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Google Toolbar for Firefox Released

fizz writes "Google has released their toolbar, available in 10 languages for the Firefox browser, and available for 3 operating systems (Windows, Mac and Linux). You can download it from the Google Toolbar homepage, and you can read the Google Blog for more information." Reported on recently here on Slashdot.

277 comments

  1. That's great and all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    But I think I speak for everyone on Slashdot when I ask when is Microsoft going to release the MSN Toolbar for Firefox?

    1. Re:That's great and all by Pantero+Blanco · · Score: 3, Funny

      Right after they get Microsoft Office and Outlook running on FreeBSD.

    2. Re:That's great and all by Rei · · Score: 3, Funny

      A million monkeys. A million keyboards. MSN Toolbar. Let it get in YOUR way!

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    3. Re:That's great and all by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 5, Funny

      A long time ago, in a Galaxy far far away, I actually had Word 6.0 running on Solaris 2.6/SPARC, under WABI, which provided a Windows 3.1 environment. It worked slowly, but other than that, pretty well. In fact, I got a macro virus, Concept1. Was weird for the guy running Solaris to be able to identify to the company (all 8 of us) that we had a Word macro virus. They started to scrub the fileservers and eventually traced it back to a Word doc from a vendor.

      Who says microsoft doesn't do cross platform, I got a cross platform virus people, years before java.

    4. Re:That's great and all by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Gee. I want ALL my software vendors to inject spyware into my browser as a component!

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    5. Re:That's great and all by minus_273 · · Score: 1

      you mean like this?

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    6. Re:That's great and all by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Also a long time ago in a Galaxy far far away, Microsoft released Word 5.1 for Unix. It ran under SCO OpenDesktop 2.0 (this was OldSCO). It also ran (not as well) under Interactive Unix SysV/386.

      This was a port of Word 5.0 for DOS.

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    7. Re:That's great and all by Ucklak · · Score: 1

      You know,
      Yahoo has a toolbar for FF,
      there is/was the PRGooglebar for FF,
      now Google has officially released a toolbar for FF,
      MSN is really last again and I wonder if they'll release a tool for FF for search.

      I also wonder if Google went ahead and did this to kind of force MS to support the competition.

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    8. Re:That's great and all by dicepackage · · Score: 2, Funny

      I am still waiting for Microsoft to release a version of Internet Explorer for Linux.

    9. Re:That's great and all by trekstar25 · · Score: 1

      To be perfectly honest, not having a Firefox toolbar doesn't make MSN last at all. To rank the search engines' toolbars, you still have to compare their features for IE, since IE is still the far-dominant webbrowser in terms of usage. I imagine the percentage of Firefox users that use any of those toolbars is extremely small, since most features are redundant.

      This is still a good step in the right direction, though, and will definitely raise Firefox awareness.

    10. Re:That's great and all by stfvon007 · · Score: 1

      One of the features on the Google toolbar for FireFox is a spellchecker. I know of a lot of slashdotters that could really use that (including me)

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    11. Re:That's great and all by spectre_240sx · · Score: 1

      Mac OS X != BSD.

    12. Re:That's great and all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I freaked out my co-workers when I fired up Excel 2000 on my linux workstation... And it actually performed better than Office 2003 bloated piece of (usefull and pretty mind you..) crap.

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    13. Re:That's great and all by minus_273 · · Score: 1

      really, what does one have to do to become a BSD?

      from apple:

      Darwin is the open source UNIX-based foundation of Mac OS X. Darwin integrates a number of technologies. Among the most important are the Mach 3.0 microkernel operating-system services, based on 4.4BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution), the high-performance networking facilities, and the support for multiple integrated file systems. Darwin also includes a number of command-line tools. Mac OS X developers can use Darwin to port UNIX/Linux applications and to create kernel extensions.

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    14. Re:That's great and all by Mozk · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why would you want to use an inferior product that's full of holes? There are many better alternatives.

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    15. Re:That's great and all by croddy · · Score: 1
      well, it would help if its filesystem layout looked more than vaguely like every other Unix and Unix-like OS in the world. Installing software in /sw is not something you have to do on a real Unix ... or even on most Unix knockoffs.

      one thing is for sure: if Mac OS X is a Unix OS, it's the one that's least like the others. to be sure, this arbitrary differentiation is something Apple consumers value, but it's just a headache for any developer who wants to support BSD *and* OS X.

    16. Re:That's great and all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm still waiting for people to stop using shitty MS products, but I guess we'll both have to be patient.

      ~nog_lorp

    17. Re:That's great and all by BestNicksRTaken · · Score: 1

      yeah, exactly what i was thinking - firefox prides itself on security and being free from the type of crap that "toolbars" put into your browser.

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    18. Re:That's great and all by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 1

      Why would you install under /sw?

      OSX has a perfectly functional /usr/local/bin just like any other Unix.

      The only issue I've found is that /etc is a symlink, and the dmg installer will wipe it if you try to put files in there... you need to tell it to put them in /private/etc instead.

    19. Re:That's great and all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would anyone actually use this? I have the google deskbar and it opens browser windows when I type in a URL, does google searches and a whole lot of customised searches (such as IMDB) by hitting a custom key combo.

      Why open up the browser first to search? Seems like a redundant link in the chain.

    20. Re:That's great and all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want a free Gmail account, go to http://isnoop.net/gmail/

    21. Re:That's great and all by croddy · · Score: 1
      here's a short sample of the filesystem chaos that goes on in OS X.

      it's got a long way to go before it's in the same class as the *BSD's.

    22. Re:That's great and all by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1
      here's a short sample of the filesystem chaos that goes on in OS X.

      That seem more like an example of chaos at MacAfee.

    23. Re:That's great and all by ahaning · · Score: 1

      Google told isnoop to take it down so he did.

      Now we all have 50 stagnating invites and no friends. :(

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    24. Re:That's great and all by Paolo+DF · · Score: 1

      In the same galaxy, I ran Micro$oft WRITE on my Atari ST, and it was the only program that continuously accessed the disk (a 720KB floppy) writing tons of temporary files, eventually clogging the system.

      But it happened at least one generation before yours.

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    25. Re:That's great and all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Among the most important are the Mach 3.0 microkernel

      There, you just answered it yourself. OS X uses the Mach kernel, not a BSD kernel, so it's obviously not BSD!

  2. 404 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So now there is something to see there, an error message. 404 Page Not Found, LIARS!

  3. Technically, it's not a dupe.... by TrentL · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since the article earlier today said they were "about to" release the toolbar.

    1. Re:Technically, it's not a dupe.... by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Funny

      And, tomorrow we'll have "Google Firefox Toolbar released yesterday!". Then, the day after, "Two Days Since Firefox Google Toolbar Released". Then, in a weeks time "Major Security Issues with Google Toolbar for Firefox." Then a couple of days later "Security Issues Fixed In New Release of Google Toolbar for Firefox." Then a month from now "New Book About Using Google Toolbar For Firefox, ISDN#82389234"

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    2. Re:Technically, it's not a dupe.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You got all the way to the end and then blew it with ISDN instead of ISBN.

    3. Re:Technically, it's not a dupe.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have a new theory about dupes.

      Slashdot is starting to suck so bad that the userbase is not longer submitting worthy stories (as witnessed by the crappy articles that have been posted lately). But the problem is even worse than first suspected. The submission rate is so low, that they must create filler inbetween the crap stories. This filler usually consists of dupes of the almost good to fairly good stories.

    4. Re:Technically, it's not a dupe.... by cortana · · Score: 1

      Hey! That's my ISDN line's number! (And also my briefcase combination...)

    5. Re:Technically, it's not a dupe.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      Then a month from now "New Book About Using Google Toolbar For Firefox, ISDN#82389234"

      International Standard Dupe Number?
    6. Re:Technically, it's not a dupe.... by Armadni+General · · Score: 1

      How can it be your ISDN line number? It's eight digits.

    7. Re:Technically, it's not a dupe.... by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Funny

      "How can it be your ISDN line number? It's eight digits."

      Checksum, duh.

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    8. Re:Technically, it's not a dupe.... by shmlco · · Score: 1
      The sad part is that it seems as if most of the stories on /. these days are rehashes of articles that were just released on Wired and the NYT.

      Remember long ago when they appeared here first, and the other rags copied the /. stories the next day?

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    9. Re:Technically, it's not a dupe.... by winkydink · · Score: 1

      82 is the country code.

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    10. Re:Technically, it's not a dupe.... by Chasuk · · Score: 1

      I'm testing the spellchecker now...

      Now I have spell-checking in Slashdot! Yay!

    11. Re:Technically, it's not a dupe.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      funny, cuz its true

    12. Re:Technically, it's not a dupe.... by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 1

      Depending on the country, some phone numbers are 8 digits.

      Mine is 7...

    13. Re:Technically, it's not a dupe.... by crumley · · Score: 1
      Remember long ago when they appeared here first, and the other rags copied the /. stories the next day?
      No, I don't remember that, because that time never really existed. Some stories still make it big first on slashdot (usually about an obscure web site or mailing list flame war), but slashdot has always grabbed more stories from mainstream news sites than it has sent to them.
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    14. Re:Technically, it's not a dupe.... by AstroDrabb · · Score: 1

      There has been a spell checking extension for Firefox for a while now. It is called SpellBound (Spellchecker for Firefox and the Mozilla Suite).

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    15. Re:Technically, it's not a dupe.... by Armadni+General · · Score: 1

      Oh, well, I should have checked his website and e-mail address, wherein the TLD is .co.uk. They are eight digits in the UK...I believe.

  4. Re:Poor, poor Zonk by ryanov · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is actually NOT a dupe. It was due to be released, and now has been. Is that why the sympathy?

  5. hhhmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chow?

  6. Its cool by ResQuad · · Score: 4, Informative

    The only problem I have with it is the doube google search box.

    1. Re:Its cool by richardablitt · · Score: 5, Informative

      You can always right click on one of the toolbars, go to customise (or customize), and drag off the other google box. It is kind of unnecessary, since firefox already has the search box and pop-up blocking installed, which were the two main features it added to IE. (I know there's more, but those were the main ones for me).

    2. Re:Its cool by jaypaulw · · Score: 1

      I have my firefox aranged where I've dropped the google search on the bookmarks toolbar and then have that toolbar disabled, the bookmarks is on the navigation toolbar, of which I have plenty o' room.

    3. Re:Its cool by Cassanova · · Score: 1

      Just change the original one to search Amazon or something else for eg :-)

    4. Re:Its cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      You can remove the Firefox search box by right-clicking on the toolbar, clicking on Customize and dragging the search box into the Customize Toolbar window. Not very intuitive, may I say.

    5. Re:Its cool by ResQuad · · Score: 1

      Which of course I removed - thanks to everyone that replied. I also tried out the auto-linking. It does work as advertised. The spell check is rather nifty too. You can spell check even as little as what you type into the box on google.com (one line) or this entire post. (This Post spellchecked thanks to Google!)

    6. Re:Its cool by kv9 · · Score: 2

      The only problem I have with it is the doube google search box.

      get rid of it and do it the smart way.

      note to knee-jerkers: before you jump allover yourselves, no it does not defeat the purpose, because the google toolbar isnt just for searching, it has a lot of other goodness too.

    7. Re:Its cool by RicktheBrick · · Score: 1

      Now I can finally spell check my reply. I do not need to highlight my blog and paste it into my open office writer to do the spell check then correct any misspelled words and do the reverse by pasting it back into this page.

    8. Re:Its cool by XchristX · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Hey isn't this better?
      That way I can search multiple engines (incl google) w/out having an annoying extension slowing the browser down

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    9. Re:Its cool by owenb · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, know yore reply is guaranteed to bee prefect

    10. Re:Its cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have another bigger problem with it on Win XP - After installing the toolbar, Firefox's edit boxes, dropdown menus etc. all continually refresh and flicker - for e.g. The autocomplete drop down in address bar flickers while typing URLs.

      How can they ignore such visible problems?

    11. Re:Its cool by puck01 · · Score: 1

      Since this seems to be the bitch thread.

      My complaint is that I still use Windows 98se as my windows box, not XP. I guess I can't expect them to support a 7 year old OS, but it would be cool of them to do so. Oh well. The reasons to 'upgrade' are starting to add up.

    12. Re:Its cool by shellbeach · · Score: 1

      Now I can finally spell check my reply. I do not need to highlight my blog and paste it into my open office writer to do the spell check then correct any misspelled words and do the reverse by pasting it back into this page.

      Yeah, because nobody ever created a spellchecker extension for firefox before, such as SpellBound ... lucky Google came to the rescue, huh?

      And to think, there wasn't a dedicated Google search bar in firefox before, either ...

    13. Re:Its cool by JWeinraub · · Score: 0

      so change the firefox search. now i got google toolbar, i use wikipedia as default, though dictionary is handy. though i find i'll probably use php.net more and more, so i'll end up that being default.

  7. It works on Linux!! by utopicillusion · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It works on Linux, even on PPC ones. Finally, google released a product for Linux users.

    Does this mean that Google is going to migrate some more of their products from Google Labs http://labs.google.com/ on linux now?

    1. Re:It works on Linux!! by IntergalacticWalrus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Firefox extensions are written in their internal script (XUL), so unless someone does some stupid unportable shit (backslashes!!) they will run on any platform.

    2. Re:It works on Linux!! by n0-0p · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's not quite true; XUL is just the user interface markup. Mozilla (FF, TB, SM, etc.) extensions can be written in JavaScript or C/C++. The Thunderbird Enigmail extension, for example, contains numerous binary components and requires a seperate install per OS.

    3. Re:It works on Linux!! by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      . Just tested it on Firefox on Playstation 2 Linux. myself, wonder why they put that RH 8+ requirement on the page.

  8. Works in Linux by drsmack1 · · Score: 1

    I just installed in on Firefox 1.02 on Mandriva 2005 LE and it works great. I like it much better than googlebar.

    1. Re:Works in Linux by rapidweather · · Score: 1

      I put it on Firefox running in my knoppix remaster (see screenshots), and my only complaint is that it seems to take more processing power to start up firefox when it is restarted after the "installation", which went flawlessly. Seems to have a lot of interesting features. My test machine is an old HP Pavilion 6330, with 128 MB ram, and I did notice the cpu monitor on my toolbar take a hit when Firefox started up, so I'll have to see how that goes next time around.

  9. Foogle-Gox and the future: by Nomihn0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Will this tool bar replace the default Firefox Google homepage? Sponsorship is what it's all about, after all, no? Do you really think that Firefox developers will tolerate such redundancy? My bet is on the discontinuation of the homepage paired with a default Google Toolbar installation.

    1. Re:Foogle-Gox and the future: by enosys · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If we were talking about a non-free browser, the company making the browser could probably earn some money by including another company's toolbar. They could probably even earn money by setting a default home page. Is the Mozilla Foundation making money by making a Google page the default home page?

    2. Re:Foogle-Gox and the future: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is the Mozilla Foundation making money by making a Google page the default home page?

      Yes. They also make money from most of the built-in search engines. Though they claim that decisions are made with the user, not finances in mind (e.g. Google was already the default search engine before the revenue deal was struck).

      Would the Mozilla Foundation ever start inlcuding the Google Toolbar in Firefox builds by default? I don't think so. There would be too much backlash from users. If this backlash ever got too much, someone would just fork it and remove the Googleness.

      Chief Lizard Wrangler Mitchell Baker talked about commercial relationships a while back. She (not a typo) emphasised that while the Foundation may make deals regarding defaults etc. in the branded versions, they will never enter into an agreement that affects the actual code (e.g. adding - or removing - features because some company pays them to).

  10. Slashdot promotes spyware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Nice one guys.

    1. Re:Slashdot promotes spyware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      to Whomever knocked this as a troll. Keep in mind that the google toolbar when "advanced features" are turned on is in fact spyware, it sends the same thing that claria does back to the google servers. Not only that since it isn't a simple plaintext http string so what extra stuff is google sending? We will never know. If you don't care about the "advanced features" AKA pagerank, there are plenty of other toolbar firefox extensions out there and have been for probably more than a year, which makes this non-news. However google does pay slashdot (adwords), so you would expect that they would ask google "how high" when they say jump.

    2. Re:Slashdot promotes spyware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This AC speaks the truth. With the toolbar installed, Google knows which web page you are viewing. After the default install, one has to disable AutoLink, Spellcheck and Dictionary, and even then the page you are viewing will be sent to Google if you click on the "Cached Snapshot", "Backward Links" or "Similar Pages" features.

    3. Re:Slashdot promotes spyware by dameron · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...the page you are viewing will be sent to Google if you click on the "Cached Snapshot", "Backward Links" or "Similar Pages" features.

      Wow, imagine that, google needing to know which page you're viewing so it can 1) show you a cache of that page, 2) show links to the current page, or 3) show pages related to the one you're viewing.

      How on earth could they do this without knowing what page you're viewing?

    4. Re:Slashdot promotes spyware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft also pays Slashdot (advertising banners) so I'm curious where you think the frog-action is happening in that relationship.

    5. Re:Slashdot promotes spyware by greenegg77 · · Score: 1

      How on earth could they do this without knowing what page you're viewing?

      Wormholes? ESPML? Ooooh, I know - with Google Earth they can zoom in on your office and look at your porn with you!

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    6. Re:Slashdot promotes spyware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't seen any direct microsoft ads, perhaps there are some through the adwords, or some from a reseller, but never any from microsoft.

    7. Re:Slashdot promotes spyware by evilmrhenry · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wow, imagine that, google needing to know which page you're viewing so it can 1) show you a cache of that page, 2) show links to the current page, or 3) show pages related to the one you're viewing.

      How on earth could they do this without knowing what page you're viewing?


      By sending you the information for every page on the Internet, then allowing you to pick the page you want client-side, of course.

      (Note: may not be practical.)

    8. Re:Slashdot promotes spyware by mabinogi · · Score: 1

      then you're BLIND.

      There's everything from "Get The Facts" ads across the top to Visual Studio .NET ads in the big ad area in stories.

      They've had them for years...

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  11. Other toolbars? by Jaymaedae · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Does anyone have suggestions for other toolbars that are useful that work in Firefox? I am sure auto-complete is just scratching the surface. ( That's really all I use the google toolbar for anyway...in IE)

    1. Re:Other toolbars? by flossie · · Score: 1

      If you are a UK academic, the Athens toolbar is well worth having.

    2. Re:Other toolbars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Web developers. Makes debugging pages way easier, and it's interesting even if you don't make websites. Go to slashdot and run "outline->depreciated elements". Prepare to be amazed :)

    3. Re:Other toolbars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Preferences Toolbar (or prefbar) at http://prefbar.mozdev.org/ is very handy.
      It replaces my bookmarks toolbar and provides direct access to toggling various preferences.

    4. Re:Other toolbars? by _merlin · · Score: 1

      NetCraft (http://toolbar.netcraft.com/) is pretty useful. You can get an instant site report for any page you visit, as well as information on the geographic location, IP block owner and phishing risk rating. Before you laugh about the phishing risk rating, one of my co-workers, who used to work for an ISP and thinks he's l33t, got saved by it once.

    5. Re:Other toolbars? by JehCt · · Score: 0

      I like Search Status, which conserves space. It installs on the lower right corner of the window, and provides Google Pagerank, and Alexa traffic stats. Very handy for comparing different web sites to see relative traffic or PageRank. With Firefox, the other Google toolbar features are not too exciting.

      Also good for web developers: The Web Developer Extension

    6. Re:Other toolbars? by starling · · Score: 1

      A9 have a pretty good one. Works in Linux and Windows.

    7. Re:Other toolbars? by CustomizeGoogle · · Score: 1

      CustomizeGoogle now have more than 500000 downloads. #2 Popular downloaded extension at https://addons.mozilla.org/

      Features

      # uses Google Suggest when you search
      # adds links to competitors ("Try your search on Yahoo...")
      # rewrites links to point straight to the images in Google Images
      # removes image copying restrictions in Google Print
      # secures Gmail, switches to https
      # anonymize your Google userid (disabled by default)
      # removes ads (disabled by default)
      # adds a result counter in search result (disabled by default)
      # filters spammy websites from search results
      # add link to WayBack Machine (webpage history)
      # 5 locales: en-US, it-IT, sv-SE, de-DE, tr-TR, ja-JP

  12. Re:Firefox, that the other browser for windows rig by aapold · · Score: 1

    Its a linux/windows browser. It probably has more windows users, but a higher linux market %...

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  13. Google /.'ed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Whats this toolbar.google.com is /.'ed? How ironic!

  14. I've never seen google... by RayDude · · Score: 1

    Get slashdotted... Don't they have like mega bandwidth available? It took almost a minute for the page to load up. Got the toolbar though, will try it out next... Raydude

  15. Opera? by Gunnery+Sgt.+Hartman · · Score: 1

    When will it be released for Opera? You can search Google from Opera, but it doesn't have the highlighter and collapsable tree function that the toolbar has.

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  16. Other (Google) Firefox Extensions by The+boojum · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually, I find the "other Firefox extensions" link almost more interesting. The Google Suggest extension looks pretty darn slick.

    1. Re:Other (Google) Firefox Extensions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I really want Google to have my cell number along with everything else they know about me.

    2. Re:Other (Google) Firefox Extensions by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      And I bet ya they didn't merge this feature in the Google search text box in this Toolbar extension? :-/

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    3. Re:Other (Google) Firefox Extensions by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      What are you referring to?

      That they can theoretically secretly record what you search with via Google Suggest and hide the fact deep in some agreement you agree to? What stops them from doing the same when you search via the regular google.com? Heck, there's even evidence they do.

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    4. Re:Other (Google) Firefox Extensions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The cell number was referring to http://toolbar.google.com/firefox/extensions/sendt ophone/index.html. Appologies for the omission in the previous cowardly post.

  17. seamonkey by eriksarcade · · Score: 1

    does this work with seamonkey? or will i have to keep with googlebar?

  18. That's nice... by Silverlancer · · Score: 0, Troll

    But does it work on IE?

  19. Duh by Jeet81 · · Score: 1

    Google Slashdotted.

  20. Re:Firefox, that the other browser for windows rig by Pantero+Blanco · · Score: 1

    I think there's a FreeBSD port of it out, too.

    My BeOS partition uses it, so it must have a high percentage of that market as well. :D

  21. Honestly, why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only useful functions I found of the toolbar were popup blocking and Google search. Since both of those are built-in to Firefox (and improved upon with extensions), why bother?

  22. "Toolbars" make me uncomfortable... by GillBates0 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    /tinfoil hat on Maybe it's just due to the abundance of spyware that disguises themselves as browser toolbars (I cringe everytime I see a MySearch toolbar running on an acquaintances IE), but it's more due to the fact that integrating my open-source browser with a proprietary piece of software is apt to open up all kinds of privacy issues like making me more vulnerable to a single entity (in this case Google) tracking all my online activity, searches, form information, etc.

    I know Google tracks and logs every search query by IP address, but it's these persistent session pieces like the GMail cookies, "Personalized results" etc, that I find scarier. And what's more, a large number of people tend to use their full names as Email IDs (moreso for an attractive email service like GMail, which can be used as a formal email account for most purposes), which gives Google a way to directly map People Names to Google Searches.

    /tinfoil hat off

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    1. Re:"Toolbars" make me uncomfortable... by Mad+Merlin · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I know Google tracks and logs every search query by IP address...

      Not quite, Google sets a cookie on your computer that uniquely tracks you regardless of what IP you're browsing from. Not only that, but that cookie will probably outlast your hardware. The expiry on my Google cookie as reported by Konqueror, expires: 30/11/37 07:00 pm. You might want to invest in another layer of tinfoil there...

    2. Re:"Toolbars" make me uncomfortable... by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 1

      In my case, i think information should be free, all information, even private information. If there is something that i don't want other people to know, it's in my head, if i write something down, then everyone should be able to see it. The reason i don't like this kind of stuff it's because it's proprietary, and if we are fighting to have a fully Free Software Operating System, it's stupid to integrate such small and unimportant pieces of software that will taint your whole system. If i have 6 gb of Free Software on my machine, then why should i taint all of that with 1 mb of proprietary software. Again, if there weren't any Free C Compilers for GNU, then i might use a proprietary one, and i would understand other people doing so for important pieces of software, but for something as trivial as a toolbar, when we have a completely Free OS with allmost everything you could ever need?, no thanx.

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    3. Re:"Toolbars" make me uncomfortable... by squidsoup · · Score: 1

      A nice bookmarklet for google anonymisation:

      javascript:dRE=/(\.google\.(com?(\...)|..|com))$ /; if(!dRE.test(location.host))alert('Sorry, you need to click while viewing a Google page');else{anon='0000000000000000';nowanon='00000 00000000000';C=document.cookie.split('; ');for(i=0;c=C[i];++i)if(/^PREF=/.test(c)){r=c.ind exOf(nowanon)==-1?nowanon:anon;document.cookie=c.r eplace(/ID=\w+:/,'ID='+r+':')+'; domain='+dRE.exec(location.host)[1]+'; path=/;expires=Mon, 01 Jan 2038 00:00:00 GMT';location.reload();}}

    4. Re:"Toolbars" make me uncomfortable... by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      Well, easily checked...

      Does your firewall detect any new outbound connections via Firefox if one have installed Google Toolbar to sites you aren't visiting, besides when sending searches to Google? It should be easy enough to check if it tracks e.g. your "online activity" and form information.

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    5. Re:"Toolbars" make me uncomfortable... by kaptron · · Score: 1

      I just wrote down a response to your post but it's secret and I'm not going to show it to you.

    6. Re:"Toolbars" make me uncomfortable... by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 1

      The post you are replying to is licensed under the GPL License, and, since your response is a derivative work based on my post, you are infringing the GPL if you don't show me your post.

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    7. Re:"Toolbars" make me uncomfortable... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Not so!

      Quote the GNU:

      You are free to make modifications and use them privately, without ever releasing them.

    8. Re:"Toolbars" make me uncomfortable... by fermion · · Score: 1
      My thinking was along this line as well.

      OTOH I think this is a good thing as it shows that firefox is now seen as the browser of the common person. If one assumes that google toolbar is primarily a method to collect personal data, then it makes little sense to skew the data by targeting a largely geek audience. Therefore, if google has developed a firefox toolbar, it must mean that firefox is making inroads to the general population.

      The bad thing might be that other more malicious spyware and adware will be targeted to firefox. The best hope is that since FireFox does not have the ActiveX security issues, it will be slightly safer.

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    9. Re:"Toolbars" make me uncomfortable... by plumby · · Score: 2, Funny

      What's your credit card number?

    10. Re:"Toolbars" make me uncomfortable... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't like the toolbar. Already in Firefox I can go a google search and quickly find things. I've found that typing a word into the URL bar is the same as I'm Feeling Lucky. And there is no button on it to check my GMAIL. No thanks.

    11. Re:"Toolbars" make me uncomfortable... by IpalindromeI · · Score: 1

      But Firefox allows you to blacklist sites for cookies, as well as set it to delete all cookies when you close the browser, to help you work through your paranoia.

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    12. Re:"Toolbars" make me uncomfortable... by WPL510 · · Score: 1

      I can't help you on the cookies (except to point out that they can be easily deleted through the Firefox cookie manager), but I can point out that if you're worried about privacy, the open-source Googlebar project has provided a Google toolbar for Firefox for some time that's 100% open source and focuses on search, meaning that Google doesn't get a log of every URL you visit. It's linked to on the same page from which you can download Google's toolbar. The main difference is that the Googlebar focuses much more heavily on easy access to major search capabilities, and lacks the spellcheck/autofill/autocomplete type functions of the official Google Inc. toolbar- though on the other hand, it has a much wider selection of searches by default. :)

    13. Re:"Toolbars" make me uncomfortable... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like Cheesecake!

    14. Re:"Toolbars" make me uncomfortable... by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 1

      Yes, that is for inhouse aplications, but if you REDISTRIBUTE the modified sources, you have to release the code, and posting them to /. certainly IS redistribution.

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    15. Re:"Toolbars" make me uncomfortable... by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 1

      I Am a Comunist, i don't use credit cards.

      But if you want to know, my money is in my pocket, you can see it anytime you want, and you can have copys of if if you want, in any medium you may need, digital or analog. I Can Scan my money and send you a GIF if you want.

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  23. Not enough features.. by mislam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I do not see enough features in the toolbar to let it occupy 25% (ok maybe less) of my browsers tool space.

    1. Re:Not enough features.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is your resolution 320x256?

    2. Re:Not enough features.. by Internet_Communist · · Score: 1

      That's exactly how I feel as well. It has a spellcheck, that would have been nice if I hadn't recently just installed spell bound, which is just as good. What else, auto-form-fill? But firefox already has form-completion, which, while not as fancy, comes close enough. Too much screen space for the advantages, though I did try it and it is pretty nice, just not for me.

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    3. Re:Not enough features.. by SavvyPlayer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nice to see this in Firefox, but I must confess some disappointment with the latest release. There is plenty of room to the right of the menu bar for all of the Google Toolbar features, however Google chose instead to gobble up a 4th row of buttons along the top of the window. Google chose the shortest path from point A (IE toolbar) to point B (straight port), not taking the time to properly implement Firefox's UI guidelines: its buttons are neither dockable or aware of the "show icons, text or icons + text" user preference.

      This isn't rocket science. When hiring offshore IT talent, does Google translate its requirements via http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en ?

    4. Re:Not enough features.. by strider44 · · Score: 1

      One of my favourite features of Firefox (the so-called "killer feature" that keeps me from switching to Konqueror) is the ability to have every single relevant button on one line. The single toolbar of my Firefox has the context menus, the back, forward, refresh, and stop buttons, and the location bar. It takes only a bit of space on my browser and leaves the rest of the space on my browser to actually browse.

      I can't stand using Firefox on another computer especially with a lower resolution!

  24. What about Konqueror? by bogaboga · · Score: 0

    Good! The one for Firefox is here. Let's demand one for Konqueror. Google should realize that Konqueror is the *default* browser for many KDE centric Linux systems that have KDE installed by default....only if the Konqueror programmers could first fix the sometimes insane toolbars!

    1. Re:What about Konqueror? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hint - Konqueror may be default on many KDE-based Linux desktops, but how substantial a population is that compared to Firefox?

      Remember, there are probably more people using Firefox on Windows than there are people running any browser on Linux. This isn't designed for Firefox on Linux - it's simply portable enough to work on any platform.

    2. Re:What about Konqueror? by Frogbert · · Score: 1

      I think the main reason there isn't a Google bar for Konquerer is that both of its users aren't fans of toolbars.

  25. might as well by buddha42 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google should just CNAME pr.google.com to slashdot.org

  26. Mine installed in German! by bmzf · · Score: 1

    Hey, how to you change the language settings on this thing? I don't speak no Deutsch!

    1. Re:Mine installed in German! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Sprechen die Deutsch nicht?

    2. Re:Mine installed in German! by the_quark · · Score: 1

      Yes, it's quite insistent on my Linux box that it install in German - and turn the whole app into German, too!

      Any idea how to fix this? Uninstalling, thankfully, seems to help with the language issue, but I'm interested in having the tool...

    3. Re:Mine installed in German! by bmzf · · Score: 1

      I uninstalled, reinstalled, then restarted firefox, and it magically became English. The "Autolink" feature is awesome by the way. Saves soooo much time.

    4. Re:Mine installed in German! by the_quark · · Score: 1

      Thanks! That worked for me, too.

      So, to be clear, if anyone else has Germanic trouble:

      1) Install the plugin
      2) Restart Firefox. It & the plugin will come up in German.
      3) Do whatever's necessary to get past the opening dialog in German
      4) Close Firefox
      5) Run firefox again and it will be in English.

      I am, of course, presuming that you don't *want* your Firefox to be in German. If you do, stop at number 2. :)

  27. Great! by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    Now we can have 2 Google toolbars in FF. One from the previous /. article and this one.

  28. any way to move it? by supersuckers · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have it installed in my firefox in gentoo... is there any way to move the darn thing? It takes up a lot of real estate, I'd like to get rid of most of the buttons and move it to where the google search that comes with firefox used to reside.

  29. You call that a search toolbar... by thenotself · · Score: 1

    Personally I don't like it. My own "homebrew" google toolbar consists of: 1) Firefox search bar set to Google 2) Advanced Highlighter Button 1.51 3) Translate 0.6.0.7 4) SearchWP 0.4.3.2 Then I use a Firefox hack I read about somewhere that allows the search bar to automatically stretch to meet the size available. As I type in words into the search, my search terms are put into the toolbar for one click searching, and my toolbar automatically shrinks to make room. Sorry this was completely unnecessary but I'm a proud Firefox user! Customization rocks!

    1. Re:You call that a search toolbar... by SirSlud · · Score: 1

      > Customization rocks!

      Is there any way to 'roll' your config into an easy install for others? Customization rocks, but distribution rules.

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      "Old man yells at systemd"
  30. Too late... by wviperw · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When I was first thinking about converting to Firefox I remember that Google's toolbar was the "killer app" that initially kept me from switching over. Then I realized that I could do pretty much everything I could do using Google's IE-only toolbar using Firefox extensions and its built-in capabilities.

    For example, for instant Google searches, Firefox allows you to create Keyword Searches in which you can just type in, in my case, "g <search query>" in the URL bar. Or for Wikipedia it is "w <search query>". For word highlighting you can just use Firefox's search functionality. And finally, for AutoFill you can use the AutoFill extension (which ends up being better than Google's anyway IMO).

    So basically, Firefox has rendered the Google toolbar pretty useless to me.

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    1. Re:Too late... by XXIstCenturyBoy · · Score: 1

      And why not mention Googlebar if you have to speak of extension?

      g wasn't and isn't up to par with Google's toolbar because it didn't do word highlighting, which I find very usefull.

      I'm staying with Googlebar myself. Hopefully it will continue to be updated.

    2. Re:Too late... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you mind explaining how I can setup g google search and w wikipedia search? (for those of us less inclined but who have to read this for a living ? )

    3. Re:Too late... by wviperw · · Score: 5, Informative

      Sure! It is really quite easy. Go to www.google.com and right click on the textbox where you would normally enter your search. Click on "Add a Keyword for this Search..." and then just set whatever keyword you would like in the Keyword textbox. So for Google I just entered "g". You can do the same thing with any search box, so I've got it setup to work with Google (g), Google Local (gl), Google Image (gi, Wikipedia (w), Download.com (dl), Dictionary.com (d), Rottentomatoes.com (rt), IMDB (imdb), and WHOIS (whois).

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    4. Re:Too late... by dutchct · · Score: 0

      the ebay toolbar kept me from switching for a while, but i did eventually.

      when will ebay give us the firefox version? The bid watch alerts where fantastic.

    5. Re:Too late... by Alaska+Jack · · Score: 1

      believe it or not, you can extend the functionality even further by installing Ben Goodger's "SmartSearch" extension.

      With SS installed, when you highlight a word and right-click on it, you don't just see "web search for...". Instead, a submenu opens up that lets you search for the word specifically on those sites you have already specified via the bookmark keywords.

      - AJ

    6. Re:Too late... by gibbo2 · · Score: 1

      Heh, I highlighted "Smartsearch" in your comment and used the right click "search for this" to find the extension... how self-referential.

      Anyway it came up with a bunch of unrelated results, the page you want is this: SmartSearch.

      The latest version of DictionarySearch lets you define your own search engines too.

      Btw the grandparent post was very handy, I've always mucked around with the bookmarked url etc for keyword searches, right clicking is so much easier!

    7. Re:Too late... by hyfe · · Score: 1
      For example, for instant Google searches, Firefox allows you to create Keyword Searches in which you can just type in, in my case, "g " in the URL bar. Or for Wikipedia it is "w ".

      *sigh*

      Make a wild guess which browser had this feature first.

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    8. Re:Too late... by mabinogi · · Score: 1

      I'm assuming that you mean Opera (since it's always Opera users that say that ;) )

      But when did Opera get it? Konqueror's had it since version 2. It's very possible that it was inspired by Opera, but I'd be curious to know...

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    9. Re:Too late... by john-da-luthrun · · Score: 1

      Useful tip about the keyword searches, but the other Google Toolbar/Googlebar feature I find useful is the button for moving up the directory tree on a website. Is an alternative available for Firefox that doesn't need the toolbar installed?

    10. Re:Too late... by zbuffered · · Score: 1
      IMDB (i) seems to work as well.
      you all owe me three keystrokes.

      ...wait, I misread your post.

      In the address bar, in FireFox:
      i Eight Legged Freaks
      Gives you the best movie ever*.

      *Guaranteed**.

      **Guarantee not guaranteed.
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    11. Re:Too late... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can do that keyword thing in IE too. www.quicks.tk is linked to a reg-file that adds g(google), i(imdb), dict(dictionary.com), n(google groups) + a few others :)

    12. Re:Too late... by IpalindromeI · · Score: 1
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    13. Re:Too late... by Trogre · · Score: 1

      Hmm, the only context menu I get when right-clicking on any search input field is "undo/redo/cut/copy/paste/delete/select all".

      Where might I activate this "Add a Keyword for this Search" menu?

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  31. WOW, a GoogleGeeGaw !!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No really, who *needs* this?

  32. Firefox, that the other browser for windows rig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm just asking because I use Gaymen....

    1. Re:Firefox, that the other browser for windows rig by Internet_Communist · · Score: 1

      Nice apple troll, now please shoot yourself.

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    2. Re:Firefox, that the other browser for windows rig by BigPhatPhuck · · Score: 1

      Dude, it works on Mac too. Check it out http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

    3. Re:Firefox, that the other browser for windows rig by ArbitraryConstant · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, as a niche browser Safari is always going to be behind Firefox in support from 3rd parties.

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    4. Re:Firefox, that the other browser for windows rig by northcat · · Score: 1

      So Apple users *are* that dumb?

    5. Re:Firefox, that the other browser for windows rig by Poltras · · Score: 1

      That's seem like a nice browser. Do they make this for men?

  33. well. by rootedgimp · · Score: 1

    heh, one good thing comes out of this. i got a screenshot of /.'s mainpage with 2 different descriptions of this :D shit, am i posting on the wrong one?

  34. Firefox and Searchbars... by Krankheit · · Score: 0, Troll

    I recently switched to Firefox because my ISP told me it would make my computer faster (something to do with the Internet breaking my computer?) I will tell you that this new Firefox VPN doesn't have the popups that Microsoft's Internet had, but I miss the search bars. It is good that Google ported their searchbar from the Internet to Firefox because before I had to use the Internet to do my search, then quickly close it before hackers could get in. I think it would help the tech community alot if more companies would port their Internet searchbars to this new Firefox VPN. I miss the porn searchbars I could use when I used the Internet to explore. Does anyone know of any other searchbars for this new Firefox? I can't to try tabbed searchbars in Firefox.

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    1. Re:Firefox and Searchbars... by PunkOfLinux · · Score: 1

      Um... buddy? How in the HELL do you close the internet? If you're connected, you're at risk. And the internet doesn't 'break' your computer; the ad-ware, et cetera, breaks it. And what the hell is 'this new firefox VPN'? And it's not microsoft's internet... just say IE... that's much better than calling the internet M$. I shudder at the mere thought.
      And why the hell do you need a porn search-bar? That's what google images is for!

      sorry, but you obviously know next to nothing about the workings of much at all.

    2. Re:Firefox and Searchbars... by kv9 · · Score: 1
  35. Re:Apologies for crashing the party... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF, you want to wipe out their logs before the FBI can get there ?

  36. All Fluff. by smug_lisp_weenie · · Score: 2, Informative

    The only thing this toolbar does that Firefox doesn't already is give pagerank- But there's a great site that'll let you do all this anyway. Otherwise, I recommend looking at open source Firefox extensions and YubNub.com (which integrates beautifully into firefox) for your enhancement needs!

    1. Re:All Fluff. by spencer1 · · Score: 0
      This extension will show the pagerank in your status bar.

      https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php ?application=firefox&id=262

    2. Re:All Fluff. by pete-classic · · Score: 1

      Sure it does.

      -Peter

  37. Great news by duffbeer703 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Now I can replace the built-in Mozilla search facility with a new, Google approved model that will "anonymously" monitor my browsing habits.

    Great!

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  38. What's the benefit? by lhbtubajon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why would I install this toolbar when I have instant search access to google built in to Firefox already?

    Obviously the google toolbar offers a few bells and whistles, but I'll never use them. I just want to search.

    So, the Google toolbar for IE makes sense, this one not so much.

    Am I missing something?

    Are those bells and whistles something worth sacrificing half an inch of screen real estate?

    1. Re:What's the benefit? by BCW2 · · Score: 1

      If you use it's pop-up blocker instead of Firefox's you can get pop-ups from those that have bribed Google to let them through. Their toolbar was nice when it first came out but allowed way to many pop-ups through in less than 6 months.

      As a tech I will say that all toolbars suck and are probably spyware. When pushed I will admit that Google and Yahoo probably are not but why trust them?

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    2. Re:What's the benefit? by Martin+Blank · · Score: 4, Informative

      The pop-ups got through because people figured out a way around them.

      That said, IIRC, Google has not included pop-up blocking in the Firefox version, because Firefox already has pop-up blocking.

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    3. Re:What's the benefit? by BCW2 · · Score: 1

      It's still an un-needed piece of bloat that will only slow your browser. Waste of hard drive space.

      If you ever clicked on a pop-up you have spyware!

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    4. Re:What's the benefit? by loconet · · Score: 1

      Interesting, why did they include a google search box.

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  39. IF only #$@$fox would install on my NT box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now if someone could only tell how to get #$@$fox to install on my NT4SP6a box. Starts, confirms install file's CRC OK exits. Period. No messages. No errors. Nothing in log file other than install file crc OK. Same will all versions 1.00-1.04. If i just run the ff.exe form the 1.01 zip, it runs. Try the built-in upgrade - no dice (same thing). Nice. FF on-line forums useless and serach capabilities pathetic.

    I'm a software developer with 20 yeras experience, so don't please don't give me any "didya try re-booting", admin priveleges, disk space... type suggestions.

    1. Re:IF only #$@$fox would install on my NT box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It might not work on NT 4.0 since it is so old. There is plenty of software that only works on Windows 2000 and XP now, including things you think would be trivial to make work on all Windows versions. Since the standalone package works, I would assume the installer they use is incompatible with older operating systems such as Windows NT 4.0 and Windows 9x.

  40. Gee, google, that's swell by RLiegh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    But I can use the Yahoo Toolbar on any platform that firefox runs on (any *BSD, solaris, etc). Because they had the smarts to write it in XUL (?) or what ever the native mozilla toolkit/extention language is.

    1. Re:Gee, google, that's swell by wviperw · · Score: 2, Informative

      According to the link to the Google Blog in the summary, they *did* use XUL to create this.

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  41. Re:Poor, poor Zonk by hermank · · Score: 1

    I dont know....

    Remember the 'Deep Impact'? Yes, it has been on slashdot. But what do you feel if you reading hourly coverage of the position of the probe towards the comet? Yes, technically these are not dupes, as the spatial position of the probe changes. But I really want to see if there is one day slashdot is full of something like hourly coverage of the same things.

    Maybe someone want the test the strength of google servers and bandwidth?

  42. Re:Apologies for crashing the party... by MosesJones · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    There will be not sodding logs, and actually taking down the server is the best way to make sure that the logs don't get deleted.

    I've a damned sight more faith in the bloody mindedness of the Slashdot community if mobilised to take down these sites on a regular basis than I have in the "intelligence" agencies in tracking people down via the sites. There are probably more people who speak arabic reading Slashdot than there are terrorists in the world, lets fuck the bastards using the technology we know how.

    And I speak as someone who massively opposes the death penality, the war in Iraq, Camp X-Ray and the rest, but who has ALWAYS thought that the best attack against these terrorists is to pull the rug out from their feet and then LAUGH as the fuckers fall over.

    They use the internet... We KNOW the internet, lets get ourselves a server based lynch mob.

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  43. Don't dupe comments on dupes! by crazyvas · · Score: 1

    Just to ensure that comments on dupes do not get duped, please refer to Zonk's previous dupe (which was but a few hours earlier): ahref=http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/07 /07/1351258&tid=123&tid=193&tid=158http://yro.slas hdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/07/07/1351258&tid=123&t id=193&tid=158>

    1. Re:Don't dupe comments on dupes! by crazyvas · · Score: 1

      Sorry, that link didn't work. This one does.

  44. How long before... by krbvroc1 · · Score: 1

    Is this an official google toolbar? I use the open source googlebar http://googlebar.mozdev.org/index.html. I wonder how long before google flexes legal muscle to shut down googlebar. I recall previously that the google legal team forced googlebar to change their logo so as to not dilute the google brand. I recall reading the legal agreement and there was wording about google being able to change their minds in the future if they release their own product.

    1. Re:How long before... by kerrle · · Score: 1
      I wonder how long before google flexes legal muscle to shut down googlebar.

      How 'bout never?

      Not only are they aware of googlebar, but they are apparently appreciative of the product and have been modestly supporting it with a link from the official Google bar page:

      Letter from Google to googlebar

    2. Re:How long before... by krbvroc1 · · Score: 1
      I predict within 6 months there will be a request from Google for googlebar to stop using googlebar as the name of the extension.

      Its was in Feb 2005 that someone at google requested that the name be changed and that the logo be changed. Only the logo was changed. I wish I could dig up the legal letter, but I recall the agreement basically said we can change our minds at anytime. (ie; there really was no legal agreement).

    3. Re:How long before... by kerrle · · Score: 1
      Predict all you want; I see no reason whatsoever to think that would be the case.

      Even if they did, though, it would be within their rights; hardly "evil".

    4. Re:How long before... by kalirion · · Score: 1

      I use that extension myself, but strangely enough, I just checked my extensions window, and it's not listed on it! What gives?

  45. one down.... by rev_g33k_101 · · Score: 0

    So when are they releasing the Google bar for life.

    D/L it right in to your head

    Gives you a nice HUD

    You can access maps to places as you wander around.

    Thinking about getting a hotdog?

    Google bar for life will highlight the nearest hotdog stands for you!

    not only that but you can donate unused brain power to science (i think every politician needs that feature soooo much wasted brain power)

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  46. Obligatory by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    "All your bar are belong to us" :)

    *ducks*

  47. wtf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is it me, or does this turn your browser's default language to German?

    1. Re:wtf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You've must've installed the Hasselhoff toolbar.

  48. This is strange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone know why the google toolbar doesn't get blocked on install, even though toolbar.google.com is not in my whitelist?

  49. sort of a review.... not really. by timerider · · Score: 1

    ok, lets check it.

    (note: i have not tried it, i have only looked at the features list)

    - autolink: its US only, hence useless for... how many percent of the internet?

    - word translator: kdict. 'nuff said.

    - address bar browse by name: IE only. pretty stupid, too. 'nuff said.

    - pop up blocker: IE only. not really needed on a linux box where firefox runs behind a privoxy proxy anyways...

    - autofill: doesn't firefox have something like that anyways? besides, I don't like the idea of automagically entering my credit card data into forms without asking me first.

    - spellcheck: now thats a good idea. but konqueror does it already...

    - pagerank: well... i dunno if someone else's algorythms should decide if "a page is worth my time", especially if i find the top google results are hijacked by "search optimized" junk most of the time.

    - hilight search terms: not bad, but see above.

    - word find: another feature that's already implemented in any browser i've seen so far.

    to sum it up: not for me. especially not on a laptop that can't go higher than 1024x768. not for features that I either don't need, or already have in my browser.

  50. Crashes like mad on Mac OS X Tiger (10.4.1) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every time you start it up after installation of the extension it crashes. Sent bug reports to both Apple and Firefox talkback, now to find a feedback address for google.

    Had to manually remove it from ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox/... to make it work again.

    Google needs to hire a better test department.

  51. Far from as useful as on IE by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Google Search -- integrated
    AutoLink -- US use only; most stuff don't work outside US, and even then a limited usefulness
    WordTranslator -- limited use; only useful if you must understand e.g. a french site, and even if you do, there are non-toolbar extensions for this
    Pop-up blocker -- integrated
    AutoFill -- as far as I can see, Firefox' form saving system works well enough here
    SpellCheck -- useful!
    PageRank -- why should I have a use for it? diagnosing rank issues with my own sites? seems like highly limited use
    Highlight search terms -- integrated
    Word find -- integrated

    An entirely new toolbar for this? Hmm... I can get the spell checking elsewhere without one, and besides that, it seems a bit much.

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    1. Re:Far from as useful as on IE by NardofDoom · · Score: 1

      There's an autofill extension for Firefox already. I like it because it has multiple profiles and password protection. I have a profile for each ecommerce system my company uses. It saves a lot of time making up information that I'll be able to find int he database easily.

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  52. googlebar by v1x · · Score: 1

    The extension I just removed before installing google toolbar had a few more features, the most useful of which is the EDU search. The official google toolbar doesn't seem to have this.

  53. Newsworthy? by DeusExMalex · · Score: 1

    "Reported on recently here on Slashdot."

    Meaning that the original story is still on the front page. I love being able to see a story about something's eventual release on the same page as the story about the thing's actual release.

  54. The only cool thing about this... by dan_sdot · · Score: 1

    is the autolink to google maps. Since I can't customize the toolbar, I am uninstalling it now. - I don't care about having a google searchbar, thats what the addressbar in firefox is for (just type "google computer store" to search for "computer store"). - I certainly don't need a button to search for news on google. How often would you use that? - Spell check could be useful, but do I really need a button for the few times I would use it? - Do I really need an options button? Couldn't that be a menu or something? Basically, I hate having buttons that take up real estate when I am hardly going to use them. Why can't this toolbar be "customized"?

  55. Good News For Slashdot Editors by Katz_is_a_moron · · Score: 1

    They can use it to search for dupes.

  56. One more Beta product! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can google not pay some testers to release product quality
    software?

    oops! I forgot the smart ph.d's they hire never test software.

  57. Coolio in some respects by JohnnyNoSPAM · · Score: 1

    Reasons that I ever used the Google Toolbar in IE include ad-blocking and quick google searching. Both of those are included with Firefox, so I never had a need for the toolbar again. What I find cool is that although I personally do not have a need or a desire for the toolbar, others are now recognizing and supporting software for open source projects. It's nice to see that others besides us geeks view Firefox as a real and serious alternative rather than treating web browsing as the IP of Microsoft.

  58. for very liberal definitions of "works" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's horrible on OS X, man.

  59. Its missing the best feature... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    of the unoffical toolbar, which was the ability to view cached copies of pages and other google related stuff when you right click a link.

    Ive used that a number of times when i get a 404 (or slashdot :)) from a link.

    The toolbar its self is a better design however.

  60. but... by RazorRaiser · · Score: 1

    there's already a google search box in firefox, isn't that a bit redundant?

  61. Heh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cool, but does it run on a GPU? ;)

  62. Translate function... by Cryptnotic · · Score: 1

    The translate function really needs more languages, and needs to be able to look up words from foriegn languages into your native language (e.g., Japanese to English).

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  63. Missing backwards link and cache link? by rev063 · · Score: 1

    The two main things I liked about the IE google toolbar, quick access to the Google cache of the visited page, and a list of referring links to the current page, aren't in the Firefox toolbar. Without those, it provides no benefit to me -- I could already search Google from the Firefox search tool. Uninstalling.

    1. Re:Missing backwards link and cache link? by Ninwa · · Score: 1

      The quick access to google cache is still there, it's just not on by default. Visit the options panel, there are a few more features burried in this toolbar than you see initially. Cheers, Ninwa

  64. One reason to use it... by crazyj · · Score: 1

    One reason to use the toolbar is to have everyone you know install it and surf your site, thus sending back info to Google that people visit your site. Also have those same people search on your keywords and then click through to your site.

  65. Great by mysidia · · Score: 1

    Now tell me where I can get the source code, and then I will be excited.

  66. 1.0 or Greater? by sheared · · Score: 1

    So why does the darn thing tell me that I need Firefox 1.0 or greater to install? Last time I checked, 1.0.4 was greated than 1.0.

  67. Word macro viruses and alternate OSs.... by commodoresloat · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I used a Mac at the time and had numerous instances of identifying viruses in Word macros sent to me by windows users. The Mac version of Word didn't play macros automatically and warned that there was a suspicious one, and Disinfectant 3.7 could identify them. The reactions I would get from windows users is first a smug "Hah! You told me macs didn't have any virus problems" ... then after explaining that my Mac at best was functioning as a kind of typhoid mary for viruses that didn't have any impact on the system I'd hear, "oh, so it's nothing to worry about then"... a bit of convincing to get them to fire up an antivirus program that scans Word files for such macros and then "Holy shit! this thing is all over my system!" How little things change sometimes.... Of course I pulled that Disinfectant version number out of my ass but for some reason I suspect it is accurate.

    [by the way the Mac of the time, while far more secure than the windows of the time, certainly had its share of problems. The autostart worm was a particularly nasty one that I was lucky enough never to get bit by. ]

    1. Re:Word macro viruses and alternate OSs.... by _merlin · · Score: 1

      The final version of Disinfectant was 3.7.1 and it didn't detect Word macro viruses. The whole reason Disinfectant was discontinued was because John Norstad didn't have the resources to keep up with the flood of new macro viruses.

    2. Re:Word macro viruses and alternate OSs.... by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

      It's been a while so I may be wrong but as I recall he released a version that detected the first wave of them but then he discontinued it shortly after that.

  68. Mozilla? by antdude · · Score: 1

    Will this Firefox port work with Mozilla? Or do I have to wait for a Mozilla port?

    Thanks in advance. :)

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    1. Re:Mozilla? by afidel · · Score: 1

      chances are very good that it will work with Mozilla, but I can't say for sure because the numbskulls at google have decided to protect me from myself and blocked access to the XPI based on some lame browser detection javascript. I'm sure I can get around it but I can't be arsed for the little benifit the toolbar would bring me. Personally I just have google set as my homepage and a new google search is as simple at ctrl-t alt-home, muscle memory means it takes a fraction of a second to perform.

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    2. Re:Mozilla? by osvejda · · Score: 1

      Quick look in source of the page reveals URL of the XPI file.It doesn't work in Mozilla Suite though, so the JS detection is there for a reason.

  69. PRGooleBar ahead of Google Corp. by schestowitz · · Score: 1

    The homebred Google toolbar is already far behind with PRGoogleBar ( http://www.prgooglebar.org/ ) out , a successor of the GoogleBar project.

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    1. Re:PRGooleBar ahead of Google Corp. by Rick+and+Roll · · Score: 1
      Yeah. I find PRGoogleBar invaluable. I have no plans to migrate from PRGoogleBar to the Google-made one.

      PageRank, the directory buttons, and the history of things entered in the search box are the three most important features I use.

      I especially like pagerank. For one thing, I don't have to send a request to get pages spidered. Another reason is I like to see the popularity of sites I visit.

  70. Not as good as freeware Google toolbars by cscalfani · · Score: 1

    I'm using the googlebar extension for FireFox and it is far better. When it comes to the Auto Fill function, I've found the Autofill extension is better than the auto fill in the new google toolbar for FireFox which doesn't let me put in credit card information like they do in IE.

    I think I'll wait for the next version of this tool.

  71. FEature set not worth it by Justifiable_Delusion · · Score: 1

    Though the Google toolbar carries a certain weight behind it at this point, it is Google releasing it, it doesnt really fill any true needs. Its beauty was in that it was a free beautifully working pop up blocker that could do search without needing to go to google.com. But now my firefox already does those things. None of the other features truly are worth installing another plugin. too many and your browser slows down to gooo. and Goo isnt nice.

    So yeah, awesome you FINALLY did what fifty mini coder people have already done...didnt impress me much on this one, not to say i dont think the last 15 releases have been perfect shots and i know the next 7 will probably be all A's...this was average, added to the group of random plugins...

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  72. Why woudl I switch by azmeith · · Score: 1

    when the googlebar extension works great, appears to be more customizable (less features though, but who cares, I only use 5% of them anyways), frill free and prolly doesnt latch onto my gmail logon...

  73. Also unveiled today... by mpath · · Score: 1

    Some other Firefox extensions: Send text (of webpage) to phone and the suggest technology in the firefox search bar.

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  74. other extensions by Yojimbo-San · · Score: 1

    The Google Suggestion toolbar functionality (suggests matches as you type search terms) isn't in this new toolbar!

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  75. Two other extensions released by delfstrom · · Score: 1
    Google released a "send text message to phone" which works for U.S. mobile phone numbers.

    They also released an extension with 'suggestions', just like at Google Suggest.

    Get them both, along with the toolbar, at http://toolbar.google.com/firefox/extensions/

  76. News just in by DeathByDuke · · Score: 1

    Google cache dupes slashdot articles

  77. "Demand?" by HishamMuhammad · · Score: 1

    Come on, that's not the kind of attitude we should be having around here.

    I'm not particularly a fan of Google (though I use and enjoy their services every day), but this kind of behavior towards a company that's releasing a Linux product is not very nice.

  78. OS Requirements by PhiznTRG · · Score: 1
    Linux 8.0+

    Wow! Good thing Novell recently released Linux 9.0!

  79. too bad it sucks by Mantus · · Score: 1

    The IE google bar can be placed to display on the same line as file, edit, view ... so that it doesn't take up extra screen real estate but the ff version doesn't work like that, maybe its the fault of FF (which is my assumption) but its still unusable IMHO, when your screen is 10.4"@1024x768 you do what you can to maximize the viewable area of your browser window. This extension, while long anticipated by me, is not appreciated.

  80. Ah! Finally gmail-style spel checking! by bbzzdd · · Score: 1

    Goodbye Spellbound! Thank you very much for your service, it was well appreciated, but you made me look the fool too many times in forum posts. I still love you but Google's spell checker is more thexy :)

  81. Re:Poor, poor Zonk by MynockGuano · · Score: 1

    Yea, that's why I feel bad for him. He's gonna get lambasted this time by people crying dupe, when this time it really technically isn't. =)

    Slashdot is a tough crowd to please; furthermore, it seems that there are many who don't even want to be pleased, and will go out of their way to make sure it's that way for everyone.

  82. They only say Red-hat... by daviq · · Score: 0

    So where is the debian support?

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  83. Mozilla version? by propellor_head · · Score: 1

    Does this download work for the browser in the full Mozilla suite, for those of us who prefer it to FireFox? I'm already running the mozdev googlebar, just wondering if an official one will be released from Google.

  84. I dunno... by Stonan · · Score: 1

    I installed the toolbar from Google Toolbar homepage and all it did was cause Firefox to run reallly really slow. It wouldn't even open until I killed a script that was running.

    Conversly, I installed the Google Toolbar from http://googlebar.mozdev.org/ and absolutly no problems at all...

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    1. Re:I dunno... by jc42 · · Score: 1

      Funny thing ... I just wasted an hour or so discovering the same problem, and finally getting the toolbar uninstalled.

      One question: Is there any way to tell what things in firefox (or mozilla) are running what cpu-eating things? I've got the Prefbar and Flashblock installed; I'm blocking image animation, java, javascript and flash, and still FF and mozilla are each eating 10% to 20% of my cpu.

      It likely has something to do with a lot of tabs I have open to sites that I'm following. Presumably the cpu usage is the result of particular things in particular tabs. But I haven't found anything that can tell me "This tab is using 1.7% of your cpu because it's running Foo". If I could find such things, I could kill those tabs. And send email to the sites explaining why I'm no longer one of their fans.

      Is there some way of profiling FF or mozilla, in a way that gives clues about the cpu eaters?

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  85. You forgot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  86. No Mozilla version? Ugh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    What?! No Mozilla version? Mozilla still has the best browser component out of the entire suite, hands-down. Firefox is great for the entry-level web user, but if you want real power, flexibility (without adding 50 third-party extensions) and use your browser like a TOOL, Mozilla is still on top of the Gecko-based line of browsers.

    Mozilla does more, has more knobs to twiddle and configure, and doesn't suffer from many of the bugs and lack of features that still plague Firefox. Mozilla is also still using a more-recent version of Gecko than Firefox (though Firefox is supposed to be switching over soon, so those Firefox-only HTML rendering issues should disappear).

    When will Google release the toolbar for Mozilla? Ever? Never?

    Personally I can't STAND the ugly interface of Firefox, even with the cleanest theme.. its very.. "kindergarten" looking and feels very entry-level.

    YMMV, of course, and I use Mozilla several hours every day doing web development. I'd never switch to Firefox for the same tasks.

  87. other extensions by stratmancjhotmail.co · · Score: 1

    google released two other firefox extensions today as well: http://toolbar.google.com/firefox/extensions/

  88. Googlebar - Google Different by slyborg · · Score: 1

    http://googlebar.mozdev.org/index.html

    Rocks On. Available for FF and old school classic Mozilla, my preferred ride. It is the Keymaster AND Gatekeeper of XUL, baby.

    1. Re:Googlebar - Google Different by slyborg · · Score: 1

      Hate to respond to my own post, but forgot my fav Googlebar feature which makes it rule, while the official Google Toolbar continues to drool...

      From a Web page, select an address - if it contains a full address with city/state, you can select the Google Maps icon in Gbar and boom, instant map (your mileage may vary by country).

      If you are house hunting as I am, this combined with the GMaps Satellite view is killer.

      (You will need to run the Experimental googlebar for the Maps button.)

    2. Re:Googlebar - Google Different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This can be done with the official Google Toolbar. It's just called "AutoLink" instead.

    3. Re:Googlebar - Google Different by slyborg · · Score: 1

      Two clicks - Autolink + Click on resulting link. Gbar still wins, unless you have unsteady hands and don't like to select text.

      Actually, the Autolink thing is clever, but the name is sort of generic - Automap would make the purpose clearer.

  89. Guess I'll just have to bite the bullet ... by jc42 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... and finally learn how to uninstall these damned things.

    I made the mistake of deciding to give it a try on my Mac Powerbook (10.3.9). Bad mistake. This was typed to the Camino browser, because now my FF is all but unusable.

    To use an example that /. users can appreciate, I fired up a FF window that has two tabs, with the expected slashdot.org and slashdot.org/users.pl in them. I then opened a third tab with the Google Toolbar discussion, and waited for its busy wheel to stop spinning ... and waited ... and waited ... until finally, after several minutes the spinning froze. Another minute, and it hadn't moved. I hit the little stop-sign icon, and after a while, FF sorta came back.

    So I tried opening a new FF window, using CMD-N as usual. Nothing. I tried it a few more times. Nada. No errors, no windows. I guessed that CMD-N was dead.

    So I started playing with a few other things in the /. window. CMD-click did open a couple more tabs, all of which hung in the "frozen busy" state. I tried a few ways of getting menus; none worked. Clicking on a tab would bring it to the front, but click-hold never produced a menu. Neither did click-hold inside a tab.

    WTF?

    Then, after maybe 10 minutes, a set of blank windows suddenly appeared. So CMD-N isn't dead; it just takes 10 minutes. Now, I'd gotten used to FF taking 30 seconds on OSX, unlike my (slower ;-) linux box where it takes between 2 and 3 seconds. But 10 minutes is way past what I'd call marginally usable.

    Then, a few minutes later I saw a whole lot of menus flashing above the FF window where I was viewing /., meaning that the menus aren't dead, either. They're just so slow as to be unusable.

    So it looks like I'll have to hunt down this Toolbar and excise it. Too bad I didn't get a chance to try it. Well, actually, I did. I typed in a search string and hit Return - and the window became a zombie. And my cpu was pegged at 100%, with Activity Monitor saying that Firefox was hung. I got my cpu back by hitting the little 'x' "close" icon for the window, and after a minute or so it went away, and cpu usage dropped.

    I wonder where I can find the docs on removing the little monster? I'd sure like my firefox back.

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  90. Roger that by Urusai · · Score: 1

    With Firefox, any feature of value that Google might provide can be provided by disinterested third parties who aren't burgeoning corporate empires. Isn't that what open source is supposed to be like?

  91. Google new is annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this really newsworthy? I'm so sick of all the google related news anytime they hiccup or sneeze. Too many fanboy editors. Can we have more REAL NEWS?

    Feel free to discuss what you'd like to see more of. I think the slashdot editors think they know the pulse of the readers, but really, most slashdot poster will comment on anything.

    -old time AC

  92. Ah; that's so much better! by jc42 · · Score: 1

    I seem to have succeeded in deleting the damned google toolbar. I even found the info in the google toolbar docs (using another browser, of course, since FF was a zombie).

    And they didn't work. There were two ways listed, and both failed for the same reason. They seemed to want to pop up a new window to handle the job - and the window never appeared. Not even after 15 minutes of letting the "busy" icon spin.

    Furthermore, attempting to get such a window put FF into an even more bizarre state that I've never seen before: Almost everything I tried got the "Bonk!" noise that signifies refusal. And then nothing worked in FF, not even moving the window or clicking to bring it to the top. These just got a "Bonk!" refusal. But if I clicked another window and brought it on top of FF, then I could do one operation in FF, e.g. grabbing the titlebar and moving the FF window worked. But just once; releasing the button and trying a second move got another "Bonk!" refusal, until I brought another window to the top and then re-selected FF. Very bizarre.

    And, of course, FF refused to exit. So I did a "Forced Quit", which thankfully worked.

    On starting a new FF, the google-toolbar install window appeared again, though I'd already done it. It refuses to take "No" for an answer; your only choice is whether to enable the PageRank display. After checking one of those, the only thing that works is the "Install" button. So I did. And, happily, the instructions for uninstalling google toolbar now produced the window with the list of extensions, which seems to have worked.

    I certainly won't try that experiment again.

    (And yes, I did dig around in google's docs to see if my problem is mentioned. Couldn't find any clues at all. Maybe I'll send a link to these two messages to google's support people, and see what they make of it. Probably something somewhere wrong on my machine. But there were no clues at all. Nothing at all like a warning or error message. The only symptom was that FF became utterly unusable. Now the /. pages once again download in a few seconds and display fine. In fact, I typed this into a FF window.)

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    1. Re:Ah; that's so much better! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Next time, try starting Firefox in "safe mode."

      Poorly designed or incompatible Extensions can cause problems with your browser, including make it crash, slow down page display, etc. If you encounter strange problems relating to parts of the browser no longer working, the browser not starting, windows with strange or distorted appearance, degraded performance, etc, you may be suffering from Extension or Theme trouble. Restart the browser in Safe Mode. On Windows, start using the "Safe Mode" shortcut created in your Start menu or by running firefox.exe -safe-mode. On Linux, start with ./firefox -safe-mode and on Mac OS X, run:
      cd /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/
      ./firef ox-bin -safe-mode
      When started in Safe Mode all extensions are disabled and the Default theme is used. Disable the Extension/Theme that is causing trouble and then start normally.


      http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/faq#troubes hoot-addons
    2. Re:Ah; that's so much better! by jc42 · · Score: 1

      Thanks. I'd never heard of safe mode. I'll experiment with it and see how it works.

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  93. Meh... by ajb2718 · · Score: 1

    Being able to spell check anything entered into a form is nice, but I dont want to use it unless I can get rid of every thing but the spell check and put the spell check up on the nav bar

  94. Re:Not enough features..but good for int'l by bugbeak · · Score: 1

    True, but for people who live overseas and/or have to deal with other languages, the one-click translate is a godsend. There may be other sites out there who do translations, but one-click (almost) always kicks ass.

  95. Useless by dantheman82 · · Score: 1

    Am I the only person who normally finds Google's offerings interesting, but this to be useless and extremely late in coming? Using AutoFill and SpellBound, combined with Firefox's built-in Google search bar with its own drop-down list, I find the Google toolbar to be a huge waste of screen space. I'd much rather put my 50+ RSS feeds across the top and save the rest of my screen space.

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  96. No Pop up blocker? by tzuriel · · Score: 1
    Pop-up Blocker (Internet Explorer only).

    Is this because Firefox has that built-in? What are you gaining with this version over Googlebar?

    1. Re:No Pop up blocker? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do we need 2 popup blockers? Thats retarded.

  97. Google Toolbar for Firefox Downloaded 20K Times... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bring on the hourly updates!

  98. Useless combination by booyabazooka · · Score: 1

    Does anyone else realize that this Google Toolbar is just a collection of features which could be (and in most cases, already are) individual extensions?

  99. The stupidest thing ever by Negativeions101 · · Score: 0

    Firefox already has a google search bar. Who the fuck cares about this crap. And it's a non-open source toolbar at that. Completely redundant and useless.

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  100. Looked At The Features List by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1


    Didn't see a single thing I need to use.

    Already got Google search on my address bar as it is with Firefox.

    And I can already spell.

    Never need to translate words FROM English, and any software I've seen translating INTO English sucks.

    Rest of the stuff is just worthless to me.

    Oh, well. I only have four Firefox extensions installed (Flashblock, keyconfig, Download Manager Tweak, and Netcraft Toolbar - and the latter is of questionable value until I actually find a suspicious site being flagged) as it is. I'm not someone that needs to load down his software with every tweak and button somebody comes up with.

    I never customize my Linux or Windows desktops and windows with anything except a wallpaper displayer to see my babe pictures.

    I never detailed a car either.

    Frills just don't interest me.

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  101. Superb dictionary! by sankyuu · · Score: 2, Informative

    Now is my first time to use Google toolbar (or any other browser toolbar add-on), and I find the dictionary superb!

    I'm running Japanese firefox and it translates any English word that I hover my mouse on into Japanese. And Firefox doesn't seem slowed down one bit! The "magic" of AJAX, I suppose...

    Now to see if it translates other languages into Japanese... ^_^

    1. Re:Superb dictionary! by sankyuu · · Score: 1

      The dictionary doesn't translate French into Japanese. Well, English is more than good enough. And as a bonus, the dictionary works even when the toolbar is hidden. No more clutter!

      I just hope they keep these features free.

  102. Bravo Google Was:Re:Googlebar - Google Different by Mhtsos · · Score: 1

    I was pleasently surprised to see a link to Googlebar on the Google Toolbar download page.

  103. well that took a while.... by KidsIL · · Score: 0

    about 3 years from the original google toolbar for the IE...

  104. But I still don't have Linux 8!!!!! by cuerty · · Score: 1

    I don't know if Gentoo 2005 will fit the Linux 8 requirement: http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,2000061733 ,39200568,00.htm

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    >Linux is not user-friendly.
    It _is_ user-friendly. It is not ignorant-friendly and idiot-friendly.
    1. Re:But I still don't have Linux 8!!!!! by cuerty · · Score: 1
      --
      >Linux is not user-friendly.
      It _is_ user-friendly. It is not ignorant-friendly and idiot-friendly.
  105. Googlebar Google's Bar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  106. Lovely first impression on OS X 10.4.1 by sjmacko29 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Firefox now crashes immediately on startup. Nice feature... back to Safari. Seriously, I think I will be uninstalling Firefox, and doing a reinstall. As soon as Firefox becomes visible, I get the "Thank you for installin Google Toolbar", and then the mozilla talkback pops up... Time to go back to watching the hurricane's progress in Safari. Steve on the Gulf Coast

  107. Blinking Unmovable Toolbars! by Winkhorst · · Score: 1

    Why do these toolbars always insist on using an ENTIRE line of my browser? Considering they don't normally take up an entire line, it would be highly useful if I could cram two of them together on the same line. I have ALREADY uninstalled this PoG. The built-in search function is perfectly usable and only uses a little tiny bit of desktop real estate. Many more toolbars like this and I will have to get a desktop switcher just to see webpages.

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    "Is this Winkhorst a nova criminal?" "No just a technical sergeant wanted for interrogation."
  108. Can't Install! What the heck by joshuao3 · · Score: 1

    I'm running 1.0.4, but I think that my Firefox is reporting 0.9.2, so the Googlebar won't install. I checked under Help->About Mozilla Firefox and that is where I see the user agent string that is mismatched to the version number. What a pain!

    It says:

    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/0.9.2

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    Monitor bandwidth usage on IIS6 in real-time: http://www.waetech.com/services/iisbm/
  109. Netscape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does the Firefox Google toolbar work for Netscape 7.x or Netscape 8?

  110. Ms Shipped it. by Tirjasdyn · · Score: 1

    I remember word 6. I was running a computer lab at the time. When 6 came out we switched from WP to Ms Office and converted the whole lab.

    MS shipped word 6 with a macro virus. Or a least some of the copies. Imagine 100s of angry business majors who lost their work. My ears still ring.

  111. Baaaaaad Idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of the reasons I like having my users run Firefox is the LACK of browsers! They can fill up half the browser screen with multiple stacked "toolbars". Damn them to hell!

  112. Disappointment by bano · · Score: 1

    So not only is it crippled to only 3 os's.
    The main feature that was lacking in the non-official google toolbar extensions, page ranking(the actual voting buttons) is not there. :(

    Only people with windows and IE can rank stuff on google still.

  113. Linux great..OS X why? by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 1

    I think it is great that this has been released for Linux, but what is the point of this on OS X? I mean most Firefox users on OS X probably run Camino or something with a native front end right? I know I do. Looking at the feature list I don't see anything (except maybe pagerank) that is not already implemented as a system service and usable on all applications. Why would anyone bother to install a program that will make it work for just Firefox? Half of these functions should be system services (like translation) so they work everywhere not just in Firefox and the the other half are already built into Firefox (pop-up blocking) and are aimed at IE users. The only reason I can think of to run this is if you have to switch platforms many times a day and want a consistent browsing experience. Mostly though, I don't see the point.

  114. Re:Poor, poor Zonk by ryanov · · Score: 1

    Anyone noticed that since we keep crying dupe, he's been very careful to point out when things are not dupes (eg. "as covered on Slashdot"). Not that he's been any more careful not to ACTUALLY post dupes. ;)

  115. Zonk, good fucking GOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Read the fucking site now and then, will ya? I mean, dupes don't normally bother me at all, but holy fucking shit, man!!! Do you not bother to even browse the goddamn headlines, or what?!?!?

    p.s.- love you in Doonesbury