Also, many of those who gain 2 years in life expectancy lose many more years of peace and quiet having to raise their brats.
Oh, yes. I know some people with young kids that would sometimes just like to drown them and be done with it. (Not seriously, of course, but you get the point...)
At only 2 years it is also quite likely other factors are causing both. For example, religious people have more children and live longer. But they also waste a massive amount of lifetime and brainpower on their religion, so that is a net loss as well.
An that is the worst problem I see with this approach. The Germans have this stupid idea that just making a law that forbids something fixes all problems with it. They always try it and it usually fails, sometimes spectacularly. Hence I believe that most Germans do not even begin to understand that suppressing certain kinds of opinions does not make them go away at all. Instead it lends credibility to them by the "David and Goliath"-effect, because the state acts like a bully.
Well, I sort of agree, but the thing is the Germans have extreme negative experience with what hate-speech can do. Maybe if the US had had a 3rd Reich on their ground, things would look different there too. That said, as far as I understand it this is about "kill xyz now"-type of speech.
The Internet has never been owned by the US (except at the very beginning when it existed only there), and most of it has not been build by the US. It is also not under US control, even if that propaganda-statement is often repeated. But the truth is, if the US fell of the planet, the Internet would just continue to work as all critical components are geo-redundant.
Spoken like a true caveman though! It is easy to not like people like you.
I agree to that. My take is that they are suing the manufacturer and not the company is a strong indicator they do not have a case against the company.
Depending on the country, they would open themselves up for criminal prosecution and a prohibition to continue to do business in that country. They certainly do not want any of that.
In fact, that has already started. There is a way around though. For example MS does not operate the German MS cloud, Deutsche Telekom does and they will just laugh at any US court order. That way, German companies can put data of German residents on the MS cloud. Otherwise that would likely be a criminal act.
No, he is advertising a pretty repulsive right-wing populist that promises the world if elected, but will deliver nothing. Kind of like Trump, but worse.
All that said, it seems like the lawsuit is trying to blame the manufacturers of the robots, and that's far less likely to succeed, unless they can prove that the documentation provided to the company by the manufacturers did not include the correct information on how to safely de-energize the machines, which seems highly unlikely.
And that approach would indicate that the worker that died did violate company procedures...
Indeed. Safety equipment that is difficult to use (except when there is no other possibility, e.g. for a "moon-suit") is faulty by definition. When there is no other possibility than complicated safety equipment, it has to be assured that everybody is trained and capable to use it correctly, and this has to be tested and assured regularly by training exercises.
Indeed, and that is a completely standard approach. If the safety equipment was faulty, not present, or there was pressure to not use it, then there is a very good case. If the equipment was there, working, but not used, then there is no case at all. Machinery is always dangerous and you must never bypass safety procedures, or suffer the consequences.
Many people are stupid though. Refer, for example, to all the photos on the Internet where you see somebody operate a circular bench saw without the protection bar. Just stumble once while the thing is running....
At least if you remove the pervasive stupidity of today's press reporting. There is nothing special here. A piece of machinery was programmed wrongly, and there was no independent safety-equipment to stop it or it was not used. This is essentially not different from other machinery-related deaths at all.
"Simple question", my ass. I have seen people train for this type of "argument" (in a train, no less, but they were young and obviously recently indoctrinated). You are infected by a malicious meme of the religious type, and the pathogen defends itself against neutralization or removal. As a consequence, you cannot see reality anymore. There is no way to reach you until you fight it off, which is unlikely to happen.
Sure, the service will be cheaper, but all those wasted hours, because the IT does not really work anymore and all those competent people that will leave because of this...
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Even if you do like kids, bringing them to the world we have today isn't exactly a gift to them...
My take also.
Also, many of those who gain 2 years in life expectancy lose many more years of peace and quiet having to raise their brats.
Oh, yes. I know some people with young kids that would sometimes just like to drown them and be done with it. (Not seriously, of course, but you get the point...)
At only 2 years it is also quite likely other factors are causing both. For example, religious people have more children and live longer. But they also waste a massive amount of lifetime and brainpower on their religion, so that is a net loss as well.
It found a correlation, it did not find a causation. It could well be the other way round or there could be a third factor that causes both things.
Seriously, stop reporting such nonsense.
Fighting over who has more victimness? How pathetic can human beings get?
An that is the worst problem I see with this approach. The Germans have this stupid idea that just making a law that forbids something fixes all problems with it. They always try it and it usually fails, sometimes spectacularly. Hence I believe that most Germans do not even begin to understand that suppressing certain kinds of opinions does not make them go away at all. Instead it lends credibility to them by the "David and Goliath"-effect, because the state acts like a bully.
Well, I sort of agree, but the thing is the Germans have extreme negative experience with what hate-speech can do. Maybe if the US had had a 3rd Reich on their ground, things would look different there too. That said, as far as I understand it this is about "kill xyz now"-type of speech.
The Internet has never been owned by the US (except at the very beginning when it existed only there), and most of it has not been build by the US. It is also not under US control, even if that propaganda-statement is often repeated. But the truth is, if the US fell of the planet, the Internet would just continue to work as all critical components are geo-redundant.
Spoken like a true caveman though! It is easy to not like people like you.
I agree to that. My take is that they are suing the manufacturer and not the company is a strong indicator they do not have a case against the company.
Depending on the country, they would open themselves up for criminal prosecution and a prohibition to continue to do business in that country. They certainly do not want any of that.
In fact, that has already started. There is a way around though. For example MS does not operate the German MS cloud, Deutsche Telekom does and they will just laugh at any US court order. That way, German companies can put data of German residents on the MS cloud. Otherwise that would likely be a criminal act.
It depends on the law were the servers are. Handing over data to US law enforcement if local laws do not allow that is usually a criminal act...
Pretty much. I find that 38% figure pretty damning.
Well, he certainly has experience dismantling and shutting down large organizations. Let's see whether he can to it to a whole nation as well.
No, he is advertising a pretty repulsive right-wing populist that promises the world if elected, but will deliver nothing. Kind of like Trump, but worse.
And if they are caught lying under oath, nothing happens to them.
... but we do not want to tell you and this way we do not have to explain ourselves.
All that said, it seems like the lawsuit is trying to blame the manufacturers of the robots, and that's far less likely to succeed, unless they can prove that the documentation provided to the company by the manufacturers did not include the correct information on how to safely de-energize the machines, which seems highly unlikely.
And that approach would indicate that the worker that died did violate company procedures...
Indeed. Safety equipment that is difficult to use (except when there is no other possibility, e.g. for a "moon-suit") is faulty by definition. When there is no other possibility than complicated safety equipment, it has to be assured that everybody is trained and capable to use it correctly, and this has to be tested and assured regularly by training exercises.
Law enforcement that does not follow the law is just a bunch of armed and dangerous thugs. Sadly, this thing has become the norm again.
Effect: Nothing. Why is this even worth a story?
What is a "furher" supposed to be? And what is "Seig" supposed to mean? Incidentally, your capitalization is wrong.
I love it when the trolls are to dumb to spell even simple things! :-)==)
Indeed, and that is a completely standard approach. If the safety equipment was faulty, not present, or there was pressure to not use it, then there is a very good case. If the equipment was there, working, but not used, then there is no case at all. Machinery is always dangerous and you must never bypass safety procedures, or suffer the consequences.
Many people are stupid though. Refer, for example, to all the photos on the Internet where you see somebody operate a circular bench saw without the protection bar. Just stumble once while the thing is running....
At least if you remove the pervasive stupidity of today's press reporting. There is nothing special here. A piece of machinery was programmed wrongly, and there was no independent safety-equipment to stop it or it was not used. This is essentially not different from other machinery-related deaths at all.
"Simple question", my ass. I have seen people train for this type of "argument" (in a train, no less, but they were young and obviously recently indoctrinated). You are infected by a malicious meme of the religious type, and the pathogen defends itself against neutralization or removal. As a consequence, you cannot see reality anymore. There is no way to reach you until you fight it off, which is unlikely to happen.
Sure, the service will be cheaper, but all those wasted hours, because the IT does not really work anymore and all those competent people that will leave because of this...
Save a penny, lose a million.