Initial poster was rightly noting that the program is not about technical stuff but about pushing papers. Your worrying about the perception of managers and the desire of readjusting poster's perspective misses the point badly. "Tweaking the outputs"??? You're picking on the style of delivery instead of thinking of the problem. The problem, let me remind you, is the lack of STEM education. The program doesn't come with a solution, but perpetuates the problem. Maybe this clarifies a little...
meh, not sure about that. You keep forgetting that you don't have to write the whole program in Java, use the JNI and you could implement the parts that really need to be fast in C/C++... Java has some obvious advantages when it comes to portability, out-of-the-box supported libs, database connectivity, even some GUI, which might leave impression that it should be used everywhere. As you pointed out, it doesn't have to, but also the reciprocal is true, one shouldn't dismiss it just because it doesn't do well or fast enough certain operations.
First, I would not take someone with no experience in programming into any of my projects. I expect the projects I'm working on to be, at every level, as thorough as they can be, and this will not happen with a completely inexperienced person. IF I would decide that there is a small part completely isolated and replaceable (and re-writable by an experienced person in a couple of hours), which would not effect the performance and security of the product, then MAYBE. But, in general, would be a no.
Second, the fact that you assume that's the language that counts makes me see how inexperienced you are. Is not enough to know programming languages, one should know basics about how a computer works (some OS understanding), how certain networks or protocols work, what algorithms should be applied and when, basics about transactions, files operations and sharing, possibly databases, and frankly some parallelism and multi-threaded programming. I wouldn't be worried if one doesn't know that should use a "repeat/until" instead of a "for", but I'll be worried that a highly-used table in a database will be locked.
In conclusion, define a problem you'll personally like to solve (same way that youtube, facebook, twitter and myspace started), and bang in it until it starts looking like a "product". Consider it a serious project, think about source control, backups, test harness to check the performance and security, and it will give you enough insight to give you the experience you want... With a project done (or sufficiently advanced) at your belt, you should be a lot more marketable.
appreciate your answer. Don't appreciate Slashdot posting a story two-three months after I propose it. Because, as you noticed, Viliv is already on sale at Dynamism and I ALREADY OWN ONE. Not going to give too many details, but the software keyboard is fairly obnoxious. Otherwise exactly I wanted...
the "behavior" should not change, or the results? if we can't change the "behavior" in subclasses, then I guess we're not allowed to overwrite methods (behavior) either.
while I appreciate your details, they don't do anything but serve my point: ms doesn't mind having a features gap between mono and.net (since this will push people putting more money in real windows systems on which they have "feature-complete".net), and in the same time they play the "nice guys" by "allowing" almost-.net stuff on other OSs. for ms this is shooting two birds with one stone.
as for miguel de icaza's opinion, is unimportant, in the sense that he would better believe strongly that what he's doing is not PR, otherwise is a mere idiot or very well paid by MS/Novell. important is ms's opinion (real, if you please), on mono. I would be amazed if it was different than my first paragraph
quote from the mono project FAQ (http://www.mono-project.com/FAQ:_General): "The Mono API today is somewhere in between.NET 1.1 and.NET 2.0, see our Roadmap for details about what is implemented."
while looking at the MS website it seems that the latest.Net framework is 3.5.
frankly at this point I would seriously doubt that MS (or Novell, for that matter) has any serious intention of implementing.NET on anything else than Windows. Let's get real and see that the Mono or Moonlight projects are just PR... thanks.
I wouldn't expect a gun being involved in a case between the CD-WOW and the British Pornographic Industry...
Say what? British P-h-o-nographic industry? Oops.. forget it
yeah, but then you miss on the soviet russia joke opportunity. I'm afraid even my comment will generate a ton of soviet russia jokes.. I'm afraid even the comment to the comment will generate...
ok, since we are trolling here, let me tell you that the translation was a poor one. He originally said "I could make Duke Nukem Forever" but for some reason things here always get a microsoft spin..
I love the "An anonymous reader writes...". what's next? "In a related news, an anonymous writer reads..." ? the allways surprising crowd of/...
Otherwise I couldn't care less about the announcement. I swear
from the summary and comments, it's obvious that there is a business case for open source: open source pays and doesn't pay, possibly giving points which could be redeemable for cash, to american or offshore programmers. or not.
the problem with wii is that it requires certain intonation, you can't just shoot wii straight from the hip, it doesn't work. just like yahoo, the only correct way to say it is like in the commercial
Slashdot Mirror
In the best Greedo voice: "I find your lack of faith disturbing..."
Too much?
I understand you need the right arm for something else...
Initial poster was rightly noting that the program is not about technical stuff but about pushing papers. Your worrying about the perception of managers and the desire of readjusting poster's perspective misses the point badly. "Tweaking the outputs"??? You're picking on the style of delivery instead of thinking of the problem. The problem, let me remind you, is the lack of STEM education. The program doesn't come with a solution, but perpetuates the problem. Maybe this clarifies a little...
meh, not sure about that. You keep forgetting that you don't have to write the whole program in Java, use the JNI and you could implement the parts that really need to be fast in C/C++... Java has some obvious advantages when it comes to portability, out-of-the-box supported libs, database connectivity, even some GUI, which might leave impression that it should be used everywhere. As you pointed out, it doesn't have to, but also the reciprocal is true, one shouldn't dismiss it just because it doesn't do well or fast enough certain operations.
I'll try to be as unbiased and fair as I can.
First, I would not take someone with no experience in programming into any of my projects. I expect the projects I'm working on to be, at every level, as thorough as they can be, and this will not happen with a completely inexperienced person. IF I would decide that there is a small part completely isolated and replaceable (and re-writable by an experienced person in a couple of hours), which would not effect the performance and security of the product, then MAYBE. But, in general, would be a no.
Second, the fact that you assume that's the language that counts makes me see how inexperienced you are. Is not enough to know programming languages, one should know basics about how a computer works (some OS understanding), how certain networks or protocols work, what algorithms should be applied and when, basics about transactions, files operations and sharing, possibly databases, and frankly some parallelism and multi-threaded programming. I wouldn't be worried if one doesn't know that should use a "repeat/until" instead of a "for", but I'll be worried that a highly-used table in a database will be locked.
In conclusion, define a problem you'll personally like to solve (same way that youtube, facebook, twitter and myspace started), and bang in it until it starts looking like a "product". Consider it a serious project, think about source control, backups, test harness to check the performance and security, and it will give you enough insight to give you the experience you want... With a project done (or sufficiently advanced) at your belt, you should be a lot more marketable.
Good luck
appreciate your answer. Don't appreciate Slashdot posting a story two-three months after I propose it. Because, as you noticed, Viliv is already on sale at Dynamism and I ALREADY OWN ONE. Not going to give too many details, but the software keyboard is fairly obnoxious. Otherwise exactly I wanted...
the "behavior" should not change, or the results? if we can't change the "behavior" in subclasses, then I guess we're not allowed to overwrite methods (behavior) either.
Go back in time to 1960 and sell them for several hundred million each.
whoever modded parent "informative" needs a serious head check
while I appreciate your details, they don't do anything but serve my point: ms doesn't mind having a features gap between mono and .net (since this will push people putting more money in real windows systems on which they have "feature-complete" .net), and in the same time they play the "nice guys" by "allowing" almost-.net stuff on other OSs. for ms this is shooting two birds with one stone.
as for miguel de icaza's opinion, is unimportant, in the sense that he would better believe strongly that what he's doing is not PR, otherwise is a mere idiot or very well paid by MS/Novell. important is ms's opinion (real, if you please), on mono. I would be amazed if it was different than my first paragraph
quote from the mono project FAQ (http://www.mono-project.com/FAQ:_General): "The Mono API today is somewhere in between .NET 1.1 and .NET 2.0, see our Roadmap for details about what is implemented."
.Net framework is 3.5.
.NET on anything else than Windows. Let's get real and see that the Mono or Moonlight projects are just PR... thanks.
while looking at the MS website it seems that the latest
frankly at this point I would seriously doubt that MS (or Novell, for that matter) has any serious intention of implementing
anybody needs my tinfoil hat?
Their calculations predict that the access time could be maintained for up to a million years.
Please, call me when it gets to at least 2 millions...
I didn't realize those pictures with Ruben Studdard were saved in the cache...
although I must say you gave some hints with the "It takes you from early chapters on counting from one to five" part...
the combination of robots with bears starts showing treats from both kinds. the bear-head really believes that 135 kilos is 500 pounds..
I wouldn't expect a gun being involved in a case between the CD-WOW and the British Pornographic Industry... Say what? British P-h-o-nographic industry? Oops.. forget it
yeah, but then you miss on the soviet russia joke opportunity. I'm afraid even my comment will generate a ton of soviet russia jokes.. I'm afraid even the comment to the comment will generate...
ok, since we are trolling here, let me tell you that the translation was a poor one. He originally said "I could make Duke Nukem Forever" but for some reason things here always get a microsoft spin..
I don't know them, but I know they are out there..
from our point of view, you're doing your job VERY well.
keep up the good work.
signed, slashdot
historically speaking, eMule comes from eDonkey (eStallion) and eHorse (eMare)... Plus is sterile, RIAA likes that
probably I didn't stress enough in my post:
since I started writing in Java, I started running everywhere...
now that I repeat it, it doesn't sound funny anymore. forget it
I can speak only of myself, but since I started writing java code, I started running everywhere...
I love the "An anonymous reader writes...". what's next? "In a related news, an anonymous writer reads..." ? the allways surprising crowd of /...
Otherwise I couldn't care less about the announcement. I swear
from the summary and comments, it's obvious that there is a business case for open source: open source pays and doesn't pay, possibly giving points which could be redeemable for cash, to american or offshore programmers. or not.
the problem with wii is that it requires certain intonation, you can't just shoot wii straight from the hip, it doesn't work. just like yahoo, the only correct way to say it is like in the commercial