Hey man some of us are just not as educated as others, not your fault. Maybe your folks could have sent you to a better school.
why shooting innocent civilians, occupying a foreign country and whinging about how being deservedly shot at has anything to do with my freedom.
oh there was more... let me break this apart for you "shooting innocent civilians" this happens in war, if you had read my previous posts you would see I already addressed this topic.... I will not cover it again. Not my fault you didn't take notes during the last class I gave.
"occupyinga foreign country" again part of war, probly the biggest part of war, next to the killing of your enamis
"whining about how being deservedly shot at" not so much whining but reminding the yuppies *nudges you* out there that there are people getting shot at.
"has anything to do with my freedom." ok we will let the Muslim extremists trounce all over the USA and make your woman cover herself up, not talk unless she's is spoken to, always walk behind you, make you pray to Allah, grow a beard, and stop what your doing at certain times during the day to face Mecca and bow down to it. oooh and lets not forget if you were talking about the new leaders of the USA like you are talking about the soldiers, they would kill you.
Now, I can understand, if you were saying you got shot by rubber bullets by Jim Crow's goons on a civil rights march. Or got gassed while demanding the government try or release people who have been behind bars for years without trial. Or got shot while fighting for the right of self determination for the retched poor of the earth. I would really respect that, I really would.
Hmmmmm seams to me that we are giving the "right of self determination" to the people of Iraq......
I really, truly could understand your point, if your friend died while really fighting for civil liberties, justice and peace
See answer above
Instead, you are using those words to justify a war to pacify a country that doesn't want anything to do with you or the US army, and has absolutely nothing to do with any freedoms that Americans or Europeans may or may not have.
Yes because giving them the right to vote is sooooo pacifying them....
and just because it has no direct relation to the USA or EU dose not mean that people are not suffering, or are you even more narrow minded then your comments so far have lead me to believe.
A country that has fought against it's dicators and occupiers before, and are simply continuing to do so. They have every right to bear arms for self determination.
never mind that most of the average citizens of Iraq come out in to the streets and thank the soldiers, help the soldiers, and welcome the soldiers. Never mind it's only a small fraction of actual Iraq citizens that are currently fighting as the "insurgency". Why do you not hear about these things on the news? Its simple the news must still sell add space, more people watch the news when the news is bad, more people watching more money for the news companies. Talk to a real life actual soldier ask them about the people of Iraq. not on a message board I have ran in to many people that clamed to be US soldiers on message boards, being assholes, then when you ask them questions about there service they don't know anything. Then the truth comes out, they are not soldiers, just people that hate the war and want to give the soldiers bad names.
In fact, it would be the exact thing that you (or me even) would do if we were in the same situation. You would not for one second suffer a foreign occupation, and would think those not doing anything about it were betraying their country.
Again I say it is more outside people that have an interest in controlling Iraq then actual citizens of Iraq fighting the US
The following are the words of my good friend and combat veteran, who was reading over my shoulder and insisted on answering your post.
First and foremost let me explain something to you real fast I joined the United States Army to serve my country not die at the hands of a terrorist. That is who is blowing American soldiers to chunks of flesh, terrorists, the same ones who killed three thousand innocent Americans.
But I suppose I asked for that too you know so I could kill something. I am a Biomedical Engineer I fix medical equipment. How is that job asking to be shot at and blown up?
A very good friend of mine who just died, he was a medic he helped people live, and he died for it.
We didn't ask for it, in fact if you ask my wife and my daughter whether or not I asked for it they will also tell you hell no.
Its people like you who make me hate what I do, because of the mere fact that me out there getting shot at is what gives you the freedom to run your cowardly mouth at us. I didn't ask to be sent half way around the world from everything I know and love to be shot at living in the back of a truck or just as well under the stars.
These same people who are shooting at me will eventually be shooting at you or someone you love think about that the next time you bag on the United States Military we are the reason you can surf the internet and flap your very unintelligent gums about things you have no idea.
Your freedoms came from my blood, my friends' blood, my families' blood.
As far as acting like Nazis might want to retake High School history and see this one.
Your post has to be one of the most blatantly ignorant statements I have ever read but it is your opinion, and opinions are like assholes everyone's got one yours just stinks.
Your going to look at the GP and not tell me that Iraq is not implied?
Then you sir need to wake up and read the news.
The "just following orders" line makes no sense. Do you accept no responsibility for your own actions? Did you not choose to sign up? You can't use someone else as an excuse for your actions.
when push comes to shove the actions on the battle field, out side the initial order to "take that hill" ect..., are the decisions made at that moment, and are the sole property of the soldier
I signed up to protect the way of life we have in the USA.
But the decision to go to war is made way over the common soldiers head. Now if your going to talk about innocent civilians getting caught in the middle of a war, it is an unfortunate consequence of a necessary evil.
I would say by those numbers the civilian toll of this war is on a good track, as is the military toll in this war. We have learned for our experiences, we have learned how to reduce the number of civilian causalities by using more precise strikes, and reduce the military casualties by better training and equipment.
That brings this conversation full circle. This item will help the US soldiers in Iraq stay healthy and in the battle longer, not as much time will be spent in the hospital treating heat stroke and other heat related injuries.
If you would like to continue this conversation I will be happy to, but this topic dose not need more disruption like this in it. This topic is about the technology of war, not the politics. Feel free to e-mail me I have time this week.
Let me start with the fact you are such a W.I.M.P. that you won't even stand up to your own ideas (AKA: putting your name on your post)
Or the fact that you have directed your distaste for the Iraq war at completely the wrong people.
Don't like the war? Do not take it out on the soldiers, sailors, marines, or airmen; we did not ask to go to war, we did not ask to go to Iraq, take it out on the man that gave the order to do it. G.W. should be the brunt of your comments, my brothers in arms and I are just following orders
We did not swear an oath to bring freedom to the world, we swore an oath to protect the constitution of the United States ageist all enemies foreign and domestic.
So please, lay off the "sanctioned murders" crap and carry on with your life knowing that you can say that because the blood for my forefathers was shed to insure you have the freedom of speech.
BTW: you will notice I am willing to take a karma hit for my ideas, AND a lot more too.
I will take the Karma hit for this one.
1. At least I have the kohanas to put my name on a post.
2. The thrill of the prospect of getting the first post blinded me to my spelling errors
I was drawn like a moth to the flame!
Sadly my hopes and dreams have now been smashed to bits.
I have no other choice but to go OD on caffeine now
Thank you/. you have shown me my dreams will never come true
but all joaking aside
i warned everybody singing the prases for m$ anti-spyware this was going to happen.
cant trust them when they are in it for the $$$$$
"We have thoughts, but thoughts are fluid. You know, [humming]. And, then we assign a word to a thought, [clicks tongue]. And we're stuck with that word for that thought. So be careful with words. I like to think, yeah, the same words that hurt can heal. It's a matter of how you pick them.
There are some people that aren't into all the words. There are some people who would have you not use certain words. Yeah, there are 400,000 words in the English language, and there are seven of them that you can't say on television. What a ratio that is. 399,993 to seven. They must really be bad. They'd have to be outrageous, to be separated from a group that large. All of you over here, you seven. Bad words. That's what they told us they were, remember? 'That's a bad word.' 'Awwww.' There are no bad words. Bad thoughts. Bad Intentions.
And words, you know the seven don't you? Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker, and Tits, huh? Those are the heavy seven. Those are the ones that will infect your soul, curve your spine and keep the country from winning the war."
Words are words and words can not hurt, it's the intentions that matter.
I am sorry if I have trouble understanding
Hey man some of us are just not as educated as others, not your fault. Maybe your folks could have sent you to a better school.
why shooting innocent civilians, occupying a foreign country and whinging about how being deservedly shot at has anything to do with my freedom.
oh there was more... let me break this apart for you "shooting innocent civilians" this happens in war, if you had read my previous posts you would see I already addressed this topic.... I will not cover it again. Not my fault you didn't take notes during the last class I gave.
"occupyinga foreign country" again part of war, probly the biggest part of war, next to the killing of your enamis
"whining about how being deservedly shot at" not so much whining but reminding the yuppies *nudges you* out there that there are people getting shot at.
"has anything to do with my freedom." ok we will let the Muslim extremists trounce all over the USA and make your woman cover herself up, not talk unless she's is spoken to, always walk behind you, make you pray to Allah, grow a beard, and stop what your doing at certain times during the day to face Mecca and bow down to it. oooh and lets not forget if you were talking about the new leaders of the USA like you are talking about the soldiers, they would kill you.
Now, I can understand, if you were saying you got shot by rubber bullets by Jim Crow's goons on a civil rights march. Or got gassed while demanding the government try or release people who have been behind bars for years without trial. Or got shot while fighting for the right of self determination for the retched poor of the earth. I would really respect that, I really would.
Hmmmmm seams to me that we are giving the "right of self determination" to the people of Iraq......
I really, truly could understand your point, if your friend died while really fighting for civil liberties, justice and peace
See answer above
Instead, you are using those words to justify a war to pacify a country that doesn't want anything to do with you or the US army, and has absolutely nothing to do with any freedoms that Americans or Europeans may or may not have.
Yes because giving them the right to vote is sooooo pacifying them....
and just because it has no direct relation to the USA or EU dose not mean that people are not suffering, or are you even more narrow minded then your comments so far have lead me to believe.
A country that has fought against it's dicators and occupiers before, and are simply continuing to do so. They have every right to bear arms for self determination.
never mind that most of the average citizens of Iraq come out in to the streets and thank the soldiers, help the soldiers, and welcome the soldiers. Never mind it's only a small fraction of actual Iraq citizens that are currently fighting as the "insurgency". Why do you not hear about these things on the news? Its simple the news must still sell add space, more people watch the news when the news is bad, more people watching more money for the news companies. Talk to a real life actual soldier ask them about the people of Iraq. not on a message board I have ran in to many people that clamed to be US soldiers on message boards, being assholes, then when you ask them questions about there service they don't know anything. Then the truth comes out, they are not soldiers, just people that hate the war and want to give the soldiers bad names.
In fact, it would be the exact thing that you (or me even) would do if we were in the same situation. You would not for one second suffer a foreign occupation, and would think those not doing anything about it were betraying their country.
Again I say it is more outside people that have an interest in controlling Iraq then actual citizens of Iraq fighting the US
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The following are the words of my good friend and combat veteran, who was reading over my shoulder and insisted on answering your post.
First and foremost let me explain something to you real fast I joined the United States Army to serve my country not die at the hands of a terrorist. That is who is blowing American soldiers to chunks of flesh, terrorists, the same ones who killed three thousand innocent Americans.
But I suppose I asked for that too you know so I could kill something. I am a Biomedical Engineer I fix medical equipment. How is that job asking to be shot at and blown up?
A very good friend of mine who just died, he was a medic he helped people live, and he died for it.
We didn't ask for it, in fact if you ask my wife and my daughter whether or not I asked for it they will also tell you hell no.
Its people like you who make me hate what I do, because of the mere fact that me out there getting shot at is what gives you the freedom to run your cowardly mouth at us. I didn't ask to be sent half way around the world from everything I know and love to be shot at living in the back of a truck or just as well under the stars.
These same people who are shooting at me will eventually be shooting at you or someone you love think about that the next time you bag on the United States Military we are the reason you can surf the internet and flap your very unintelligent gums about things you have no idea.
Your freedoms came from my blood, my friends' blood, my families' blood.
As far as acting like Nazis might want to retake High School history and see this one.
Your post has to be one of the most blatantly ignorant statements I have ever read but it is your opinion, and opinions are like assholes everyone's got one yours just stinks.
When did the GP mention Iraq?
Your going to look at the GP and not tell me that Iraq is not implied?
Then you sir need to wake up and read the news.
The "just following orders" line makes no sense. Do you accept no responsibility for your own actions? Did you not choose to sign up? You can't use someone else as an excuse for your actions.
when push comes to shove the actions on the battle field, out side the initial order to "take that hill" ect..., are the decisions made at that moment, and are the sole property of the soldier
I signed up to protect the way of life we have in the USA.
But the decision to go to war is made way over the common soldiers head. Now if your going to talk about innocent civilians getting caught in the middle of a war, it is an unfortunate consequence of a necessary evil.
Let's talk about the cost of war
WW2 body count
ww1 body count
Iraq body count
I would say by those numbers the civilian toll of this war is on a good track, as is the military toll in this war. We have learned for our experiences, we have learned how to reduce the number of civilian causalities by using more precise strikes, and reduce the military casualties by better training and equipment.
That brings this conversation full circle. This item will help the US soldiers in Iraq stay healthy and in the battle longer, not as much time will be spent in the hospital treating heat stroke and other heat related injuries.
If you would like to continue this conversation I will be happy to, but this topic dose not need more disruption like this in it. This topic is about the technology of war, not the politics. Feel free to e-mail me I have time this week.
thank you I try my best
Hmmm where to start with this AC
Let me start with the fact you are such a W.I.M.P. that you won't even stand up to your own ideas (AKA: putting your name on your post)
Or the fact that you have directed your distaste for the Iraq war at completely the wrong people.
Don't like the war? Do not take it out on the soldiers, sailors, marines, or airmen; we did not ask to go to war, we did not ask to go to Iraq, take it out on the man that gave the order to do it. G.W. should be the brunt of your comments, my brothers in arms and I are just following orders
We did not swear an oath to bring freedom to the world, we swore an oath to protect the constitution of the United States ageist all enemies foreign and domestic.
So please, lay off the "sanctioned murders" crap and carry on with your life knowing that you can say that because the blood for my forefathers was shed to insure you have the freedom of speech.
BTW: you will notice I am willing to take a karma hit for my ideas, AND a lot more too.
you get +40 points of geekness you can add them to your INT score if you want
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Points to whoever knows the address
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No it is not!
I use http://www.voipbuster.com/
Personally found it is better then Skype
THE SPIRIT OF RADIO
"All this machinery
Making modern music
Can still be open-hearted
Not so coldly charted
It's really just a question
Of your honesty"
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So when are they releasing the Google bar for life.
D/L it right in to your head
Gives you a nice HUD
You can access maps to places as you wander around.
Thinking about getting a hotdog?
Google bar for life will highlight the nearest hotdog stands for you!
not only that but you can donate unused brain power to science (i think every politician needs that feature soooo much wasted brain power)
I will take the Karma hit for this one. 1. At least I have the kohanas to put my name on a post. 2. The thrill of the prospect of getting the first post blinded me to my spelling errors I was drawn like a moth to the flame! Sadly my hopes and dreams have now been smashed to bits. I have no other choice but to go OD on caffeine now Thank you /. you have shown me my dreams will never come true
never mind the first post comment..... chould have known i was not gotn to beat the clock. one more thing in life i have faled at.....
but all joaking aside i warned everybody singing the prases for m$ anti-spyware this was going to happen. cant trust them when they are in it for the $$$$$
"We have thoughts, but thoughts are fluid. You know, [humming]. And, then we assign a word to a thought, [clicks tongue]. And we're stuck with that word for that thought. So be careful with words. I like to think, yeah, the same words that hurt can heal. It's a matter of how you pick them.
There are some people that aren't into all the words. There are some people who would have you not use certain words. Yeah, there are 400,000 words in the English language, and there are seven of them that you can't say on television. What a ratio that is. 399,993 to seven. They must really be bad. They'd have to be outrageous, to be separated from a group that large. All of you over here, you seven. Bad words. That's what they told us they were, remember? 'That's a bad word.' 'Awwww.' There are no bad words. Bad thoughts. Bad Intentions.
And words, you know the seven don't you? Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker, and Tits, huh? Those are the heavy seven. Those are the ones that will infect your soul, curve your spine and keep the country from winning the war."
Words are words and words can not hurt, it's the intentions that matter.
So is it real crime? Or is it more of a vigilante justice?
The question boils down to why the attacks are happening; money, greed, power, or is it to right wrongs?
I think it's a little from column A, a little from column B
It started off as way to right wrongs, but then it went corporate
And like many things when it goes corporate it goes sour