I know I'm in the slashdot minority here, but I think I'm still in the majority of the population that actually prefers to watch TV from the couch on a TV with a remote.
Except for the fact that each wireless card has a MAC address. Each Mac Address is traceable to a specific manufacturer, who can then determine the lot number your card from. Once they determine the lot number, they can determine who they sold that lot to... continuing on, they contact the laptop manufacturer... record of purchase... your ass in a sling.
Enjoy your public wifi network and your perfectly safe illegal actions. Don't forget to write from prison.
In a case such as this I would this that there should be some clause within Emainent Domain that would allow the government to null and void the patent. If ever there was a good case of something being used for the greater good, this is it.
Funny how the parent of this one gets a +5 for bashing Windows... yet the child post making the obvious point of how utterly impossible it is to list all the Linux developers doesn't get modded for shit.
I'd be willing to bet you could (with Microsoft's H.R. Depts help) list every developer of Windows if given enough time. But tracking every Linux hacker who contributed line(s) of code to the core OS of choice? Good luck with that. SCO and IBM can't stop bickering over who owns what code (and neither would be willing to help at the risk of their legal cases).
So let's see... Linux = SCO, IBM, Berkley + every other major univ & college, Every major computer MFG., Linus, Tom, Dick & Harry. Windows = Microsoft (HR Start digging)
Yea. Good job slashdot for modding the bullshit Windows bashing./flameon
We made a quick call to Nokia support and it can and will run the Unix Citrix ICA client --- Welcome to the wonderful world of cheap and useful for the office!
*nix and other OS users. You can't be bigger than google if your search engine only allows for people to use IE.
I guess my biggest bitch with Microsoft is that they seem to forget that they are a software company. They need to produce software for every platform, not just theirs. They didn't start making software for their own OS, so why not continue to make software for all the platforms? They have *nix developers, they have OSx develeopers and they could stand to profit a lot more if they designed all of thier software for all of the platforms out there.
With that said, I hope Google kicks their asses right out of the stadium in the search department. I'll be pissed when I have to go through the "Genuine Advantage" testing just to search for something on the web...
Exactly. This is how laptops were meant to be used, atleast in my opinion. Granted for a lot of people the 12" display is too small for them, but I personally won't use anything bigger because there's no need. I have a 19" flat panel at home, a 17" at work, and the laptop is used stricly for school, or surfing the net from my couch. - Full time work + college sucks by the way.
Here's how you solve this 20" laptop screen for the kids going off to college and without ruining laptops for the rest of us. Buy the little brat a 12" XXXX (fill in with your favorite vendor) laptop, a 60-80GB hdd, CD-RW/DVD, wireless and a second battery (the basics). Then you buy the kid a 17 inch or bigger flat panel, as well as a keyboard, mouse and power strip. This still allows the kid to carry the laptop to class (which is where it should be used) to take notes and things like that without getting laughed at - obviously compensating jokes will abound w/ a 20"er - and then they can still go back to the dorm room and plug the laptop in to watch movies, write reports and play games.
I say Americans need to stand up and call stupid when we see it. Forget Politically Correct - It's a fucking laptop, not a Yukon Denali. All hail the Fujitsu P-Series. Ok, well atleast I'll continue to hail the P-Series, you folks keep compensating while I carry my laptop with me on the plane.
I'd be interested to see how you came up with Accenture being to blame for this one? As usual EDS seems to be the one dropping the ball. From the Article -
Long-established outsource partner EDS has recently had its contract for infrastructure support for mainframe, mid-range platforms and hosting applications, and for application production support and helpdesk services extended to June 30, 2007 bringing its total contract to $542m.
Anyway, Accenture can screw up plenty of things without you adding more on, and I'd prefer to keep that line on my resume halfway respectable. (/sarcasm)
For the same reason people feel the need to force their preferences in religion... they need to have that comfort level in believing they are not the only ones and that thier beliefs are in tune with the beliefs of others.
The problem is this is slashdot, and you can't mention windows and linux in the same article without starting a thread like this. We all know it is pointless, and agree completely with what you said. But as long as people write articles about comparing the two, slashdotters will continue to discuss/flame/disagree about which is better.
I say flame the writers who keep bringing up the issue.
Ah screw it. Let's all switch to MAC's. Unix core, Windows useability (arguement over)... Microsoft can continue to sell us the mice.
Fact is that this article was obviously meant to be somewhat comical, some things within Linux definitely limit its adoption by mainstream computer users. BTW - I'm a Windows Admin @ work, and a Debian fan/user @ home, So please don't bash me for having an opinion of why the average everyday wal-mart/kmart/sears shopper doesn't rush right out and buy Suse/RedHat/Xandros/Madriva, when Windows works "out of the box", not to mention they've already paid for windows, why pay for another OS.
First off, let's talk about those wonderful programs that Linux has (thankfully).
Windows uses Media Player. No plugins (generally required) for DVD's or most-not-all media. Linux uses Xmms, Kaffeine, or a myriad of others, all of which require plugins for some thing as simple as playing a DVD. Yea. I want to go through plugin hell just to play Blackhawk Down. No thanks. Insert Disc, press play works just fine for me.
More to the point of this though is that many of the programs that are available for Linux either are named in such a way that you would never guess what it does (D&D characters is not a naming convention for computer apps), or they are so poorly marketed that you can't tell what they are for. People respond to nice shiny websites ( http://ww2.nero.com/ that show precisely what the product does, complete with screenshots, and descriptions. SourceForge is a godsend, but let's be honest, that website wasn't designed to showcase your product. If I can't google it, and get a quality webpage showing your software and what it does, I generally won't bother trying to figure it out. I don't have the time to fiddle with crap. I need to see it, determine if it meets my needs and either download it or move on. If the download points me to sourceforge, thats cool, but your mainpage shouldn't be sourceforge.
Linux does not suffer from a lack of applications. If anything it suffers from too many applications that all do the same thing only someone wanted a purple button instead of a grey one and wrote a whole new interface/application to get it.
Application installation. Sure. Let me tar -xjvf that, then switch directories, and./install.pl then answer questions about my kernel-headers, and where my C compiler is installed, then make sure I have... yea. Try installing VMWare from the tgz. My wife can figure that out. With me sitting there "maybe". * Thank you whomever came up with apt. I love you guys.
Moving on. Setup. Yes Xandros is a breeze to install. It also costs money of you want to do anything with Active Directory. Many distro's are free but at what cost? Let's see, I have to recompile the kernel (yea, my wife will do that), if I want to suspend my laptop. I have to download kernel-headers (yea my wife knows what those are) to install mad-wifi to get my wireless to work. Let's not mention all the hoops you have to go through to get the configuration working properly. Oh and don't forget you need to modprobe some items before and after you suspend or else the machine simply won't resume properly. Along with all this though... try installing VMWare on Xandros (OC 3.02). It's almost funny. (BTW - Xandros People. Nice job guys. Seriously, keep up the good work.)
All in All, everyone should be capable of using Linux. Its all very simple. Assuming you know that/etc is not the same as/var which definitely does not hold the same stuff as/usr. Oh and don't forget that not all applications will be in/usr/bin, but some are in/root and others are in/usr/sbin. Let's not forget that you need to put the plugins in the programs/usr/bin/xxxx/plugins directory... or wait is that in/home/bill/xxxx/plugins? Do you want/fries/french or/fries/curly or maybe you want/home/fries/plugins/var/french../go/get/a/consortium/and/standardize/then/you/wil l/have/more/users.sh -install -directory/usr/bin/thanks/for/listening.
our commerce structure. This waiting to release products based on specific competitive information, or to see if a similar product bombs out so you can make yours just that little bit better and maybe take some more sales from someone else is crap. Sony - the people obviously want your product with a large library at release or not! The 200,000 sales you might gain over the course of waiting 6-8 months is realistically the 200,000 units you didn't sell during those months because the procuct wasn't on the market.
If you have the PS3, and it is ready to go to market at Christmas, sell the dammed thing at Christmas in direct competition with the xBox. The people will buy the one they initially think they want, and if it sucks they'll buy the other one soon enough. Who cares if a console launches with 250 games, as long as it launches with Madden 2006, NHL 2006, some golf style game, (*name of current kid movie craze here*) game, and a "Halo" ripoff, the console will sell like hotcakes. * Begin Rant* Quit screwing the public out of a product they desire just so you can screw with your sales numbers a small fraction of a percent. This applies to all companies, not just Sony. */rant*
PS. If sony really pulls some crap like this, I won't buy one.
- The server select screen sucks. Refresh is slow. You can't add favorites. I agree with you on the favorites, but they do keep track of servers you have played on in one of the config files. Copy and paste the IP into the browser. Realistically the browser sucks, but why is this a big complaint for everyone?? It's a game... why are so many people sitting they anal-izing the browser?
- No CTF or anything other than conquest mode. Um, granted its conquest by name, but isn't the point of the game to capture as many of the flags as you can to cause the other team to lose tickets?
- By default, rounds are set up to end too quickly. Best 2 out of 3 averaging 15 minutes per round = 45 minutes per map. Sorry, but after 45 minutes of the same map I bored out of my mind. Change is good, especially with your underwear next time you see me dropping arty on you!
With OSX and Win32, you must go out on the Internet and find the packages that you want to install, download them, download any other packages to satisfy dependencies, and then use the 'easy' install procedures (in the correct dependency-driven order). Apt-get wins hands-down.
I'm sorry, but when have you ever had to go out to the internet to download "packages" for Windows to satisfy "Dependancies"?? Dependancies are not a Windows issue. The only instance I recall ever seeing something like this is when you need WinpCap, and thats because they aren't allowed to include it in the installer, but a link is always included, as opposed to some cryptic message about libnasl.0.1.22bblahblahblah required for package Xfg86.14.56.
That said I completely agree that in 99% of the cases apt-get kicks ass over any other installer.
But again the biggest issues realistically for most any user, myself included, is that I just want stuff to work. When I go home at night having sat in front of servers all day, the last thing I want to do is sit there trying to get my laptop to suspend when I close the lid. ACPI or APM? Explain that to my wife. If Linux could remove the barriers of simple things like suspend, screen resolution, etc. Windows would not exist in my world. But alas, When I go home I want to check my email maybe check out a couple things online and close the lid. Screw knowing how the magic happens, just make it happen. I'll save my brain power and desire for when the fit hits the shan in my NCC.
Windows Works. When I close the lid it takes a nap, and when I open the lid it wakes up. I didn't have to and create a script in/etc/apci/events to listen for the lid event, and then go back into/etc/acpi and create another scipt that does echo 3 > blah blah. Yea, my wife is capable of that. Sure. She's capable of bitching at me that I made her use this crap. (I say this from experience... she really wasn't thrilled). The average desktop user wants simplicity. Most computer users (which any sys admin will agree with) could give 2 shits how it works... they just want it to work, and if it doesn't then its useless. That's the whole point of articles like this. Linux is ready for people who like to tinker with stuff. Linux is not ready for your average AOL user who has been preprogramed to having everything work right out of the box.
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I know I'm in the slashdot minority here, but I think I'm still in the majority of the population that actually prefers to watch TV from the couch on a TV with a remote.
Amen.
Except for the fact that each wireless card has a MAC address. Each Mac Address is traceable to a specific manufacturer, who can then determine the lot number your card from. Once they determine the lot number, they can determine who they sold that lot to ... continuing on, they contact the laptop manufacturer ... record of purchase ... your ass in a sling.
Enjoy your public wifi network and your perfectly safe illegal actions. Don't forget to write from prison.
In a case such as this I would this that there should be some clause within Emainent Domain that would allow the government to null and void the patent. If ever there was a good case of something being used for the greater good, this is it.
Funny how the parent of this one gets a +5 for bashing Windows... yet the child post making the obvious point of how utterly impossible it is to list all the Linux developers doesn't get modded for shit.
/flameon
I'd be willing to bet you could (with Microsoft's H.R. Depts help) list every developer of Windows if given enough time. But tracking every Linux hacker who contributed line(s) of code to the core OS of choice? Good luck with that. SCO and IBM can't stop bickering over who owns what code (and neither would be willing to help at the risk of their legal cases).
So let's see...
Linux = SCO, IBM, Berkley + every other major univ & college, Every major computer MFG., Linus, Tom, Dick & Harry.
Windows = Microsoft (HR Start digging)
Yea. Good job slashdot for modding the bullshit Windows bashing.
We made a quick call to Nokia support and it can and will run the Unix Citrix ICA client --- Welcome to the wonderful world of cheap and useful for the office!
Actually the better question for me is ... can it run an ICA client?
*nix and other OS users. You can't be bigger than google if your search engine only allows for people to use IE.
I guess my biggest bitch with Microsoft is that they seem to forget that they are a software company. They need to produce software for every platform, not just theirs. They didn't start making software for their own OS, so why not continue to make software for all the platforms? They have *nix developers, they have OSx develeopers and they could stand to profit a lot more if they designed all of thier software for all of the platforms out there.
With that said, I hope Google kicks their asses right out of the stadium in the search department. I'll be pissed when I have to go through the "Genuine Advantage" testing just to search for something on the web...
Exactly. This is how laptops were meant to be used, atleast in my opinion. Granted for a lot of people the 12" display is too small for them, but I personally won't use anything bigger because there's no need. I have a 19" flat panel at home, a 17" at work, and the laptop is used stricly for school, or surfing the net from my couch. - Full time work + college sucks by the way.
Here's how you solve this 20" laptop screen for the kids going off to college and without ruining laptops for the rest of us. Buy the little brat a 12" XXXX (fill in with your favorite vendor) laptop, a 60-80GB hdd, CD-RW/DVD, wireless and a second battery (the basics). Then you buy the kid a 17 inch or bigger flat panel, as well as a keyboard, mouse and power strip. This still allows the kid to carry the laptop to class (which is where it should be used) to take notes and things like that without getting laughed at - obviously compensating jokes will abound w/ a 20"er - and then they can still go back to the dorm room and plug the laptop in to watch movies, write reports and play games.
I say Americans need to stand up and call stupid when we see it. Forget Politically Correct - It's a fucking laptop, not a Yukon Denali. All hail the Fujitsu P-Series. Ok, well atleast I'll continue to hail the P-Series, you folks keep compensating while I carry my laptop with me on the plane.
Anyway, Accenture can screw up plenty of things without you adding more on, and I'd prefer to keep that line on my resume halfway respectable. (/sarcasm)
How bout -- That first image you posted makes a great wallpaper!!
Thanks!
For the same reason people feel the need to force their preferences in religion... they need to have that comfort level in believing they are not the only ones and that thier beliefs are in tune with the beliefs of others.
The problem is this is slashdot, and you can't mention windows and linux in the same article without starting a thread like this. We all know it is pointless, and agree completely with what you said. But as long as people write articles about comparing the two, slashdotters will continue to discuss/flame/disagree about which is better. I say flame the writers who keep bringing up the issue. Ah screw it. Let's all switch to MAC's. Unix core, Windows useability (arguement over)... Microsoft can continue to sell us the mice.
Fact is that this article was obviously meant to be somewhat comical, some things within Linux definitely limit its adoption by mainstream computer users. BTW - I'm a Windows Admin @ work, and a Debian fan/user @ home, So please don't bash me for having an opinion of why the average everyday wal-mart/kmart/sears shopper doesn't rush right out and buy Suse/RedHat/Xandros/Madriva, when Windows works "out of the box", not to mention they've already paid for windows, why pay for another OS.
./install.pl then answer questions about my kernel-headers, and where my C compiler is installed, then make sure I have ... yea. Try installing VMWare from the tgz. My wife can figure that out. With me sitting there "maybe". * Thank you whomever came up with apt. I love you guys.
/etc is not the same as /var which definitely does not hold the same stuff as /usr. Oh and don't forget that not all applications will be in /usr/bin, but some are in /root and others are in /usr/sbin. Let's not forget that you need to put the plugins in the programs /usr/bin/xxxx/plugins directory... or wait is that in /home/bill/xxxx/plugins? Do you want /fries/french or /fries/curly or maybe you want /home/fries/plugins/var/french. ./go/get/a/consortium/and/standardize/then/you/wil l/have/more/users.sh -install -directory /usr/bin/thanks/for/listening.
First off, let's talk about those wonderful programs that Linux has (thankfully).
Windows uses Media Player. No plugins (generally required) for DVD's or most-not-all media. Linux uses Xmms, Kaffeine, or a myriad of others, all of which require plugins for some thing as simple as playing a DVD. Yea. I want to go through plugin hell just to play Blackhawk Down. No thanks. Insert Disc, press play works just fine for me.
More to the point of this though is that many of the programs that are available for Linux either are named in such a way that you would never guess what it does (D&D characters is not a naming convention for computer apps), or they are so poorly marketed that you can't tell what they are for. People respond to nice shiny websites ( http://ww2.nero.com/ that show precisely what the product does, complete with screenshots, and descriptions. SourceForge is a godsend, but let's be honest, that website wasn't designed to showcase your product. If I can't google it, and get a quality webpage showing your software and what it does, I generally won't bother trying to figure it out. I don't have the time to fiddle with crap. I need to see it, determine if it meets my needs and either download it or move on. If the download points me to sourceforge, thats cool, but your mainpage shouldn't be sourceforge.
Linux does not suffer from a lack of applications. If anything it suffers from too many applications that all do the same thing only someone wanted a purple button instead of a grey one and wrote a whole new interface/application to get it.
Application installation. Sure. Let me tar -xjvf that, then switch directories, and
Moving on. Setup. Yes Xandros is a breeze to install. It also costs money of you want to do anything with Active Directory. Many distro's are free but at what cost? Let's see, I have to recompile the kernel (yea, my wife will do that), if I want to suspend my laptop. I have to download kernel-headers (yea my wife knows what those are) to install mad-wifi to get my wireless to work. Let's not mention all the hoops you have to go through to get the configuration working properly. Oh and don't forget you need to modprobe some items before and after you suspend or else the machine simply won't resume properly. Along with all this though... try installing VMWare on Xandros (OC 3.02). It's almost funny. (BTW - Xandros People. Nice job guys. Seriously, keep up the good work.)
All in All, everyone should be capable of using Linux. Its all very simple. Assuming you know that
our commerce structure. This waiting to release products based on specific competitive information, or to see if a similar product bombs out so you can make yours just that little bit better and maybe take some more sales from someone else is crap. Sony - the people obviously want your product with a large library at release or not! The 200,000 sales you might gain over the course of waiting 6-8 months is realistically the 200,000 units you didn't sell during those months because the procuct wasn't on the market.
If you have the PS3, and it is ready to go to market at Christmas, sell the dammed thing at Christmas in direct competition with the xBox. The people will buy the one they initially think they want, and if it sucks they'll buy the other one soon enough. Who cares if a console launches with 250 games, as long as it launches with Madden 2006, NHL 2006, some golf style game, (*name of current kid movie craze here*) game, and a "Halo" ripoff, the console will sell like hotcakes.
* Begin Rant*
Quit screwing the public out of a product they desire just so you can screw with your sales numbers a small fraction of a percent. This applies to all companies, not just Sony. */rant*
PS. If sony really pulls some crap like this, I won't buy one.
- The server select screen sucks. Refresh is slow. You can't add favorites. I agree with you on the favorites, but they do keep track of servers you have played on in one of the config files. Copy and paste the IP into the browser. Realistically the browser sucks, but why is this a big complaint for everyone?? It's a game... why are so many people sitting they anal-izing the browser?
- No CTF or anything other than conquest mode. Um, granted its conquest by name, but isn't the point of the game to capture as many of the flags as you can to cause the other team to lose tickets?
- By default, rounds are set up to end too quickly. Best 2 out of 3 averaging 15 minutes per round = 45 minutes per map. Sorry, but after 45 minutes of the same map I bored out of my mind. Change is good, especially with your underwear next time you see me dropping arty on you!
With OSX and Win32, you must go out on the Internet and find the packages that you want to install, download them, download any other packages to satisfy dependencies, and then use the 'easy' install procedures (in the correct dependency-driven order). Apt-get wins hands-down.
/etc/apci/events to listen for the lid event, and then go back into /etc/acpi and create another scipt that does echo 3 > blah blah. Yea, my wife is capable of that. Sure. She's capable of bitching at me that I made her use this crap. (I say this from experience... she really wasn't thrilled). The average desktop user wants simplicity. Most computer users (which any sys admin will agree with) could give 2 shits how it works... they just want it to work, and if it doesn't then its useless. That's the whole point of articles like this.
I'm sorry, but when have you ever had to go out to the internet to download "packages" for Windows to satisfy "Dependancies"?? Dependancies are not a Windows issue. The only instance I recall ever seeing something like this is when you need WinpCap, and thats because they aren't allowed to include it in the installer, but a link is always included, as opposed to some cryptic message about libnasl.0.1.22bblahblahblah required for package Xfg86.14.56.
That said I completely agree that in 99% of the cases apt-get kicks ass over any other installer.
But again the biggest issues realistically for most any user, myself included, is that I just want stuff to work. When I go home at night having sat in front of servers all day, the last thing I want to do is sit there trying to get my laptop to suspend when I close the lid. ACPI or APM? Explain that to my wife. If Linux could remove the barriers of simple things like suspend, screen resolution, etc. Windows would not exist in my world. But alas, When I go home I want to check my email maybe check out a couple things online and close the lid. Screw knowing how the magic happens, just make it happen. I'll save my brain power and desire for when the fit hits the shan in my NCC.
Windows Works. When I close the lid it takes a nap, and when I open the lid it wakes up. I didn't have to and create a script in
Linux is ready for people who like to tinker with stuff. Linux is not ready for your average AOL user who has been preprogramed to having everything work right out of the box.