And when they conspired with others to commit a crime did it also become a RICO crime? (I must admit I don't know what the hurdle is to make something RICO)
I'm left wondering the same thing... I would really like to see a weeks jail time for some Uber managers, contractors and employees involved.
Seriously, as an employee organizing this shit you have responsibility...
...they could end up facing RICO charges as a criminal syndicate.
I really hope the prosecutors office opens a case, and jails an Uber CEO. The alternative taxi services are great, but if they don't fall in line, they'll be regulated as tightly as taxies..
The kind of thinking that leads to this kind of dishonesty is why the taxi industry has been so tightly regulated for so long.
If they're willing to do this to each other, to cost each other money, imagine what they're willing to do to you, the fare, who have money for them to take.
Exactly... It's beyond my comprehension why Uber is this stupid... This kind of move is exactly what will get them prohibited.
Besides there is plenty of room for growth through the simple act of providing a better service than taxis...
If I was Uber or Lyft management, I would not dare this... and I would strike very hard against any employee or driver who even remotely annoyed or interfered with taxis and other competing services. This is just stupidity beyond comprehension...
Respect for the dead starts with not spreading their demise to every curious onlooker.
Thank you... That's spot on...
And for all those using the "you-can't-control-the-internet" argument, you're right we can't... But I respect google for trying to control their portion of it (ie. youtube).
I'd totally rather than the article about Nimrod stay, and anyone who doesn't like it can fuck off and visit some other web site.
I can't tell if the people who modded you insightful were being sarcastic...:)
Okay, joke aside... Statements like everybody else can just **** of because something you wanted to read about was marked for deletion. Is part of the problem.
Wikipedia editors and can't get every decision right... If nimrod (which btw, think I've heard about before) continues it's growth, then I'm sure it'll eventually be featured on wikipedia.
Note, I didn't say the current decision is right, but give them a break. But give it time, and bring up again (don't be an edit warrior)
Also drop the " censor, censor, censor" rhetoric... You are free to publish this anywhere else. Why don't you just make a site with rejected wikipedia articles, where people can work on them till wikipedia is ready to accept them.
Why is this a surprise?..... When I go to a store, any store, they try and sell me more stuff.
If you go the service desk for any reasons (the equivalent of calling tech support) the personal there is not instructed to try and sell you more stuff:)
The license revocation is on the copy of the software that wasn't distributed in compliance with the license.
Interesting interpretation... but I don't think copy right works on a per copy basis....
From GPLv2:
Any attempt
otherwise to copy, modify, sublicense or distribute the Program is
void, and will automatically terminate your rights under this License.
Your rights under this license... is the only right you have to distribute the software. I don't see how you get a new license every time you make a copy, as you explicitly lost all rights to make copies and distribute the software.
I don't even think you'll be allowed to distribute derivative works, as these are again composed of elements for which your rights have been terminated.
So, the FBI is already making the case for, "We need full monitoring and control intervention capability for everybody's new cars, because terrorists."
They can either take away your guns and high explosives... or put a dead-switch in your robot car... What is crazy Americans going to pick?
even in a big Regulatory system with most basic "don't get in a crash" you may end up in a place where it needs to pick from a choice of crash choices even ones like may do damage but low chance of injury vs say try a move that may have a 5% chance of being crash free.
This is not going to happen if the first or second generation car... And then, if you set your car to "save my life above all else", then you'll probably get on hell of beating in court when your car put the other guy in a wheelchair to avoid you getting a little scratch...
Either way, this is not going to happen, and if it does, let's deal with it then, for now this is just American paranoia as usual.
Of course not, otherwise we would discover all the cover passports of the employess of three letter agencies.
Also foreign agencies would be able to index all american citizen... For once, it seems like your government is doing something to protect your privacy.
The odds the court would require them to release the source for everything under the GPL is almost laughably absurd.
Agree... But terms of the GPL says that if you violated it the license is revoked.
By my interpretation that means that once violated you don't have a license, and complying with GPL terms after the fact has no effect.
Thus, the case is reduced to somebody using software for which they don't have a license.
I'm pretty sure bringing yourself into compliance won't change the fact that the license was revoked. But most vendors might be willing to extend a new GPL license to you, if you comply with the terms - just as a way to end the case.
Yes, we really should rank pages using the "universal-relevance-attribute" on the root element...
Who says that page with more incoming links is relevant? It all depends on the context... People searching to buy should definitely only be guided to HTTPS protected site, right?
Fact is that HTTPS implies that the author is actively maintaining the site. With at least some effort.
Also odds are that a malicious site is more likely not to have SSL, it cost money per domain and the scam sites are usually deployed on many different domain names...
but meeting the bare minimum requirements doesn't earn somebody commendation from me.
How often do hear news stories about leaks with encrypted passwords that are properly salted?:)
How often does anybody admit a possible leak, when there is no evidence anybody downloaded the database dump...?
Really, how often do you hear about things like this, if discovered internally?
I agree, it's the decent thing to do, but I don't think you can expect this level of detail, openness and honesty from commercial players.
I can't imagine any organization that wouldn't sweep this under the rug, after all it was discovered internally.
It makes me wonder why the hell they aren't doing any better.
Avoiding a leak would certainly have been preferred. But mistakes happens, processes fails.
Please tell me you're trolling and not really this ignorant.
Please enlighten me... At wells fargo they have a bill pay system, they tell me that I enter the amount and then they will send an actual physical check by email.
I have no doubt it's a physical check because one of the companies I sent it to lost it for a few weeks, and had to do an "internal search" for it..
This service can send checks periodically, but only for fixed amounts. So I can't pay utilities or anything that varies.
My cable, electric, water, trash, phone, Netflix, credit cards, etc. can all be paid electronically,
I pay netflix and phone electronically using a debit card. Credit card I managed to get the back to setup automatic payment for, but they told me that they had to send an internal fax (in 2014 that constitutes institutional incompetence) and that they couldn't promise it would be setup, and thus recommended that I called back a week later to verify this setup (that was with bank of america).
The I manage to pay my rent electronically (but manually), by giving them my check numbers... So that's also check - just a virtual check.
They do have automatic payment using virtual checks too, but the EULA says things like weird dates where I can't set it up, and specifically says a day of month and timeframe within which they have the system under maintenance, and because of this the system basically has undefined behaviour in that timeframe. That is what is says, not that the system is down, but that whatever I do in that timeframe they take no responsibility for. That's institutional incompetence, that is beyond my understanding.
Oh, my electric company also has some site for setting up automatic payment using virtual checks, but the site is so sketchy and I cannot validate the authenticity of anything. Also you need to keep in mind that the banks zero-liability only covers you if you didn't give authority to transact, if authority to transact was given or implied, there is no coverage regardless of the amount (wells fargo and band of america).
So you signed up for e-billing, which if it's like my local utility, sends you an email every month with an electronic copy of the bill basically saying "Hey, you have $xxx due, log in and pay it by this date". And then...what? Just ignored it or figured you were getting free power?
They did send me an email but the language was unclear and ambiguous... So I decided not to borther with it. And no I never check my account to see what goes in and out, if the amounts are less than 100 USD... I tend to ignore it, when I go through my statement.
"Past due" is meaningless. Anybody who has run a business knows that nobody pays bills on time, neither yourself nor clients or customers.
How can you?
Seriously, I moved to the US last year... and I'm shocked that I can't pay my bills electronically and automatically... WTF?
I have never used a check before coming to the US, no wonder people end up in collections because of wrong addresses, etc.
They other day I just found out that I hadn't payed my electricity bill for 3 months, because apparent that's not what an ebill does...
The level of institutional incompetence in the US is astonishing... Most things are so broken, inefficient and stuck in the 60ties... tsk, tsk.
Microsoft employees aren't good at anything but being Microsoft employees. They're just not qualified to do anything else.
That's funny... but I doubt it's true. Many MS employees provides support or work on projects for other companies... And they will surely be in demand, you're basically giving up highly qualified Microsoft experts.
While I personally, would like to avoid touching Microsoft services and products, let's just admit they are a giant, and other companies will continue to rely on Microsoft products. Just, think of the all the share-point plugins and what not...
Hmm, that's interesting... I would think that if ICANN knowingly continues to conduct business with a partner known to employ fraud then ICANN is a co-conspirator to fraud.
Hence, it would be illegal for ICANN to honor its contract, forcing them to terminate it. Regardless, of what the contract states.
I mean, no judge in his right mind will convict ICANN of contract breach, if the other party is abusing the powers delegated to them for criminal activities.
At least that was my two cents (I'm just applying common sense here)...
The Ukrainian government isn't prohibiting access to the site. Ukrainian militants are.
Nobody, says the militants aren't at fault... Only that the US isn't much better in it's own.... And no, we don't have to get decades back to find examples of civilians more or less deliberately killed by the US in non-combat zones (well, unless you're delusional enough to declare the entire middle east for a combat zone).
That said, I think it would be reasonable for Ukraine to request UN peacekeeping forces to guard and investigate the accident.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
True, until civilians are targed... Although this was supposedly a mistake.
Anyways, there was absolute no reason to be using anti aircraft missile systems... it's not like the rebels have been bombed or anything.
Which would be of doubtful legality... something about proportionality...
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And when they conspired with others to commit a crime did it also become a RICO crime? (I must admit I don't know what the hurdle is to make something RICO)
I'm left wondering the same thing... I would really like to see a weeks jail time for some Uber managers, contractors and employees involved.
Seriously, as an employee organizing this shit you have responsibility...
...they could end up facing RICO charges as a criminal syndicate.
I really hope the prosecutors office opens a case, and jails an Uber CEO. The alternative taxi services are great, but if they don't fall in line, they'll be regulated as tightly as taxies..
The kind of thinking that leads to this kind of dishonesty is why the taxi industry has been so tightly regulated for so long.
If they're willing to do this to each other, to cost each other money, imagine what they're willing to do to you, the fare, who have money for them to take.
Exactly... It's beyond my comprehension why Uber is this stupid... This kind of move is exactly what will get them prohibited.
Besides there is plenty of room for growth through the simple act of providing a better service than taxis...
If I was Uber or Lyft management, I would not dare this... and I would strike very hard against any employee or driver who even remotely annoyed or interfered with taxis and other competing services. This is just stupidity beyond comprehension...
This is seriously shit your CS 100 or 200-level teacher SHOULD have taught you, if you got a CS degree.
A CS professor shouldn't teach you to "never say never"... just ask for a formal proof :)
Especially, if you're claiming that P != NP or the like...
So all that "slippery slope" shit from 10 years ago doesn't seem so stupid now, does it?
As one of those sheep 10 years ago.. I would like to apologizes.
After Snowden my view of US intelligence efforts changed dramatically.
Respect for the dead starts with not spreading their demise to every curious onlooker.
Thank you... That's spot on...
And for all those using the "you-can't-control-the-internet" argument, you're right we can't... But I respect google for trying to control their portion of it (ie. youtube).
Unless you want to do a journalist job... You need a reporter you can trust to present the story without too much bias... That's very hard today...
I'd totally rather than the article about Nimrod stay, and anyone who doesn't like it can fuck off and visit some other web site.
I can't tell if the people who modded you insightful were being sarcastic... :)
Okay, joke aside... Statements like everybody else can just **** of because something you wanted to read about was marked for deletion. Is part of the problem.
Wikipedia editors and can't get every decision right... If nimrod (which btw, think I've heard about before) continues it's growth, then I'm sure it'll eventually be featured on wikipedia.
Note, I didn't say the current decision is right, but give them a break. But give it time, and bring up again (don't be an edit warrior)
Also drop the " censor, censor, censor" rhetoric... You are free to publish this anywhere else. Why don't you just make a site with rejected wikipedia articles, where people can work on them till wikipedia is ready to accept them.
Why is this a surprise? ..... When I go to a store, any store, they try and sell me more stuff.
If you go the service desk for any reasons (the equivalent of calling tech support) the personal there is not instructed to try and sell you more stuff :)
The license revocation is on the copy of the software that wasn't distributed in compliance with the license.
Interesting interpretation... but I don't think copy right works on a per copy basis....
From GPLv2:
Any attempt otherwise to copy, modify, sublicense or distribute the Program is void, and will automatically terminate your rights under this License.
Your rights under this license... is the only right you have to distribute the software. I don't see how you get a new license every time you make a copy, as you explicitly lost all rights to make copies and distribute the software.
I don't even think you'll be allowed to distribute derivative works, as these are again composed of elements for which your rights have been terminated.
Agree... Also it's probably more sane for restrict access to high explosives, as oppose to consider availability for self-driving cars a problem :)
So, the FBI is already making the case for, "We need full monitoring and control intervention capability for everybody's new cars, because terrorists."
They can either take away your guns and high explosives... or put a dead-switch in your robot car... What is crazy Americans going to pick?
even in a big Regulatory system with most basic "don't get in a crash" you may end up in a place where it needs to pick from a choice of crash choices even ones like may do damage but low chance of injury vs say try a move that may have a 5% chance of being crash free.
This is not going to happen if the first or second generation car... And then, if you set your car to "save my life above all else", then you'll probably get on hell of beating in court when your car put the other guy in a wheelchair to avoid you getting a little scratch...
Either way, this is not going to happen, and if it does, let's deal with it then, for now this is just American paranoia as usual.
A practical joke? Are you joking? C++ is not designed so that every feature must be learned and used.
Agree... if someone wants to use STL to create a DSL, I say we let them shoot their own foot :)
Of course not, otherwise we would discover all the cover passports of the employess of three letter agencies.
Also foreign agencies would be able to index all american citizen... For once, it seems like your government is doing something to protect your privacy.
The odds the court would require them to release the source for everything under the GPL is almost laughably absurd.
Agree... But terms of the GPL says that if you violated it the license is revoked.
By my interpretation that means that once violated you don't have a license, and complying with GPL terms after the fact has no effect.
Thus, the case is reduced to somebody using software for which they don't have a license.
I'm pretty sure bringing yourself into compliance won't change the fact that the license was revoked. But most vendors might be willing to extend a new GPL license to you, if you comply with the terms - just as a way to end the case.
Yes, we really should rank pages using the "universal-relevance-attribute" on the root element...
Who says that page with more incoming links is relevant? It all depends on the context... People searching to buy should definitely only be guided to HTTPS protected site, right?
Fact is that HTTPS implies that the author is actively maintaining the site. With at least some effort.
Also odds are that a malicious site is more likely not to have SSL, it cost money per domain and the scam sites are usually deployed on many different domain names...
but meeting the bare minimum requirements doesn't earn somebody commendation from me.
How often do hear news stories about leaks with encrypted passwords that are properly salted? :)
How often does anybody admit a possible leak, when there is no evidence anybody downloaded the database dump...?
Really, how often do you hear about things like this, if discovered internally?
I agree, it's the decent thing to do, but I don't think you can expect this level of detail, openness and honesty from commercial players.
I can't imagine any organization that wouldn't sweep this under the rug, after all it was discovered internally.
It makes me wonder why the hell they aren't doing any better.
Avoiding a leak would certainly have been preferred. But mistakes happens, processes fails.
Most checking accounts (from every bank I've dealt with) have free, automatic bill pay
But only works for fixed amount.
Please tell me you're trolling and not really this ignorant.
Please enlighten me... At wells fargo they have a bill pay system, they tell me that I enter the amount and then they will send an actual physical check by email.
I have no doubt it's a physical check because one of the companies I sent it to lost it for a few weeks, and had to do an "internal search" for it..
This service can send checks periodically, but only for fixed amounts. So I can't pay utilities or anything that varies.
My cable, electric, water, trash, phone, Netflix, credit cards, etc. can all be paid electronically,
I pay netflix and phone electronically using a debit card. Credit card I managed to get the back to setup automatic payment for, but they told me that they had to send an internal fax (in 2014 that constitutes institutional incompetence) and that they couldn't promise it would be setup, and thus recommended that I called back a week later to verify this setup (that was with bank of america).
The I manage to pay my rent electronically (but manually), by giving them my check numbers... So that's also check - just a virtual check.
They do have automatic payment using virtual checks too, but the EULA says things like weird dates where I can't set it up, and specifically says a day of month and timeframe within which they have the system under maintenance, and because of this the system basically has undefined behaviour in that timeframe. That is what is says, not that the system is down, but that whatever I do in that timeframe they take no responsibility for. That's institutional incompetence, that is beyond my understanding.
Oh, my electric company also has some site for setting up automatic payment using virtual checks, but the site is so sketchy and I cannot validate the authenticity of anything. Also you need to keep in mind that the banks zero-liability only covers you if you didn't give authority to transact, if authority to transact was given or implied, there is no coverage regardless of the amount (wells fargo and band of america).
So you signed up for e-billing, which if it's like my local utility, sends you an email every month with an electronic copy of the bill basically saying "Hey, you have $xxx due, log in and pay it by this date". And then...what? Just ignored it or figured you were getting free power?
They did send me an email but the language was unclear and ambiguous... So I decided not to borther with it. And no I never check my account to see what goes in and out, if the amounts are less than 100 USD... I tend to ignore it, when I go through my statement.
"Past due" is meaningless. Anybody who has run a business knows that nobody pays bills on time, neither yourself nor clients or customers.
How can you?
Seriously, I moved to the US last year... and I'm shocked that I can't pay my bills electronically and automatically... WTF?
I have never used a check before coming to the US, no wonder people end up in collections because of wrong addresses, etc.
They other day I just found out that I hadn't payed my electricity bill for 3 months, because apparent that's not what an ebill does...
The level of institutional incompetence in the US is astonishing... Most things are so broken, inefficient and stuck in the 60ties... tsk, tsk.
No disabling Canvas tracking and they even included Go to about:config and set "webgl.disabled" to true.
It's not perfect... But from what I can understand this will atleast mitigate the issue: http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~hovav/...
Either way, this does indeed seems like a very hard problem. And disabling canvas might not be enough. See the article from before.
Microsoft employees aren't good at anything but being Microsoft employees. They're just not qualified to do anything else.
That's funny... but I doubt it's true. Many MS employees provides support or work on projects for other companies... And they will surely be in demand, you're basically giving up highly qualified Microsoft experts.
While I personally, would like to avoid touching Microsoft services and products, let's just admit they are a giant, and other companies will continue to rely on Microsoft products. Just, think of the all the share-point plugins and what not...
Hmm, that's interesting... I would think that if ICANN knowingly continues to conduct business with a partner known to employ fraud then ICANN is a co-conspirator to fraud.
Hence, it would be illegal for ICANN to honor its contract, forcing them to terminate it. Regardless, of what the contract states.
I mean, no judge in his right mind will convict ICANN of contract breach, if the other party is abusing the powers delegated to them for criminal activities.
At least that was my two cents (I'm just applying common sense here)...
The Ukrainian government isn't prohibiting access to the site. Ukrainian militants are.
Nobody, says the militants aren't at fault... Only that the US isn't much better in it's own.... And no, we don't have to get decades back to find examples of civilians more or less deliberately killed by the US in non-combat zones (well, unless you're delusional enough to declare the entire middle east for a combat zone).
That said, I think it would be reasonable for Ukraine to request UN peacekeeping forces to guard and investigate the accident.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
True, until civilians are targed... Although this was supposedly a mistake.
Anyways, there was absolute no reason to be using anti aircraft missile systems... it's not like the rebels have been bombed or anything. Which would be of doubtful legality... something about proportionality...