I'm referring to the way these files exist on the servers involved. For example, some MMORPGs (I'm sorry I cant name any, I never know what NDA is active)never move or copy any object, because they exist somewhat plurally inside a database. When activated (an inventory is taken, an object is "worn" or "traded") the object is "constructed" in-world on the fly from it's database constituents. In this case, giving an object to someone else isn't actually doing anything except replacing a UID (something equivalent, close enough) in a field.
In this sort of a case it occurs to me that simply replacing the original UID is trivial enough that it might not technically be considered "stealing"--though if pulled off, most definitely "hacking" if it happens that an object is moved into the inventory of another person without the original "owners" consent.
I suspect this is a very important ethical issue and shouldn't be dismissed quickly, but instead studied carefully, even if the answer at first seems obvious.
You know that's a really good point. Does anyone know if this kind of thing has been tested in a US court yet? I'd very much like to know how this sort of reference (killing rather than deleting, stealing rather than moving/copying, etc) would stand up under litigation, or whether it would be able to be used at all. (or whether it would actually be encouraged)
Actually if you do what I've always done and correct everyone when they say "processor speed" when they should be saying "processING speed".
If you look at Moore's Law in that sense, it still holds well enough to take note. There have been no real pauses or holes in it, what with the advent of thinner circuits and more cores, as well as brainier architecture all 'round. Thus, this is indeed a simple continuation and the humor in my original post is punctuated to profundity not by pragmatism, but by pure principle.
That happened to me with Slashdot many years ago. I noticed one day while I was sitting on my cube reading the comments for some post about network security...and I realized that the comments were generally completely factually incorrect, the theories being handed up were generally weak, and the article itself was pitted with subjectivity and blurred facts.
I thought Slashdot was changing then too, but it wasn't. It turns out that while I wasn't paying attention, I'd become more experienced in the ways of such things than the average Slashdot poster.
Wow, what an entirely pointless post, RedBear. Very long though, so bully for that.
Why do you want to upgrade from the white macbook to the aluminum macbook? You have a third choice---
DO NOT UPGRADE YOUR MACBOOK YET! It's breathtakingly simple, and really you're just a spoiled ass who wants what he wants when he wants it for the price he thinks is fair.
Welcome to earth, friend. If you used half the time you spent typing out that whole post on figuring out how you're going to get that extra 700 bucks for a proper upgrade (maybe you could think of a way to make some money with all the firewire devices that you can't live without), you'd have a brand new macbook pro by now.
Good luck with that.
(and that's what you get for your ad hominem in your very first sentence---your virtual pushed against the grindstone of rationality)
Hi jonaskoeller, I know that encryption isn't hard. I do it for a living, among other things. I was referring to the amount of effort the average manager/executive is willing to put into it, which is something that I also know from what I do for a living--and that amount is the following:
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So people can sing the praises of Truecrypt all they like, and talk about not giving a password as part of a command line (I actually wrap the above in a little ksh script that talks to a fast hasher about a password), but the fact is that managers and executives like to do manager and executive type things and nothing else. Effort is part of that nothing else.
I almost agree, but it may be more effective to play it like this (which is how I played it the one time it was relevant to my career, and it worked beautifully):
Organize a meeting between him, and you, and one more more of the big bosses. The meeting will be about the pros and cons of open source, and it will be very short.
Print out the names of every single open source program you can find that's been in development for more than a couple of years. Bring that list to the meeting. Then ask your opponent about his theory that anyone can mess with the source tree and make changes that he wouldnt like. Ask him to name some projects that that's happened with in order to lend some weight to his point.
Then drop your stack of paper on the conference table and tell them that you have there a list of all the projects that that's never happened with (because it really never does happen). Compare the size of your list (many!) to the list of your opponent (none!) and any management worth their salt will spank your opponent immediately and you'll get your way.
It really does work, but you kind of have to work in one of those places where intelligence and creativity aren't punished. (then again if you do work in a place where intelligence and creativity are punished, you should probably go work somewhere else in the first place)
That's right. And neither is the email address listed in my profile. When I told media temple to go fuck themselves I never thought about that domain again.
ssh was ported to AS/400 longer ago than I care to remember, and ssl along with it later when it became ubiquitous.
I've actually compiled OpenSSL on HPUX rather than use old, ratty, early version packages. It's really not so bad if you think in terms of old Solaris machines that you couldnt do too many useful things with until you "gnuified" them. As soon as you've gotten your gcc goodness and a bucket of appropriate libraries, openssl becomes trivial to build anywhere really. That was my point---I cant imagine a system that anyone still uses for anything--at least not one that approximates POSIX compliancy (and even many that dont), that would be impossible to build openssl on.
I think its cheaper for Apple to do what they generally do with them, and treat them like a four year old that won't stop screaming. You just ignore them until they learn that they're not going to get what they want by whining.
Do you not understand irony, Soup? I apologize of course if your first language is not English.
But don't you see that many of the loudest whiners really aren't saying too much except "I CAN'T AFFORD THE ONE I WANT THEREFORE APPLE SUCKS!"--laying all the blame on Apple of course, and absolutely none on themselves. These same people are also blatantly unwilling to compromise and just get a white macbook if they want firewire that badly. So really, they don't want firewire---
They want "satisfaction". And satisfaction for them appears to me to be exactly what each and every one of them wants, for exactly the price that they want to pay.
If you think this way as well, SoupIsGoodFood, I daresay your insult is much more apropos for you than for me.
What currently operational (and I mean operational, I dont mean just turned on and sitting in a corner gathering dust with a little yellow light peering from between paddle switches) legacy operating system can you in no way compile OpenSSL on?
Wow, I spank a guy for being a lazy fuckhead and not googling for his answer, but instead whining about it in a public forum---which USED to be one of the biggest taboos in all of the internet...
In fact, its a taboo that when I've brought it up before (though I haven't done it in a couple of years) usually generates 4s or 5s.
Is it really the case that the AOLers have finally gotten across the entire internet from usenet to slashdot after all these years? When was the invasion? I think I missed it completely.
Anyhow, sorry for the smackdown that I laid there. I'll be over here wrapping everything in padding and making sure everyone's hot water heaters cant go above 102F if you need me.
No one is really "raging". A few loudmouths (and it's always the same ones if you hang around those boards and wait long enough) are whining about not being able to plug cameras (that they don't own) into the new Macbook (which they also mostly don't own). This is bitching for bitching's sake, and I can show you. Look here:
The white macbook is still being sold in the Apple store, and will be for the foreseeable future, having just been made Apple's "cheap" notebook. And white macbooks still have firewire400. Which is exactly what these whiny people are screaming that they want.
It seems to me that a few very loud people quite badly aren't going to shut up until Jobs give each and every single one of them their own free, customized mac.
Look, if you're unwilling or unable to click your mouse and press a few buttons when there's a term you're unfamiliar with, then the problem is your laziness, not the content of the article.
Would you have had Faulkner or Hemingway or Joyce include little dictionaries with all the hard words in them along with every book they wrote?
Wait that wouldn't work, because they should just explain them in the prose where your eyes are at that moment. You can't be bothered with dictionaries.
So, the FBI has rounded up 56 people allegedly involved in credit card scamming...by...luring them with a url called "darkmarket.ws".
It's plain to see that its very important to the FBI to catch the smartest criminals, and that they'll spend any amount of money and take any amount of time to do it.
Slashdot Mirror
I'm referring to the way these files exist on the servers involved. For example, some MMORPGs (I'm sorry I cant name any, I never know what NDA is active)never move or copy any object, because they exist somewhat plurally inside a database. When activated (an inventory is taken, an object is "worn" or "traded") the object is "constructed" in-world on the fly from it's database constituents. In this case, giving an object to someone else isn't actually doing anything except replacing a UID (something equivalent, close enough) in a field.
In this sort of a case it occurs to me that simply replacing the original UID is trivial enough that it might not technically be considered "stealing"--though if pulled off, most definitely "hacking" if it happens that an object is moved into the inventory of another person without the original "owners" consent.
I suspect this is a very important ethical issue and shouldn't be dismissed quickly, but instead studied carefully, even if the answer at first seems obvious.
You know that's a really good point. Does anyone know if this kind of thing has been tested in a US court yet? I'd very much like to know how this sort of reference (killing rather than deleting, stealing rather than moving/copying, etc) would stand up under litigation, or whether it would be able to be used at all. (or whether it would actually be encouraged)
To invite every avatar of Japanese origin to kiss my virtual ass, because what happened there is just silly.
Actually if you do what I've always done and correct everyone when they say "processor speed" when they should be saying "processING speed".
If you look at Moore's Law in that sense, it still holds well enough to take note. There have been no real pauses or holes in it, what with the advent of thinner circuits and more cores, as well as brainier architecture all 'round. Thus, this is indeed a simple continuation and the humor in my original post is punctuated to profundity not by pragmatism, but by pure principle.
Extend it? I trust you mean CONFIRM IT YET AGAIN!
Thought so.
That happened to me with Slashdot many years ago. I noticed one day while I was sitting on my cube reading the comments for some post about network security...and I realized that the comments were generally completely factually incorrect, the theories being handed up were generally weak, and the article itself was pitted with subjectivity and blurred facts.
I thought Slashdot was changing then too, but it wasn't. It turns out that while I wasn't paying attention, I'd become more experienced in the ways of such things than the average Slashdot poster.
Or editor for that matter.
Wow, what an entirely pointless post, RedBear. Very long though, so bully for that.
Why do you want to upgrade from the white macbook to the aluminum macbook? You have a third choice---
DO NOT UPGRADE YOUR MACBOOK YET! It's breathtakingly simple, and really you're just a spoiled ass who wants what he wants when he wants it for the price he thinks is fair.
Welcome to earth, friend. If you used half the time you spent typing out that whole post on figuring out how you're going to get that extra 700 bucks for a proper upgrade (maybe you could think of a way to make some money with all the firewire devices that you can't live without), you'd have a brand new macbook pro by now.
Good luck with that.
(and that's what you get for your ad hominem in your very first sentence---your virtual pushed against the grindstone of rationality)
Hi jonaskoeller, I know that encryption isn't hard. I do it for a living, among other things. I was referring to the amount of effort the average manager/executive is willing to put into it, which is something that I also know from what I do for a living--and that amount is the following:
0
So people can sing the praises of Truecrypt all they like, and talk about not giving a password as part of a command line (I actually wrap the above in a little ksh script that talks to a fast hasher about a password), but the fact is that managers and executives like to do manager and executive type things and nothing else. Effort is part of that nothing else.
I almost agree, but it may be more effective to play it like this (which is how I played it the one time it was relevant to my career, and it worked beautifully):
Organize a meeting between him, and you, and one more more of the big bosses. The meeting will be about the pros and cons of open source, and it will be very short.
Print out the names of every single open source program you can find that's been in development for more than a couple of years. Bring that list to the meeting. Then ask your opponent about his theory that anyone can mess with the source tree and make changes that he wouldnt like. Ask him to name some projects that that's happened with in order to lend some weight to his point.
Then drop your stack of paper on the conference table and tell them that you have there a list of all the projects that that's never happened with (because it really never does happen). Compare the size of your list (many!) to the list of your opponent (none!) and any management worth their salt will spank your opponent immediately and you'll get your way.
It really does work, but you kind of have to work in one of those places where intelligence and creativity aren't punished. (then again if you do work in a place where intelligence and creativity are punished, you should probably go work somewhere else in the first place)
HTH
That's right. And neither is the email address listed in my profile. When I told media temple to go fuck themselves I never thought about that domain again.
OH MY GOD WHAT WILL YOU DO NOW
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ssh was ported to AS/400 longer ago than I care to remember, and ssl along with it later when it became ubiquitous.
I've actually compiled OpenSSL on HPUX rather than use old, ratty, early version packages. It's really not so bad if you think in terms of old Solaris machines that you couldnt do too many useful things with until you "gnuified" them. As soon as you've gotten your gcc goodness and a bucket of appropriate libraries, openssl becomes trivial to build anywhere really. That was my point---I cant imagine a system that anyone still uses for anything--at least not one that approximates POSIX compliancy (and even many that dont), that would be impossible to build openssl on.
Spamzenpus!
This is not a landmark site anymore, and it hasn't been in quite some time. Good to see the hype still works though.
I think its cheaper for Apple to do what they generally do with them, and treat them like a four year old that won't stop screaming. You just ignore them until they learn that they're not going to get what they want by whining.
Do you not understand irony, Soup? I apologize of course if your first language is not English.
But don't you see that many of the loudest whiners really aren't saying too much except "I CAN'T AFFORD THE ONE I WANT THEREFORE APPLE SUCKS!"--laying all the blame on Apple of course, and absolutely none on themselves. These same people are also blatantly unwilling to compromise and just get a white macbook if they want firewire that badly. So really, they don't want firewire---
They want "satisfaction". And satisfaction for them appears to me to be exactly what each and every one of them wants, for exactly the price that they want to pay.
If you think this way as well, SoupIsGoodFood, I daresay your insult is much more apropos for you than for me.
What currently operational (and I mean operational, I dont mean just turned on and sitting in a corner gathering dust with a little yellow light peering from between paddle switches) legacy operating system can you in no way compile OpenSSL on?
openssl des3 -d -salt -in file.des3 -out file.txt -k horsefeathers
That's why. That's why your mother doesn't use it, and it's also why CEOs don't do it. It's too cryptic, if you'll pardon the expression.
Wow, I spank a guy for being a lazy fuckhead and not googling for his answer, but instead whining about it in a public forum---which USED to be one of the biggest taboos in all of the internet...
In fact, its a taboo that when I've brought it up before (though I haven't done it in a couple of years) usually generates 4s or 5s.
Is it really the case that the AOLers have finally gotten across the entire internet from usenet to slashdot after all these years? When was the invasion? I think I missed it completely.
Anyhow, sorry for the smackdown that I laid there. I'll be over here wrapping everything in padding and making sure everyone's hot water heaters cant go above 102F if you need me.
No one is really "raging". A few loudmouths (and it's always the same ones if you hang around those boards and wait long enough) are whining about not being able to plug cameras (that they don't own) into the new Macbook (which they also mostly don't own). This is bitching for bitching's sake, and I can show you. Look here:
The white macbook is still being sold in the Apple store, and will be for the foreseeable future, having just been made Apple's "cheap" notebook. And white macbooks still have firewire400. Which is exactly what these whiny people are screaming that they want.
It seems to me that a few very loud people quite badly aren't going to shut up until Jobs give each and every single one of them their own free, customized mac.
Look, if you're unwilling or unable to click your mouse and press a few buttons when there's a term you're unfamiliar with, then the problem is your laziness, not the content of the article.
Would you have had Faulkner or Hemingway or Joyce include little dictionaries with all the hard words in them along with every book they wrote?
Wait that wouldn't work, because they should just explain them in the prose where your eyes are at that moment. You can't be bothered with dictionaries.
Its also trivial to side-step with white-bytes...essentially the concatenation of a couple of bytes of empty data to screw the hash.
Such a huge amount of money to waste on a thing that is nothing but (and can never be anything but) a very minor nuisance to break.
So, the FBI has rounded up 56 people allegedly involved in credit card scamming...by...luring them with a url called "darkmarket.ws".
It's plain to see that its very important to the FBI to catch the smartest criminals, and that they'll spend any amount of money and take any amount of time to do it.
Thanks, FBI.
You needed to use three more characters in your google search, specifically these: "E17"
"E17 can now run in just 32MB of RAM, on an ARM9 processor clocked at 317MHz."
The last time I tortured myself with Enlightenment, that's almost exactly the kind of machine I ran it on, about ten years ago.
I wonder why Rasterman didn't just grab some old Enlightenment code from his geriatric tree and nearly do a straight port.....oh.