Well said. Those that want to be offended will find offence everywhere. They are also destroyers of any meritocratic idea, because they only care about form, not about substance.
I don't think they are misguided. I think they have found out that playing the "victim card" gets them power and free lunches and they are playing it as hard as they can. Makes them parasites and destroyers. And I think they know exactly what they are doing.
Actually chances of it being the former or "I want a free lunch because I have a vagina" are so high, that it is a reasonable default assumption that anybody calling themselves a "feminist" is not an egalitarian. With that, the burden of proof reverses. My apologies to all feminists that are egalitarians have not quite seen that yet, but this movement has been thoroughly corrupted from the inside and you should leave it.
There seems to be a considerable overlap between "fascism" and "feminism" these days. I mean, the very name "feminism" is already sexist to the extreme. I am an egalitarian, but I will never be a feminist.
I find it funny how this crap is always justified by calling it "safe, inclusive, and welcoming". Come to think of it, fascism is also "safe, inclusive, and welcoming" if you subscribe to their ideas. The same principle applies here.
You probably are unaware how such a code can very easily be twisted far beyond all sanity. History is full of examples. For example, have a look what was called "heresy" at one time or another.
It does not mean anything anyways, it is just sort of a "prayer" you have to give to be in, no actual belief necessary. But it is tedious and a waste of time. So can we maybe just have some script that gets configured for the various SJW cesspools and adds all this crap they insist on automatically?
It feels more like a blanket list of vague infractions to have on hand so that they can rid of anyone they feel like.
This is how the inquisition works.
Let's face it, this is the end of the FreeBDS project (unless this stupidity is reversed). They let themselves taken over by SJWs that do not care about technology, that abhor meritocracy (because they cannot compete) and that will use any underhanded and dishonorable way to get rid of the competition, so they do not appear so abysmally incompetent. The longer-term effects are that everybody competent leaves and the project withers and dies.
On the conspiracy-theory side, this may actually be an attack by certain TLAs that abhor the freedom and spirit of the project and that are now trying to destroy it this way. And they will be successful if this stands.
In the end I expect it will, because most people that have or want power or money use "decency" only for virtue signalling, but do not actually believe in it. Thiel may just be more honest in his evil than others. Which, paradoxically, makes him a little less evil.
Pretty much, yes. And I agree, "automation" does sort-of imply that somebody with actual intelligence thought about how to do this and then creates an artifact that implements this. While "training" can be a lot cheaper, it has a lot of unexpected pitfalls and may behave in an unexpected fashion even with things that seem to be close to the training set.
As usual (and as has happened many times before) there are always the cheerleaders with no clue that see the world fundamentally changing, and the actually smart people that see just one more tool in the toolbox.
This is not about truth or facts. (I did read the memo and about everything reported on it is a lie or at least gross misdirection.) This is about a narrative being kept alive, namely that it is pure the fault of male sexism that there are not more women in tech. Anybody that tries to bring actual facts and arguments into this is going to be stomped in with extreme force as that endangers this narrative. As could be observed nicely in the case at hand.
The memo tried to find ways to fix the problem. That is something modern feminism cannot tolerate (hence the extreme response). If they lose their victim-status, what do they have left?
Was trying to find ways to fix the issue. Modern feminism does not want the issues fixed. They want to remain victims because that gets them a free lunch. Hence this was stomped on as harshly as possible.
And you do not seem to have the least clue what you are talking about. Apple is trying very hard to make sure they cannot do that in order to not lose all their business.
Actually, one of the defining characteristics of fascism is disrespect of the individual and its freedoms. So yes, this is fascism. That China wants their own bit of fascism does not invalidate that similar forces are hard at work in the US. Or look at the Germans that now have censorship again by a sneaky legal trick. All the really bad old ideas are being reanimated by exceptionally bad people that are not fit to wield power of any kind, yet somehow (because the general population is deeply asleep) managed to get into high and highest government offices.
As even the NSA had it's malware stolen, we have solid proof that secrets cannot be kept reliably. So yes. If they do this, it will have catastrophic effects. Of course, the proponents of doing so have not enough actual understanding (and extreme egos in addition) to be able to understand that. They must be stopped nonetheless or they will destroy society.
Actually, it is completely valid and convincing. You just need to see what they actually mean: They want to keep you safe from yourself, by being able to lock you up or kill you whenever you have an unauthorized thought. That makes everybody safe that does not have such thoughts, and the rest are obviously "criminals". This is a fundamentally fascist idea and it is on the raise again. Like the last fascist catastrophes did not happen.
Simple: Because the person that made this does not care about the OS.
Well said. Those that want to be offended will find offence everywhere. They are also destroyers of any meritocratic idea, because they only care about form, not about substance.
You seem to be unaware how the actual implementation of these things universally turns out.
Rather obviously not. In light of the known facts it is either a direct lie to claim so or an extreme act of stupidity.
I don't think they are misguided. I think they have found out that playing the "victim card" gets them power and free lunches and they are playing it as hard as they can. Makes them parasites and destroyers. And I think they know exactly what they are doing.
Actually chances of it being the former or "I want a free lunch because I have a vagina" are so high, that it is a reasonable default assumption that anybody calling themselves a "feminist" is not an egalitarian. With that, the burden of proof reverses. My apologies to all feminists that are egalitarians have not quite seen that yet, but this movement has been thoroughly corrupted from the inside and you should leave it.
There seems to be a considerable overlap between "fascism" and "feminism" these days. I mean, the very name "feminism" is already sexist to the extreme. I am an egalitarian, but I will never be a feminist.
I find it funny how this crap is always justified by calling it "safe, inclusive, and welcoming". Come to think of it, fascism is also "safe, inclusive, and welcoming" if you subscribe to their ideas. The same principle applies here.
You probably are unaware how such a code can very easily be twisted far beyond all sanity. History is full of examples. For example, have a look what was called "heresy" at one time or another.
That sucks. But thanks for the explanation.
It does not mean anything anyways, it is just sort of a "prayer" you have to give to be in, no actual belief necessary. But it is tedious and a waste of time. So can we maybe just have some script that gets configured for the various SJW cesspools and adds all this crap they insist on automatically?
It feels more like a blanket list of vague infractions to have on hand so that they can rid of anyone they feel like.
This is how the inquisition works.
Let's face it, this is the end of the FreeBDS project (unless this stupidity is reversed). They let themselves taken over by SJWs that do not care about technology, that abhor meritocracy (because they cannot compete) and that will use any underhanded and dishonorable way to get rid of the competition, so they do not appear so abysmally incompetent. The longer-term effects are that everybody competent leaves and the project withers and dies.
On the conspiracy-theory side, this may actually be an attack by certain TLAs that abhor the freedom and spirit of the project and that are now trying to destroy it this way. And they will be successful if this stands.
I certainly wouldn't.
Which makes you scum, but does increase your chances of economic success. Perverted incentives at work.
In the end I expect it will, because most people that have or want power or money use "decency" only for virtue signalling, but do not actually believe in it. Thiel may just be more honest in his evil than others. Which, paradoxically, makes him a little less evil.
Pretty much, yes. And I agree, "automation" does sort-of imply that somebody with actual intelligence thought about how to do this and then creates an artifact that implements this. While "training" can be a lot cheaper, it has a lot of unexpected pitfalls and may behave in an unexpected fashion even with things that seem to be close to the training set.
As usual (and as has happened many times before) there are always the cheerleaders with no clue that see the world fundamentally changing, and the actually smart people that see just one more tool in the toolbox.
I mean, for fuck's sake, the ruling is based on the people D'amore quoted, saying his conclusions were wrong.
What more do you need? What you call facts aren't. At all.
Only problem with that is that it is not actually true.
This is not about truth or facts. (I did read the memo and about everything reported on it is a lie or at least gross misdirection.) This is about a narrative being kept alive, namely that it is pure the fault of male sexism that there are not more women in tech. Anybody that tries to bring actual facts and arguments into this is going to be stomped in with extreme force as that endangers this narrative. As could be observed nicely in the case at hand.
The memo tried to find ways to fix the problem. That is something modern feminism cannot tolerate (hence the extreme response). If they lose their victim-status, what do they have left?
While you probably meant to be funny, this is actually a major reason why women have stopped enrolling in CS in Europe.
Was trying to find ways to fix the issue. Modern feminism does not want the issues fixed. They want to remain victims because that gets them a free lunch. Hence this was stomped on as harshly as possible.
And you do not seem to have the least clue what you are talking about. Apple is trying very hard to make sure they cannot do that in order to not lose all their business.
Actually, one of the defining characteristics of fascism is disrespect of the individual and its freedoms. So yes, this is fascism. That China wants their own bit of fascism does not invalidate that similar forces are hard at work in the US. Or look at the Germans that now have censorship again by a sneaky legal trick. All the really bad old ideas are being reanimated by exceptionally bad people that are not fit to wield power of any kind, yet somehow (because the general population is deeply asleep) managed to get into high and highest government offices.
Also remember that there is a real overlap between "cops" and "criminals". So access to such back-doors by criminals is basically ensured.
As even the NSA had it's malware stolen, we have solid proof that secrets cannot be kept reliably. So yes. If they do this, it will have catastrophic effects. Of course, the proponents of doing so have not enough actual understanding (and extreme egos in addition) to be able to understand that. They must be stopped nonetheless or they will destroy society.
Actually, it is completely valid and convincing. You just need to see what they actually mean: They want to keep you safe from yourself, by being able to lock you up or kill you whenever you have an unauthorized thought. That makes everybody safe that does not have such thoughts, and the rest are obviously "criminals". This is a fundamentally fascist idea and it is on the raise again. Like the last fascist catastrophes did not happen.