacBell NAP (part of MAE West) is coincidentally on the same plot of land in downtown San Jose where the first capitol of California was 150 years ago. (Next time you're in SJ, look for the ring of palm trees around the historical marker between the Fairmont Hotel and Fairmont Office complex.)

    Anyway, with the distributed nature of the Net, it's inevitable that lots of places will try to make their own criteria where they're the most important place on the Net. They're welcome to do so because, in their hype process, they'll buy more communications gear from Silicon Valley companies. (And that's good for my stock options. :-)

    I personally think that the proportion of net.geeks in the population is the criteria that most people miss when they try to claim they've imitated Silicon Valley. It's taken all of this century to build up Silicon Valley to what it is. The technoculture here is just plain different.

  11. Re:Then who is home of the l33t? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Big deal. Tell us what you have which is real.

  12. Re:definition of capital by pb · · Score: 1

    heh. Leave it to the internet to have a high "net worth".

    Anyhow, from definition 2, "I" would be the capital of "internet". :)

    (and, therefore, TI would be the capitals of "the internet". Texas Instruments? What?)

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  13. Internet C@pital??? by RayChuang · · Score: 1

    I think the idea that Virginia is the "Internet Capital" is way biased by the fact that there's this company called America Online that is based in Vienna, VA--by far the largest user base of Internet users from a single ISP on the 'Net.

    There's only one thing though: AOL wouldn't have made it big if it weren't for companies based in Silicon Valley called 3Com, Cisco Systems and Netscape. Remember, Cisco provides the vast majority of the router hardware for Internet connections, and without Netscape, the Internet revolution would have taken a big longer to get going.

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    1. Re:Internet C@pital??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      by far the largest user base of Internet users from a single ISP on the 'Net

      That makes them the slums, not the capital.

  14. Re:Is Al Gore from Virginia? by Hiro_Protaganist · · Score: 1

    Gore is from Tennessee. Virgina has their own set of luser politicos.

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  15. Re:Virginia ... *sigh* by Sloppy · · Score: 1

    I enjoy Gore's proclamations as much as anyone, but let's face it: He is but a pale shadow of Quayle, and will never be able to fill the true genious' shoes.


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  16. Re:Heh by Suydam · · Score: 1
    G.R.?
    Holland?

    You're BOTH missing it. Kalamazoo is OBVIOUSLY the capital of the Internet... at least we agree Michigan is the home of the capital of the internet :)

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  17. Re:"Virginia is for Losers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Don't you mean "Virginia is for Lusers"? :)

  18. Re:Internet C@pital? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nope, why do you think Virginia qualifies for educational assistance from christian Children's Fund.

  19. damn straight by dangerboy · · Score: 1

    and that's the only reason i'm stuck down here, too. =P

  20. Re:From meaningfull to stupid.. by .pentai. · · Score: 1

    Now now, we all know how meaningful "Internet C@pital" is, but must you really call "Live Free or Die" stupid...I mean really now, I resent that being a New Hampshire resident...

    (note: sarcasm intended but not evident...I'm too tired to be funny)

  21. Sillicon Valley by IntlHarvester · · Score: 1


    A couple years ago I saw a map showing the 'density' of installed Internet bandwidth by location. At that time, the SF Bay Area was massively more dense than any other part of the world.

    While things probably have leveled out today, where the bandwidth is installed is probably more interesting than the topographical center or where the traffic is going through.

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  22. Re:Butt.....? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No no, the birthplace of the internet is Virginia. Nine months prior to it's birth, Al Gore and Bill Gates made sweet, sweet love. I'm not sure who's the father, though.

  23. Jersey by RasputinAXP · · Score: 1

    Actually, Jersey is the Garden State. I don't like admitting it, either, but it's really a green, gardeny place. Ever been to Sussex County (actually, Suss-hicks cow-nty)? It's all green around there. And to the moron who said "what exit are you from?" The Garden State and the Turnpike only run from New York City to (respectively) Cape May and Delaware. There's whole areas inaccessible to either. My parents live over an hour away from the Turnpike, and they're still in New Jersey! SO to you, I say: Bite me.
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  24. Re:Then leave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    So maybe you elitist northern snobs should succeed from the commonwealth ...

    Umm, is it just my elitist northern bias, or is the word you're thinking of secede?!

  25. But.....? by Fortissimo · · Score: 3

    I'm confused. I thought Al Gore was the capital.

    -F

    1. Re:But.....? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      now THAT busted me up :) hehehhe.

    2. Re:But.....? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah, well I invented Al Gore and the state of Virginia. Will wonders never cease.

    3. Re:But.....? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From what I infer it's this d00d named Virgnia. He lives in virgania or something :D

      Our vice-president only helped out on the internet. He wrote some Al-Gore-rythmm or something.

    4. Re:But.....? by Uart · · Score: 1

      was that before or after he was part of the team that developed Internet Filtering Software???

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    5. Re:But.....? by MikeA · · Score: 2

      No no no! Al Gore, while in Virginia invented the Internet. Therefor Virginia is the birth place and true home of the Internet. Get your facts strait. P.S. Gore was working on his Open Source web site at the time.

    6. Re:But.....? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait, you guys didn't hear he just proclaimed himself Jesus and that he invented the universe.

    7. Re:But.....? by fat_mike · · Score: 1

      Man, I needed that. These last two comments busted me up. Hi, I'm Al Gore. You know that little thing that hangs down in the back of your throat? That's right. I invented it.

  26. Re:Actually by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ... but the traffic is lousy (2nd only to LA! woohoo!)

    Number two my ass! You must have missed the article in the Washington Post this spring: We surpassed LA in traffic congestion last year! Whoo hooo! Maybe "Tr@ffic C@pit@l" should go on our plates...

  27. Virginia ... *sigh* by |DaBuzz| · · Score: 2

    It was bad enough that we're the home of AOL ... now this.

    We need Al Gore to proclaim something outrageous again to divert attention ... quick, someone tell him he pioneer DNA cloning!

    1. Re:Virginia ... *sigh* by Uart · · Score: 1

      Actually Al was created via cloning. But, well, you know how when you make a copy of a copy, it doesn't come out exactly the same? Well, Gore was a copy of a copy of a copy of the original, and he came out a bit dull :-(

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    2. Re:Virginia ... *sigh* by fart_face · · Score: 1
      Contrary to hyped-up opinion, Al Gore never claimed to have invented the internet. What he actually said was that he was instrumental in getting the laws passed in congress that made the internet available to the public. At no point did he *ever* claim to have 'invented' the internet.

      The notion that he claimed to have invented the internet was developed by opposition pundits in an attempt to portray him as a liar, with delusions of grandeur.

      Why am posting this? Because you all sound stupid when you're making fun of Gore for saying that, when in reality you've been duped by knee-jerk, right-wing Clinton haters...

      I know Slashdotters are smarter than that.

  28. What about CNET? by Luke+B.+Bishop · · Score: 1

    Just wanted to point out that Canada is overall more wired than the US. And we dont have any "internet decency" censorship laws either. So I vote Canada. I'm typing this on DSL right now from a rather small little place that SHOULDNT have DSL at all, but DOES.

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  29. Heh by witz · · Score: 1

    Just being down the road from Slashdot, in Holland, Michigan, I'd have to agree :)

    1. Re:Heh by esteil · · Score: 1

      You can plug kistler, but you know 3rd floor kirkpatrick rules GVSU. And /. is the real c@pital. (lame attempt to stay on topic, but i don't think it worked.)

    2. Re:Heh by Cacophony · · Score: 2

      I'll be up in the GR area in a few hours to visit some friends at Calvin. Yes! Michigan! -- The Internet C@pitol! Maybe on my way up I'll pull over and fix the motto on the Welcome to Michigan Sign.

      -Al-

      P.S. If anyone is driving into Michigan taking I-94 and you see someone hanging upside down by there pant leg from the Welcome sign that goes over the road. PLEASE HELP ME!

    3. Re:Heh by niteq · · Score: 1

      topic? huh? hehe..

      3rd floor kirkpatrick? hmmm...i know one person on second floor and from what i hear you guys have some funky rules about playing your music too loud. it`s not as restricted in our solid oak and concrete building here eh :)

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    4. Re:Heh by niteq · · Score: 1

      are you still on campus? email me, we could get together

      __niteq__

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    5. Re:Heh by witz · · Score: 1

      I live in Kalamazoo, work in Holland (at Donnelly Corporation), and play in Grand Rapids. :)

    6. Re:Heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just to join the Great my part of MI is better debate going on I'd have to bet there's more packets switched here in Ann Arbor than Grand Rapids, Holland(although I'm sure Slashdot alone gives me a run), and Kalamazoo together:)

      O.K. Next?

    7. Re:Heh by niteq · · Score: 1

      Nope. got that wrong...Allendale :P GVSU CS owns michigan as far as i am concerned...oh yeah if any gvsu students read this other than me i just *have* to plug kistler house...cuz it rocks.

      rgdx

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    8. Re:Heh by _Dogma · · Score: 1

      Well... I will say that Michigan is the Internet C@pitol, when I get better than a 26K connection in Grandville.

      I keep on badgering ATT@HOME to get service out here but noooooooo.... They do not feel like upgrading this town.

    9. Re:Heh by Smokin+Goat+McGruff · · Score: 1

      Duuuuuuude! I lived in Kistler last year!

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    10. Re:Heh by Smokin+Goat+McGruff · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm over in Grand Rapids. The internet is everywhere over here. Did you know they have the internet on computers nowadays?!

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  30. Re:Then leave by |DaBuzz| · · Score: 1

    Ahh yes, when all else fails ... attack grammar or spelling. Bravo.

  31. michigan? virginia? by dAzED1 · · Score: 1

    Puleeeeze... none of the mips are in either place. california is it for sure

    1. Re:michigan? virginia? by Surak · · Score: 1

      Well, /. is in Michigan, although I'd think that'd qualify it to be Linux capital...(well, outside of Helsinki, anyways. :)

      Seriously, though I think VA would qualify because thats where the Internet was born...(the Pentagon is, afterall, in Arlington.)



    2. Re:michigan? virginia? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BBN is in Cambridge, MA. The DOD (DARPA) just wrote the checks.

    3. Re:michigan? virginia? by chown · · Score: 1

      Well, having been born in Michigan, lived in Northern Virginia for 12 years, and now I live in Silicon Valley, and I like California a lot better, so I'm gonna have to go with California :)

    4. Re:michigan? virginia? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      .....more precisely, san jose,ess-say!!!

  32. What is a CatPital? by toast0 · · Score: 0

    sounds like a sextoy for cats?

  33. Re:Huh? by SideshowBob · · Score: 1

    I'm gonna have to disagree that the ARPANet and Internet were the same thing. One may be a descendent of the other, but thats as far as I would take it.

    And none of this supports the idea of placing the 'capital of the Internet' in Virginia.

  34. umm...that doesn't expand well. by dangermouse · · Score: 2

    What the hell's a "catpital"?

    1. Re:umm...that doesn't expand well. by Hershmire · · Score: 1

      Catpital is what you find on your carpet if you don't clean your cat's litter box for awhile...

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  35. Re:MAE East by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MAE East is most definitely in Tyson's Corner, a mere stone's throw from the giant mall. While there are a lot of companies based in Reston, you'll find that there are a *whole* bunch in a highly dense, contiguous area in Tyson's. They essentially center on the MAE East facilities.

  36. Re:Is Al Gore from Virginia? by Tekhir · · Score: 1

    Wipe out VA and you'll be typing ip addresses to get to your favorite websites.

    There is a little known government law which rquires contractors and agencies to have offices to be within so many miles of the DC. The result a lot of things are based in Maryland and Virginia which into turn makes it one of the worst places for traffic.

  37. "Virginia is for Losers" by kuro5hin · · Score: 2

    Anyone ever seen the "Virginia is for Lovers" stickers? Heh.

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    1. Re:"Virginia is for Losers" by kuro5hin · · Score: 1

      Well, there's already a "Virginia is for Losers" parody sticker, so if we're to keep up with this "Internet Catpital" thing, then you're right, it should be "Virginia is for Lusers." --A proud DC resident.

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    2. Re:"Virginia is for Losers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DC is a dirty place. Make your city proud and clean up that embarrassment!

    3. Re:"Virginia is for Losers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Identity is for lusers. Judge ideas on merit or don't waste your time on reading or thinking.

    4. Re:"Virginia is for Losers" by kuro5hin · · Score: 1
      You obviously don't live here. Mabye a lot of the government here is dirty, but the city as a whole is a beautiful place to live.

      Good god, what am I doing? Replying to an AC troll? How low have I sunk??

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    5. Re:"Virginia is for Losers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I live in Fairfax (Fairfax Station to be exact).
      I spend a lot of time in DC as a result.
      Maybe you just live in the yuppie sections.
      Or perhaps you only pass by the places the city
      has to keep clean in order to keep tourist
      dollars pouring in.

      An "AC troll," eh? Were you not the one trolling to begin with?

  38. Most wired town by Roofus · · Score: 1

    They also claim that blacksburg, VA is the most wired town in the US. I believe that VA Tech is located there, strangely enough.


    1. Re:Most wired town by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      blacksburg, VA is the most wired town in the US

      I was there last night (Thursday, September 24), and I didn't see anyone using the Internet. They couldn't be, because they were all outside or in the bars drunk. It was my first trip to Blacksburg, and I thought it would be a sleepy little town. I didn't expect a place where the vast majority of 18-24 year-olds appear to be alcoholics. How many people surf drunk anyway? Oh nevermind.

    2. Re:Most wired town by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It used to be. Back before the Internet was big.

      Do they still have those funky digital phones with the serial port on them? I got a static IP and ran a web site of that thing!

      I hear they have ethernet all over the place now. Even fiber optic lines to each dorm at VT.



    3. Re:Most wired town by CaptainDrewle · · Score: 1

      All the dorms at Virginia Tech have ethernet and even most apartment complexes in the area have *ethernet*.

    4. Re:Most wired town by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      go there for the Tech - Clemson game? we kicked their ass! yeah we like the alochol.. not as much as UVA though.

    5. Re:Most wired town by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually, I've heard that Austin, TX has the most hosts per capita of any city.

  39. It's a M$ Plot by grahamkg · · Score: 2

    Hear me out on this one.

    Oct. 1999: VA issues internet capital plates.
    Jan. 2000: M$ wins contract w/ VA DMV thru y2k glitch.
    Mar. 2000: VA allows 12 character ICOW plates; think "IP address".
    Apr. 2000: M$ turns VA autos into "internet appliances" running WinCE.
    Jun. 2000: VA traffic problems alleviated, M$ cars no longer run.


    Graham

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    1. Re:It's a M$ Plot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, MS plates should be 6~1.3

  40. Virgini@ by The_Grim_Reaper · · Score: 1

    Absolutely. As we all know, Network Solutions is the Emperor of the Internet.

  41. Actually by aheitner · · Score: 2

    The real capital of the Internet is not in the backwoods commonwealth of Virginia.

    Everyone knows that a disproportionate chunk of the Internet is centered in the Independent Privateer Republic of Fairfax (made up of Fairfax and Arlington counties and the city of Alexandria).

    We have nothing to do with the rest of the state. We don't get along with them particularly well either.

    My house is 1/2 mile from the UUNet building in Tysons to the north and 1/2 mile from the other UUNet building to the south (on 50). Novell is with AOL out in Dulles (AOL used to be near me in Vienna). In Tysons is Sprint, MCI, TCI, AT&T, Unisys, and just about everyone else.

    It's a great place to live, much better than Pittsburgh (CMU should up and move) ... but the traffic is lousy (2nd only to LA! woohoo!)

    1. Re:Actually by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      get a life, TJ freak! no one cares about computers..

    2. Re:Actually by Crakor · · Score: 1

      Agreed In virginia, really only arlington and fairfax hold the large number of technology and internet based companies (myself living only 10 minutes from PSInet and 15 from UUnet in fairfax)

      I don't think virginia should issue this plate though Besides being stupid it defeats the view of the internet as a collection of computers with no true centralized point

    3. Re:Actually by vampdsy · · Score: 1
      CMU is up and moving. Well, the graduates are.

      As for NetSol -- So what happens when their competition overwhelms them with competence? Will the license plates then read, "The state formerly known as the Internet C@pital"?

      (Former Pissburgher now on the left coast)

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  42. Re:I'm a virginian, and *cough* we, uhm.. by MrRoboto · · Score: 1
    All in all, it's a very colorful collection of goons we've got down here in the good ol' boy state.

    Two comments:
    1) If you don't want to grow up to be a goon, VCU might not be your best bet. Try VT or (gag) UVa.
    2) I thought VA was the good ol' boy state too, until I moved to NC, which has a considerably higher good ol' boy factor. Then I saw SC, and that took the cake. I hope I never have to go to Georgia.

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  43. internetc@pital.com by Nachtfellen · · Score: 1

    Sounds like a good idea for e-mail address...Too bad they already registered pital.com, perhaps I will go for internetc@pital.net or internetc@pital.org.
    Maybe then everyone will want to be my friend...

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  44. Wow. A new trend. by NiTRiX · · Score: 1

    Oh goody goody!!
    Does this mean everyone in Washington, D.C. will get funky new plates that say, "Bull-shitters Capitol" and California will get the "Plastic Surgery Capitol"?!?! What should Rhode Island have??

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    1. Re:Wow. A new trend. by fat_mike · · Score: 1

      Hey, that's nothin'. We now have Interstate Mark McGwire here in St. Louis. Just because he hit seventy homeruns (shakes head). And poor Joltin Joe had to wait until he was on his deathbed before those bastards in New York would give him his highway (That's right New York, you heard me). Thank god we also have a highway 67 in case he only hits that many this hear.

      Our motto here in Missoura is "The Show-Me" state. Show you what? I have no freaking idea. The money? My bunghole? Well okay. They should have called us:

      Missouri "Hey, we've got an extremely large, metal, half of a McDonald's sign standing next to the dirtiest river in North America and you don't" state.

  45. ...and Apple by SideshowBob · · Score: 1

    The AOL 1.x software was based on AppleLink, the BBS that Apple operated as a developer resource for 3rd party Mac developers (headers, devtools, developer tech support, preleases of MacOS). Its now long defunct, but longtime Mac developers will wince at the memory of AppleLink.

    http://hypermall.com/History/ah22.html#AppleLink

  46. This is no mere coincidence... by tklancer · · Score: 1

    I find it less than surprising that less than 3 months after I moved to Fairfax, VA, the state (er, Commonwealth) declared themselves the Internet Capital...

    I should try moving to West Virginia as a joke and see if it helps them at all :)

    Side note : You know, I'd be much happier with this if I could get a .net or a .org

  47. Re:Virginia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wait, wait, wait...

    AOL, NSI, UUNet, *and* PSInet all in one small area?

    Tempting. What's the LatLong coordinates again?

    Seriously, though: does any of this matters? In order for this to go through it has to come from lawmakers, and we know how they fsck things up...

  48. Re:MAE East by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    8300 Boone Blvd.

  49. Re:Then leave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not even the wrong spelling, it's the wrong word entirely. And many of us in nova would be perfectly happy seceding from the rest of Virginia so that we won't have them living off of our tax dollars. Hell, maybe we can get Montgomery county to come along with us.

  50. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry, NCP was an ARPANET thing. The first routed IP packet defined the start of the Internet.

  51. Re:figures.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If we just declared the place "Virginia, home of both NSI and AOL", they probably wouldn't even know we were poking fun at them.

  52. Re:New Jersey Motto: Which Exit Are You From? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Must be one of those "states" smaller than western states' area codes. :-)

  53. Re:Internet C@pital? by DHartung · · Score: 1

    Clearly both are derived from the root /cap/ meaning, of course, "head" (and usage of one influenced the other). Separate but related etymologies.

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  54. Methinks Texas should get ahold of the title... by daVinci1980 · · Score: 2

    Why?

    For one thing, we are the telcom capital of the world... Okay, so maybe its not the internet now, but you wait... All these companies will be/are shifting their business towards internet switches, etc..

    PS: How many companies are here, you ask? Just in a teeny tiny little area here in Richardson (north of Dallas), we have over 600 different telcom companies. That's not counting the companies in other parts of Richardson or anywhere else in or around Dallas.. (Its about a 2mi * 5mi range called the Telcom corridor)

    Ahhhh well... Perhaps in a few years we'll get recognition. :(


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  55. Re:I'm a virginian, and *cough* we, uhm.. by smutt · · Score: 1

    Eventhough I went to JMU and recently graduated you shouldn't bust on VCU. It's a very good liberal arts schools, and its art program is one
    of the best in the world. Its medical school MCV
    is also very good.
    People put down VCU all the time because it's located in downtown Richmond. They're just scared
    of going to one of the only schools in Virgina
    where white people don't make up over 50% of the
    population.

    It all depends what you're looking for in the end.
    And VCU is the most diverse school in Virginia.

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  56. definition of capital by Mad+Hatter · · Score: 1
    From the Webster's site:
    1 a (1) : a stock of accumulated goods especially at a specified time and in contrast to income received during a specified period; also : the value of these accumulated goods (2) : accumulated goods devoted to the production of other goods (3): accumulated possessions calculated to bring in income b (1) : net worth (2) : CAPITAL STOCK c : persons holding capital d : ADVANTAGE, GAIN
    (make capital of the situation)
    2 [capital] a : a capital letter; especially : an initial capital letter b : a letter belonging to a style of alphabet modeled on the style customarily used in inscriptions
    3 [capital] a : a city serving as a seat of government b : a city preeminent in some special activity (the fashion capital)

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  57. Huh? by SideshowBob · · Score: 1

    Huh?

    I thought the first TCP/IP transmission happened between UCLA and Stanford, thus defining the 'birth' of the Internet:

    http://www.sjmercury.com/svtech/columns/modemdri ver/docs/dp090999.htm

    That firmly places the 'birthplace' of the Internet in California...

    1. Re:Huh? by Tim+Moore · · Score: 1

      The Internet existed before TCP/IP, tho.

    2. Re:Huh? by Uart · · Score: 1

      I thought it was UCLA and UCB, but, hey, I wasn't there, so i don't really know. Yes the internnet existed before tcp/ip, way back when there was only one computer connected to it and it was based completely in UCLA.

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  58. Stupid specialty license plates. by thal · · Score: 3

    I live in Pennsylvania and there are so many damned specialized license plates that it's really starting to get annoying. For example, if you donate money to some "save the animals!" thing, you get a license plate with an owl on it. There are several variations of that theme. Then there's another one for D.A.R.E., one for every public university, and various military ones (I suppose I shouldn't whine too much about those). And there are probably others I don't know about.

    The link from the Wired story that has the actual picture of the plate says that that "Virginia offers more than 150 specialized plates...". 150!?!? That's ridiculous! Isn't the primary point of license plates to identify the car for legal purposes? How is a Virginia cop supposed to recognize 150 different license plates so he knows that one or another isn't a fake? What do you say when you see a hit-and-run or something?

    cop: Did you see the license plate?
    you: Yeah. It was 32DFJ-23.
    cop: What state?
    you: Uh, I dunno. It had a picture of a rabbit, I think. Or maybe it was a Klansman. All I know is that he had a carrot or a flaming cross.
    cop: uh-huh.

    Now I'm not really suggesting that these types of plates are going to enable people to remain anonymous from crimes (no security through obscurity!), but I'm just "nostalgic" (imagine that at 19 years old) for the days when Virginia's license plate was Virginia's license plate and they all looked the same. Do you have to pay to get a special "internet" license plate (probably)? It sounds like a stupid scheme to get more money from the super-consumers that the internet has contributed to. If you really need to express your personality to people behind you in traffic, just get a bumper sticker. It just seems really lame to try to pigeonhole your personality through some government-created license plate.

    1. Re:Stupid specialty license plates. by chown · · Score: 1

      Well, specialized License Plates in Virginia are comparitively cheap too I beleive (that's what I was always told when I lived there, they're like $50/year I think). Which I'm sure doesn't help any. BUT - when I was living in Virginia I actually did pay for a specialized one, and I NEVER GOT IT! They sent me the plain old boring blue-on-white one. And they never gave me my money back or responded to any of the voice mails or letters I sent them. So down with Virginia and it's stupid personalized license plates!

    2. Re:Stupid specialty license plates. by mph · · Score: 1
      I live in Pennsylvania and there are so many damned specialized license plates that it's really starting to get annoying. For example, if you donate money to some "save the animals!" thing, you get a license plate with an owl on it. There are several variations of that theme. Then there's another one for D.A.R.E., one for every public university, and various military ones (I suppose I shouldn't whine too much about those). And there are probably others I don't know about.

      The worst of which, from the standpoint of recognition, is the Pennsylvania "Flagship Niagra" plate. It has white lettering on a pale brown image, giving very little contrast between the lettering and the background. The State Police were opposed to this design for good reason, but I gather that PennDOT or the state legislature ignored that practical matter and made the decision on aesthetic grounds.

      I just visited the PennDOT web page to try to link to a picture of this plate, but it appears not to be available these days. I wonder why...

    3. Re:Stupid specialty license plates. by spoon42 · · Score: 1

      yeah, Penna's got some ugly plates, but that's not the most annoying thing...

      ok, fine. Virginia gets to be the "Internet C@pital". sounds pretty l33t if you ask me. ;)

      but anyway... guess what Pennsylvania's drivers get to put up with? Our new plates will have the URL of the state's web page (which is ugly as sin, btw). and They(tm) are trying to say it's a good thing that PA will have the first license plate in the world to have the web site address on it. woohoo. a billboard on every car. you might think I'm just saying that, but those are the words of our Governor in the press release...

      bleh. luckily, I think I can get classic plates since my car is old enough. ('83 Honda Accord. yeah! :)

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  59. The real Internet birthplace by edhall · · Score: 1
    As for where the Internet was born, The Pentagon in Arlington, VA is technically the correct location, while the Implementation began in Cambridge, MA.

    The papers which started it all were written at RAND in Santa Monica, CA (though the Pentagon paid for them). As for the birth of the ARPANET, which became the Internet--well, even though BBN (in Cambridge, MA) was contracted by (D)ARPA to build the hardware, the actual "first byte" was transmitted at UCLA, which last time I checked was in Los Angeles, CA.

    The most popular Internet site is based in Santa Clara, CA. (AOL claims more visits, but a significant fraction of these aren't Internet-based). The major manufacturers of Internet infrastructure equipment are based in Silicon Valley, also in CA.

    If being the center of Net VC and Net Companies doesn't make Silicon Valley the "center of the Internet," what would?

    -Ed
  60. Re:Virginia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You didn't know the Fredericksburg area is a DC burb?

  61. Let's be picky about language. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'Bolded'? I think you'll be finding that isn't a valid word.

  62. Re:figures.. by shaunj · · Score: 1

    it is also the home of MCI Worldcom and UUnet (ok... well technically MCI Worldcom is in DC)

  63. In defense of DC by kuro5hin · · Score: 1
    Oh yeah. Fairfax Station. Ugh. Miles and miles of perfect little homes nestled on their snug 1/2 acre, with Wally and the Beav playing out back. And you're never more than 4 miles from the nearest Target.

    DC gets a bad rap, but there are a lot of people who would rather not live in the endless NoVa suburbia. Whatever your choice is, more power to ya. And yes, currently I live in "the yuppie section" of DC (Dupont), but I used to live in heavily hispanic Adams Morgan, and I miss my old neighbors.

    There's also poor sections of town, and dangerous sections. Show me a city where there aren't poor and dangerous sections. All I know is I've never once felt threatened walking around the city, alone, very late at night. People are just nicer here. Whenever I'm in NoVa, everyone looks hurried, mean and unhappy.

    I roll my windows up and lock the doors when I leave the city.

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  64. Internet Capital: Nekoosa WI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just kidding -- public internet access sucks here

  65. Re:Virginia by banky · · Score: 1

    I used to live in Richmond. We have a client who was very excited at getting a 56k dedicated dialup, apparently there isn't much to be had. Thank Ghod for Northern Virginia; it sucks in every way except for the fact you can get DSL or cable at the drop of a hat.

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  66. NONONO!! by LordXarph · · Score: 1

    NO! NO! NO!
    You got it ALL wrong!
    Janet Reno's the mother of the Internet, Al Gore is the father of the Internet, Linus helped deliver the child, and Virginia adopted the worthless little shit.

  67. There is no life east of the I-5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    San Diego, Ca is now and has for years been the most connected city in the country. It sure as hell isn't Virginia.
    Plus we're the birthplace of digital wireless.

  68. Re:I'm a virginian, and *cough* we, uhm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    anything south of maryland is hick whq and should be destroyed. -your friendly neighborhood yankee

  69. Then who is home of the l33t? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've got a fake CA plate that reads W4R3Z.

  70. Re:"Virginia is for Lusers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It wasn't the first time, so I'm guessing it probably won't be the last! :)

  71. Re:And... by Nightpaw · · Score: 1

    Of course, NJ is really "The Garbage State."

  72. Re:I'm a virginian, and *cough* we, uhm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    marlyand is south of the mason dixon. so it is technically in "the south" the mason-dixon line divides maryland and penn not maryland and va. -sv

  73. Gore & Quayle by hawk · · Score: 1

    The problem is that Qualye wasn't as dumb as he sounded, and Gore is (as dumb as Quale sounded). Qualye recognized when he said something stupid (leading to the "I stand behind all my misstatements" quip), while Gore sets his staff out to defend them . . . .

  74. Re:C@lifornia by vkire · · Score: 1
    If not the c@pital, at least they had the first node.

    The first two nodes: UCLA and Stanford Research Institute (now SRI International).

    KV

  75. Virginia also has UUNet, MCI, Qwest, the Pentagon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yup.

  76. Virginia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm saying this as anonymous since I happen to work there but not live there.

    Virginia is a communist state. Police that I've ever encountered are pretty rude and obnoxious.

    I agree with that one guy, virginia is for loosers (and old people)

    1. Re:Virginia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      whats the commute like from Richmond to Fredricksburg? Im looking at a job there. Better yet whats the cost of living like? Richmond sucks ass

    2. Re:Virginia by drwatt · · Score: 1

      Hey. I live in Fredericksburg, Virginia (actually Spotsylvania). We are 50 miles from D.C. or 45 miles from MAE EAST. We have DSL and almost Cable modems.
      Virginia is very net savy! There aren't many people or business I know around here that aren't on the net. Hell even the local laundry mats have web cams...

      Watch my computer yard sale this saturday here.
      eservnet.com/yardsale

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  77. No, You're Mistaken by ReadParse · · Score: 1
    No offense intended, only clarification:

    It's interesting that you would falsly accuse the good Commonwealth of using the wrong spelling of the word, when it is actually you who suggested the wrong spelling of the word.

    What makes it even more interesting is that you went so far as to include the definitions of the two words, which proved their spelling and disproved yours.

    As I learned many years ago, and the definitions in your post clearly explain, is that the city is capital and the building is capitol.

    RP

    1. Re:No, You're Mistaken by drivers · · Score: 1

      Are you stupid? I never said any such thing.

      I provided the definitions to refute the person who said they were using the wrong word.

      My response was to the AC who said that the state (Virginia in this case) was using the wrong word.

      My posts, with the definitions, was that "stuff" is capital, true, but it also can mean the primary location of something (see the definitions). He was saying, shouldn't that be capitol? My post also showed that he was wrong about that, and that capitol means the building or group of buildings of government (like the temple in the etymology). Thus vindicating capital for Virginia. But then they made it c@pital so maybe it's not right after all. It's 31337. :-)

      I realize you must have been confusing the posts and combining them in the mind, but something about the way you bolded the word "you" made me defend my honor. :-)

  78. uhm...i don't see why by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

    Ok, i don't get it...Virginia [to coin a phrase] "sux0rz", i should know, i live here. i havn't seen anything to make me think that this is the "internet capital of the world" besides for UUnet and AOL (does it count?)...i mean, i do have 2 ISPs in my town, but only one counts (my isp kick ass...a bunch of load-ballanced FreeBSD boxes..the one accross town runs Linux, but the admins just play Quake logged in as root on 2 tty's).
    how ever, half the population at least is like, bubba-ville (atleast the part of the state i'm in)

    maybe if i got my ass out of my room, off of my computers, and looked out side, i might see where the c@pital is...hrm...oh well

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  79. Re:I heard MA is getting in on it... by the+COW+OF+DOOM+(tm) · · Score: 1

    Nah. boston's already the center of the universe. let one of the other little states have this one.

    "'Internet C@pital'? Aww, Virginia thinks it's important! that's awful cute."

  80. Re:The licence plates violate trademark laws by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yo! The Virignia government has a law that says that it can't be sued.

  81. Re:Is Al Gore from Virginia? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For God's sake, it's "Capital."

  82. Re:figures.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not for long... MCI Wordcom+UUNet HQ is currently being built in Ashburn, VA

  83. Re:I'm a virginian, and *cough* we, uhm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, but their CS program is outdated and is tought by cueless idiots. Their IS Department is better clued in.

  84. Washington State should get that title by WildKard · · Score: 1

    Okay, so Network Solutions and AOL and major hub are in Virginia. But Washington state has far more companies that influence were the net and tech will be going.. Real Networks, M$, Starwave, Amazon.com (just to name a few) and a ton of start-ups that are too numerous to list and many that we don't know about yet are based in the Seattle-Bellevue area. The content, the technology (both hardware and software), the vision is coming out of this region. If any state deserves the title of Internet C@pital it's Washington!

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  85. How embarassing by hogwaller · · Score: 1
    I live in Charlottesville, Va (but never went
    To UVa). This is really embarassing. It's like when you were a kid, and your grandmother
    made you wear a shirt that said "Nana's Favorite Boy"
    and all your friends saw you and they'd laugh.
    Not that it ever happened to me...or if it did, I blocked it out.
    Did @l Gore invent Virginia? I'm confused...

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  86. New Jersey Motto: Which Exit Are You From? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just about sums things up.

  87. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  88. Re:Ack! Yeah right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    How would you pronounce "Internet C@pital?" "In-tur-net Cat-pit-ul"

    Internet Cat Piddle? Sounds like Mr. Bigglesworth is involved somehow! :D

  89. Re:And... by Uart · · Score: 1

    hey hey hey...

    watch your flame.

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  90. Where's Virgnia? by Grampa · · Score: 1

    So where is "Virgnia" anyway?

  91. This is really goint to tick off... by Hiro_Protaganist · · Score: 1

    That technological hotbed that is...Mississippi

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  92. Internet C@pital? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Internet Capital"? Like "Internet Money"? Perhaps they mean "Internet C@pitol" instead? Sheesh! Can't the State even spell?

    1. Re:Internet C@pital? by MrRoboto · · Score: 2
      As a graduate of a Virginia high school, I take offense to your assertion that the State can't spell. We can. Never mind the fact that I dropped out of college ;o). Here is an illustration of the difference:

      The State Capitol is in Richmond. It is a building.
      The Inbreeding Capital of America is West Virginia. It is a place.

      And there you have it.

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    2. Re:Internet C@pital? by drivers · · Score: 3

      "Internet Capital"? Like "Internet Money"? Perhaps they mean "Internet C@pitol" instead? Sheesh! Can't the State even spell?

      Very interesting etymology on capitol vs. capital...

      Main Entry: capitol
      Etymology: Latin Capitolium, temple of Jupiter at Rome on the Capitoline hill
      1 a : a building in which a state legislative body meets b : a group of buildings in which the functions of state government are carried out
      2 /capitalized/ : the building in which the U.S. Congress meets at Washington


      3capital
      Etymology: French or Italian; French, from Italian capitale, from capitale, adjective, chief, principal, from Latin capitalis

      1 a (1) : a stock of accumulated goods especially at a specified time and in contrast to income received during a specified period; also : the value of these accumulated goods (2) : accumulated goods devoted to the production of other goods (3) : accumulated possessions calculated to bring in income

      3 [2capital] a : a city serving as a seat of government b : a city preeminent in some special activity "the fashion capital"

  93. dOOd its Salt Lake City by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Home of the U. of Utah, some of the pioneers of the internet. Home of stampede and caldera linux. Hub for the west. SLC REPRESNT

    1. Re:dOOd its Salt Lake City by slashdot-terminal · · Score: 1

      Being host to one of the original aarpnet nodes does not automatically qualify a place as being an "internet capitol". The infrastructure that is currently there is what really counts. Basically I feel that Virgania qualifies for this status. Almost all of the major internet backbones make their way through some part of that state.

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  94. Re:Er, wait a minute by MrRoboto · · Score: 1
    No, C@pitol is the building where your tax dollars are wasted. C@pital is right.

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  95. Re:Er, wait a minute by dangermouse · · Score: 1

    Well, no. A "capitol" is a building.

  96. figures.. by Catatonic+Dismay · · Score: 3

    netsol did actually put them up to it:

    Network Solutions and Northern Virginia e-business, Strategic-INFO developed the plate and worked with Virginia Delegate Jeannemarie Devolites to garner support for it from Virginia's General Assembly.

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  97. Ack! Yeah right by Enoch+Root · · Score: 5
    Just the fact they call it a capit@l proves they're not. @nyone using th@t @nnoying ch@r@cter @ny pl@ce @t @ll except for em@il @ddresses @nd @s @ shortcut to '@t' is just riding the hype. @m I the only one getting tired of it? Wh47 n3x7??? M4rk3t3rz w3311 b sp34k33n 13yk 7h3 31337???? Disclaimer: yes, I know no 31337 uses the word '31337'. I'm not 31337. Tank G0d, 3y3 can speel.

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  98. C@lifornia by Vegigami · · Score: 1

    If not the c@pital, at least they had the first node.



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  99. No. St. Louis! by Robert+Hayden · · Score: 1
    The Internet capital is in St. Louis because that's where the domain geek.net will be as soon as I move it from its former home in Minneapolis.

    Just waiting for my T1 to come up in my townhouse so I can move the box.

    :-)

  100. Re:I'm a virginian, and *cough* we, uhm.. by -stax · · Score: 1

    Ahh, just another reason why statehood should be granted to Northern VA! It's a whole different state..

  101. bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IL is the real capital. and that @ sign sucks.

  102. Catpital? by ENOENT · · Score: 1

    I don't get it. What's a catpital. Is this some play on the word "caterpillar"? That's gotta be it. Virginia is the caterpillar of the Internet, chewing up the pesky milkweed pods that cause packet loss, data corruption, and dandruff.

    Eventually, Virginia will pupate and finally become an adult butterfly, fluttering across a green meadow, chased by a cat... Hey, cats, CATpital... obviously, I'm on the right track.

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  103. And... by kuro5hin · · Score: 2

    and Maine is "Vacationland", and New Jersey is "The Garden State". Since when did these things have to make any sense?

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  104. What kind of Capital? by Albatross · · Score: 1

    The kind like Washington, or the kind like all the $10 fees they'll be getting?

    Seriosly, in my state the money from these specialty plates goes to groups associated with the plate. Who will be getting the cash from these?

  105. The big picture.. by malkavian · · Score: 1

    I just think the world is the Capital of the internet..
    When you think of it, everywhere is really right next to each other (in terms of referring to the internet in it's own context, as a network)..
    In future years we're likely to get away from the planet, and have other networks too...
    But, at least for the forseeable future, Earth is the capital (capitol, whatever) of the internet...
    And Michigan is a fine a place as any, to select as the center.. :) A lot of the friends I chat to, and Slashdot are there.. :) It's pretty much the center of _my_ personal subjective internet.. :)
    I really think subjective centers of it is about as close as you can really get to an answer really, isn't it??

    Malk (In a philosophical mood)

  106. AOL is in virginia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IIRC correctly from my AOL days, aol's internet connection is in virginia. So that's why it's the capital :-)

  107. ./'ers are smart enough to know how to read ... by |DaBuzz| · · Score: 1

    Ok, he didn't say he "invented" the internet, he said he "created" it. Here's the clip from wired.com.

    WASHINGTON -- It's a time-honored tradition for presidential hopefuls to claim credit for other people's successes.

    But Al Gore as the father of the Internet?

    That's what the campaigner in chief told CNN's Wolf Blitzer during an interview Tuesday evening. Blitzer asked Gore how he was different than other presumptive Democratic challengers, such as Bill Bradley. "What do you have to bring to this that he doesn't necessarily bring to this process?"

    Replied Gore: "I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins, and it'll be comprehensive and sweeping, and I hope that it'll be compelling enough to draw people toward it.... I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years."

    Then came the kicker: "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."


    (My bold)

    Reference it for yourself at http://www.wired.com/news/ news/politics/story/18390.html

    I guess now you'll say Wired is a tool for the conservitive right wing ... shyeah right. Before you say someone else "sounds stupid", you may want to get your facts straight.

  108. The licence plates violate trademark laws by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The very moment you own the plate, you get sued by a corporation who bears the .com trademark of the same name. What a stupid idea by Virginia government.

  109. The story... by Assistant+Madman · · Score: 1

    ... reads like an article from "TheOnion". Laugh? Cry? .... laugh, it's more fun...

  110. MAE East by The+Dev · · Score: 4

    Since 1995, Virginia, or more specifically Tysons Corner has been the "center" of the internet, topologically speaking. The MAE East public peering point has and still is the most populated peering point. At one time over 60% of
    all internet traffic, and some 80% of international traffic passed through MAE East.
    Recently however the proliferation of private peering has significantly reduced those
    numbers (of course a significant ammount of private peering occurs between backbone routers at
    the MAE East location(s).

    As for where the Internet was born, The Pentagon in Arlington, VA is technically the correct location, while the Implementation began in Cambridge, MA.

    As for Sillicon Valley? Well they were the capital of the previous revolution,
    the Personal Computer. They might even say they are the center of Net VC, and Net Companies, but
    not the Internet itself.

    1. Re:MAE East by color+of+static · · Score: 1

      Actually Tysons isn't where it's at. Drive a little further out the toll road and you'll see that the highest density of Internet bandwidth is in Reston, Herndon, and Dulles. I live within 4 miles of huge internet presences of PSI, UUNET, Sprint, AOL, MCI, Bell Atlantic's. Although I still can't get a connection over 51kbps. Of course we also can't forget AT&T and DISA which are little further away.

      Of course MAE East used to be in Maryland, but I haven't kept up with where it is now.

  111. Virginia by Hallow · · Score: 1

    Heh. I live in Richmond, Virginia.

    Northern VA is an internet haven. AOL and NSI are both based there. Cable and DSL access is everywhere.

    The problem is, outside of the D.C. area burbs, it stinks. No DSL, cable is spotty at best, ISDN prices are outrageous!! (thanks bell-atlantic!).

    I can't wait to move to someplace more connected once I'm out of school.

  112. D00D it's Albuquerque! by Sloppy · · Score: 1

    Bill Gates, who invented the internet long before Al Gore ripped it off, got his start here!


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  113. alabama by alta · · Score: 1

    I'm in alabama everybody knows the internet was formed here by a few cotten bails and some barbed wire fence. Or was it with a shrimp net strung between two shrimp boats, so they could communicate. Yah, I like that better.

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  114. Whoo hoo! by StickMan · · Score: 1

    Go virginia! hell, it's better than our old motto, "Virginia is for Lovers" At least now we can be something that means something.

    1. Re:Whoo hoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better slogan:

      Virginia: at least we're not New Jersey.

  115. We can spell just fine by Old+Man+Kensey · · Score: 1
    An AC wrote:
    "Internet Capital"? Like "Internet Money"? Perhaps they mean "Internet C@pitol" instead? Sheesh! Can't the State even spell?

    We can spell just fine, thank you. A "capitol" is a building. A "capital" is a place.

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  116. I'm a virginian, and *cough* we, uhm.. by Uruk · · Score: 1

    I go to school at VCU in Richmond Virginia,
    and I can tell you first hand that virginians
    like to think that we're on the cutting edge
    of technology. Motorola semiconductor plants
    which may or may not be build here, of course
    we've got AOL, and many other tech companies in
    NOVA (northern VA).

    The governor, Jim Gilmore, even appointed a
    special group for information technology advising
    recently. Among the appointees? The president of VCU, (who is a PhD *history* major, and who I know couldn't compute his way out of a wet paper bag) Steve Case, one of everybody's favorite evil internet millionaires. All in all, it's a very colorful collection of goons we've got down here in the good ol' boy state.

    It seems that businesses for quite some time now have been falling all over each other trying to get to the internet to ply their wares, and governments are no different, only in that what they're selling is slightly different. They want prestige for "fostering a technology friendly environment where the innovation of tomorrow becomes a reality".

    Jeez, I wonder when the state government page is going to start carrying pr0n banners... :) if they really want to stay on the leading edge of things, then they need to get started on more shameless commercialism, (although selling crappy license plates where $plate =~ s/[Aa]/\@/g; is a good start) and catch up with the rest of the internet.



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  117. No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A capital is the city that is the seat of government for a region, a capitOl is a building in which activities of said seat of government are carried out.

  118. I said read, not type by |DaBuzz| · · Score: 1

    Obviously the subject above should be /.'ers are smart enough to know how to read ... so feel free to attack my typo's rather than address the issue.

  119. Cyberquatting -- no, Autosquatting time!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now we will see individuals buying tons of unused licence numbers so they can sell them to companies for inflated prices.

  120. Then leave by |DaBuzz| · · Score: 1

    We have nothing to do with the rest of the state. We don't get along with them particularly well either.

    So maybe you elitist northern snobs should succeed from the commonwealth ... then you can get your own TLD, .ass.

  121. I'm sorry, you look really stupid here by delmoi · · Score: 1

    He was correcting the previous poster. in otherwords. you agree with him. The part in Italics is a quote from the prvious post
    "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"

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  122. I heard MA is getting in on it... by chandoni · · Score: 3
    Supposedly, their new plates read:

    .commonwealth of Massachusetts

  123. Is Al Gore from Virginia? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is just stupid. One of the great things about the internet is that there is no capitol. Saying there is a capitol of the internet is like proclaiming yourself leader of the anarchist movement. If there COULD be a capitol, it would most likely be based around a university were early internet developement took place, like Berkley. Silicon Valley might be able to proclaim "computer capitol", but not "internet capitol". Whoever it was in Virginia who decided this probably doesn't even really know much about the internet (you know, those people who think world wide web = internet). Network Solutions, considering all the problems they have had of late, would be better off not trying to brag. They have become "internet pain-in-the-ass". Besides, isn't the Virginia state flower the home satellite dish? C'mon, they can't monopolize ALL the technology.

  124. From meaningfull to stupid.. by Thomas+Charron · · Score: 1

    'Live Free Or Die' compared to Internet C@pital. For crying out loud, we americans MUST be a stupid as the rest of the world makes us up to be..

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  125. Does anyone really... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GIVE A FSCK??? Who cares where the meatspace coordinates of any bit of the internet are...with sufficient redundancy, it is everywhere

  126. Political Idiots by TreeRat · · Score: 2

    This is just as bad as all the Internet IPOs. Every politian has to jump on the "Internet Bandwagon". Unfortunately, the people who claim they are the most "wired" are usually the most clueless.

    As was pointed out in the article, there really is no center of the internet. It's built on the hub and spoke system. Almost any major metro area can claim to be "internet capitol". Usually, they are just satisfied with "the next silicon valley".

    Its funny, in the Midwest, we have several areas competing to be the Silicon Prarie!

    And I'm sure all this will play well over in Europe... These stupid politians keep forgetting that the internet is only partially based in the US.

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