Communist police state, because we allow large private entities to possess things of an abstract nature? Isn't that an oxymoron?
So, if we ignore our constitution, that automatically equates to communism? In a communist system, there is no private entity that can "own" something like a copyright. The concept of private property is completely different.
Anyway, your total lack of political understanding of what you speak aside, "fascist police state" is probably more proper a term, and closer to reality.
If you purchase a television, you now "own" it. What does that mean? It means that you traded a tokenized piece of your value (money usually) given to you in trade for some other piece of value (usually work) all of which has been created by a convoluted economic system. Ownership is totally artificial. The only thing you OWN is your body and mind. Everything else is up to what your particular society deems to be yours, using whatever methodology that society uses to define ownership of property.
A television set is not "yours" in any real sense other than you have possession of it. However you may also have possession of a leased car, a rented movie, a library book, etc. You do not "own" these because you possess them, regardless if how somebody may "feel" about it. They only feel that way because they were told they could (about things they "own"). Only some form of contract states you "own" any particular piece of property, defined by your government, justice system and economic system. Hence, a totally artificial construct.
Huh.. ftt. Sounds familiar, but I do not remember if I ever played with your guild back on old school kesmai. I was a very early member of the Sun clan (Lyon.Sun), which I believe is now also going to play on WoW. I read the review of WoW on your guilds site that mentioned how WoW was as fun as IOK. Perhaps I'll check it out now. It still sounds fishy to me, this whole "death not meaning anything" stuff. I just don't see how I can have any real attachment to my char if I can just die over and over with no consequences. Hmm.. Anywho, maybe I'll give it a try. Strong words comparing it to kesmai, IMHO.:-)
Thats probably true. Perhaps they should find a hosting service that doesn't run sites advertised by spam? I think mom-n-pops grocery emporium has a bigger problem by having walmart next door than their parking space problem.
The 1000+ spams per week I receive also cost me bandwidth. They also take up bandwidth I share with others at my isp.
Perhaps two wrongs do not make a right, but it makes me feel a whole lot better.
The only way for an end user to fight back against spam, is to use the only valid information available to us via the spam content: the web server. All the other information is bogus, so using the advertised web site as a target seems totally acceptable to me. Spam is an attack on my inbox. Fight fire with fire.
All typical spam sites are protected by united states law (I assume you mean the US) as freedom of speech. There is nothing outright illegal about the content of the spam email or websites. That does not mean their prefered advertising campaign is a good thing.
This is akin to something like the following: Lets say that Walmart had people coming to your door every 20 minutes and telling you about some new deal. Walmart is still a legit business. There is nothing illegal about knocking on peoples doors. But its a huge pain in the ass. So people decide to go into Walmart, and buy 5 items, and immediately take them to the return counter. Again, nothing illegal about that either. But its a huge pain in the ass to Walmart. Fair is fair. You annoy me, I'll annoy you.
Well, if you look at the mailing list it was sent to, it appears to be pounded by spam. The list IS an art list though. The archives appear to have been a real mailing list about art topics *at one time*. Now though, its a huge spam bucket. Perhaps that mail was misidentified, but for whatever reason, that particular list is totally flooded with spam.
I played that one a bit, it was essentially the same game if I remember correctly. I've soloed kosh several times, but never was able to solo vlad. That was just too hardcore, the tower. The first time I ever attempted the leng dragon with my clan, was probably the coolest moment in online play I have ever had. That was intense, and I had to get the death blow. I was a lower level char so it was damn scary.
I haven't played any newer games, I keep looking into them but they all seem the same, nothing really new. Now, Air Warrior, if they ever do something like that again, I'm all over it.
Ahh, ok, was there some sort of hourly charge? The reason I replied was because you said you had a financial incident at the time, which instantly made me remember of the compuserve system. The kesmai system began development in 75 or so, before being ported to the compuserve system in 83 or so. It had a very large number of concurrent users (several hundred), it was a true mmorpg. Truly revolutionary. Later on, Kesmai corp. created a game called Air Warrior which was a mmofs (massively multiplayer online flight simulator) which had huge battles circa WWII. I mean, we're talking 500 plane large battle groups with 100 B17 bombers, fully crewed, support fighters, troop transports for taking bases, etc. Nothing like it has ever been done since then, I think it went out of business around '96-97. Nothing like flying tail gunner on a B17 bombing run over hostile territory.
I personally think that heavy consequences on death are a good thing. How can you get nervous playing one of these new games if there is no penalty for doing something stupid? It totally breaks the immersion of the game. Having a real stake, especially a financial stake, in your character, is important to that feeling. There were people (myself included) on Kesmai who had spent many years and thousands of dollars building their characters. To willy nilly run off and get killed was unthinkable. A character at a high level commanded respect, because it wasn't just a level grind that got you there. To progress in the higher levels, you had to fight creatures who could kill you in an instant if you did something dumb. It took real skill, knowledge and strategy to get that powerful.
There are traces of these games on todays mmorpgs as well. The clan I belonged to in Kesmai in the 80's is still around today, playing everquest and now WoW.
IOK appeared on Compuserve around 83-84. The Kesmai corporation were the first to do this sort of thing.
I did a bit of searching on this game, and my memory was foggy. IOK started out at $12.50 PER HOUR!! Ugh...
Its mentioned here: http://gamevestor.com/sp.cfm?pageid=920
and here: http://www.gamevestor.com/sp.cfm?pageid=922
They had a bunch of games at the time, megawars was the first it appears.
As far as I know, all facets of online multiplayer games were fleshed out by Kesmai in the early 80's. Pretty much all the things people complain about today, were being complained about more than 20 years ago. This is by no means a new phenomena, it just looks pretty now.
IOK on compuserve? I loved that game. Best MMORPG I've ever played. I think the fee nature of the game added a lot to it, because you really paid for success.
Sheeet... That game was $3 per HOUR to play. I've had several $300 bills from that game, ouch!! Eventually it migrated to a flat fee structure on another service. Some of the most complex team play I've ever done was in that game.
Plus - that game really DID penalize you for dying. You had to be careful. You lost stats that could only be regained by commiting suicide, and completing the undead level which was not easy. I've spent quite some time there. There is nothing more heart pounding than being in a party of 5 high level chars attacking the Leng dragon and dying. All your shit was left sitting there in the dragons cave and if the entire group bit the dust, that was painful. There was real strategy and intense planning on doing the high end stuff and nobody was immune because they were some super tank knight.
Ahhh, the good old days. That was the FIRST MMORPG ever created as far as I know. Anybody else play Kesmai? If you did, you truly know how this genre has devolved into purile drudgery.
I want PAIN when I die. I want CONSEQUENCES. I want to be so freaking scared in a battle that I am sweating, my heart is pounding in my ears and even though its only little ascii chars on my screen, I really felt I was there. I have some really fond memories of that game. Sigh...
Actually you only get free fall in sky diving for a very short period of time. Once you reach terminal velocity, you feel gravity again as you have air providing resistance. If you continued to accellerate towards the earth, than you would experience free fall for a longer period of time, but would reach insane speeds.
Have you ever applied for and been granted a security clearance? I highly doubt it. By this I mean been through a formal fbi/(AF,army,navy, etc) clearance.
The info you described is exactly what would keep you from being granted any sort of critical clearance.
This post isn't about the size of a byte in memory, its about the bytes in a transmission. For even simple serial comms, you mean to tell me that ever since the 70's you've never used 7 bits to describe an 8 bit byte? 8N1 is 9 bits. Add to that the higher level protocol bits and a single byte of meaningful data can easily be way more than 8 bits of transmitted information.
It totally boggles my mind why these bottlers use clear or green bottles. Brown bottles preserve the taste and will never skunk as they block the wavelengths that cause that taste. Whats funny is some poeple I know actually think thats how its supposed to taste and like it:-) They have it on tap and think its horrible.
Well me personally, I home brew beer so I know quite a bit about it. I drink beer that I enjoy, most of it has not marketing whatsoever, its trial and error if I like it or not.
Heineken too hoppy? Geeeez, thats the first time I have ever heard that. You are probably referring to the "skunky" taste of much heineken, which is an artifact of the green bottle. Light causes a chemical reaction in beer bottle in green or clear bottles that makes that skunk taste. Its actually the exact same chemical that skunks produce to make their scent.
A hoppy beer is something like a good strong IPA, or an Imperial stout.
Taste is purely subjective, I agree. However, thats like calling me a snob because I think cheap ground beef isn't the same quality as prime rib. Bud is very popular, however that doesn't change its brewing practices or its ingredients, which are decidedly inferior.
I guess it is being a little arrogant, if people really like bud than so be it. I do know people who think "good beer" is disgusting. I usually generalize the meaning of "good" to be quality ingredients and a decent brewing process. Whether or not the recipe is to your liking, at least it was made properly. Bud is factory spewed and made with crappy grain (rice waste products are included to steady the process and make it cheaper.)
You can download all kinds of movies on line with murder, child molestation, all sorts of abhorant behavior. Hollywood makes a lot of money making these films.
In fact I think you can watch the same acts on TV. And in theatres. And acted out on stage.
How in the world would you know if some video or photos you see online of something unprovable such as cannibilism, necrophilia, murder, etc. are real? Have you seen a good horror movie lately?
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Seeing how Archimedes did his thing with volumes simply through deduction and observation, I find it hard to believe that others in the universe wouldn't have the same basic powers of observation and logic. Archimedes almost discovered integral calculus through what amounts to puzzling out how to calculate volumes of strange objects. Its a leap of logic and happened in the absence of advanced mathematics as we know them. I suppose its possible that our way of doing math is very different, however at the lowest level I can't see how it would matter, ie. on/off binary logic. Charge, absence of charge. That happens all over the universe doesn't it?
That would be "areology" for "ares" meaning mars. However, geo is an acceptable prefix for foreign bodies as well, as its meaning has grown from earth specific to meaning solid bodies in general.
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Communist police state, because we allow large private entities to possess things of an abstract nature? Isn't that an oxymoron?
So, if we ignore our constitution, that automatically equates to communism? In a communist system, there is no private entity that can "own" something like a copyright. The concept of private property is completely different.
Anyway, your total lack of political understanding of what you speak aside, "fascist police state" is probably more proper a term, and closer to reality.
Ownership is absolutely an artificial construct.
If you purchase a television, you now "own" it. What does that mean? It means that you traded a tokenized piece of your value (money usually) given to you in trade for some other piece of value (usually work) all of which has been created by a convoluted economic system. Ownership is totally artificial. The only thing you OWN is your body and mind. Everything else is up to what your particular society deems to be yours, using whatever methodology that society uses to define ownership of property.
A television set is not "yours" in any real sense other than you have possession of it. However you may also have possession of a leased car, a rented movie, a library book, etc. You do not "own" these because you possess them, regardless if how somebody may "feel" about it. They only feel that way because they were told they could (about things they "own"). Only some form of contract states you "own" any particular piece of property, defined by your government, justice system and economic system. Hence, a totally artificial construct.
Huh.. ftt. Sounds familiar, but I do not remember if I ever played with your guild back on old school kesmai. I was a very early member of the Sun clan (Lyon.Sun), which I believe is now also going to play on WoW. I read the review of WoW on your guilds site that mentioned how WoW was as fun as IOK. Perhaps I'll check it out now. It still sounds fishy to me, this whole "death not meaning anything" stuff. I just don't see how I can have any real attachment to my char if I can just die over and over with no consequences. Hmm.. Anywho, maybe I'll give it a try. Strong words comparing it to kesmai, IMHO. :-)
Thats probably true. Perhaps they should find a hosting service that doesn't run sites advertised by spam? I think mom-n-pops grocery emporium has a bigger problem by having walmart next door than their parking space problem.
The 1000+ spams per week I receive also cost me bandwidth. They also take up bandwidth I share with others at my isp.
Perhaps two wrongs do not make a right, but it makes me feel a whole lot better.
The only way for an end user to fight back against spam, is to use the only valid information available to us via the spam content: the web server. All the other information is bogus, so using the advertised web site as a target seems totally acceptable to me. Spam is an attack on my inbox. Fight fire with fire.
Try this one:
n fo /s1/join.php
http://www.moretgage.info/index.htm
That attempts to show some page at:
http://www.moretgage.info/www.my-live-webcams.i
Umm, "the government"?
Which government?
All typical spam sites are protected by united states law (I assume you mean the US) as freedom of speech. There is nothing outright illegal about the content of the spam email or websites. That does not mean their prefered advertising campaign is a good thing.
This is akin to something like the following: Lets say that Walmart had people coming to your door every 20 minutes and telling you about some new deal. Walmart is still a legit business. There is nothing illegal about knocking on peoples doors. But its a huge pain in the ass. So people decide to go into Walmart, and buy 5 items, and immediately take them to the return counter. Again, nothing illegal about that either. But its a huge pain in the ass to Walmart. Fair is fair. You annoy me, I'll annoy you.
Well, if you look at the mailing list it was sent to, it appears to be pounded by spam. The list IS an art list though. The archives appear to have been a real mailing list about art topics *at one time*. Now though, its a huge spam bucket. Perhaps that mail was misidentified, but for whatever reason, that particular list is totally flooded with spam.
I played that one a bit, it was essentially the same game if I remember correctly. I've soloed kosh several times, but never was able to solo vlad. That was just too hardcore, the tower. The first time I ever attempted the leng dragon with my clan, was probably the coolest moment in online play I have ever had. That was intense, and I had to get the death blow. I was a lower level char so it was damn scary.
I haven't played any newer games, I keep looking into them but they all seem the same, nothing really new. Now, Air Warrior, if they ever do something like that again, I'm all over it.
Ahh, ok, was there some sort of hourly charge? The reason I replied was because you said you had a financial incident at the time, which instantly made me remember of the compuserve system. The kesmai system began development in 75 or so, before being ported to the compuserve system in 83 or so. It had a very large number of concurrent users (several hundred), it was a true mmorpg. Truly revolutionary. Later on, Kesmai corp. created a game called Air Warrior which was a mmofs (massively multiplayer online flight simulator) which had huge battles circa WWII. I mean, we're talking 500 plane large battle groups with 100 B17 bombers, fully crewed, support fighters, troop transports for taking bases, etc. Nothing like it has ever been done since then, I think it went out of business around '96-97. Nothing like flying tail gunner on a B17 bombing run over hostile territory.
I personally think that heavy consequences on death are a good thing. How can you get nervous playing one of these new games if there is no penalty for doing something stupid? It totally breaks the immersion of the game. Having a real stake, especially a financial stake, in your character, is important to that feeling. There were people (myself included) on Kesmai who had spent many years and thousands of dollars building their characters. To willy nilly run off and get killed was unthinkable. A character at a high level commanded respect, because it wasn't just a level grind that got you there. To progress in the higher levels, you had to fight creatures who could kill you in an instant if you did something dumb. It took real skill, knowledge and strategy to get that powerful.
There are traces of these games on todays mmorpgs as well. The clan I belonged to in Kesmai in the 80's is still around today, playing everquest and now WoW.
IOK appeared on Compuserve around 83-84. The Kesmai corporation were the first to do this sort of thing.
I did a bit of searching on this game, and my memory was foggy. IOK started out at $12.50 PER HOUR!! Ugh...
Its mentioned here: http://gamevestor.com/sp.cfm?pageid=920
and here: http://www.gamevestor.com/sp.cfm?pageid=922
They had a bunch of games at the time, megawars was the first it appears.
As far as I know, all facets of online multiplayer games were fleshed out by Kesmai in the early 80's. Pretty much all the things people complain about today, were being complained about more than 20 years ago. This is by no means a new phenomena, it just looks pretty now.
IOK on compuserve? I loved that game. Best MMORPG I've ever played. I think the fee nature of the game added a lot to it, because you really paid for success.
Sheeet... That game was $3 per HOUR to play. I've had several $300 bills from that game, ouch!! Eventually it migrated to a flat fee structure on another service. Some of the most complex team play I've ever done was in that game.
Plus - that game really DID penalize you for dying. You had to be careful. You lost stats that could only be regained by commiting suicide, and completing the undead level which was not easy. I've spent quite some time there. There is nothing more heart pounding than being in a party of 5 high level chars attacking the Leng dragon and dying. All your shit was left sitting there in the dragons cave and if the entire group bit the dust, that was painful. There was real strategy and intense planning on doing the high end stuff and nobody was immune because they were some super tank knight.
Ahhh, the good old days. That was the FIRST MMORPG ever created as far as I know. Anybody else play Kesmai? If you did, you truly know how this genre has devolved into purile drudgery.
I want PAIN when I die. I want CONSEQUENCES. I want to be so freaking scared in a battle that I am sweating, my heart is pounding in my ears and even though its only little ascii chars on my screen, I really felt I was there. I have some really fond memories of that game. Sigh...
Vinyl doesn't have a sample rate, its analog. Its a continuous stream of sound with varying frequency.
Yeah, meme basically means what you describe, because that is, in fact, what the word means. An idea or unit of thought.
Actually you only get free fall in sky diving for a very short period of time. Once you reach terminal velocity, you feel gravity again as you have air providing resistance. If you continued to accellerate towards the earth, than you would experience free fall for a longer period of time, but would reach insane speeds.
Its a picture on http://www.rotten.com
Dunno if it was caused by weightlifting, but its a horrible image. You should be able to find it easy enough.
Thats the horror of google groups, seeing your little flame war on usenet from 94 about something totally idiotic. Some things are best forgotten! LOL
Have you ever applied for and been granted a security clearance? I highly doubt it. By this I mean been through a formal fbi/(AF,army,navy, etc) clearance.
The info you described is exactly what would keep you from being granted any sort of critical clearance.
This post isn't about the size of a byte in memory, its about the bytes in a transmission. For even simple serial comms, you mean to tell me that ever since the 70's you've never used 7 bits to describe an 8 bit byte? 8N1 is 9 bits. Add to that the higher level protocol bits and a single byte of meaningful data can easily be way more than 8 bits of transmitted information.
It totally boggles my mind why these bottlers use clear or green bottles. Brown bottles preserve the taste and will never skunk as they block the wavelengths that cause that taste. Whats funny is some poeple I know actually think thats how its supposed to taste and like it :-) They have it on tap and think its horrible.
Well me personally, I home brew beer so I know quite a bit about it. I drink beer that I enjoy, most of it has not marketing whatsoever, its trial and error if I like it or not.
Heineken too hoppy? Geeeez, thats the first time I have ever heard that. You are probably referring to the "skunky" taste of much heineken, which is an artifact of the green bottle. Light causes a chemical reaction in beer bottle in green or clear bottles that makes that skunk taste. Its actually the exact same chemical that skunks produce to make their scent.
A hoppy beer is something like a good strong IPA, or an Imperial stout.
Taste is purely subjective, I agree. However, thats like calling me a snob because I think cheap ground beef isn't the same quality as prime rib. Bud is very popular, however that doesn't change its brewing practices or its ingredients, which are decidedly inferior.
:-)
I guess it is being a little arrogant, if people really like bud than so be it. I do know people who think "good beer" is disgusting. I usually generalize the meaning of "good" to be quality ingredients and a decent brewing process. Whether or not the recipe is to your liking, at least it was made properly. Bud is factory spewed and made with crappy grain (rice waste products are included to steady the process and make it cheaper.)
Oh well
I drink beer, I love beer. I love beer so much that I cannot drink bud, because I like to drink BEER.
Thats not snotty IMO, Bud is just crappy "beer". I suppose its a cheap alcohol delivery mechanism, but beer its not.
You can download all kinds of movies on line with murder, child molestation, all sorts of abhorant behavior. Hollywood makes a lot of money making these films.
In fact I think you can watch the same acts on TV. And in theatres. And acted out on stage.
How in the world would you know if some video or photos you see online of something unprovable such as cannibilism, necrophilia, murder, etc. are real? Have you seen a good horror movie lately?
Seeing how Archimedes did his thing with volumes simply through deduction and observation, I find it hard to believe that others in the universe wouldn't have the same basic powers of observation and logic. Archimedes almost discovered integral calculus through what amounts to puzzling out how to calculate volumes of strange objects. Its a leap of logic and happened in the absence of advanced mathematics as we know them. I suppose its possible that our way of doing math is very different, however at the lowest level I can't see how it would matter, ie. on/off binary logic. Charge, absence of charge. That happens all over the universe doesn't it?
That would be "areology" for "ares" meaning mars. However, geo is an acceptable prefix for foreign bodies as well, as its meaning has grown from earth specific to meaning solid bodies in general.