I think they are just waiting for both QT4 & KDE 4 before doing a complete port. Ports using Cygwin and Colinux are being worked on in the meantime.
I don't doubt that a port could be done eventually. My problem with the statement is that they're saying it could be done within a year. Frankly, I think that's just as misleading as the statements from Microsoft.
Will QT 4 and KDE 4 be ported to Windows within a year? It's very possible that they (specifically KDE 4) won't be, or at least KDE 4 won't be in a very usable state.
It's good that he corrected the false claims made by Microsoft. But to turn around and make claims that may turn out to be just as false isn't good for the KOffice project's reputation, it isn't good for the open source community's reputation, and it could very well be used as fuel against such groups in the future.
But that's just it. They still have to get kdelibs ported. That won't necessarily be an easy task, let alone one that can be finished within a year. Besides, they'll have to use QT 4, as it is the first recent release of QT with a GPL edition for Windows. While it probably can be done eventually, to suggest that it will be done within a year is setting unreasonable goals for the project. And it is especially unwise to put such potentially misleading statements in an open letter which is denouncing a rival for their use of misleading statements!
My grandmother is dead. Long dead. Dead before the PDP-1, even. Learning and using LaTeX is the least of her problems. I'd image she's far more concerned with keeping dirt and worms out of her rotting anus.
"KOffice is the most comprehensive of all office suites in existence, comprising no less than 11 different components in one well-integrated package."
Is it really, though? I mean, it's one thing to have 11 different components. But it's another to have all those components working well. While the very core KOffice applications like KWord are acceptable, some of the other components aren't exactly the most usable. To declare KOffice as being "the most comprehensive" office suite might be somewhat incorrect.
"Last, but not least: Within a year, KOffice will likely run on Windows as well."
This could be a very dangerous thing to claim. Let us say that in a year, KOffice is not running on Windows. This claim has now left the KOffice team in a very difficult position. They have no choice now but to include support for Windows within a year. Otherwise Microsoft and others could point to this letter as being a work of deception.
I commend Wallin for attempting to set the record straight regarding the claim that KOffice was derived from StarOffice, but perhaps some of the claims are going a bit too far.
In Massachusetts, is it considered criminal to mislead the government or the administration in such a fashion? Could legal action be taken against Microsoft based on these blatantly false claims (ie. that KOffice is directly derived from StarOffice) that were presented to the administration as fact?
Why even bother with word processors these days when LaTeX is more than capable of the vast majority of document typesetting needs? It does take a bit longer to learn that Word, but everyone I know who has learned it has become far more efficient and can produce documents that are far more professional.
The taxation never drops because many people in your area must not have the balls to stand up and say, "Motherfuckers, I have had enough of this taxation!" Like your Founding Fathers showed time and time again, the only way for the citizenry to avoid the greed of government is to take a stand and demand that the taxation be reduced.
You could always try using some very fine sandpaper to even out the surface.
Of course, if you fuck up and damage your iPod Nano even more by doing so, it is neither my fault nor Apple's. Sometimes one must take responsibility for damage caused by their own negligence. And get a cover for it, so it doesn't get scraped by your keys in the future.
And what will happen a couple years after that when the economies of India and China mature to the point where they trump those of America and Europe several times over?
Can you tell us more about your experiences working with the NASA engineers? Did they ever talk about the possibility of relying on Soviet technology if their designs failed?
But they don't have any choice. Either they purchase this equipment, or they become irrelevant. This purchase is necessary for their very survival, even if it bruises a few egos.
Sometimes one is forced to choose between a shitty choice or death. In this case they're chosen the shitty situation which may allow for their survival.
Are you suggesting that a Soviet-style collapse of the American republic is soon to follow? Indeed, that assertion may not be so far from the truth. With the natural disasters in the central southern states, many there may be willing to leave the Union. And their leaving may open the door for the more liberal east and west coast states, also tiring of incompetent federal rule, to leave as well.
Indeed. There is quite a difference between European and American engineering. Perhaps that's because of cultural differences.
Europe has, for the most part, suffered from limited access to resources. America, on the other hand, has for its history had nearly unlimited access to natural resources.
European engineers have for centuries been forced to use the minimal amount of material, and to come up with designs that just plain work from the very beginning. They don't have the resources to waste on the actual product, let alone on testing models that may be destroyed or rendered useless.
Indeed, it may very well be these resource constrains that lead to European-engineered items being of supreme quality.
Often it is a very good idea to buy the highest quality technology. Indeed, that is what NASA needs to do right now considering their extremely awful image in the eyes of the public (following the Challenger and Columbia disasters). Any more disasters and NASA is fucked. At least by purchasing this former Soviet equipment they can blame the Russians for any problems. Faulty manufacturing and engineering done by the Russians, and not by NASA, for instance. Considering NASA's current position, they have very little option but to prevent further incident, even if it means resorting to Soviet technology.
It sounds like the problem may be that you're unaware of effective search techniques.
Indeed, if you want to find the TeX Users Group website all you have to do at Google is a search for "tug typesetting". Low and behold, it's the first site listed! And Google's two-line preview helps indicate that it isn't a site containing gratuitous images of animal sex and buttrape. Likewise for LaTeX related searches.
I would hardly call an online lingerie store a purveyor of hardcore pornography. Hell, many children (and perhaps even your own, if you're a father) have seen their mothers wearing such skimpy outfits while at home relaxing.
"News for Nerds" does not suggest that everyone here is a network security expert, nor does it suggest that all the readers here are legal experts, nor does it suggest that everyone here is a physics expert.
"Nerds" often have a high degree of understanding of one particular field. But that does not suggest that they're proficient in each and very topic. Somebody might be a supreme physics "nerd", yet know very little about basic networking utilities like whois or traceroute or nslookup. Likewise, a networking expert might not know everything about the most recent understanding concerning multidimensional trans-deltonic pseudostring theory.
There's nothing wrong with posting an article that appeals to nerds who do not have knowledge of some other field of nerdery. It's better that they learn than remain in the dark, even if as a network specialist the existence of such tools is the most basic of knowledge to you.
After having Internet access for well over a decade and a half, I cannot recall ever having stumbled upon hardcore pornography while partaking in what might be considered "normal" surfing. Never on FTP sites, nor gopher, nor on the WWW. Of course, if you go looking for information regarding topics that are less than reputable you will no doubt run into an occasional penis-in-vagina type of an ad. But otherwise, I'd say it's extremely rare to run into such material.
If anything, any problems of unrequested hardcore pornography may be due to spyware and the use of insecure web browsers. Of course, it is quite easy to switch to another browser that is not as vulnerable. There are many such browsers available, as I'm sure you're well aware.
As a non-Christian I am able to objectively learn about the different followers or, in some cases, bastardizers of the teachings of Christ. I don't have the years of indoctrination from a certain group (be them Baptists, Mormons, Catholics, etc.) telling me that they're right, and everyone else is wrong. I can understand without the inherent bias of other Christians who were brought up in a group setting what Christ actually taught, and how it applies to situations today.
And in this case I sense a severe bastardizing of what Christ taught. Christ did not teach us to persecute those who had minded their own business, and had not participated in the harm of others.
Indeed, it is understandable for Christians (and everyone else) to be against child pornography. Chances are the child was hurt quite badly, both physically and mentally. That is why Christ would have condemned child pornography, or any sexual act directly involving a child. Christ condemned the harming of fellow humans.
On the other hand, scatplay between two or more consenting adults does not harm anyone. Christ would have realized that, and would not have sought for their persecution.
Well, it must've been a real revelation for Zonk to learn such commands existed. Perhaps that is why it made the front page. I mean, it's not completely unreasonable. Many Windows users are not aware that they have such tools at their disposal. I think it's better to make such users aware of these utilities rather than leave them in the dark.
Perhaps they could use such tools to run a whois on NBC.com. You know, to find out that they're owned and run by General Electric. The same General Electric who is involved with the war industry. Imagine that! The owners of TV stations which run news programs being involved in the manufacturing of weapons. Now, they wouldn't want to promote war on their news broadcasts in order to increase profits for their war-making interests, would they?!
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I think they are just waiting for both QT4 & KDE 4 before doing a complete port. Ports using Cygwin and Colinux are being worked on in the meantime.
I don't doubt that a port could be done eventually. My problem with the statement is that they're saying it could be done within a year. Frankly, I think that's just as misleading as the statements from Microsoft.
Will QT 4 and KDE 4 be ported to Windows within a year? It's very possible that they (specifically KDE 4) won't be, or at least KDE 4 won't be in a very usable state.
It's good that he corrected the false claims made by Microsoft. But to turn around and make claims that may turn out to be just as false isn't good for the KOffice project's reputation, it isn't good for the open source community's reputation, and it could very well be used as fuel against such groups in the future.
But that's just it. They still have to get kdelibs ported. That won't necessarily be an easy task, let alone one that can be finished within a year. Besides, they'll have to use QT 4, as it is the first recent release of QT with a GPL edition for Windows. While it probably can be done eventually, to suggest that it will be done within a year is setting unreasonable goals for the project. And it is especially unwise to put such potentially misleading statements in an open letter which is denouncing a rival for their use of misleading statements!
My grandmother is dead. Long dead. Dead before the PDP-1, even. Learning and using LaTeX is the least of her problems. I'd image she's far more concerned with keeping dirt and worms out of her rotting anus.
Wallin made statements like:
"KOffice is the most comprehensive of all office suites in existence, comprising no less than 11 different components in one well-integrated package."
Is it really, though? I mean, it's one thing to have 11 different components. But it's another to have all those components working well. While the very core KOffice applications like KWord are acceptable, some of the other components aren't exactly the most usable. To declare KOffice as being "the most comprehensive" office suite might be somewhat incorrect.
"Last, but not least: Within a year, KOffice will likely run on Windows as well."
This could be a very dangerous thing to claim. Let us say that in a year, KOffice is not running on Windows. This claim has now left the KOffice team in a very difficult position. They have no choice now but to include support for Windows within a year. Otherwise Microsoft and others could point to this letter as being a work of deception.
I commend Wallin for attempting to set the record straight regarding the claim that KOffice was derived from StarOffice, but perhaps some of the claims are going a bit too far.
In Massachusetts, is it considered criminal to mislead the government or the administration in such a fashion? Could legal action be taken against Microsoft based on these blatantly false claims (ie. that KOffice is directly derived from StarOffice) that were presented to the administration as fact?
Why even bother with word processors these days when LaTeX is more than capable of the vast majority of document typesetting needs? It does take a bit longer to learn that Word, but everyone I know who has learned it has become far more efficient and can produce documents that are far more professional.
The taxation never drops because many people in your area must not have the balls to stand up and say, "Motherfuckers, I have had enough of this taxation!" Like your Founding Fathers showed time and time again, the only way for the citizenry to avoid the greed of government is to take a stand and demand that the taxation be reduced.
Does anyone know if there was any pressure from the oil/petrol interests, overt or otherwise, to prevent this project from going forward?
You could always try using some very fine sandpaper to even out the surface.
Of course, if you fuck up and damage your iPod Nano even more by doing so, it is neither my fault nor Apple's. Sometimes one must take responsibility for damage caused by their own negligence. And get a cover for it, so it doesn't get scraped by your keys in the future.
And what will happen a couple years after that when the economies of India and China mature to the point where they trump those of America and Europe several times over?
The current theory explaining that phenomenon supposes much cock suckery to be the cause.
I don't mind if you do! Thanks!
Can you tell us more about your experiences working with the NASA engineers? Did they ever talk about the possibility of relying on Soviet technology if their designs failed?
But they don't have any choice. Either they purchase this equipment, or they become irrelevant. This purchase is necessary for their very survival, even if it bruises a few egos.
Sometimes one is forced to choose between a shitty choice or death. In this case they're chosen the shitty situation which may allow for their survival.
Are you suggesting that a Soviet-style collapse of the American republic is soon to follow? Indeed, that assertion may not be so far from the truth. With the natural disasters in the central southern states, many there may be willing to leave the Union. And their leaving may open the door for the more liberal east and west coast states, also tiring of incompetent federal rule, to leave as well.
Indeed. There is quite a difference between European and American engineering. Perhaps that's because of cultural differences.
Europe has, for the most part, suffered from limited access to resources. America, on the other hand, has for its history had nearly unlimited access to natural resources.
European engineers have for centuries been forced to use the minimal amount of material, and to come up with designs that just plain work from the very beginning. They don't have the resources to waste on the actual product, let alone on testing models that may be destroyed or rendered useless.
Indeed, it may very well be these resource constrains that lead to European-engineered items being of supreme quality.
Some members of the Slashdot community have called for Zonk to be replaced by TripMaster Monkey.
Often it is a very good idea to buy the highest quality technology. Indeed, that is what NASA needs to do right now considering their extremely awful image in the eyes of the public (following the Challenger and Columbia disasters). Any more disasters and NASA is fucked. At least by purchasing this former Soviet equipment they can blame the Russians for any problems. Faulty manufacturing and engineering done by the Russians, and not by NASA, for instance. Considering NASA's current position, they have very little option but to prevent further incident, even if it means resorting to Soviet technology.
It sounds like the problem may be that you're unaware of effective search techniques.
Indeed, if you want to find the TeX Users Group website all you have to do at Google is a search for "tug typesetting". Low and behold, it's the first site listed! And Google's two-line preview helps indicate that it isn't a site containing gratuitous images of animal sex and buttrape. Likewise for LaTeX related searches.
I would hardly call an online lingerie store a purveyor of hardcore pornography. Hell, many children (and perhaps even your own, if you're a father) have seen their mothers wearing such skimpy outfits while at home relaxing.
"News for Nerds" does not suggest that everyone here is a network security expert, nor does it suggest that all the readers here are legal experts, nor does it suggest that everyone here is a physics expert.
"Nerds" often have a high degree of understanding of one particular field. But that does not suggest that they're proficient in each and very topic. Somebody might be a supreme physics "nerd", yet know very little about basic networking utilities like whois or traceroute or nslookup. Likewise, a networking expert might not know everything about the most recent understanding concerning multidimensional trans-deltonic pseudostring theory.
There's nothing wrong with posting an article that appeals to nerds who do not have knowledge of some other field of nerdery. It's better that they learn than remain in the dark, even if as a network specialist the existence of such tools is the most basic of knowledge to you.
Oh my God, that is so fucking funny! I'm laughing and my scrotum is bouncing. Oh Lord, my scrotum is bouncing!
After having Internet access for well over a decade and a half, I cannot recall ever having stumbled upon hardcore pornography while partaking in what might be considered "normal" surfing. Never on FTP sites, nor gopher, nor on the WWW. Of course, if you go looking for information regarding topics that are less than reputable you will no doubt run into an occasional penis-in-vagina type of an ad. But otherwise, I'd say it's extremely rare to run into such material.
If anything, any problems of unrequested hardcore pornography may be due to spyware and the use of insecure web browsers. Of course, it is quite easy to switch to another browser that is not as vulnerable. There are many such browsers available, as I'm sure you're well aware.
"Bone up" as in "take a lot of cock up the butt"? No, thanks. I'd rather not.
As a non-Christian I am able to objectively learn about the different followers or, in some cases, bastardizers of the teachings of Christ. I don't have the years of indoctrination from a certain group (be them Baptists, Mormons, Catholics, etc.) telling me that they're right, and everyone else is wrong. I can understand without the inherent bias of other Christians who were brought up in a group setting what Christ actually taught, and how it applies to situations today.
And in this case I sense a severe bastardizing of what Christ taught. Christ did not teach us to persecute those who had minded their own business, and had not participated in the harm of others.
Indeed, it is understandable for Christians (and everyone else) to be against child pornography. Chances are the child was hurt quite badly, both physically and mentally. That is why Christ would have condemned child pornography, or any sexual act directly involving a child. Christ condemned the harming of fellow humans.
On the other hand, scatplay between two or more consenting adults does not harm anyone. Christ would have realized that, and would not have sought for their persecution.
I can't picture Jesus promoting the persecution of people who were minding their own business, and not harming anyone in any way.
Well, it must've been a real revelation for Zonk to learn such commands existed. Perhaps that is why it made the front page. I mean, it's not completely unreasonable. Many Windows users are not aware that they have such tools at their disposal. I think it's better to make such users aware of these utilities rather than leave them in the dark.
Perhaps they could use such tools to run a whois on NBC.com. You know, to find out that they're owned and run by General Electric. The same General Electric who is involved with the war industry. Imagine that! The owners of TV stations which run news programs being involved in the manufacturing of weapons. Now, they wouldn't want to promote war on their news broadcasts in order to increase profits for their war-making interests, would they?!