Want to reflect back on Maximilien Robespierre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... then? The EU and its past nations are filled with efforts to find people and alter the way entire nations think and function.
Re AC and "Why is being "plugged in" dystopian?"
The voice commands and all other voices used around the input mic are getting free offers of advanced CPU power in the cloud.
Every word, comment and background noise is been sold to 3rd and 4th parties.
A cat or dog in the background? Expect cat and dog ads.
The user is the product and has to pay for all that free CPU time.
Use the wrong worlds and the mil/gov rents that user data set too.
A keyboard allows a consumer to type in what they want or not.
A live on mic thats always "listening" picks up every part of a persons existence.
Once a brain is been tracked, the ads get even more exact. What makes a person feel fun can be personalized and sent back as an ad.
That user is really going crave buying sugar water for decades.
We have seen what persistent cookies and other efforts did to browsers and the early www. The user still had some control over their computer and could wipe all data in near real time. A networked live mic just keeps on collecting all sounds, voices for years.
Re AC and "web site they visited to have scripting control over their browser?"
A site offers no ads and its archives for x % of CPU use for y mins.
The user can build up an amount that grants ad free and/or archive use.
No credit card needed.
AC re micro and "can and do teach themselves. "
The computers sold and offered?
Dragon 32/64 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
BBC Micro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Amstrad CPC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
ZX Spectrum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The MSX architecture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ?
People found Basic in included computer booklets, published game books or magazines. They typed in the fun games.
Just typing in anther persons code is not learning how to code. Borrowing a tape, book or buying a magazine allowed a lot of people to play games. The 1980's generation did not all become experts and nations like the UK who invested so much in early computer education did not get to take over the emerging global computer market.
The US educational method was better. Teach math from traditional low cost books to students. Teach advanced math skills using lower cost calculators.
Then test all students to sort out the smart students. Offer the best of the best and only the best university places, scholarships.
No need to give every school in the USA lots of expensive early computers, have to invest in code skills, computers and "computer" teachers.
Test for math early on. Then let only best who passed all the testing on merit learn with expensive, new computers at university.
The US was then able to sell advanced computer products in the UK as the UK production lines closed and costs caught up with trying nation wide computer education.
Putting robot kits, new computers, more experts into schools will not make well below average and very average students into top computer experts.
Focus on the best at math and ensure after years of testing they get to a good university.
The other students might find jobs they enjoy in biology, further vocational education, the arts, sport, music, languages, transportation, housekeeping, teaching.
Such jobs use computers but that can be taught depending on the job.
Re "No sensitive data was lost, and they have released ALOT of info about this breach which is unusual"
Every document and file would have had a checksum. The new NSA buddy system and more contractor security than ever would now be in place in 5 eye nations.
Every access down a pipe or tube to any contractor has always been watched. Staff have all their home/work networks watched.
The entry of any intruder would have been detected in real time. The files copied and what was of interest examined.
The code litter of the intruder would have been studied and shared only with the USA and UK.
Nothing would have been said to any politician, the media, any other staff if this had been real.
The ASD would have only shared the results within the NSA and GCHQ. Nobody else has to know about real time intrusion detection or how intrusions are detected and what was found.
A fictional cyber news story for cyber budget growth. New cyber powers is in the media in near real time.
An actual cyber event would take a few more decades to get officially declassified and released.
Less of a bribe more of trying to lean from history.
"Australia 'cracked top-secret US jet fighter codes'"
http://www.news.com.au/nationa... (March 17, 2009)
"The Americans kept saying they'd provide the codes, but never did."
The new thinking is to spend big with the USA and everything will be so much better this generation.
Re "I wonder how they managed to do that without access to smartphone data?"
When the UK was tracking US and international funding and support in Ireland in the 1980's?
The UK just collected on every call into and out of Ireland. All domestic calls too. Voice prints made it easy.
Funding, support and methods get discovered when interring people talk too much on phones thinking that are hidden in lots of other random calls.
GCHQ listened in on Ireland (18 July 1999) https://www.theguardian.com/uk...
How Britain eavesdropped on Dublin (15 July 1999) http://www.independent.co.uk/n...
What to do about smart phone with new encryption? Gov malware will get under that:)
The other really smart thing the UK did was never tell anyone what they did. Only the UK mil, GCHQ and Royal Ulster Constabulary Special Branch really got to see what was collected. No courts, police, human rights lawyers, media, telco workers really had any idea what was been done and the UK ensured it kept is secrets and kept on collecting everything in real time.
Contrast that with US methods, crypto, gov malware been commented on in public 2017.
Gov pushed malware is going to be running under, over, around and with better encryption. The better encryption will be tested, passed and work perfectly.
So will the gov malware.
Re "Or should I be comforted to know that the Russians will soon find their computing infrastructure subject to all the virii and worms that the West has to deal with?"
Smarter nations would have looked back over computer history. Learned from well placed spies about how software and networks get used by other nations.
Fund their own new look Ada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... and support a national hardware CPU effort?
Keep on buying and using a network access point for the NSA, MI6, CIA, GCHQ?
Have to keep skills in Western products as they run critical infrastructure, fun computer games and keep local industry working for exports?
A change over to a national code base, domestic OS and hardware takes time but then every line of code is understood.
A lost day, week, month, year of exports during a change over to a national OS and fully understood CPU?
Keep exporting over the same time with US and EU OS/hardware that still works and only needs regular maintenance?
Thats what any normal gov, mil and spy agency would do.
They would feed code litter and junk to another nation for years with nobody finding out. No human spies to get a warning back, no network detection. Just a flow of quality networked disinformation for years.
Many, many decades later they would hint at that cyber success they had in a fictional movie. Archives get opened to the public a few decades later.
If the cyber story is in the media and random people are commenting about it in near real time.....
If a nation was smart enough to find another nations spyware, staging servers it would not get detected on the internet tubes later.
Human spies and other trusted networks would warn that all US gov/mil staff, networks are been watched.
That any code, gems or code litter was now been tracked in real time as US staff worked.
No skilled nation would fall for that a later cyber tracking trap.
Nation A spies on nation B.
Nation A tells nation C about what it "found" deep in nation B.
Nation A and C then publish what they found from all their spying on nation B in near real time.
Nation B is then accused of "spying" to cover for what nation A and C really did.
In the real world nation A and C would have kept that a secret and created all kinds of fake litter for nation B to find and believe in.
If fantastic details are in the open media its just something fictional to publish and push national cyber talking points.
Real spy success stories stays secret for decades so a nation B never knew what really happened.
Rail, bus, light rail, streetcar, bicycle. The alteration of city roads to bus lanes, bicycle use and a few trendy electric pods.
Big gov will just keep using taxes and local gov laws to force more people to wait in the cold, sit in the cold, walk in the rain. Save up and buy electric.
Any attempt to keep using petrol cars will be discouraged with more taxation.
The future is been packed into shared city transport with a few private sector electric pods to virtue signal with.
The market will be swayed by new tax considerations.
Buy electric and its all cool. No new tax.
Dont buy electric and risk having to pay again and again for driving that luxury import.
Then one day its an electric pod, a bigger electric pod. An electric van or truck for people who can really prove they need that kind of transport for work.
The free market feels the full force of socialism.
Free to import a car or drive an antique on select private roads and tracks but a limited selection of new electric pod cars will be all most people can afford to drive.
The wider population does not get to enjoy the car, SUV, truck, van they want. The government moves the tax system to force most of the population to buy a new electric pod.
Who gets a review?
USA, UK, NZ, AU, Canada?
Some of the more trusted NATO nations? All of NATO? Nations wishing to join NATO soon?
Some other nations? A China? Brazil? Japan?
Why would any nation buy into a security product they have not seen all the code to?
Other developers will just offer their products for review. How long before nations just say no review, no buy?
An Operation Mincemeat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... got started by one part of the smarter parts of the US mil.
Another part of the US gov desperate from some cyber action told the waiting media about the US cyber skills in action seeing plans "moving" down the internet tubes.
The US gov is now so big its spying on its own tubes and different sections are desperate for bigger budgets and good cyber news stories.
One good hidden mil plan becomes a contractor race to tell the media.
Recall the US "Magic Lantern" keystroke logger and demands for antivirus vendor cooperation.
Magic Lantern (software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
They can match it back up with
"UK Spy Agency Collected Webcam Images From Yahoo Users With The Help Of NSA, Report Says" Feb 27, 2014 https://techcrunch.com/2014/02...
Collect it all just keeps on giving.
Re:Change your beard style?
Given how much data is collected from any face (nose, eyes, mouth, lips, jaw measurements) enough unique data should exist from other face measurements that did not change with a beard.
The problem, of normal face changes was fix years ago.
The real money was in top, down, side, looking up CCTV collection. Working with much less face on direct, 2d like face data. That was a real 3d challenge.
If an average person is looking at the device, a lot of measurements should be able to ID most users.
Re "What I haven't seen is how NSA learned that the Russians obtained that information"
The US gov created some new file that acts like malware in the wild when lost or activated at home.
All part of the digital contractor buddy system upgrades. Files that report if they get taken outside of any secure US mil/gov location.
Such prepared file actions would have been detected by any good AV app as new malware in the wild.
The AV app reports a new sample of unexpected malware code in the OS.
The US gov notes their new contractor tracking malware got detected in the wild.
The NSA is tracking all its contractors and their internet connections.
AV detecting new US malware is presented as US gov files floating around the internet.
Re " hackers stole documents from the contractor's laptop"
If Russia had never seen the "documents" how did they know what to look for?
AV thats not cloud based would not be uploading users random large documents from all over the world randomly.
People would notice the up bandwidth clogged and note all their documents got AV uploaded on capped bandwidth consumer networks.
Did the NSA activate its malware into the wild again and see AV detecting US malware actions in the wild in real time?
Thats what any good AV product would do. AV would report new, strange malware trying to get networking or hide deeper into an OS.
Slashdot Mirror
Want to reflect back on Maximilien Robespierre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... then? The EU and its past nations are filled with efforts to find people and alter the way entire nations think and function.
Re AC and "Why is being "plugged in" dystopian?"
The voice commands and all other voices used around the input mic are getting free offers of advanced CPU power in the cloud.
Every word, comment and background noise is been sold to 3rd and 4th parties.
A cat or dog in the background? Expect cat and dog ads.
The user is the product and has to pay for all that free CPU time.
Use the wrong worlds and the mil/gov rents that user data set too.
A keyboard allows a consumer to type in what they want or not.
A live on mic thats always "listening" picks up every part of a persons existence.
Once a brain is been tracked, the ads get even more exact. What makes a person feel fun can be personalized and sent back as an ad.
That user is really going crave buying sugar water for decades.
We have seen what persistent cookies and other efforts did to browsers and the early www. The user still had some control over their computer and could wipe all data in near real time. A networked live mic just keeps on collecting all sounds, voices for years.
Re AC and "web site they visited to have scripting control over their browser?"
A site offers no ads and its archives for x % of CPU use for y mins.
The user can build up an amount that grants ad free and/or archive use.
No credit card needed.
AC re micro and "can and do teach themselves. "
The computers sold and offered?
Dragon 32/64 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
BBC Micro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Amstrad CPC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
ZX Spectrum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The MSX architecture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ?
People found Basic in included computer booklets, published game books or magazines. They typed in the fun games.
Just typing in anther persons code is not learning how to code. Borrowing a tape, book or buying a magazine allowed a lot of people to play games. The 1980's generation did not all become experts and nations like the UK who invested so much in early computer education did not get to take over the emerging global computer market.
The US educational method was better. Teach math from traditional low cost books to students. Teach advanced math skills using lower cost calculators.
Then test all students to sort out the smart students. Offer the best of the best and only the best university places, scholarships.
No need to give every school in the USA lots of expensive early computers, have to invest in code skills, computers and "computer" teachers.
Test for math early on. Then let only best who passed all the testing on merit learn with expensive, new computers at university.
The US was then able to sell advanced computer products in the UK as the UK production lines closed and costs caught up with trying nation wide computer education.
Putting robot kits, new computers, more experts into schools will not make well below average and very average students into top computer experts.
Focus on the best at math and ensure after years of testing they get to a good university.
The other students might find jobs they enjoy in biology, further vocational education, the arts, sport, music, languages, transportation, housekeeping, teaching.
Such jobs use computers but that can be taught depending on the job.
A stingray or Dirtbox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... for a drone?
Re "No sensitive data was lost, and they have released ALOT of info about this breach which is unusual"
Every document and file would have had a checksum. The new NSA buddy system and more contractor security than ever would now be in place in 5 eye nations.
Every access down a pipe or tube to any contractor has always been watched. Staff have all their home/work networks watched.
The entry of any intruder would have been detected in real time. The files copied and what was of interest examined.
The code litter of the intruder would have been studied and shared only with the USA and UK.
Nothing would have been said to any politician, the media, any other staff if this had been real.
The ASD would have only shared the results within the NSA and GCHQ. Nobody else has to know about real time intrusion detection or how intrusions are detected and what was found.
A fictional cyber news story for cyber budget growth. New cyber powers is in the media in near real time.
An actual cyber event would take a few more decades to get officially declassified and released.
Less of a bribe more of trying to lean from history.
"Australia 'cracked top-secret US jet fighter codes'" http://www.news.com.au/nationa... (March 17, 2009)
"The Americans kept saying they'd provide the codes, but never did."
The new thinking is to spend big with the USA and everything will be so much better this generation.
Re "I wonder how they managed to do that without access to smartphone data?" :)
When the UK was tracking US and international funding and support in Ireland in the 1980's?
The UK just collected on every call into and out of Ireland. All domestic calls too. Voice prints made it easy.
Funding, support and methods get discovered when interring people talk too much on phones thinking that are hidden in lots of other random calls.
GCHQ listened in on Ireland (18 July 1999) https://www.theguardian.com/uk...
How Britain eavesdropped on Dublin (15 July 1999) http://www.independent.co.uk/n...
What to do about smart phone with new encryption? Gov malware will get under that
The other really smart thing the UK did was never tell anyone what they did. Only the UK mil, GCHQ and Royal Ulster Constabulary Special Branch really got to see what was collected. No courts, police, human rights lawyers, media, telco workers really had any idea what was been done and the UK ensured it kept is secrets and kept on collecting everything in real time.
Contrast that with US methods, crypto, gov malware been commented on in public 2017.
Gov pushed malware is going to be running under, over, around and with better encryption. The better encryption will be tested, passed and work perfectly.
So will the gov malware.
Govs want what they had for
SISMI-Telecom scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Greek wiretapping case 2004–05 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...–05
Re "Or should I be comforted to know that the Russians will soon find their computing infrastructure subject to all the virii and worms that the West has to deal with?"
Smarter nations would have looked back over computer history. Learned from well placed spies about how software and networks get used by other nations.
Fund their own new look Ada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... and support a national hardware CPU effort?
Keep on buying and using a network access point for the NSA, MI6, CIA, GCHQ?
Have to keep skills in Western products as they run critical infrastructure, fun computer games and keep local industry working for exports?
A change over to a national code base, domestic OS and hardware takes time but then every line of code is understood.
A lost day, week, month, year of exports during a change over to a national OS and fully understood CPU?
Keep exporting over the same time with US and EU OS/hardware that still works and only needs regular maintenance?
Thats what any normal gov, mil and spy agency would do.
They would feed code litter and junk to another nation for years with nobody finding out. No human spies to get a warning back, no network detection. Just a flow of quality networked disinformation for years.
Many, many decades later they would hint at that cyber success they had in a fictional movie. Archives get opened to the public a few decades later.
If the cyber story is in the media and random people are commenting about it in near real time.....
If a nation was smart enough to find another nations spyware, staging servers it would not get detected on the internet tubes later.
Human spies and other trusted networks would warn that all US gov/mil staff, networks are been watched.
That any code, gems or code litter was now been tracked in real time as US staff worked.
No skilled nation would fall for that a later cyber tracking trap.
1+ for that AC.
All the work on Stuxnet, Equation Group and other efforts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Nation A spies on nation B. Nation A tells nation C about what it "found" deep in nation B.
Nation A and C then publish what they found from all their spying on nation B in near real time.
Nation B is then accused of "spying" to cover for what nation A and C really did.
In the real world nation A and C would have kept that a secret and created all kinds of fake litter for nation B to find and believe in.
If fantastic details are in the open media its just something fictional to publish and push national cyber talking points.
Real spy success stories stays secret for decades so a nation B never knew what really happened.
Rail, bus, light rail, streetcar, bicycle. The alteration of city roads to bus lanes, bicycle use and a few trendy electric pods.
Big gov will just keep using taxes and local gov laws to force more people to wait in the cold, sit in the cold, walk in the rain. Save up and buy electric.
Any attempt to keep using petrol cars will be discouraged with more taxation.
The future is been packed into shared city transport with a few private sector electric pods to virtue signal with.
The market will be swayed by new tax considerations.
Buy electric and its all cool. No new tax.
Dont buy electric and risk having to pay again and again for driving that luxury import.
Then one day its an electric pod, a bigger electric pod. An electric van or truck for people who can really prove they need that kind of transport for work.
The free market feels the full force of socialism.
Free to import a car or drive an antique on select private roads and tracks but a limited selection of new electric pod cars will be all most people can afford to drive.
The wider population does not get to enjoy the car, SUV, truck, van they want. The government moves the tax system to force most of the population to buy a new electric pod.
Who gets a review?
USA, UK, NZ, AU, Canada?
Some of the more trusted NATO nations? All of NATO? Nations wishing to join NATO soon?
Some other nations? A China? Brazil? Japan?
Why would any nation buy into a security product they have not seen all the code to?
Other developers will just offer their products for review. How long before nations just say no review, no buy?
An Operation Mincemeat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... got started by one part of the smarter parts of the US mil.
Another part of the US gov desperate from some cyber action told the waiting media about the US cyber skills in action seeing plans "moving" down the internet tubes.
The US gov is now so big its spying on its own tubes and different sections are desperate for bigger budgets and good cyber news stories.
One good hidden mil plan becomes a contractor race to tell the media.
... to see how big, deep and wide the true depth notch is :)
Recall the US "Magic Lantern" keystroke logger and demands for antivirus vendor cooperation.
Magic Lantern (software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
They can match it back up with
"UK Spy Agency Collected Webcam Images From Yahoo Users With The Help Of NSA, Report Says" Feb 27, 2014
https://techcrunch.com/2014/02...
Collect it all just keeps on giving.
Re:Change your beard style?
Given how much data is collected from any face (nose, eyes, mouth, lips, jaw measurements) enough unique data should exist from other face measurements that did not change with a beard.
The problem, of normal face changes was fix years ago.
The real money was in top, down, side, looking up CCTV collection. Working with much less face on direct, 2d like face data. That was a real 3d challenge.
If an average person is looking at the device, a lot of measurements should be able to ID most users.
Stuxnet
Flame
Equation Group
Duqu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Highly sophisticated malware gets found and the internet is safer.
Re "What I haven't seen is how NSA learned that the Russians obtained that information"
The US gov created some new file that acts like malware in the wild when lost or activated at home.
All part of the digital contractor buddy system upgrades. Files that report if they get taken outside of any secure US mil/gov location.
Such prepared file actions would have been detected by any good AV app as new malware in the wild.
The AV app reports a new sample of unexpected malware code in the OS.
The US gov notes their new contractor tracking malware got detected in the wild.
The NSA is tracking all its contractors and their internet connections.
AV detecting new US malware is presented as US gov files floating around the internet.
Re " hackers stole documents from the contractor's laptop"
If Russia had never seen the "documents" how did they know what to look for?
AV thats not cloud based would not be uploading users random large documents from all over the world randomly.
People would notice the up bandwidth clogged and note all their documents got AV uploaded on capped bandwidth consumer networks.
Did the NSA activate its malware into the wild again and see AV detecting US malware actions in the wild in real time?
Thats what any good AV product would do. AV would report new, strange malware trying to get networking or hide deeper into an OS.