They plan on supporting Linux and Solaris in January.
Could you post a link to the page that gives January as a planned date for a Linux release of javafx? I haven't been able to find any reference to that date yet, but it's hard to find all the javafx related pages they have.
I guess it's too much to ask that you click on the link in the story that takes you to Sun's blog where they explain that Linux and Solaris versions are being released?
I wonder if those versions will be released before Duke Nukem Forever. I heard that was going to be released, too.
Considering the fact that Flash is essentially mandatory for many websites...
That's the crux of the issue -- web support on 64-bit systems. Adobe Flash has it, Sun Java does not.
By ignoring Bug 4502695 for over 5 years (and over 800 votes), Sun has just given the 64-bit webspace to Adobe. Why should anyone wait another year to see if a 64-bit java plugin is actually released when Flash has a 64-bit plugin now?
Way to go, Sun. You've killed JavaFX before it even got started, and strangled the attempts to resurrect the applet and web-start apps.
...but they can hardly do worse than Sun, from what I've heard about their management of OO.o.
Sun's management of both OpenOffice and Java is lousy. They don't listen to their users -- the Java bug-tracking and voting system is bogus, and OpenOffice is "primitive".
Read the threads linked to above to get an idea of Sun's utter cluelessness.
It is a huge convenience if you are able to process data from documents like spreadsheets in code you write.
I agree. The problem is there really is no working "ODF Toolkit". It's vaporware.
Sun and IBM have been promising an odf toolkit since 2006, but to date nothing of any use has been produced. The current "ODF Toolkit" has virtually no documentation or example code, and is generally useless for importing data from an openoffice.org spreadsheet into a java program. If readers here don't believe me, they can go ahead and try it for themselves.
The best thing available for odf handling in java is JOpenDocument. Hopefully the "new and improved" odf toolkit project is now working with the JOpenDocument developers.
I don't know if they are, because I gave up waiting on Sun and IBM and decided to use the Apache POI libraries to read and write excel spreadsheets that can be created/opened by either MSOffice or OpenOffice.org.
Comparing Alaska to the other 49 states, which also don't have a federal capital located in them, would be more meaningful, and on that measure Alaska is pretty pork-infested.
Look at the charts I linked to. It shows the Federal expenditures for all 50 states. Alaska is 34th. Here's some more information about Alaska.
When you just look at the size of Alaska, I think that trying to spin $197 million dollars in earmarks as excessive pork is not going to work. Alaska is so huge geographically that most people will realize how silly that idea is the moment they see a map.
I don't usually reply to my own posts, but while looking around further, I found this chart showing the actual federal dollars spent among the states. It also includes spending for the District of Columbia (58.6 BILLION DOLLARS). Alaska received such a small amount that there isn't enough room on the graphic to even write the state's name. The USA Today article referenced in the grandparent post doesn't mention total federal spending per state.
This kind of bullshit -- trying to show that Alaska is a boondoggle dollar sponge by listing per capita breakdown of a portion of federal spending per state instead of actual totals -- is why people think that the mainstream media is in the tank for Obama.
Yeah. In the form of welfare from the federal government.
The $346 million dollars that Alaska received is about three times what Arizona (the lowest earmark beneficiary) got. Alaska is over 5 times as large as Arizona -- Alaska has a land area of 570,380 square miles, Arizona has 113,634 square miles.
When you consider the sheer size of Alaska, along with the remote setting, and that the federal government has prevented Alaska's economic development due to environmentalist protests, I'd say that implying that Alaska is a welfare state is unfair.
but if you say you've never told a joke playing on a stereotype, you are full of shit.
Are you talking about racist stereotypes?
I've never told a joke playing on a stereotype to a political party fund-raiser. Further consider that the party benefiting from the fund raiser has stereotyped the other party as racist, but this contradiction is rarely commented on. So who's full of shit?
Why don't you post some of your stereotype jokes? You know, the non-politically correct ones you find so refreshing and funny.
I'm sure you will select them carefully if you post them in a public forum.
Unless you are skeptical of global warming. Then you will be compared to Holocaust deniers and threatened with losing your academic funding and credentials.
Acknowledging that fact does not excuse people from taking whatever steps are available to them to reduce, stop or reverse damaging the only environment they have in which to live.
Well, that's really the problem, isn't it? Knowing what steps to take. Solutions implemented based upon incomplete and politically motivated science may actually make a "problem" worse.
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HP is shipping Novell's SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop linux.
Novell is Microsoft's trained 150 pound gorilla.
Yeah, but in those countries he'd have been dead years ago.
Could you post a link to the page that gives January as a planned date for a Linux release of javafx? I haven't been able to find any reference to that date yet, but it's hard to find all the javafx related pages they have.
I wonder if those versions will be released before Duke Nukem Forever. I heard that was going to be released, too.
Please follow and read the links in my original post.
You mean, sometimes working. How's JavaFX and webstart working for you?
That's the crux of the issue -- web support on 64-bit systems. Adobe Flash has it, Sun Java does not.
By ignoring Bug 4502695 for over 5 years (and over 800 votes), Sun has just given the 64-bit webspace to Adobe. Why should anyone wait another year to see if a 64-bit java plugin is actually released when Flash has a 64-bit plugin now?
Way to go, Sun. You've killed JavaFX before it even got started, and strangled the attempts to resurrect the applet and web-start apps.
That's just bitchin'.
Sun's management of both OpenOffice and Java is lousy. They don't listen to their users -- the Java bug-tracking and voting system is bogus, and OpenOffice is "primitive".
Read the threads linked to above to get an idea of Sun's utter cluelessness.
Neo, there is no spoon.
Umm, people like the XBox more than Vista?
I agree, the CPAN OpenOffice-OODoc tools are good, but I didn't realize they were part of the ODF Toolkit.
Perhaps you can tell me when they did become part of it?
I agree. The problem is there really is no working "ODF Toolkit". It's vaporware. Sun and IBM have been promising an odf toolkit since 2006, but to date nothing of any use has been produced. The current "ODF Toolkit" has virtually no documentation or example code, and is generally useless for importing data from an openoffice.org spreadsheet into a java program. If readers here don't believe me, they can go ahead and try it for themselves. The best thing available for odf handling in java is JOpenDocument. Hopefully the "new and improved" odf toolkit project is now working with the JOpenDocument developers.
I don't know if they are, because I gave up waiting on Sun and IBM and decided to use the Apache POI libraries to read and write excel spreadsheets that can be created/opened by either MSOffice or OpenOffice.org.
Hmmm. -1 and -1 mods.
The Microsoft Moderator Minions are out early today.
Look at the charts I linked to. It shows the Federal expenditures for all 50 states. Alaska is 34th. Here's some more information about Alaska .
When you just look at the size of Alaska, I think that trying to spin $197 million dollars in earmarks as excessive pork is not going to work. Alaska is so huge geographically that most people will realize how silly that idea is the moment they see a map.
Then here's what matters:
District of Columbia:
population: 581,530
Fed Money: $58,600,000,000.00
per-capita: $100,768.66
State of Alaska:
population: 670,053
Fed Money: $8,500,000,000.00
per-capita: $12,685.56
Washington DC gets about 8 times the money per-capita than Alaska does.
I don't usually reply to my own posts, but while looking around further, I found this chart showing the actual federal dollars spent among the states. It also includes spending for the District of Columbia (58.6 BILLION DOLLARS). Alaska received such a small amount that there isn't enough room on the graphic to even write the state's name. The USA Today article referenced in the grandparent post doesn't mention total federal spending per state.
This kind of bullshit -- trying to show that Alaska is a boondoggle dollar sponge by listing per capita breakdown of a portion of federal spending per state instead of actual totals -- is why people think that the mainstream media is in the tank for Obama.
The $346 million dollars that Alaska received is about three times what Arizona (the lowest earmark beneficiary) got. Alaska is over 5 times as large as Arizona -- Alaska has a land area of 570,380 square miles, Arizona has 113,634 square miles.
When you consider the sheer size of Alaska, along with the remote setting, and that the federal government has prevented Alaska's economic development due to environmentalist protests, I'd say that implying that Alaska is a welfare state is unfair.
Are you talking about racist stereotypes?
I've never told a joke playing on a stereotype to a political party fund-raiser. Further consider that the party benefiting from the fund raiser has stereotyped the other party as racist, but this contradiction is rarely commented on. So who's full of shit?
Why don't you post some of your stereotype jokes? You know, the non-politically correct ones you find so refreshing and funny.
I'm sure you will select them carefully if you post them in a public forum.
Your polished version of the truth. Read a more honest description here.
Stereotyping is alright if you are a Democrat?
Yeah, because you don't see these things repeated over and over in the media.
Here's some British coverage for you. It looks like its a_real_thing to that woman in the photo.
I am surprised there are so many people here who now think it's alright to invade another country without UN permission. What a bunch of hypocrites.
Who put the humor tag on this story? Where's the outrage against Russia's invasion of a sovereign country?
Unless you are skeptical of global warming. Then you will be compared to Holocaust deniers and threatened with losing your academic funding and credentials.
Well, that's really the problem, isn't it? Knowing what steps to take. Solutions implemented based upon incomplete and politically motivated science may actually make a "problem" worse.