Something that really caught me eye when I read the article was that the author was not pushing Freenet as some sort of application, but more as a platform (or, as I understand it a protocol) that applications can be built on top of.
You are right in the assumption that for Freenet to take off, it must garner a certain level of critical mass by having a 'killer app'. I think that you are wrong that Freenet does not have the chance to build this killer app. The fact of the matter is that the internet today is, as a general rule, moderately worthless as a repository for information. It is held back by lawyers, bad technology, stupid people, and time-suckers like slashdot (j/k about that last one..;-). I think that Freenet's biggest advantage is that it is a second chance to do a lot of things that the internet did badly the first time over again: like DNS and domain names, etc. I would love to see a system of DNS built on
Uhm, not really. The last two cellular phones that I bought were $325 (Nokia 5120) and $300 (Motorola Timeport, which BTW sucks ass). Having all of the functionality of a PDA and internet on a screen that you can actually use, plus the pen interface is WELL worth the extra $200.
Too true. And load times aren't a problem for me simply because I leave the thing on all the time. It's a file server after all.
It has no CPU fan, a HUGE heatsink (those 233Mhz chips heat up!) and some home-made holes on the case for ventilation. I suppose that if I wanted to, I could rig up a custom box and hide the thing away, but I don't mind the slight eyesore (actually, it blends right into my apartment.. ick) so it just sits out in the open.
Indeed. The decoder card that I use came with the Creative DVD kit that I bought for ~$110. It decodes beautifully quickly, and the TV out is on an ancient ATI all-in-wonder card that is sufficiently good for watching movies and such. You can get one of these cards for what, $10?
This may make me sound like a complete ass, but I have the perfect DVD/CD/CD-R/CD-RW/MP3/VCD player for you: your computer.
That's what I do I have an older box, a P1-266, hooked up to my TV and sound system. I can play just about any format that a fancy-shmancy one-for-all device can, and at the same time, I can have it run as a nice fileserver for my MP3s. It cost about 300-400 bucks to set up, including the cables, nic, DVD, etc. You can't ask for more than that, man.
My apologies for the stupid moderator that burned your karma: you should have gotten +5 insightful.
Perhaps you are right: thinking up new features for a non-existant search software is a waste of both our time, and the software developers time.
Perhaps not. Think about it this way, by my building such a list it helps the engineers in two ways: it shows that I support their software enough that I want to contribute in any way that I can (I can't code for balls), and perhaps I can think of something, as a user, that they may not have thought of. Are either of these things bad?
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What is really holding freenet back is the complete lack of a really sound search architecture. It's granted that in any system, only the top 5-10 percent will have a high enough bandwidth and reliabilty rating to be trusted in any long-term sense.
What I want in a freenet search engine:
1) List of hits.
2) Hits ranked by previous reliability ratings.
3) Size of Key.
4) Speed of node.
I also wouldn't mind ping times to node, current connections to node, etc.
Anyone else out there want to boff up some more suggestions? Perhaps a "Requested items list" could be hammered out and sent to the nice people at http://freenet.sourceforge.net/.
Well, it's definately calming to know that us poor software engineers have some journalists in our pockets. I guess the corporations can't own EVERYTHING.
Right?
(This post may reflect my general distaste for corporations, the media, and everything in general. Then again, it may not.)
So what? Let me build a tiny scenario here for you: I have buddies from all over the world using all sorts of different programs to chat on all sorts of platforms. In order for me to see who's online and whatnot, I have to have 3 or 4 applications open and build 3-4 databases to keep up with everyone.
Does this strike anyone a fucking stupid?
I want a universal IM client that can connect to ICQ, AIM, Yahoo, MSN, etc. and let me chat with whomever I want. Now, not to limit progress, I wouldn't mind if I could only use some special features with those other users using the same service as me (ICQ, etc.).. but passing text messages between clients using a standardized protocol can't be *that* bloody hard.
Can you imagine if phone companies were like that? You'd need a different, special phone and phone line for anyone that wasn't the same service as you. No way that would happen or would be tolerated (although I'm sure that the phone companies would love it, captive audience and all that).
Oh, I do encourage lesbianism. I don't encourage stupidity, and her post was stupid. The fact that she is a fat cow and could never get up onto a surf board makes it even more idiotic.
A few weeks ago, a friend of mine and I were sharing some pictures (ahem) and we were getting pretty bloody slow upload/download speeds. So a quick traceroute later showed that I was sending my packets to new york and they were coming back across the atlantic to him.
Not so bad until I tell you that I live in Israel, and he lives four houses down the street.
I think that 3dFX should sell off it's plants and go back to being just a chip designer that leases it's tech to anyone that wants to use it. There are a couple of good reasons for doing so:
1. so much of their resources are being funneled into production and sucked away from design. Put it all into design and a new marketing/sales department to sell it to every PCB manufactur they can.
2. By selling the chips to many manufacturers, 3dfx can saturate the market with their chips all that much faster. Think about it: there are more chips on more different boards, how can this be bad for 3dfx?
I just thought of this: Levitation. In the future (ha!) we're almost sure to have some sort of workable, cheap anti-grav. Imagine if it was controlled by someone's mind.
And it's too bad that because of all this nonsense going on here in the middle east,the US embassy here in Israel is shutdown and my citizenship will not likely get finished before the elections. Which is a real pity because I would very much like to exercise my right (well, not yet anyways) to vote.
That my vote would be completely wasted is another point completely. I would vote because it would be my right, nay, my mandatory service to the country. It's the only say that I have, and if I don't use it, it's the same as if I never had it.
And what is a government that doesn't allow it's people to have a say in it?
Slashdot Mirror
Ya, man, Pot Kettle Black.
:)
Can you imagine the riots of geeks if the first 50K slashdot accounts were erased by some punkass cracker?
Man, what a heyday the media would have with that one.
Rami
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I'm not so sure that you are right.
;-). I think that Freenet's biggest advantage is that it is a second chance to do a lot of things that the internet did badly the first time over again: like DNS and domain names, etc. I would love to see a system of DNS built on
Something that really caught me eye when I read the article was that the author was not pushing Freenet as some sort of application, but more as a platform (or, as I understand it a protocol) that applications can be built on top of.
You are right in the assumption that for Freenet to take off, it must garner a certain level of critical mass by having a 'killer app'. I think that you are wrong that Freenet does not have the chance to build this killer app. The fact of the matter is that the internet today is, as a general rule, moderately worthless as a repository for information. It is held back by lawyers, bad technology, stupid people, and time-suckers like slashdot (j/k about that last one..
"[snip]...undermining authority to promulgating porn and depravity"
And this changed when, Jon?
Rami
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You must mean this article in which they talk about choosing the story to run with and how there will be 6 fight scenes in the movie.
Yawn.
Rami
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That's funny: I don't live in the US. Why would you suppose that I do. Oh ya, you must be an american.
Is right here.
Call me a bigot, but if this guy codes C/C++ like he does HTML, you will NEVER see this project get off of the ground. Ick.
Rami
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Uhm, not really. The last two cellular phones that I bought were $325 (Nokia 5120) and $300 (Motorola Timeport, which BTW sucks ass). Having all of the functionality of a PDA and internet on a screen that you can actually use, plus the pen interface is WELL worth the extra $200.
Rami
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Hear hear!
I used to spend DAYS playing SimCity 2000 and an obscure game called castle (maybe castles, or some variation) that I, uhm, borrowed from my friend.
Those were the days. *sigh*
Rami
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Too true. And load times aren't a problem for me simply because I leave the thing on all the time. It's a file server after all.
It has no CPU fan, a HUGE heatsink (those 233Mhz chips heat up!) and some home-made holes on the case for ventilation. I suppose that if I wanted to, I could rig up a custom box and hide the thing away, but I don't mind the slight eyesore (actually, it blends right into my apartment.. ick) so it just sits out in the open.
Rami
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Indeed. The decoder card that I use came with the Creative DVD kit that I bought for ~$110. It decodes beautifully quickly, and the TV out is on an ancient ATI all-in-wonder card that is sufficiently good for watching movies and such. You can get one of these cards for what, $10?
Rami
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Actually, I meant P1 233. Oops. Sorry.
Rami
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This may make me sound like a complete ass, but I have the perfect DVD/CD/CD-R/CD-RW/MP3/VCD player for you: your computer.
That's what I do I have an older box, a P1-266, hooked up to my TV and sound system. I can play just about any format that a fancy-shmancy one-for-all device can, and at the same time, I can have it run as a nice fileserver for my MP3s. It cost about 300-400 bucks to set up, including the cables, nic, DVD, etc. You can't ask for more than that, man.
Rami
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My apologies for the stupid moderator that burned your karma: you should have gotten +5 insightful.
Perhaps you are right: thinking up new features for a non-existant search software is a waste of both our time, and the software developers time.
Perhaps not. Think about it this way, by my building such a list it helps the engineers in two ways: it shows that I support their software enough that I want to contribute in any way that I can (I can't code for balls), and perhaps I can think of something, as a user, that they may not have thought of. Are either of these things bad?
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Rami
What is really holding freenet back is the complete lack of a really sound search architecture. It's granted that in any system, only the top 5-10 percent will have a high enough bandwidth and reliabilty rating to be trusted in any long-term sense.
What I want in a freenet search engine:
1) List of hits.
2) Hits ranked by previous reliability ratings.
3) Size of Key.
4) Speed of node.
I also wouldn't mind ping times to node, current connections to node, etc.
Anyone else out there want to boff up some more suggestions? Perhaps a "Requested items list" could be hammered out and sent to the nice people at http://freenet.sourceforge.net/.
Rami
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Well, it's definately calming to know that us poor software engineers have some journalists in our pockets. I guess the corporations can't own EVERYTHING.
Right?
(This post may reflect my general distaste for corporations, the media, and everything in general. Then again, it may not.)
Thanks, actually, I have a mac. :)
It's a Powerbook 233.. a bit on the slow side to run Mac OSX.
Rami
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So what? Let me build a tiny scenario here for you: I have buddies from all over the world using all sorts of different programs to chat on all sorts of platforms. In order for me to see who's online and whatnot, I have to have 3 or 4 applications open and build 3-4 databases to keep up with everyone.
.. but passing text messages between clients using a standardized protocol can't be *that* bloody hard.
Does this strike anyone a fucking stupid?
I want a universal IM client that can connect to ICQ, AIM, Yahoo, MSN, etc. and let me chat with whomever I want. Now, not to limit progress, I wouldn't mind if I could only use some special features with those other users using the same service as me (ICQ, etc.)
Can you imagine if phone companies were like that? You'd need a different, special phone and phone line for anyone that wasn't the same service as you. No way that would happen or would be tolerated (although I'm sure that the phone companies would love it, captive audience and all that).
Rami
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Oh, I do encourage lesbianism. I don't encourage stupidity, and her post was stupid. The fact that she is a fat cow and could never get up onto a surf board makes it even more idiotic.
And at least I have the guts to post logged in.
Rami
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Dude, that's nothing.
A few weeks ago, a friend of mine and I were sharing some pictures (ahem) and we were getting pretty bloody slow upload/download speeds. So a quick traceroute later showed that I was sending my packets to new york and they were coming back across the atlantic to him.
Not so bad until I tell you that I live in Israel, and he lives four houses down the street.
Yikes.
Rami
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I think that 3dFX should sell off it's plants and go back to being just a chip designer that leases it's tech to anyone that wants to use it. There are a couple of good reasons for doing so:
1. so much of their resources are being funneled into production and sucked away from design. Put it all into design and a new marketing/sales department to sell it to every PCB manufactur they can.
2. By selling the chips to many manufacturers, 3dfx can saturate the market with their chips all that much faster. Think about it: there are more chips on more different boards, how can this be bad for 3dfx?
nVidia does it, why can't 3dfx?
Rami
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I just thought of this: Levitation. In the future (ha!) we're almost sure to have some sort of workable, cheap anti-grav. Imagine if it was controlled by someone's mind.
Effective artificial telekenisis.
Excellent!
Rami
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Ya man, that's no joke.
Rami
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Ya, talk about getting a relationship off to a rocky start.
*SMACK*!.
[Moderators: puns are funny, and this is not offtopic. Reply instead of vaguly moderating, please.]
Rami
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True.
And it's too bad that because of all this nonsense going on here in the middle east,the US embassy here in Israel is shutdown and my citizenship will not likely get finished before the elections. Which is a real pity because I would very much like to exercise my right (well, not yet anyways) to vote.
That my vote would be completely wasted is another point completely. I would vote because it would be my right, nay, my mandatory service to the country. It's the only say that I have, and if I don't use it, it's the same as if I never had it.
And what is a government that doesn't allow it's people to have a say in it?
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Rami
This just says it all.
Rami
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