I recall frequent infections due to Microsoft Office Macro viruses back in the OS9 days, but since OSX, I've yet to see anything on any of the 60 or so macs I've owned or maintained at my job.
wrongo. I'm not sure what side of the debate you are on here,you may be on my side, but this is another common fallacy. Evolution is not a fact. Evolution is a scientific theory. Well vetted, mature scientific theories like evolution are more powerful than facts because they explain tens of thousands of observable facts and allow for predictions. Those predictions can be tested and those tests either reinforce or weaken the theory. Evolution as a theory is still discussed and tweaked when new studies are published, but the general tenets of the theory are no longer debated amongst scientists.
Okay, since you are the guy who did this, maybe you could buy a Blu-ray player now and kill that format as well. While I've got you here, maybe you could grab a copy of Windows Vista or did you buy that already?
I didn't call anyone dumb, just lazy. I didn't say that people could not understand the film without the narrative, quite the opposite, I stated that people *could* understand the film without the narrative, they were just lazy and didn't want to do the mental work and preferred having a narrator explain everything to them.
I can't believe how many people like the voiceover! Why not just have Morgan Freeman tell you in a folksy Southern lilt what's going to happen throughout the film? The voiceover IMO is only necessary because people are lazy and don't want to cogitate.
If it is Greedo's intention to kill Han and collect the bounty on him, why does he get him at gunpoint and talk to him for so long, why doesn't he just blow him away without any discussion? Does Han catch him "monologueing?"
Yes that's true but the scene is actually quite complex. At the outset Greedo's stated intention is to bring Han to Jabba not to kill him. He draws his gun not with the intention to kill Han, but as coercion. Han begins to remove his gun before Greedo mentions killing him. I guess you could argue that Han being brought to Jabba is the equivalent of death. Even when Greedo says "I've been looking forward to killing you for a long time.", in the context of their conversation, it seems to more mean, "I've been looking forward to seeing you killed [by Jabba]." And that of course is not a known outcome to Han or Greedo. If you consider the other crap scene that Lucas restored with Han walking over Jabba's tail, etc., Han doesn't seem to fear Jabba as eminent death. Anyway, I take your point, the scene is not so clear cut a case.
Yes agreed, Han is definitely an archetype derived from Western mythology and other places, Campbell's The Hero with a Thousand Faces, etc. which is a well documented influence on Lucas. I've seen many a Western with similar characters as you describe: Shane, The Searchers, Doc Holiday in Tombstone, etc...
I would offer this argument: Lucas is a student of various American and World film genres, in this case I spotlight the American Western. If you've watched lots of Westerns as I have, you come to see certain concepts of morality in the old west codified and mythologized. One of those concepts is justice by the gun, self-made justice because the law is not available to protect you. Whoever "draws" first in a Western matters a great deal. Most of the heroes in Westerns had to follow a code whereby they waited until the other fellow made a move, and then they drew quicker and shot straighter. People who drew first without warning, without making it clear they were challenging you were considered killers and were subject to posse justice or retribution. Many characters plead "he drew first" as a socially accepted alibi.
The fact that Han deceitfully plans the removal of his gun from his holster, misdirects Greedo and fires first in cold blood IMO was a very specific coded message from Lucas: Han was very much an anti-hero, redeemed only when he came flying with a star at his back (classic combat tactic) and saved Luke's bacon. If you remove the meaning of that scene with Greedo, you eliminate the arc of the character, there is no character development which IMO reduces the beauty and significance of the artist's vision.
Well I do dislike Microsoft. I don't think it's a prejudice so much as a reasoned position based on the company's products and actions. But I think that is all getting off-topic. Back to the subject at hand: I doubt even Microsoft internally thinks the Zune is a success. Do you think they are popping open bottles of champagne in Redmond due to the "success" of the Zune? I don't think so. Maybe they don't see it as an outright failure, but I would speculate that they are pretty disappointed with it so far.
Sorry to tell you this but there are expectations associated with who you are. A massive corporation with $29 billion cash on hand and dominant control over most widely used computing platform in the world is expected to do better than just slowly gain meager amounts of market share. The expectations for David are different from those for Goliath.
The tenor and content of your post has been repeated in this discussion more than once. Do people really think that there is no qualitative different between Empire Strikes Back and Revenge of the Sith, let's say? The two are just different, one is not substantively better than the other? I can't agree with that at all. Empire Strikes Back is a great film as a stand alone work of art, it has excellent dialogue (many of the best lines I understand were ad libbed by the actors), the arc of the story is dramatic and dark, the pacing is excellent, there is tension, release, character development, characters that are put to dramatic and interesting moral tests, "go to your friends now and risk destroying everything you have worked for." There is nothing remotely like this in Eps 1,2, or 3 in my opinion.
I don't agree. I think there is such thing as well-crafted, scripted, performed, directed, scored cinema (Empire Strikes Back) versus CGI-infused dreck with poor writing and horrible acting. Samuel L. Jackson?!?!?!?!?!?! WTF? You can't just cast somebody because he is your buddy and wants to be in the movie. Good actor, wrong role. Empire is now 27 years old and time enough has passed such that it has been viewed and reviewed and retrospected, etc. and I think most critics agree that it is a classic. Episodes I,II and III will not be looked back on the same way because they are just not good films based on real characteristics (admittedly subjective).
Don't forget the Samurai pics of the 50's and 60's from Japan, by Kurosawa, etc. A jedi is basically just a samurai with katana version 2.0 and force push. The relationship between Episode 4 and "The Hidden Fortress" is well documented and discussed by Lucas.
Yeah, I only said "well-publicized", not acknowledged. Anyway, I've gotten Apple to repair problems that they did not issue press releases acknowledging. I quick trip to the Apple support discussion boards usually confirmed any suspicions that others were experiencing the same problem. Then it just required some patience getting through their tech support checklist before getting to the end where they run out of probing questions and just send you a return repair box.
There was a well publicized manufacturing fault with some MBP's where there was too much cement or too little cement or incorrectly applied cement binding the CPU to the motherboard and was causing overheating.
1. I don't work for OPTILED, I work for a multimedia company that built OPTILED's website.
2. If the site does not provide certain information such as lumens output for a particular product that is because OPTILED has not provided us with the information or does not want that information published online at this time.
3. Nobody ever said that OPTILED LED products were cheaper than CFL's. Nobody ever said anything about OPTILED at all except that they exist as a company, have a website and sell LED lighting. My original post was in response to a Slashdotter that was looking for LED Lamps.
4. Please calm down. What's with the "take a hike" comment?
No DRM system was ever developed for the CD, so all the music distributed on CDs can be easily uploaded to the Internet, then (illegally) downloaded and played on any computer or player.
It sounds like you didn't read Steve Jobs' original message. He explains why licensing DRM to other companies would not work due to the stringent contractual requirements that the music companies have placed on Apple in regards to maintaining the integrity of the DRM system. He also explains that only 3% of the music iPods are capable of storing are DRM'd/from the iTunes store, the other 97% is likely pirated or legally ripped from CDs or other sources. So most people are not locked in since most if not all of the music on their iPods is not DRM'd.
How do you explain that Toyota and Lexus rank highest in customer satisfaction, year after year, in JD Power and associates? I never claimed the Japanese were innovative, just kicking US automakers' buttocks.
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I recall frequent infections due to Microsoft Office Macro viruses back in the OS9 days, but since OSX, I've yet to see anything on any of the 60 or so macs I've owned or maintained at my job.
okay....I'm going to shut up now.
wrongo. I'm not sure what side of the debate you are on here,you may be on my side, but this is another common fallacy. Evolution is not a fact. Evolution is a scientific theory. Well vetted, mature scientific theories like evolution are more powerful than facts because they explain tens of thousands of observable facts and allow for predictions. Those predictions can be tested and those tests either reinforce or weaken the theory. Evolution as a theory is still discussed and tweaked when new studies are published, but the general tenets of the theory are no longer debated amongst scientists.
Okay, since you are the guy who did this, maybe you could buy a Blu-ray player now and kill that format as well. While I've got you here, maybe you could grab a copy of Windows Vista or did you buy that already?
I didn't call anyone dumb, just lazy. I didn't say that people could not understand the film without the narrative, quite the opposite, I stated that people *could* understand the film without the narrative, they were just lazy and didn't want to do the mental work and preferred having a narrator explain everything to them.
I can't believe how many people like the voiceover! Why not just have Morgan Freeman tell you in a folksy Southern lilt what's going to happen throughout the film? The voiceover IMO is only necessary because people are lazy and don't want to cogitate.
If it is Greedo's intention to kill Han and collect the bounty on him, why does he get him at gunpoint and talk to him for so long, why doesn't he just blow him away without any discussion? Does Han catch him "monologueing?"
Yes that's true but the scene is actually quite complex. At the outset Greedo's stated intention is to bring Han to Jabba not to kill him. He draws his gun not with the intention to kill Han, but as coercion. Han begins to remove his gun before Greedo mentions killing him. I guess you could argue that Han being brought to Jabba is the equivalent of death. Even when Greedo says "I've been looking forward to killing you for a long time.", in the context of their conversation, it seems to more mean, "I've been looking forward to seeing you killed [by Jabba]." And that of course is not a known outcome to Han or Greedo. If you consider the other crap scene that Lucas restored with Han walking over Jabba's tail, etc., Han doesn't seem to fear Jabba as eminent death. Anyway, I take your point, the scene is not so clear cut a case.
Yes agreed, Han is definitely an archetype derived from Western mythology and other places, Campbell's The Hero with a Thousand Faces , etc. which is a well documented influence on Lucas. I've seen many a Western with similar characters as you describe: Shane, The Searchers, Doc Holiday in Tombstone, etc...
I would offer this argument: Lucas is a student of various American and World film genres, in this case I spotlight the American Western. If you've watched lots of Westerns as I have, you come to see certain concepts of morality in the old west codified and mythologized. One of those concepts is justice by the gun, self-made justice because the law is not available to protect you. Whoever "draws" first in a Western matters a great deal. Most of the heroes in Westerns had to follow a code whereby they waited until the other fellow made a move, and then they drew quicker and shot straighter. People who drew first without warning, without making it clear they were challenging you were considered killers and were subject to posse justice or retribution. Many characters plead "he drew first" as a socially accepted alibi. The fact that Han deceitfully plans the removal of his gun from his holster, misdirects Greedo and fires first in cold blood IMO was a very specific coded message from Lucas: Han was very much an anti-hero, redeemed only when he came flying with a star at his back (classic combat tactic) and saved Luke's bacon. If you remove the meaning of that scene with Greedo, you eliminate the arc of the character, there is no character development which IMO reduces the beauty and significance of the artist's vision.
Well I do dislike Microsoft. I don't think it's a prejudice so much as a reasoned position based on the company's products and actions. But I think that is all getting off-topic. Back to the subject at hand: I doubt even Microsoft internally thinks the Zune is a success. Do you think they are popping open bottles of champagne in Redmond due to the "success" of the Zune? I don't think so. Maybe they don't see it as an outright failure, but I would speculate that they are pretty disappointed with it so far.
Sorry to tell you this but there are expectations associated with who you are. A massive corporation with $29 billion cash on hand and dominant control over most widely used computing platform in the world is expected to do better than just slowly gain meager amounts of market share. The expectations for David are different from those for Goliath.
The tenor and content of your post has been repeated in this discussion more than once. Do people really think that there is no qualitative different between Empire Strikes Back and Revenge of the Sith, let's say? The two are just different, one is not substantively better than the other? I can't agree with that at all. Empire Strikes Back is a great film as a stand alone work of art, it has excellent dialogue (many of the best lines I understand were ad libbed by the actors), the arc of the story is dramatic and dark, the pacing is excellent, there is tension, release, character development, characters that are put to dramatic and interesting moral tests, "go to your friends now and risk destroying everything you have worked for." There is nothing remotely like this in Eps 1,2, or 3 in my opinion.
I don't agree. I think there is such thing as well-crafted, scripted, performed, directed, scored cinema (Empire Strikes Back) versus CGI-infused dreck with poor writing and horrible acting. Samuel L. Jackson?!?!?!?!?!?! WTF? You can't just cast somebody because he is your buddy and wants to be in the movie. Good actor, wrong role. Empire is now 27 years old and time enough has passed such that it has been viewed and reviewed and retrospected, etc. and I think most critics agree that it is a classic. Episodes I,II and III will not be looked back on the same way because they are just not good films based on real characteristics (admittedly subjective).
Don't forget the Samurai pics of the 50's and 60's from Japan, by Kurosawa, etc. A jedi is basically just a samurai with katana version 2.0 and force push. The relationship between Episode 4 and "The Hidden Fortress" is well documented and discussed by Lucas.
It won't install normally, but you can hack it- http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&goto=lastpost&threadid=371302
Yeah, I only said "well-publicized", not acknowledged. Anyway, I've gotten Apple to repair problems that they did not issue press releases acknowledging. I quick trip to the Apple support discussion boards usually confirmed any suspicions that others were experiencing the same problem. Then it just required some patience getting through their tech support checklist before getting to the end where they run out of probing questions and just send you a return repair box.
There was a well publicized manufacturing fault with some MBP's where there was too much cement or too little cement or incorrectly applied cement binding the CPU to the motherboard and was causing overheating.
semi-retarded?
1. I don't work for OPTILED, I work for a multimedia company that built OPTILED's website. 2. If the site does not provide certain information such as lumens output for a particular product that is because OPTILED has not provided us with the information or does not want that information published online at this time. 3. Nobody ever said that OPTILED LED products were cheaper than CFL's. Nobody ever said anything about OPTILED at all except that they exist as a company, have a website and sell LED lighting. My original post was in response to a Slashdotter that was looking for LED Lamps. 4. Please calm down. What's with the "take a hike" comment?
www.optiledtech.com
disclosure: my company built their website
It sounds like you didn't read Steve Jobs' original message. He explains why licensing DRM to other companies would not work due to the stringent contractual requirements that the music companies have placed on Apple in regards to maintaining the integrity of the DRM system. He also explains that only 3% of the music iPods are capable of storing are DRM'd/from the iTunes store, the other 97% is likely pirated or legally ripped from CDs or other sources. So most people are not locked in since most if not all of the music on their iPods is not DRM'd.
hahaha...love it.
How do you explain that Toyota and Lexus rank highest in customer satisfaction, year after year, in JD Power and associates? I never claimed the Japanese were innovative, just kicking US automakers' buttocks.