It must be nice forgetting what you did six hours ago. I mean, let's say you went to the pub. You drink a bit, and in the end you fuck another man. I mean, you nail his ass raw, and he splatters his man juice all over your face. You feel guilty and filthy for six hours, but then you completely forget it even happened! Now, it's good that you don't feel guilty about it, but what do you go and do? You go to the pub, drink a bit, and you're off fucking men again.
Such forgetfulness has its pros and cons, I suppose. You don't feel bad about your mistakes, but you make them again and again. Of course, since you don't realize you're repeatedly making mistake, you're quite happy, in a naive sort of way.
"Theoretically, giving the UN control of the root DNS would give every member nation a share in the responsibility."
Yeah, theoretically. But fuck theory at this time. This is a practical matter we're dealing with. The UN is not the ideal body to deal with such matters. I mean, look at the WIPO. It's been nothing but trouble. Now we have shitty WIPO-standardized legality infecting numerous other nations. Let's not let that sort of nonsense happen to the Internet as well.
Centralized anything is proven time and time again to be bad, be it computer systems, economic systems, intellectual property frameworks or whatnot.
But you're not considering the economics of such a change. If some country were going to come up with their own version of HTML, or make changes to the TCP/IP protocols, then they would most likely only be cutting themselves off from the rest of the world.
Even a larger nation, like China or the US, would only be harming themselves if they tried a stunt like that. People in other nations could not interact with the modified systems, and thus the modified system would become isolated. When it comes to commercial matters, that's not a good idea. You don't get foreign clients by making your web site inaccessible to them.
So chances are that things would continue much as they do today. The only way to maximize utilization of the Internet is to conform. Those who fail to conform would only harm themselves, and the only option they have to prevent such harm is to conform.
After recently working with the Mozilla codebase, I'm surprised that flaws aren't found more often. To be honest, it's a very complex beast. Perhaps overly complex. The worst part, however, is the outdated documentation. It displays the sort of attributes that often lead to bugs and security flaws.
Now, what really interests me is in how horrible the quality of the Internet Explorer code must be for it to run into so many problems. Considering how unappealing Mozilla was, I can't even begin to imagine how absolutely terrible the IE codebase is.
Perhaps somebody with experience with both could, assuming NDAs don't get in the way, describe how the quality of the two codebases compare.
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I would expect the behavior to differ between GNOME apps, KDE apps, Mozilla-based apps, and Windows apps. As long as you stick to one general environment, the consistency is usually quite good. Unfortunately, that's changing in the Windows world, as outlined previously. But when it comes to KDE, and less so GNOME, the consistency is there, and it's quite good. If you go mixing different environments together then you're going to run into differences.
It's not surprising that you ran into problems with Firefox. It's quite disappointing that the most common Linux builds are against GTK+ and GNOME, rather than against QT and KDE. QT and KDE have proven time and time again to be far more consistent, and the development is more coordinated. You could always try using Konqueror, for instance. It integrates far better into KDE than Firefox integrates into GNOME.
That's quite surprising! I have found the opposite to be true. Any decent Linux distro (ie. Debian-based distros, SuSE, but not Fedora) I've used within the past three or so years has detected all of my hardware perfectly, without the need to search around for drivers from the vendor. Then again, I do not use radically unusual hardware, so perhaps that is why I have yet to run into any problems.
Perhaps there's some troublesome hardware you have that you could list the name and model number of, so that we can know to avoid it if possible in the future?
I mean, we can't do anything to help improve your Linux experience if you never tell us what exactly was wrong!
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These days I find that different Windows apps are beginning to look nothing alike. You have renegades like WinAmp, with their godawful themes. Then there is the removal of the toolbar in the upcoming release of Office. Of course there's also Mozilla-based software with its themes. And software like GAIM, which can use various GTK+ themes.
At least with most X11 toolkits you can go with a fairly standard Motif theme, if you really want consistency.
Perhaps you're not aware, but TripMaster is quickly becoming one of the most powerful Slashdot users. He has generated a lot of strife, but has also gained many supporters. Indeed, he's one to watch for in the future.
That said, it's important that we learn who exactly he is. Find out what his background is, and if he can back up his posts with experience, qualifications, credentials and results.
.. your average Joe and Jill American. At least not directly, as far as they're aware. Baseball does, unfortunately. That is why, as sad as it is, real issues don't get the attention they deserve, while farcery like athletes using steroids does.
In this case the user was correct. Potentially misleading statements were made by KOffice representatives.
While it isn't necessary to worship the users, it is also completely unnecessary to blatantly insult them in public. It makes not only the KOffice project look terrible and immature, but it also reflects badly on the entire KDE project.
It's not a matter of "entitlement". It's a matter of being professional and polite. That is something that apparently that KOffice developer struggled with. The open source community will never gain significant grounds in the commercial market, where professionalism is a must, with insults being thrown around like that.
Well, could you tell us about some of your credentials? Where did you do your graduate studies, for instance? Have you written any notable papers? What areas do you perform research in? What sort of positions have you held in the commercial world?
Indeed, I'm nearing 70, and have worked in the computer industry for a very long time. There have been a number of times that I have envied the young.
One such time was at work, probably around 1995 or 1996. In order to increase the productivity at our firm we installed several Internet-enabled workstations for various managers, secretaries and workers.
After a while we noticed some rather work-unrelated web sites showing up as being accessed from a particular workstation, which happened to be in the office of one of the young guys in finance. They were rather peculiar fetish sites. In any case, some of us in IT thought that we should alert this worker's higher-up to what was happening.
It was decided that several of us would discuss the matter with him. So we headed up to his office, and knocked on his door, and opened it. Much to our surprise, he was there with a massive boner, ejaculate all over. He must have been in the middle of it when we knocked, because he was quickly trying to clean the mess off of the keyboard and his pants.
It didn't bother me that he was whacking his cock in the office, or that he got his semen on the computer's keyboard. What bothered me was that he was able to get an erection, and I wasn't. So even though I knew far more about technology than he did, he was able to get a boner and I couldn't. I was trumped.
Let's take your example of assembly versus C++ versus some other language. Consider the software that was written in assembly back in the 1950s and 1960s. Sure, there were some pretty impressive pieces of work. Various compilers, OS/360, and whatnot. But compared to software today, such items are of a level of complexity often expected from first or second year undergraduate Comp. Sci. students.
Sure, we're not using assembly today, but even some of the more minor systems implemented in C++ are far more complex than anything that was written in pure assembly several decade ago. I mean, look at something like an optimizing JIT Java virtual machine or a.NET runtime. Those are fairly complex motherfuckers. Far more complex than anything that was even conceived a few decades back.
Eventually the knowledge will be passed along to the younger generations. They'll pick up where us oldies have left off. Indeed, it is often said that it is more difficult for them. We have left them with systems that are far more complex than were left to us when we all started. I trust in our younger generations. They'll be able to advance our technological knowledge. And the best thing is that we're now drawing from the most creative and brilliant minds of India, China, Korea and many other nations. We're bound to make tremendous discoveries just because we now have so many talented people working in the technology field.
Indeed, it is completely unacceptable for developers of KDE and various KDE-related projects like KOffice to attack the users of their product like that. It gives all such products a horrible image when rogue developers are throwing around such awful insults in public.
Compared to SuSE or Debian, Fedora is a lousy distro. I ran into numerous problems with it, too. Indeed, as you found, things often run far better under SuSE, Debian, or basically any other non-RedHat/non-Fedora distro. While your machine isn't the most powerful beast, it should be more than sufficient for a decent KDE experience. It's unfortunate that RedHat/Fedora failed you so badly. At least you were able to get a solid SuSE installation working.
It bothers me that Fedora is often recommended to new Linux users, yet it is often nothing but problematic. Its low quality probably does more to turn users off of Linux than anything else, which is awful because most other distros are far superior to Fedora.
Well, then. That's understandable. From my experiences, RedHat is one of the worst distros to use. Fedora is even worse. I wasn't able to get one of the earlier Fedora releases to install on my system (which runs Debian and SuSE just fine). Bitched about the CD being corrupt, even after redownloading the file from a different server and burning it again. I'd be hardpressed to recommend RedHat, especially to enterprise users, when SuSE is available and often works just as well, if not better.
I wish he would have given us more information regarding the problems he ran into. I'm talking about system specs, the name and version of the Linux distro used, and more information regarding the software they apparently had so much trouble installing.
When problems do happen, the open source community is notorious for getting them fixed very quickly. If he were to provide us, the community, with more details about the problems he encountered, I just know they could be solved for him and potentially for many other users in a similar boat.
A paper ballot listing the candidates names, along with a pencil to mark a vote on the paper ballot, have proven time and time again for years on end to be the true tools of democracy. They just work, in countries like Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Hungary, Belgium, Germany, Holland, France, South Korea, Poland, Japan, Argentina, Chile, Mexico, Spain, Italy, Greece, and so on.
Yes, war does drive a lot of research and development. But not the sort of war that's going on in Iraq, mind you. The US is so vastly advanced technologically that such research isn't really necessary. They can already destroy entire cities like Fallujah with relative ease. Killing people isn't a challenge for them any more.
Of course, the US, Britain, etc., are still getting their asses kicked daily by the citizenry of Iraq who have had enough of their incompetent and anti-democratic presence there. So perhaps more research and development does have to take place. It wouldn't be in the field of technology, but rather in that of the social sciences (ie. learning how to not alienate the rest of the world).
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It must be nice forgetting what you did six hours ago. I mean, let's say you went to the pub. You drink a bit, and in the end you fuck another man. I mean, you nail his ass raw, and he splatters his man juice all over your face. You feel guilty and filthy for six hours, but then you completely forget it even happened! Now, it's good that you don't feel guilty about it, but what do you go and do? You go to the pub, drink a bit, and you're off fucking men again.
Such forgetfulness has its pros and cons, I suppose. You don't feel bad about your mistakes, but you make them again and again. Of course, since you don't realize you're repeatedly making mistake, you're quite happy, in a naive sort of way.
"Theoretically, giving the UN control of the root DNS would give every member nation a share in the responsibility."
Yeah, theoretically. But fuck theory at this time. This is a practical matter we're dealing with. The UN is not the ideal body to deal with such matters. I mean, look at the WIPO. It's been nothing but trouble. Now we have shitty WIPO-standardized legality infecting numerous other nations. Let's not let that sort of nonsense happen to the Internet as well.
Centralized anything is proven time and time again to be bad, be it computer systems, economic systems, intellectual property frameworks or whatnot.
But you're not considering the economics of such a change. If some country were going to come up with their own version of HTML, or make changes to the TCP/IP protocols, then they would most likely only be cutting themselves off from the rest of the world.
Even a larger nation, like China or the US, would only be harming themselves if they tried a stunt like that. People in other nations could not interact with the modified systems, and thus the modified system would become isolated. When it comes to commercial matters, that's not a good idea. You don't get foreign clients by making your web site inaccessible to them.
So chances are that things would continue much as they do today. The only way to maximize utilization of the Internet is to conform. Those who fail to conform would only harm themselves, and the only option they have to prevent such harm is to conform.
Indeed, he may very well be a troll.
After recently working with the Mozilla codebase, I'm surprised that flaws aren't found more often. To be honest, it's a very complex beast. Perhaps overly complex. The worst part, however, is the outdated documentation. It displays the sort of attributes that often lead to bugs and security flaws.
Now, what really interests me is in how horrible the quality of the Internet Explorer code must be for it to run into so many problems. Considering how unappealing Mozilla was, I can't even begin to imagine how absolutely terrible the IE codebase is.
Perhaps somebody with experience with both could, assuming NDAs don't get in the way, describe how the quality of the two codebases compare.
I would expect the behavior to differ between GNOME apps, KDE apps, Mozilla-based apps, and Windows apps. As long as you stick to one general environment, the consistency is usually quite good. Unfortunately, that's changing in the Windows world, as outlined previously. But when it comes to KDE, and less so GNOME, the consistency is there, and it's quite good. If you go mixing different environments together then you're going to run into differences.
It's not surprising that you ran into problems with Firefox. It's quite disappointing that the most common Linux builds are against GTK+ and GNOME, rather than against QT and KDE. QT and KDE have proven time and time again to be far more consistent, and the development is more coordinated. You could always try using Konqueror, for instance. It integrates far better into KDE than Firefox integrates into GNOME.
That's quite surprising! I have found the opposite to be true. Any decent Linux distro (ie. Debian-based distros, SuSE, but not Fedora) I've used within the past three or so years has detected all of my hardware perfectly, without the need to search around for drivers from the vendor. Then again, I do not use radically unusual hardware, so perhaps that is why I have yet to run into any problems.
Perhaps there's some troublesome hardware you have that you could list the name and model number of, so that we can know to avoid it if possible in the future?
Could you give us some concrete examples?
I mean, we can't do anything to help improve your Linux experience if you never tell us what exactly was wrong!
These days I find that different Windows apps are beginning to look nothing alike. You have renegades like WinAmp, with their godawful themes. Then there is the removal of the toolbar in the upcoming release of Office. Of course there's also Mozilla-based software with its themes. And software like GAIM, which can use various GTK+ themes.
At least with most X11 toolkits you can go with a fairly standard Motif theme, if you really want consistency.
Perhaps you're not aware, but TripMaster is quickly becoming one of the most powerful Slashdot users. He has generated a lot of strife, but has also gained many supporters. Indeed, he's one to watch for in the future.
That said, it's important that we learn who exactly he is. Find out what his background is, and if he can back up his posts with experience, qualifications, credentials and results.
Microsoft hasn't sued anyone over patents they hold, ...
... yet. Perhaps this will awaken them to the financial gains possible through such lawsuits.
.. your average Joe and Jill American. At least not directly, as far as they're aware. Baseball does, unfortunately. That is why, as sad as it is, real issues don't get the attention they deserve, while farcery like athletes using steroids does.
In this case the user was correct. Potentially misleading statements were made by KOffice representatives.
While it isn't necessary to worship the users, it is also completely unnecessary to blatantly insult them in public. It makes not only the KOffice project look terrible and immature, but it also reflects badly on the entire KDE project.
It's not a matter of "entitlement". It's a matter of being professional and polite. That is something that apparently that KOffice developer struggled with. The open source community will never gain significant grounds in the commercial market, where professionalism is a must, with insults being thrown around like that.
Well, could you tell us about some of your credentials? Where did you do your graduate studies, for instance? Have you written any notable papers? What areas do you perform research in? What sort of positions have you held in the commercial world?
Indeed, I'm nearing 70, and have worked in the computer industry for a very long time. There have been a number of times that I have envied the young.
One such time was at work, probably around 1995 or 1996. In order to increase the productivity at our firm we installed several Internet-enabled workstations for various managers, secretaries and workers.
After a while we noticed some rather work-unrelated web sites showing up as being accessed from a particular workstation, which happened to be in the office of one of the young guys in finance. They were rather peculiar fetish sites. In any case, some of us in IT thought that we should alert this worker's higher-up to what was happening.
It was decided that several of us would discuss the matter with him. So we headed up to his office, and knocked on his door, and opened it. Much to our surprise, he was there with a massive boner, ejaculate all over. He must have been in the middle of it when we knocked, because he was quickly trying to clean the mess off of the keyboard and his pants.
It didn't bother me that he was whacking his cock in the office, or that he got his semen on the computer's keyboard. What bothered me was that he was able to get an erection, and I wasn't. So even though I knew far more about technology than he did, he was able to get a boner and I couldn't. I was trumped.
How old are you, TripMaster?
Let's take your example of assembly versus C++ versus some other language. Consider the software that was written in assembly back in the 1950s and 1960s. Sure, there were some pretty impressive pieces of work. Various compilers, OS/360, and whatnot. But compared to software today, such items are of a level of complexity often expected from first or second year undergraduate Comp. Sci. students.
.NET runtime. Those are fairly complex motherfuckers. Far more complex than anything that was even conceived a few decades back.
Sure, we're not using assembly today, but even some of the more minor systems implemented in C++ are far more complex than anything that was written in pure assembly several decade ago. I mean, look at something like an optimizing JIT Java virtual machine or a
Eventually the knowledge will be passed along to the younger generations. They'll pick up where us oldies have left off. Indeed, it is often said that it is more difficult for them. We have left them with systems that are far more complex than were left to us when we all started. I trust in our younger generations. They'll be able to advance our technological knowledge. And the best thing is that we're now drawing from the most creative and brilliant minds of India, China, Korea and many other nations. We're bound to make tremendous discoveries just because we now have so many talented people working in the technology field.
Some public relations improvements are also required. They are mainly needed because of incidents like:
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Indeed, it is completely unacceptable for developers of KDE and various KDE-related projects like KOffice to attack the users of their product like that. It gives all such products a horrible image when rogue developers are throwing around such awful insults in public.
Compared to SuSE or Debian, Fedora is a lousy distro. I ran into numerous problems with it, too. Indeed, as you found, things often run far better under SuSE, Debian, or basically any other non-RedHat/non-Fedora distro. While your machine isn't the most powerful beast, it should be more than sufficient for a decent KDE experience. It's unfortunate that RedHat/Fedora failed you so badly. At least you were able to get a solid SuSE installation working.
It bothers me that Fedora is often recommended to new Linux users, yet it is often nothing but problematic. Its low quality probably does more to turn users off of Linux than anything else, which is awful because most other distros are far superior to Fedora.
Well, then. That's understandable. From my experiences, RedHat is one of the worst distros to use. Fedora is even worse. I wasn't able to get one of the earlier Fedora releases to install on my system (which runs Debian and SuSE just fine). Bitched about the CD being corrupt, even after redownloading the file from a different server and burning it again. I'd be hardpressed to recommend RedHat, especially to enterprise users, when SuSE is available and often works just as well, if not better.
I wish he would have given us more information regarding the problems he ran into. I'm talking about system specs, the name and version of the Linux distro used, and more information regarding the software they apparently had so much trouble installing.
When problems do happen, the open source community is notorious for getting them fixed very quickly. If he were to provide us, the community, with more details about the problems he encountered, I just know they could be solved for him and potentially for many other users in a similar boat.
A paper ballot listing the candidates names, along with a pencil to mark a vote on the paper ballot, have proven time and time again for years on end to be the true tools of democracy. They just work, in countries like Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Hungary, Belgium, Germany, Holland, France, South Korea, Poland, Japan, Argentina, Chile, Mexico, Spain, Italy, Greece, and so on.
Yes, war does drive a lot of research and development. But not the sort of war that's going on in Iraq, mind you. The US is so vastly advanced technologically that such research isn't really necessary. They can already destroy entire cities like Fallujah with relative ease. Killing people isn't a challenge for them any more.
Of course, the US, Britain, etc., are still getting their asses kicked daily by the citizenry of Iraq who have had enough of their incompetent and anti-democratic presence there. So perhaps more research and development does have to take place. It wouldn't be in the field of technology, but rather in that of the social sciences (ie. learning how to not alienate the rest of the world).
Bringing people freedom while preserving national security is certainly not a waste of money in my book.
I think there's faeces on your book.