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  1. Re:Hope it doesn't melt the car! on Ford Will Demo Solar-Charged Car At CES · · Score: 1

    That's great so long as you have grid power where you park your car. Believe it or not but there are still places on this Earth where an electrical outlet is more than ten feet away.

    Also, that solar panel would be just as productive on the car as on someone's roof. That is unless the car happens to have to drive through a lot of long tunnels. I suppose parking the car in a garage would destroy the gains of having a solar panel on the roof but then if someone buys a solar charging car and parks it in a garage all day just means that they aren't very smart.

  2. Re:Same as lost luggage... on US Customs Destroys Virtuoso's Flutes Because They Were "Agricultural Items" · · Score: 2

    The problem with that is that the TSA and airlines are not permitted to mark on the outside of luggage that it contains a firearm. The people that inspect the luggage do not know if a firearm is inside until they open it. So, keeping a firearm inside the luggage does protect you from one level of unsupervised inspection there is still the risk of another level of inspectors cutting open the case anyway.

    There is also an issue that a lot of airline and TSA personnel that don't know the rules. They will commit federal felonies by putting markings on luggage noting a firearm is inside, or opening the case when the owner is not present, or any of a number of violations of the law. That is because the law is so expansive that so few bother to learn it all.

    The only solution to this is to treat all bags as if they contain a firearm. There should be no locks that a TSA agent can open with a key. There should be no opening of luggage outside of the presence of the owner (barring emergency situations, such as it's on fire). The presence of a non-TSA lock is one indication that the case may contain a firearm. Since the law states that no marking should indicate the presence of a firearm the law itself is contradictory.

  3. Re:Shouldn't have to run oil by rail on Oil Train Explosion Triggers Evacuation In North Dakota · · Score: 1

    First problem with your argument is that you are talking about a nuclear power reactor of a very old design. The design was known to be flawed but still allowed to operate since Japan is in desperate need of cheap electricity. The reactors that were destroyed were scheduled to be decommissioned or shutdown for periodic maintenance. One was already shutdown as I recall, another was on it's last run before decommissioning. Very unfortunate since the time before getting shutdown is when fission products are the highest in the reactors.

    Second problem is that the mistreatment of the workers has nothing to do with the fact that it is a nuclear power plant. People get mistreated all the time. People are subject to life endangering work environments all the time. The fact that the danger is radiation is irrelevant, lots of things are dangerous.

    Third problem with your argument is that there is no comparison to other energy sources. How many people would have died in coal mines if they did not have the nuclear power? How many people would have had lung problems from breathing the ash and smoke? How many people were harmed from things like mercury and lead in the water and air from burning coal? Even wind and solar are not immune to this. Photovoltaic panel plants have been known to contaminate the water with heavy metals. People fall of roofs and towers installing and repairing windmills and solar panels.

    No other power source has a safety record like nuclear power. I guess an alternative to nuclear, coal, and wind power is no power at all. How many people would die from freezing, starvation, and disease if we didn't have heat and refrigeration from modern power sources?

  4. Re:Shouldn't have to run oil by rail on Oil Train Explosion Triggers Evacuation In North Dakota · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pipelines by their nature are run through low population areas, the land is cheaper and fewer people to complain about. Trains by their nature run through high population areas. Rail carries a variety of cargo, cargo that people need. If the rail does not stop at as many population centers as possible that rail does not make as much money. Pipeline on the other hand only needs to serve two customers, the supplier and the consumer, so the path can avoid the population.

    I've seen some spectacular failures of pipelines before, some notable ones were from poor site choices. One I recall is from a rocket fuel plant built on top of a large natural gas pipeline. That just had "fail" written all over it.

    The argument isn't if transporting oil is safe, it isn't. Nothing is "safe", even hiding under the bed from the evil world contains the risk of getting killed from a meteor strike. The argument is if the pipeline would have been safer than transport by rail. There is little evidence that the train is safer.

    If you want to argue about the safety of oil transport then I'll have that argument. I'd then demonstrate the statistical safety, low cost, and minimal carbon output of nuclear power.

  5. Re:gun owner logic on Hearing Shows How 'Military-Style' Raid On Calif. Power Station Spooks U.S. · · Score: 1

    less guns means less gun violence

    Lower gun ownership does lower gun violence. Remove the guns and you still have the violence. The guns don't cause the violence, criminals do. Remove the criminals and you'd lower the gun violence rate too, in fact you'd lower the total violence rate.

    Why the focus on "gun violence"? Shouldn't we be concerned about all violence?

    Criminals who can't pass backround checks are able to buy guns because the market is awash with guns.

    So, you are admitting that background checks don't keep criminals from getting guns? Thank you! This seems to be a more and more popular realization. Now, how about we stop spending so much time and money on background checks and use those resources to keep violent criminals away from polite society?

    As for "ruralness", I thought this would be common knowledge but the US is the most rural of all countries of similar standards of living.

    If you torture the data enough you can get it to admit anything. Why are you carving out a group of nations with a similar standard of living for comparison? You do that because if you didn't then gun control looks like a really bad idea.

    Could it be that gun control is why these countries have such a low standard of living? I mean if criminals have no fear of getting shot by homeowners then they will steal everything not nailed down, once they have enough stuff worth stealing in their house. People having their stuff stolen all the time would seem to lower their standard of living.

  6. Hand warmers?

  7. Re:That's impossible! on Hearing Shows How 'Military-Style' Raid On Calif. Power Station Spooks U.S. · · Score: 1

    Yes, it will be fixed. I just read an article on how Californians are buying all kinds of rifles before the registration requirement goes into effect. The government can't take the rifles until they know where they are.

    Registration leads to confiscation so often that it is difficult to deny. I would argue that registration IS confiscation. The government is telling people that they don't own their rifles anymore, instead they are property of the state and the state needs to know where its property is located. The government may be kind enough to allow people to possess the firearms they paid for currently but how long will that last?

    Sure, we have laws that require people to register cars but there are two big differences between car registration and gun registration. First, people can legally choose to not register a car if they do not intend to drive it on public roads, there is no such option with gun ownership. Second, I have yet to see any government use a car registry to confiscate cars from people that lawfully purchased them, history has many examples of such confiscations of rifles.

  8. Re:gun owner logic on Hearing Shows How 'Military-Style' Raid On Calif. Power Station Spooks U.S. · · Score: 1

    As for pointing out fun correlations, how about all the countries which enjoy a similar standard of living as the US and the fact that almost all of them have far stricter gun laws and lower rates of gun ownership and yet see gun violence rates far below ours?

    I see you fell into the gun grabbers trap. The key there is "gun violence", as if getting killed by a gun shot makes a person "deader". Of course we'd lower "gun violence" by lowering gun ownership. We'd also lower the rate of people getting run over by cars if we lowered the car ownership rate. That might also make more sense than gun bans because cars kill far more people than guns. Medical mistakes kill more people every year than guns but no one seems to be calling for a ban on physicians either.

    If you took Oakland, LA and maybe one or two other cities out of "The Republic of" California (what the hell does that mean?) all of a sudden the violent crime rate for the state starts to look a hell of a lot like the more rural states

    If that is the case then how am I to know that the lower violent crime rate isn't just because these nations are more rural? There's a lot of big cities in the USA, if the crime in Oakland is because of the high population density then that should also apply to other nations in the world.

    Maybe there are so many illegal guns out there because there are so many legal ones. They all start off as legal when they're made.

    Yep, they do. There is a solution to the illegal gun ownership problem, repeal the laws that make them illegal. These guns are "illegal" only because laws declare them so. How about instead of looking for guns and throwing them in the ocean we find all the criminals that are killing people and throw them in the ocean?

    An "illegal" gun is illegal many times is because people steal them. Taking guns from law abiding people to reduce "illegal guns" makes as much sense as taking cars away from their owners to reduce "illegal cars".

    I have an idea. Instead of taking guns away to keep people from shooting holes in electric transformers we ban transformers? That does not make sense of course, people will just make transformers to shoot then.

    Seriously though, gun control does not lower crime because the gun is not the problem, it's the criminal. Criminals will get guns. If they can't buy them they will steal them. If they can't steal them then they will create them. Gun control is irrelevant now. Even if gun control did control crime before people can now print out a gun from a 3D printer if they want one. That genie is out of the bottle. Gun control will never work again because any idiot can make a gun now.

  9. Re:gun owner logic on Hearing Shows How 'Military-Style' Raid On Calif. Power Station Spooks U.S. · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You don't get it. They told me that IF we ban these evil rifles THEN people won't be shooting at transformers. Well they passed their law and someone shot at the transformers, did some pretty expensive damage too it looks like. Now what are they going to do, ban them AGAIN?

    Now what they are going to do is use this as an example for advocating confiscating these rifles. How do I know? Because they always do that. These are the same people that tell me that they won't take my hunting rifle. They can't both confiscate the rifles that did this damage while also allowing me to keep my hunting rifle because they are the same rifle.

    Yes, we ban murder. It also does not keep people from murdering. A ban is nothing more than prescribing a punishment for an action. The laws says if you do something then we punish you for it. If you scream "fire" in a crowded theater, and there is no fire, then we punish you for it. A rifle ban is like punishing people for screaming "fire" in that theater even when there is a fire.

    Please, by all means, move to a country with fewer gun restrictions, and enjoy actually having to use them to protect yourself from all the people who have 'em, too.

    Which one would that be?

    I live in the USA where we don't have bans on rifles, unlike the Republic of California. We also don't have a lot of people shooting up power stations or getting murdered either. Might have something to do with the fact that people around here can shoot back. The state I live in has 1/4 the murder rate of California and twice the firearm owner rate. I don't know what the rifle ownership rate is for either state, those firearms in California must be shotguns because those are Biden approved.

    At least with murder we can get a pretty high agreement that it should be banned. With gun laws that agreement is not so high. We saw a lot of gun laws go away this past year. Saw our murder rate go down too. I know correlation does not mean causation but it's real hard to deny causation when the correlation keeps showing up.

  10. Re:That's impossible! on Hearing Shows How 'Military-Style' Raid On Calif. Power Station Spooks U.S. · · Score: 1

    I didn't mean scaling up the tower and sawing through the wires with a pocket knife by "taking them out". I was thinking of ramming them with a large dozer, or using explosives like you suggested. Some more suicidal methods that came to mind, cutting through the support structure with a torch, running into the wires with a small airplane, or short them out by launching wires over them. Another idea was just a redneck with a rifle and a lot of time, just shoot at insulators and wires from a safe distance until sparks flew or the police came.

    Getting explosives is not as difficult as you think. I saw this stuff on the shelf at a gun show called "Tannerite". I was curious about this stuff so when I got home I looked it up. This is serious stuff if in enough quantity. It's a binary explosive so it's safe to ship by mail, and numerous places will sell it. I saw Tannerite again later on the shelf at a sporting goods store I frequent. I haven't bought any so I don't know if there's ID needed to buy it. It was on the shelf where I could grab it, not behind the counter like the handgun ammunition. Tannerite is a low order explosive but I'm sure that there are ways to boost up the power if someone wanted to take the time to learn some chemistry.

  11. That's impossible! on Hearing Shows How 'Military-Style' Raid On Calif. Power Station Spooks U.S. · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The intruder(s) then fired more than 100 rounds from what two officials described as a high-powered rifle at several transformers in the facility.

    That's not possible. Someone must be lying. I know this because California banned all those evil high powered rifles.

    I once saw an offer to tour a nuclear power plant. I thought that would be fun, I never saw the inside of a nuclear power plant before. I imagined it would be much like the coal fired plants I toured, I doubted I'd get near anything even remotely radioactive, but I still thought it would be quite interesting and educational. I then read the fine print on the tour invite. To go on the tour I'd have to submit to a background check, I believe that included getting fingerprinted. I lost all interest.

    I didn't think I'd have any problems passing a background check, I've done them before for things like getting in the military and getting government work. I just didn't like the idea of having to take my time going through that again for something as mundane as a tour of a power plant.

    While on vacation one summer I happened across a sign for a hydroelectric power plant. I recall it was called Raccoon Lake but a quick Google search tells me that is in the middle of Indiana and I'm pretty sure the dam I was at was in Tennessee. Anyway, I had time so I took a detour to see if I could take a tour or something. I got there and found the visitors center. I had a look around, they had a video playing on continuous loop showing the history of the area and how the dam worked. The video ended with a message to ask for a tour. I then asked to get a tour. I was told tours were no longer offered "for security reasons".

    I recall seeing a Youtube video recently about nuclear power where some nuclear power plant operator hated the security policies that banned tours. He wanted to show people how safe these power plants are. I understand where he's coming from, if nuclear power is so safe and secure then why can't we see that for ourselves? I can just imagine what people are thinking, do they have something to hide that they can't let me in?

    While they have these security policies in place for the power plants the wires leaving them are totally insecure. I remember driving down the interstate and seeing these HUGE power lines going overhead. It was not long after getting denied a tour of the hydro plant "for security reasons" that I saw those power lines so the first thought through my head was just how easy it would be to take out that power line. The foundations for the towers that ran overhead were just out in the middle of someone's corn field. There was a fence around the field but it was just something to keep cattle from wandering in or out, not anything that any able bodied adult couldn't climb over or through.

    The people that secure the power in this country have some seriously skewed priorities. We can't have people tour a hydroelectric plant "for security reasons" but some one can cut the communications to a power plant, shoot up some transformers, and no one knows who did it.

  12. Re:I was speaking of insulation on Utilities Fight Back Against Solar Energy · · Score: 1

    BUT if you need less energy, then you need LESS to fill the gap too.

    Irrelevant. We'd still need energy. Conservation is a good idea that I wholly support. The problem is that one can only conserve so much before it starts to affect their standard of living. This comes through either increased expense in the form of energy efficient devices and materials, an expense that is not offset by the energy saved, or through an inconvenience.

    Or adapt you standard of living so they can survive even if you switch to more wind and solar. If at night all people start using lower-power LED instead of incandescent light-bulbs, the "gap" that the utilities need to compensate is smaller.

    No, that "gap" does not get smaller. The utilities have to produce power based on an consistent "base" usage and on the peaks. For residences the utilities charge consumers based on their average costs, industrial/commercial users may be offered discounts on certain times of day for power usage to address those peaks. The "gap" between the base and peak has to be made up with expensive peak power. The larger that gap gets the more expensive electricity becomes.

    When adding solar as a power source there's an added complexity, the utility doesn't just have to compensate for the power consumed by their customers but also by the power they produce. It makes the "gap" between base power and peak power a greater percentage of the total. Energy efficient lighting reduces the total power consumed but does little to affect that "gap".

    An interesting thing about CFL and LED lighting, they have power supplies in them that are very adaptive to the power they are supplied. They do this so that they can be used in a number of places with different power and still produce a consistent light output. The same power supply can be used for places wired for voltages from 110, 120, 208, 220, 250 and anywhere in between. Also they don't care on if it's 50 or 60 hertz. Old incandescent lights are somewhat similar in that respect, the voltage has to be within a tighter range, they can't vary from 240 volts to 110 volts but they will give pretty much the same light on 110 volts as they do on 130 volts.

    I go through that explanation of lighting to point out how badly utilities hate these new lights. It's not because they affect profits from reduced consumption by customers, they will always adjust their rates accordingly. One problem is that these new bulbs add reactance, a load that is either inductive or capacitive. Reactance messes with the generators and need to be compensated for to keep them running. Incandescent bulbs are almost purely resistive, utilities like resistive loads. Another problem is that they consume the same amount of power regardless of voltage. If there is a problem at the utility a common result is a voltage drop. With incandescent lights a voltage drop means reduced power consumed. With the fancy new bulbs a voltage drop means the same, or more, power is consumed. That is a problem with the utility, if power used does not reduce with voltage then a runaway condition can happen. Instead of the lights dimming a bit and coming back up the lights keep trying to stay on at the same brightness, the current consumed goes up and up until wires get hot and fuses start to trip.

    These incandescent light alternatives are adding on to an already complex system. Solar and wind make it more complex. The more complex the system the easier it is to break.

    Indeed that's easier for us (we already have this possibility) than for you in the great plains (you probably will need to slowly start things like compressed-air energy storage, etc. or other such technologies)

    Energy storage also adds to the complexity, and cost, of electricity. Solar and wind are already expensive, more expensive than even the cheapest peak power we have. No one uses this stuff because it is cheap. The only reason we use it all is b

  13. Re:Useful vs Legal? on US Federal Judge Rules NSA Data Collection Legal · · Score: 1

    If a law is capable of reaching the intended result then it can be argued to be lawful under a rational basis review. If a government act cannot be shown to reach the intended ends then it is automatically illegal.

    Assume I was mayor and I just signed a law that all houses need to be painted blue because zombies can't see blue and therefore will not see the house and attack the occupants. But for something to have a rational basis review the law must have a an effect on a constitutional right. Painting a building blue might be pretty mundane but someone might object under their right of free expression or of some religious objection to blue paint.

    I will see the usefulness of laws brought up quite often in Second Amendment cases. A law prohibiting armed people from entering places where alcohol is consumed was struck down after a woman watched her husband get fatality shot in a bar where they worked. The murderer was a known problem for them both. She had recently bought a pistol and obtained a concealed handgun license because of this stalker. The armed thug waited until they were both at work, and knowingly unarmed, before he attacked them.

    I'm trying to remember the names and places of this incident. I do recall another similar incident that happened to Suzanna Hupp. She was disarmed by law, at the time people could not bring weapons into certain businesses. She watched a crazy man drive his truck through the front of the restaurant, then got out and executed numerous people there that came to eat.

    I know I got off on a bit of a rant there but I just got done reading how weapons laws keep people from bringing wiffle ball bats and bowling pins on airplanes because those are "weapons" but knitting needles and scissors are not weapons. Oh, and of a girl asked to change her shirt before going to class because the picture of a rifle on the shirt violated the school's weapon policy. Stupid rules. Sharpened pencils and heavy books are a greater danger than wiffle ball bats and PICTURES of a rifle.

  14. Re:No, entirely bad on Utilities Fight Back Against Solar Energy · · Score: 1

    So because the subsidies are of a different type, they must not exist?

    I know they exist just that they are nearly as favorable as they are for solar. I know that if I had a few million dollars for a natural gas fired power plant that I could get some pretty sweet deals from the government, tax breaks, low interest loans, maybe even a cash grant. They'd do that because I'd bring jobs, tax income, and cheap energy.

    However, if I said I'd spend that same money on solar power then I'd get an even sweeter deal. But I wouldn't get the money because I brought jobs and tax revenue. I'd get money because those politicians want to look good to voters and their fellow politicians.

    Are you for real?

    Yes.

    Tell me, how much does military action in the middle east for access to cheap oil cost?

    I'm sure it costs plenty. That is why I advocate we build more nuclear power, allow for more domestic drilling of oil, and conserve the energy we do use. That conservation of energy means stop wasting energy on solar and wind. I think we could use more research in wind and solar because as it is right now nuclear and domestic natural gas are much better ways to generate electricity.

    What about the negative environmental externalities? 10,000 people a year die from respiratory complications due to air pollution. These and more are all implicit or explicit subsidies that fossil fuels enjoy, and you don't even think twice about them because you just grew up with this ridiculous status quo.

    I think about them every time I pay my utility bills or fuel up my truck. I don't like the status quo because that means burning coal and foreign oil when we could be using nuclear, natural gas, and domestic oil.

    You don't have to preach to me about the problems with the status quo. I don't agree with your arguments about "externalities" since I think that a lot of it is nonsense. I do agree that burning coal and foreign oil is a problem and we need to do something about it. I just think that wind and solar is the wrong path to take.

    I studied electrical engineering in college. I had to take classes on power, systems engineering, control theory, and I worked on the solar race car project. It was explained to me how fragile the electric power grid is and how solar power plays into that. Even with that education almost two decades ago it was only relatively recently, after regaining an interest in this and doing some reading in my spare time, that I made a realization on how bad solar power really is.

    Solar power is expensive, really expensive. It's only because of government subsidies that anyone even considers using solar where grid power is available. What piles on to the cost is the backup systems that need to be in place for when the sun does not shine. What angers me more is that these backup systems we have now are all fossil fuel based. They are also very expensive and inefficient. They are so inefficient that they negate any savings in fossil fuels from using the wind and solar in the first place. Unless or until we find backup systems that are not powered by fossil fuels then solar power, and wind, saves us nothing in fossil fuels burned. I believe that we need to stop with the wind and solar as it gives us nothing. We need nuclear. If the government would only allow new nuclear power capacity then we could both reduce the fossil fuels we burn and get the cheap and reliable power we are used to.

    Nuclear power.

  15. Re:I was speaking of insulation on Utilities Fight Back Against Solar Energy · · Score: 1

    If you upgrade the house to better thermal insulation, you're going to lose a lot less heat on "cold windless nights" and thus you will need less energy.

    Yep, I'd need LESS energy but I'd still need energy. If all I had was windmills and solar PV for electricity then no wind + no sun = no electricity. Something needs to fill in that gap. The cheapest peak power is still two or three times that of coal and nuclear base load power. Even if solar and wind power were free, which it isn't, then electricity rates would still be higher than what we have now. Insulating my house also costs money. We are not burning coal because we want to pollute the air. We do so because it is the best means we have to get the standard of living we have now. By switching to solar and wind you are asking me to lower my standard of living with some pretty difficult to define benefit to the environment.

    Medical devices don't work this way.

    Yes they do. I'd explain to you in detail how medical devices work but they bring up too many bad memories. Instead I suggest to look it up yourself.

  16. Re:There must be a very good reason... on Utilities Fight Back Against Solar Energy · · Score: 1

    How are those daily blackouts coming along in Germany?

    I'm sure Germany has reliable power. The problem is that Germans pay three times what Americans pay for electricity.

    The study on the impact of solar power that found potential grid instability came to that conclusion by starting with the question, if all new electricity generation was solar then what would happen? The answer was that at some point the peaking reserve generation would become inadequate, the generators on line at the time would become overwhelmed, and the power would go out. It seems to me that is precisely what Hawaii is concerned about right now. If too many Hawaiians add solar power too quickly then the utility will be unable to build enough peaking power plants to keep the lights on.

    Other studies I've seen point out the carbon output of solar PV. PV panels themselves don't add much to the carbon output but when added to peaking power from natural gas turbines (the cheapest and most common source of peak power) then the carbon output would be higher than if natural gas boilers were used. A combination steam turbine and steam can get something like 50% efficiency. A natural gas turbine can get around 25% efficiency. The more solar PV you have in the day then the more peaking power turbines you need for the evening peak. That means more carbon output.

    Hawaii does not have a lot of natural gas so they burn oil. That oil carbon output is greater than natural gas, but still lower than coal. This means that unlike Germany or continental USA where natural gas is relatively cheap and plentiful the more solar added to Hawaii has an even greater impact on carbon emitted to the atmosphere.

    Germany has kept the lights on with their wind and solar. The downside is the much higher prices for electricity and the greater carbon output.

  17. Re:The root problem - Crappy wiring and stupid use on Tesla Updates Model S Software As a Precaution Against Unsafe Charging · · Score: 1

    Portugal is different than the USA. You have more mountains and see which allow for more reliable wind and more prime places for hydro. Out here a typical windmill will run for 16% of the time. That means to get the same energy in a year as a gigawatt coal plant we'd have to put up 6 gigawatts of wind power, and still have to build a gigawatt peak power plant for when the wind does not blow.

    I've seen videos of experts in the field explain why we cannot rely on wind and solar beyond a certain point in the USA. Much of what allows wind and solar to be cheap is having enough reserve capacity in traditional peaking power (typically natural gas turbines, sometimes diesel generators run from cheap heating oil) or in hydro. I took a tour of a pumped hydro station in the Tennessee Valley but they didn't use it to back up wind and solar but for peaking power for the nuclear and coal power stations. They can do that because the geography allows them to. Can't do that everywhere.

    There's papers out there that study the Texas power grid. They ran simulations with increasing amounts of solar power. Somewhere around 10% of power from solar and the grid becomes unstable, just not enough reserve capacity available. When it comes to the cost of the power the math looks real bad. Power would get real cheap for the utilities, so cheap that at some points the price goes negative. A negative cost of power is normally nonsensical but it is a means to describe the problems a utility would have with excess solar capacity. Negative cost of power means, if I understand correctly, is that it would be profitable to pay someone to use their electricity. That may sound like a nice problem to have but when that cheap power goes away, such as the sun goes down, they will have to make up the difference with expensive peak power.

    The cost of solar power may be negative at certain parts of the day but that does not mean anything when you can't get it when you need it. Utilities run on the average cost of power, that is what they charge the users. With solar power the average cost always increases.

    That's another thing, how much does your electricity cost? Running on 40% wind is nice but if your power costs even the slightest bit more then it does not make economic sense. Talk about saving the environment all you like but people need to make a profit or they don't eat. Global warming and sea level rise is a century away, but people want to have supper before they go to bed.

  18. Re:There must be a very good reason... on Utilities Fight Back Against Solar Energy · · Score: 1

    (Yes, I know there's a short 'peak' when people get home from work and cook dinner and stuff.)

    Yes, and where does that power come from? It's from expensive natural gas peak power. If there was no solar on the grid giving that peak output at noon then the utility could run the cheap and efficient base load generation for much longer periods in the day. Having to accommodate solar means using more peaking power generation, meaning higher prices.

    Solar power even in the best conditions cannot be cheaper than coal, hydro, natural gas, or nuclear. It's only in Hawaii and other tropical locations much like it where it gets even close. Those panels cost money, as do maintaining them, and given the little power density they have it makes them expensive.

    That little peak of power consumption that utilities see as the sun goes down is precisely why utilities hate solar so much. Solar PV just plain costs them money. The more solar they have the more peaking power they have to use in that time period. It may last only an hour or two every day but peaking power is used so rarely because it can cost the utility three or four times what base load power costs. They have to pass that cost on to the consumer.

    The primary reason peaking power costs more is because of efficiency, it takes more fuel per kWh than base load power. More fuel burned means more CO2 output. Put this all together and what you have is that more solar power means more CO2 in the air. The only way around this, barring some leap in power generation technology, is nuclear power. If we get more nuclear we get low carbon output, cheap, and reliable power. With nuclear power we won't need solar power.

    I thought you solar power people didn't like CO2 output. Well, the problem is that modern technology and economics means that more solar means more CO2. That's just how it adds up. I used to like solar until I had someone show me the math. Solar PV does not reduce CO2, it increases it. The main reason is because of that short little peak after the sun goes down.

  19. Re:Windless night on Utilities Fight Back Against Solar Energy · · Score: 1

    Well, if they are windless, they aren't that cold. And if they are windless there's less convection to which you could lose heat to, so perhaps you would be better off buying better insulation on your house to begin with.

    Easy enough to say to a relatively young and healthy single adult male. What about someone with children? The baby is going to want warm milk. No power means no refrigeration. No power mean no microwave oven. What about the elderly? Sorry Grandpa, the power went out again. We can't run your oxygen generator for the next eight hours so you are just going to have to hold your breath.

    In the end, putting solar pannels on your house or building lowers you cost on the long term. The initial investment (pannel, connections, etc.) ends up paying off somewhere between 5 and 10 years laters.

    That may be true where you are but out here in the American Great Plains there may never be a pay off. I remember about ten years ago we had a really warm Christmas. Around here a "warm" Christmas is still hovering around freezing. We had this odd fog that hung for days. We didn't get much for sun and if the wind had blown it would have blown the fog away. For a utility to make money they need to provide power when people want it. At that time of year you'd have a lot of people wanting to light up Christmas lights, go shopping, cook meals, and since Christmas celebrations are just a few days out of a month people still had to go to work.

    On cold, windless, sunless, days like I describe a utility that had to rely on wind, solar, and peaking natural gas turbines would have gone out of business. Since we use nuclear, coal, and natural gas around here we have some of the most reliable and cheapest electricity available.

    Having to turn off the lights and sit in the dark for a while when the wind doesn't blow and the sun don't shine may sound like fun but that is no way to run a business, or a hospital, or a school.

  20. Re:There must be a very good reason... on Utilities Fight Back Against Solar Energy · · Score: 1

    Wanna pay me wholesale? Fine. Then cut out all those fees.

    I don't think so. Large scale power producers provide their own maintenance, accounting, and all kinds of other overhead that the utilities have to provide to small scale, residential, PV electric producers. A big cost to the utilities for small scale power producers like yourself would just be the book keeping. With large scale producers those costs could be spread over the GWh per year they produce that no one is going to argue over such costs, but with you that is a big deal. Granted, some of that costs of buying your power would be no different than if you bought power from them. For many people with rooftop PV they still buy large amounts of electricity over the year that the cost of bookkeeping is made up in the electricity they buy. Since you are a net electric provider then I'm pretty sure the utility is losing money on you.

    Solar power is very bad for the price of electricity. The peaks of solar output do not correlate well with the peaks of usage. The means the cheap base load power is a smaller percentage of the power produced. This means the difference has to be made up by expensive peaking power plants.

    I saw a couple interesting Youtube videos and read a few interesting articles on some people that did a study on solar power and the effect it has on the price of electricity. The conclusion these people came up with is that since we have no cheap and effective means to store PV power that PV power will only increase the cost. Solar power is expensive. Intermittent power sources, and power sinks, are expensive. The only means to manage these peaks and valleys, as of right now, is with inefficient natural gas turbines. These turbines produce a lot of CO2 per kWh. This means that the more PV power on the grid the more CO2 will be produced.

    The only people making money on PV solar right now are doing so only because the laws provide subsidies for it. There are some rare exceptions but without government subsidy nobody would buy solar power. It's an artificial market propped up by lobbies that divert my tax money into the pockets of friends of congresscritters.

    The only reason that PV solar has not destabilized the power grid so far is because there is less than 1% of the electricity produced from it right now. If that should reach somewhere around 10% we'd have the grid instability be a daily occurrence. By "instability" I mean blackouts.

    Here's a couple questions for you to ask yourself. If you think the utility is making money off of you right now then why would any utility have a problem with anyone adding PV to their lines? If PV is such a great idea then why wouldn't the utility put up their own PV panels? If they are making money off of your PV panels then why hasn't the utility approached your neighbors to rent their roof to put up PV panels?

    I learned something a long time ago. If you must ask why something is not done the answer is usually money. The utilities don't like PV because they can't make money off of it. If everyone did what you do now, have more PV power than they use, then the utility would have nothing but headaches trying to find users for the electricity when the sun shines and running gobs of natural gas turbines when it didn't.

    I used to be a big advocate of solar power. I even thought of putting PV panels on my own house. When I looked into the economies of how PV works I was just astounded. Don't get me wrong, solar PV does have a place. Where it does not belong is on a national grid.

    What we need is modern nuclear power. I've been doing a lot of research into molten salt reactors lately and I think that is where we need to go. I think that is where we will inevitably go.

  21. Re:No, entirely bad on Utilities Fight Back Against Solar Energy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Renewables are just getting the same subsidies fossil fuels continue to enjoy.

    Really? So, if I put a natural gas generator on my property the government will pay for 60% of the material and installation cost? As well as require the utility to buy electricity from me at a price above what it costs them to produce it themselves? I don't think so.

    Solar must be the most subsidized electricity source out there today. I won't claim to be an expert but I've talked to people around here that are in the wind and solar business. The level of subsidies on wind and solar is mind blowing. These people will basically get the state and federal government to pay for all the equipment but they still can't build up wind and solar power because they would not be able to make enough money to pay the rent on the land. Think about that, they get the sun and wind for free, and the solar panels and windmills paid for by my tax dollars, and they still can't make any money.

    At least with the subsidized fossil fuels I pay for with my tax dollars I know my heat pump will run on these cold and windless nights.

  22. Re:The root problem - Crappy wiring and stupid use on Tesla Updates Model S Software As a Precaution Against Unsafe Charging · · Score: 1

    I doubt that power distribution would have to be updated in a "serious" manner if electric cars become common. They will no doubt need updating, as they always do, since people's needs will change over time. Even if electric cars become popular the typical lifetime of a passenger car is something like ten years in the USA. I doubt electric cars becoming "popular" would mean every car is replaced by electric. Even if they were it'd be ten years for the change to happen.

    The other thought that came to mind on how little this is likely to affect the power distribution system is that modern house wiring is typically around 200 amps in the houses I've seen in this area. I'm no electrician but I've been asked to help with house repairs with people I know that rent out houses. I've changed enough light switches and outlets to have a look in quite a few breaker boxes and I'll see 200 amp main breakers, a 50 or 60 amp service for a stove, 30 amp for air conditioning (I imagine larger houses might have 40 amp breakers), 30 amp for a dryer, and maybe something relatively big for an out building or hot tub. An electric car might pull a lot of power, perhaps as much as 80 amps, but it will do so at a different time than the other big users like air conditioning, stoves, and dryers. At least it will do so at different times if the users and/or manufacturers are smart.

    If the electric cars have smart chargers that can draw power when the other big consumers of electricity aren't pulling power then the peak loads on the power grid will not change, which is where the system has to be designed. The average power used will go up but the peak should not.

    I'm no fan of electric cars, I think that they are toys for the ignorant rich that like to feel better about themselves. I do understand that the electric grid is certainly adequate to handle a large percentage of light vehicles switching over to electric. This is with the caveat that the cars will be smart enough to avoid peak electric use times, which appears to already be the case so that people don't need new electric service to their house as a condition to buying an electric car.

    I believe that calling these "electric" cars is something of a misnomer. The energy is not coming from the electricity, electricity is just the transmission medium. Gasoline is an energy source, it was just distilled out of the oil we pumped out of the ground. Electric cars are coal powered cars. You can keep your arguments about "carbon footprints" to yourself because I don't care. Until we start building nuclear power plants all these electric cars get their power from coal. If people want electric cars and no coal burning then we need nuclear.

    Solar and wind are cute but if they reach a certain point of power generation, something like 20% of our power or perhaps as low as 5%, they will destabilize the grid. By "destabilize" I mean blackouts. You don't have to take my word for it, look it up.

  23. Re:The big question is... on Earth's Orbit Reshapes Sea Floor · · Score: 1

    I can make a simplistic, and wrong, false dichotomy too. On one hand we have the watermelons, green environmentalists on the outside but red communists on the inside. They don't want to save the environment as much as make government bigger so they can tell us what kind of light bulbs and toilets we can buy. These are busybodies that like to tell other people what to do because they think they are the smartest people on Earth.

    On the other hand we have the actually smart people. We have people that just want to be left alone so that they can actually solve the world's problems without having to get buried in government red tape to do it. People that want to do research in things like new batteries, light bulbs, nuclear reactors, and solar panels but can't because they might disturb the natural habitat of some unheard of fish that most everyone thinks of as either a nuisance or bait.

    The truth is more complex than your dichotomy and mine but we both have an element of truth to them. There is not two sides to this debate as this is too complex of an issue to boil down to two sides.

    Of course 97% of climate scientists agree that human activity is causing global warming, that's practically the definition of a "climate scientist". If a "climate scientist" speaks up too loudly about how humans are NOT destroying the earth then they get shunned and can't call themselves "climate scientists" any more. I'm reminded of a "climate scientist" that thought wood farming was a great way to sequester carbon but he or she was effectively silenced after that, nobody would talk to him/her any more about the theory since we can't have people advocating we cut down trees. The fact that more trees would be planted than cut down was lost on people. Cutting down trees would be heresy.

    Yep, "climate science" sounds like a church to me. But then just about everyone can be framed to look like they are worshiping a false god if their argument is simplified to the point of being a lie.

  24. Re:Also that pricing is misleading on A Flood of Fawning Reviews For Apple's Latest · · Score: 1

    Then don't buy one if you don't like it. It's really that simple.

    I did the math when looking for a laptop. The Apple had Thunderbolt that I didn't need, the other brand (I forget which) had eSATA that I didn't need. Both had video capabilities I didn't need. I had to pick one though, both were a compromise.

    That is a problem, if money matters at least. You want to spend it on the useful things, and save it on the shit you don't need.

    Money always matters. My brother wanted heated seats in the new car, his wife didn't want to pay for the GPS and stereo that came with it. She won, and now her butt gets cold. There were other car manufacturers, many that offered heated seats without having to buy GPS and a fancy stereo. They also didn't have other things they wanted like all wheel drive, or fuel economy.

    If you think that Dell has a better deal then go buy from them. Also, I'm pretty sure that a Mac Pro can run Cadence tools. Cadence software may not run on Apple's OS but if it runs on Dell hardware then I'd wager it would run on Apple hardware too.

    I remember running Cadence on HP-UX in college. That lab was switched to Windows NT the next year. The next year Windows was replaced by Linux because Windows caused the engineering college so many problems. I'll admit my dislike for Windows runs deep. I'll also admit that Apple products are not for everyone. Everything is a compromise. Everyone has their own priorities. Money matters, but it's only one factor of many. You buy the cheap shit if you like, I'll spend money on shit I don't need and get an Apple.

  25. Re:PRAISE?!? on Mikhail Kalashnikov: Inventor of AK-47 Dies At 94 · · Score: 1

    Kalishnikov is not horrified at the use of his weapon to kill people. That is because he realizes that the deaths were not caused by his design, they were caused by the wielder. Firearms are used to kill people, most often to kill those that intend to murder. I'd rather more people be able to explain to the police why the gun in their hand is warm and the invader to their home is not than have police come to find no home invaders, just the death and destruction they left behind.

    As a military veteran and someone that worked in making weapons I have no problems with what I did. My job was not to die for my country but to make the other guy die for his, to paraphrase General Patton.

    I take full responsibility for what I was enabling. I took a small part in enabling the people that are willing to do great violence on your behalf so that you are able to speak freely on how evil you believe they are.