No I was not. You assumed I'm an american. Okay, I didn't provide any clues otherwise, I'll give you that. I was doing 80 km/h, which is perfectly legal on secondary roads in Holland.
Anyway, the circumstances don't really matter, because people might freak out if they get hit by water when they don't expect it.
And yeah, kids do stupid stuff. That's why it's important to have someone watching them before they know better, so they don't to stupid and dangerous stuff.
spraying water into the open windows of any vehicle that drove up the road.
So you're saying that you were one of those fucking little pests that nearly got me killed one day by squirting a stream of water in my eye while I was doing 80...
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Newsgroups: comp.os.minix Subject: Gcc-1.40 and a posix-question Message-ID: <1991Jul3.100050.9886@klaava.Helsinki.FI> Date: 3 Jul 91 10:00:50 GMT
Hello netlanders,
Due to a project I'm working on (in minix), I'm interested in the posix standard definition. Could somebody please point me to a (preferably) machine-readable format of the latest posix rules? Ftp-sites would be nice.
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds) Newsgroups: comp.os.minix Subject: Gcc-1.40 and a posix-question Message-ID: Date: 3 Jul 91 10:00:50 GMT
Hello netlanders,
Due to a project I'm working on (in minix), I'm interested in the posix standard definition. Could somebody please point me to a (preferably) machine-readable format of the latest posix rules? Ftp-sites would be nice.
And are you saying that to stop the KKK, Jews should renounce their religion?
Ofcourse not. That doesn't make sense, it doesn't work that way. All I said was that religion promotes ignorance, and quite often hate as well. At least christianity does, and that's where the KKK come from.
Now before you start jumping down my neck, I'm not saying that all christians are KKK's, far from it, but there's no denying that the KKK is based on christianity.
And where did you get this jews stuff from anyway? I see absolutely nothing about jews in either my post or the one I was replying to.
I'm not going to abuse someone for having a faith of some kind.
Hey, ofcourse not. If it works for them, and they keep it to themselves, that's fine. Just don't keep bothering me with it. It's when they keep pestering me with their religious beliefs and FUD that I'll gladly return the call...;-)
I've found (illegal copies of) mp3's of bands that I would normally have never heard of. And after listening to the album a couple of times sitting behind the computer, I bought it on cd.
So mp3's have in fact increased my cd purchases.
Mp3's are great to sample the music, especially if your taste in music is something non-popular, which means you can never find it in cd stores.
I have to admit there's a bit of a grey area with albums that I keep around on mp3 to listen to once in a while but that I don't buy on cd because I don't consider them 'worthy enough' or because I want to spend my cash on better cd's. But still, mp3's have increased my cd purchases.
The only problem I had with the emulator was that the games ran WAY TOO FAST!
Have you tried nesting emulators? Like they did on bedope awhile back... I can't find the screenshot anymore, but it showed BeOS running a MacOS emulator, on which they were running a dos emulator, which was running windows 3.1, and on top of that they had a MacII emulator running digdug!
Would you rather have 1) your internet service cut off, or 2) your country relentlessly bombed?
This is not a matter of 1) OR 2).
Would you rather have internet access while your country is being bombed so you can at least get the message out, or would you prefer losing your net access as well as getting the shite bombed out of you?
And besides, I do think this sort of information warfare is more scary than bombs. Bombs are straightforward, they drop and go bang, and that's that.
Information warfare is way more sneaky than that, because when you shut up your enemy you can say what you want about them because there's nobody who will deny it, so the gullible masses will just assume it's true.
This was what made the cold war so succesful. You only heard one side of it, and that was the american propaganda.
My dad once told me that he and a lot more people back then thought that those people in russia could never be human, that there were some kind of monsters living there. So sure, go ahead and bomb the crap out of them, then. This is what propaganda does to people!
Now the great thing about the internet is that you can just contact people worldwide and ask them what things are like on the other side. It's about knowledge. If people know what's really going on, the propaganda doesn't work anymore, and then people might conclude that this whole shit isn't good and that it should stop.
Is this consistent with common carrier status?
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It's not the same thing...
And I don't think they are really interested in the contents of whatever it is that gets sent. All that the ISP needs to know is that the subscriber sent something that caused the whole ISP to get on the shitlist, which is obviously not good for business. And it's not something the ISP could have prevented either, without them filtering messages for content, which isn't a good idea either.
And to take a shot at an analogy: What if some J. Random Person got a phonecall from some guy threatening to kill him, or whatever. JRP doesn't like this, and sues the phone company.
Then what? Should the phone company just pay up and let it go? I don't think so, so I think they should be able to sue the sender.
Car drivers really are anti-social freaks: psychologist
Michel Slashdot.org
It may be a stereotype to describe drivers as anti-social freaks, but it is an accurate one -- at least for the best-known type of driver, says a University of Manitoba psychologist.
The average "road warrior" is a white, middle-class male, aged 18 to 28, who lacks social skills and comes from a dysfunctional family, says Marc Rogers, who is studying drivers for his graduate thesis.
"They usually have not the best social skills. They tend to be the loners," the former Winnipeg police officer says. "They feel a lot more comfortable behind a steering wheel than in face-to-face interaction."
At a car show in California's Silicon Valley earlier this year, Mr. Rogers stirred controversy with his presentation, "Psychology of a driver," in which he argued drivers tend to come from broken families. He said they may also have been subjected to physical or sexual abuse.
Drivers have killed thousands of people worldwide, driven at speeds of hundreds of miles/hour, and tried to wreak havoc on the roads of the world. But just who are they?
Mr. Rogers, after spending 12 years on the Winnipeg police force, including a stint as lead detective on the traffic department, has now turned his attention to finding out, in the hopes it will help safeguard against their intrusions.
As part of his graduate thesis, Mr. Rogers developed a profile of road warriors -- drivers whose hobby has put them before the criminal courts. But he stresses they are just one type of driver.
Others include:
"Newbies," or "sunday drivers," his tags for young novices.
"Businessmen," current or former disgruntled employees who use their leased cars to attack pedestrians.
"Mechanics," who disseminate engine characteristics but don't necessarily do it themselves.
"Professionals," the mercenaries of the car driving world, who may work for criminal organizations.
"Highway-terrorists," Mr. Rogers is also considering a new category he calls "cartivists," people who drive cars to political aims.
Well, what are all those computers-things then? I've got this big box here with blinky lights on 'em. What can it do? (another decent question!) And there's this, this thing with Looooots of buttons on it, what's that then? But seriously: I don't care if it's a decent question or not. A lot of flamebait are decent questions too. This moderator should ask himself: "Do I really need to see this post to understand the discussion at hand? Is it on topic?" No?
Well then why shove it up to the front of the queue? You could have just given the guy a straight answer and get it over with, instead of putting it in the spotlight like this.
This is exactly the problem with a lot of discussion groups online. People who just wander in having not at least a basic grasp of what the group is for, and just firing of a question instead. It's called noise. It disturbs the signal.
Various people have already pointed out that you shouldn't just lump all people (newbies || clueless || idiots) together. Well that rule applies to the other subject in this discussion as well:
You shouldn't lump all operating systems together either!
So if you just want to write letters: Use windows. If you want to do more than that, use something better suited to the task. If you're new to linux and want to learn how it all works, start with one of the more newbie-proof distros like Redhat. If you feel Redhat doesn't cut it for you, upgrade to Debian.
Isn't it great to have a choice, to get the OS best suited to what you want? To use the best available tool for the job?
Oh, and since it appears to be popular around here, the car analogy:
Everyone [1] can drive a car nowadays. Everyone [1] can use a computer nowadays. But just like I wouldn't want my grandma to use a Ferrari to go shopping, I wouldn't want Joe Typist to use Debian (or linux at all) to write that letter.
You said it yourself, Big Companies (MS in this case) don't innovate, they buy. So a small software house develops something really great and patents it. Big Company wants to use it, so they want to buy it. Small Guy isn't selling. Big Company buys Small Guy instead. It's how things work...
If it's a useful patent some big guy will want to have it, and pay for it. And once they have it they will defend it with all their power. Patents gravitate towards big companies.
Now I'm not saying that patents should be abolished completely. No. But they do have to change. A 20 year expiration date is just way too long in this field. In 20 years time, the patented idea is horrendously outdated anyway. (Well, most of the time they are.)
You probably also think it's great that Microsoft has a monopoly. Because that's what this is about. If a certain company can grab a couple of strategic patents, it will become a monopoly.
Patents. Create. Monopolies.
I mean, it takes 20 years for a patent to expire. 20 years. That's the IBM PC. Hell, that's Microsoft!
And it's not just driving hobbyists out of business, but competitors as well. If a competitor can't touch an idea for 20 years, there _will be_ no competition.
Hey if you happen to work for the competition, you might even lose your job. Then what will you do?
I'm still guessing, because tcpdump didn't really help, not everything shows up in tcpdump.
And it doesn't send packets when I stick a firewall between me and the outside world, so it looks like it's reacting to some incoming stuff.
FWIW, My machine's an AMD K6-2 300 with a NE-2000 clone card. It has done this in 2.2pre as well as 2.1.*, but not in my regular 2.0.35 kernel. And I noticed this because I have the wmnet dockapplet running, which shows incoming and outgoing packets in a graph.
I'm having a weird problem with the development kernels. (2.1 as well as 2.2)
My system is sending out packets all the time, just a little bit like when you're pinging someone (but without the reply's) and every once in a while a large peak (3-4k/s).
I can't figure out what it's doing and I can't find it in any of the logfiles.
Is a gun specifically made to put holes in people? Well... That appears to be the function that the designers had in mind, yeah.
But still, a gun (or your car) CAN be used offensively, but so far I haven't seen any casualties from the use of encryption. Which was the original point, if you remember.
It doesn't matter if you can use a gun defensively, it's still designed to be a pretty offensive thing. I don't see how you can use encryption in an offensive way.
And how about ICBM's with nuclear warheads then? They are used defensively most of the time too. Yet you have to admit that they can be pretty damn offensive once you actually use them.
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No I was not. You assumed I'm an american. Okay, I didn't provide any clues otherwise, I'll give you that. I was doing 80 km/h, which is perfectly legal on secondary roads in Holland.
Anyway, the circumstances don't really matter, because people might freak out if they get hit by water when they don't expect it.
And yeah, kids do stupid stuff. That's why it's important to have someone watching them before they know better, so they don't to stupid and dangerous stuff.
Oh well, I survived.
So you're saying that you were one of those fucking little pests that nearly got me killed one day by squirting a stream of water in my eye while I was doing 80...
Stupid kids... :-(
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Gcc-1.40 and a posix-question
Message-ID: <1991Jul3.100050.9886@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
Date: 3 Jul 91 10:00:50 GMT
Hello netlanders,
Due to a project I'm working on (in minix), I'm interested in the posix standard definition. Could somebody please point me to a (preferably) machine-readable format of the latest posix rules? Ftp-sites would be nice.
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Gcc-1.40 and a posix-question
Message-ID:
Date: 3 Jul 91 10:00:50 GMT
Hello netlanders,
Due to a project I'm working on (in minix), I'm interested in the posix standard definition. Could somebody please point me to a (preferably) machine-readable format of the latest posix rules? Ftp-sites would be nice.
Ofcourse not. That doesn't make sense, it doesn't work that way. All I said was that religion promotes ignorance, and quite often hate as well. At least christianity does, and that's where the KKK come from.
Now before you start jumping down my neck, I'm not saying that all christians are KKK's, far from it, but there's no denying that the KKK is based on christianity.
And where did you get this jews stuff from anyway? I see absolutely nothing about jews in either my post or the one I was replying to.
Hey, ofcourse not. If it works for them, and they keep it to themselves, that's fine. Just don't keep bothering me with it. It's when they keep pestering me with their religious beliefs and FUD that I'll gladly return the call... ;-)
You say anti religion sites should be hacked. Why? Think for a bit, it's religion that brought us those KKK idiots in the first place.
Religion promotes ignorance and closed mindedness. Be religious! Join us! Follow the herd, be a good little sheep now, will you? Baaaaa!
I'm anti-religious. Hack me. I think for myself instead of blindly following some religion. Is that so bad that I should be hacked?
Hmm, sorry about the rant, but ignorant assholes like that piss me off.
And why is this guy moderated up anyway?
Quite the opposite, in fact...
I've found (illegal copies of) mp3's of bands that I would normally have never heard of. And after listening to the album a couple of times sitting behind the computer, I bought it on cd.
So mp3's have in fact increased my cd purchases.
Mp3's are great to sample the music, especially if your taste in music is something non-popular, which means you can never find it in cd stores.
I have to admit there's a bit of a grey area with albums that I keep around on mp3 to listen to once in a while but that I don't buy on cd because I don't consider them 'worthy enough' or because I want to spend my cash on better cd's. But still, mp3's have increased my cd purchases.
Have you tried nesting emulators? Like they did on bedope awhile back... I can't find the screenshot anymore, but it showed BeOS running a MacOS emulator, on which they were running a dos emulator, which was running windows 3.1, and on top of that they had a MacII emulator running digdug!
That should slow things down nicely I think...
This would be funny if it wasn't so incredibly stupid.
This is not a matter of 1) OR 2).
Would you rather have internet access while your country is being bombed so you can at least get the message out, or would you prefer losing your net access as well as getting the shite bombed out of you?
And besides, I do think this sort of information warfare is more scary than bombs. Bombs are straightforward, they drop and go bang, and that's that.
Information warfare is way more sneaky than that, because when you shut up your enemy you can say what you want about them because there's nobody who will deny it, so the gullible masses will just assume it's true.
This was what made the cold war so succesful. You only heard one side of it, and that was the american propaganda.
My dad once told me that he and a lot more people back then thought that those people in russia could never be human, that there were some kind of monsters living there. So sure, go ahead and bomb the crap out of them, then. This is what propaganda does to people!
Now the great thing about the internet is that you can just contact people worldwide and ask them what things are like on the other side. It's about knowledge. If people know what's really going on, the propaganda doesn't work anymore, and then people might conclude that this whole shit isn't good and that it should stop.
And I don't think they are really interested in the contents of whatever it is that gets sent. All that the ISP needs to know is that the subscriber sent something that caused the whole ISP to get on the shitlist, which is obviously not good for business. And it's not something the ISP could have prevented either, without them filtering messages for content, which isn't a good idea either.
And to take a shot at an analogy:
What if some J. Random Person got a phonecall from some guy threatening to kill him, or whatever. JRP doesn't like this, and sues the phone company.
Then what? Should the phone company just pay up and let it go? I don't think so, so I think they should be able to sue the sender.
Michel
Slashdot.org
It may be a stereotype to describe drivers as anti-social freaks, but it is an accurate one -- at least for the best-known type of driver, says a University of Manitoba psychologist.
The average "road warrior" is a white, middle-class male, aged 18 to 28, who lacks social skills and comes from a dysfunctional family, says Marc Rogers, who is studying drivers for his graduate thesis.
"They usually have not the best social skills. They tend to be the loners," the former Winnipeg police officer says. "They feel a lot more comfortable behind a steering wheel than in face-to-face interaction."
At a car show in California's Silicon Valley earlier this year, Mr. Rogers stirred controversy with his presentation, "Psychology of a driver," in which he argued drivers tend to come from broken families. He said they may also have been subjected to physical or sexual abuse.
Drivers have killed thousands of people worldwide, driven at speeds of hundreds of miles/hour, and tried to wreak havoc on the roads of the world. But just who are they?
Mr. Rogers, after spending 12 years on the Winnipeg police force, including a stint as lead detective on the traffic department, has now turned his attention to finding out, in the hopes it will help safeguard against their intrusions.
As part of his graduate thesis, Mr. Rogers developed a profile of road warriors -- drivers whose hobby has put them before the criminal courts. But he stresses they are just one type of driver.
Others include:
Well, what are all those computers-things then?
I've got this big box here with blinky lights on 'em. What can it do? (another decent question!) And there's this, this thing with Looooots of buttons on it, what's that then? But seriously: I don't care if it's a decent question or not. A lot of flamebait are decent questions too. This moderator should ask himself: "Do I really need to see this post to understand the discussion at hand? Is it on topic?"
No?
Well then why shove it up to the front of the queue? You could have just given the guy a straight answer and get it over with, instead of putting it in the spotlight like this.
This is exactly the problem with a lot of discussion groups online. People who just wander in having not at least a basic grasp of what the group is for, and just firing of a question instead. It's called noise. It disturbs the signal.
Jeeeeez.
Don't make the windows mistake. Don't try to be everything for everybody!
[1] (tm) Jerry Springer :-)
You shouldn't lump all operating systems together either!
So if you just want to write letters: Use windows. If you want to do more than that, use something better suited to the task. If you're new to linux and want to learn how it all works, start with one of the more newbie-proof distros like Redhat. If you feel Redhat doesn't cut it for you, upgrade to Debian.
Isn't it great to have a choice, to get the OS best suited to what you want? To use the best available tool for the job?
Oh, and since it appears to be popular around here, the car analogy:
Everyone [1] can drive a car nowadays. Everyone [1] can use a computer nowadays. But just like I wouldn't want my grandma to use a Ferrari to go shopping, I wouldn't want Joe Typist to use Debian (or linux at all) to write that letter.
[1] With some exceptions, ofcourse...
It can never be said enough: Dejanews is your friend!
You said it yourself, Big Companies (MS in this case) don't innovate, they buy. So a small software house develops something really great and patents it. Big Company wants to use it, so they want to buy it. Small Guy isn't selling. Big Company buys Small Guy instead. It's how things work...
If it's a useful patent some big guy will want to have it, and pay for it. And once they have it they will defend it with all their power. Patents gravitate towards big companies.
Now I'm not saying that patents should be abolished completely. No. But they do have to change. A 20 year expiration date is just way too long in this field. In 20 years time, the patented idea is horrendously outdated anyway. (Well, most of the time they are.)
You probably also think it's great that Microsoft has a monopoly. Because that's what this is about. If a certain company can grab a couple of strategic patents, it will become a monopoly.
Patents.
Create.
Monopolies.
I mean, it takes 20 years for a patent to expire. 20 years. That's the IBM PC. Hell, that's Microsoft!
And it's not just driving hobbyists out of business, but competitors as well. If a competitor can't touch an idea for 20 years, there _will be_ no competition.
Hey if you happen to work for the competition, you might even lose your job. Then what will you do?
And it doesn't send packets when I stick a firewall between me and the outside world, so it looks like it's reacting to some incoming stuff.
FWIW, My machine's an AMD K6-2 300 with a NE-2000 clone card. It has done this in 2.2pre as well as 2.1.*, but not in my regular 2.0.35 kernel. And I noticed this because I have the wmnet dockapplet running, which shows incoming and outgoing packets in a graph.
My system is sending out packets all the time, just a little bit like when you're pinging someone (but without the reply's) and every once in a while a large peak (3-4k/s).
I can't figure out what it's doing and I can't find it in any of the logfiles.
Does anybody know what this is?
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Is a gun specifically made to put holes in people? Well... That appears to be the function that the designers had in mind, yeah.
But still, a gun (or your car) CAN be used offensively, but so far I haven't seen any casualties from the use of encryption. Which was the original point, if you remember.
It doesn't matter if you can use a gun defensively, it's still designed to be a pretty offensive thing. I don't see how you can use encryption in an offensive way.
And how about ICBM's with nuclear warheads then? They are used defensively most of the time too. Yet you have to admit that they can be pretty damn offensive once you actually use them.