Yes you have some very interesting insights.
From the US gov down you have a defective crypto/telco network, big brands working to decrypt, handing over users data vs dreamy legal teams and reassuring privacy statements.
As for "monitor all your stuff" the internal security of many firms would have a few issues to watch for:
Contact with the press, headhunting (recruitment by another firm), union activity, environmental activism, contact with state or federal regulators, academic 'tell all' books, foreigners, faith, entrapment/blackmail.
That home phone and internet, cell phone might be fair game depending on the clearance level, or projects done by other distant divisions or parent company:)
Adamo Bove was the head of security at Telecom Italia and exposed the CIA, SISMI ( ~ the Italian CIA) in court with "strength of several "visible" towers and their relative geographical location" during the CIA/Italy extraordinary rendition affair in 2003.
The propaganda value is letting a lot of suckpuppets, pundits, talking heads and tame academics quote this story as saying domestic legal protection work and always have.
Cell tower triangulation and in the past aircraft. You get the voice print, conversation, metadata, text and the phones unique brand characteristics.
The nice domestic legal aspect is you can hide from the telco and hide from federal and state laws. Fly a mil plane over a larger city looking for anti war protesters all year:)
Contractors get paid, flight hours add up, domestic data flows in.
Long term this also insulates the telcos legal department, just looking after correct law enforcement requests.
Yes the mod aspect on slashdot can be interesting to tame. I have seen sockpuppets try a few things.
1) Submit a variety of stories to give their main 'name' political and tech cover later.
"See I" like tech too, "see I" think of rights too, but then on an issue/comment they will work hard to change the political conversation.
2) Comment as a AC to see what "works": jokes, more left leaning links, right wing foundations, direct personal attacks or passive agreement with slight corrections.
3) Return to the next stories knowing with the more successful methods thanks to AC testing or having blunted a topic.
The more creative sockpuppets do try hard to care for their main name but classically seem to lose it in one outburst of pure ideological rage or current speaking point/item of propaganda.
4) Submit a controversial story very early in a bland way, taking all interesting aspects out of the submission other than the gov is working on/correcting the issue (very Soviet).
5) Endless loops demanding citation needed. A very classic busy work trap.
Long term it would be fun to put a lot of the longer blocks of "sockpuppet" work into some form of linguistic analysis.
Are they really a computer person who has a story to tell on a site, wants to change the politics of a site or something much more interesting.
Recall the damage done to education in Alabama, Mississippi and South Carolina by the General Education Board after the War of Northern Aggression? English, math and science best left for college preparatory classes.
Once you have their code, you never credit it back.
She can touch your gui, but never your code.
Beware of female social engineering for your admin privileges.
It will be interesting to see how some ISP move from adsl1/2, VDSL2, HFC to optical while considering security challenged consumer operating systems.
A clause about deep packet inspection, ongoing monitoring and the option for dynamic ISP speed reductions?
Re: their own back yard
Think of the regional cash expansion of long term 'holding' buildings and related services, the expert guards needed, interrogators, language experts, cleared psychologists, cleared psychiatrists, medical teams for force feeding, cleared maintenance staff, expanded fly in fly out support and quality local accommodation. Thats a lot of instant state contracting and generational federal funding. *Lawyers not included.
A wise contractor and state could even draft lucrative occupancy guarantee provisions, say 95-100%.
"supported by all three branches of government", "compliance problems", "gone too far at various times and in various aspects" does not mean legal.
"with modern transportation and the transformational nature of modern communications" so we are back to a nice friendly "living document" view of US rights that makes illegal domestic surveillance not illegal.
What has "fundamentally" changed Cold is the vision of a legal 'lock box' via domestic surveillance ending up in domestic court at the whim of political leaders.
Yes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO version 2.0 would be unleashed on any of the non-mainstream parties talking to each other.
The last time labor, anti war, law reform, minority and indigenous groups tried to work together they where shattered.
Left, right, poor, faith, wealth, city, race, suburban groups would be played off against each other against a setting of scandal.
Every section of the US gov will be sending out quality PR like that Cold. With the right mil/political/contractor/news traction they might get a post shutdown budget bump. Even better they might get new laws to ensure future shutdowns bypass their "staff".
Re: spiralled out of control, there would always be counter-forces that would set it right.
Where have we seen this before? GRU vs KGB? GCHQ vs UK gov demands for crime related intercepts to be used in open/closed courts?
Who would be at odds with the NSA spying program within the US gov?
The NSA has had a huge raise to fame, power, political access and departmental prestige over the past 10 years (~in public).
That has not gone unnoticed by the CIA and other powerful factions. The NSA was seen in a more a technical role back in the 1990's with a 'stated' budget to reflect its standing.
For the NSA to rise, other groups have had to make way, share or worse 'lost' political power or funding.
Where once the NSA might have been invited in to give a technical opinion or submit a paper on projected enemy actions....
The NSA may have a vote or in the future see itself setting policy.
Sections of the US gov are very thankful for the emerging global, financial and domestic insights they get. Other sections of the US gov/mil see that as encroaching on their historic roles.
The other option is the CIA/MI6 "used" the NSA as a limited hangout to sell a much larger story to Russia or China. Russia or China seem to know to be more wary about gifts like that and know how to play the media now.
The last option is legal the forging of a domestic and foreign entity - shield and sword like.
How factions in the FBI and CIA would respond short or long term is unpredictable.
http://www.stripes.com/news/obama-signs-law-to-pay-servicemembers-during-shutdown-1.244356
"Defense Finance and Accounting Services, which learned yesterday it would continue issuing paychecks for most employees of the department."
The interesting aspect is exempt versus nonexempt civilians and the staff numbers now depended on by the DoD.
The US learned a lot from the MI6/Mi5 and GCHQ 1950-80's years - keep your clandestine staff funded or Moscow will:)
Yes people can read about the "each will have a place under imaginable conditions" at: http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/
Bans, taxes, cognitively infiltrate, gov funded counter speech....
Re your 'food, shelter, and clothing -- and we need those right now" are connected to safe communications world wide.
The standardisation of law enforcement telco systems has gifted many evil govs the tools (via Western contractors) the ability to watch any NGO, protest movements, law reform efforts, unions, human rights workers, former political leaders, authors, or the press working in the "food, shelter, and clothing" areas.
Snowden matters as he was the final connection allowing good people in tech support, coders, cryptographers, developers to go to their 'boss' and seek air gaps or change their network/database/crypto deployment/software buying habits.
Done right it will need physical site access to get the same data out that once could be seen from/via networks.
Junk net encryption bought the US 10 years (not going way back to telegram reading) but the faulty devices are still in use, still been bought.
What other groups, people, govs will get days, months, many years of data access once they start looking at faulty imported tech?
Thats the CIA talking about the "CIA" in 2007 Cold i.e. 'according to current and former U.S. intelligence officials'.
Interesting thats just around the "CIA destroyed video of 'waterboarding' al-Qaida detainees" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/dec/07/usa.humanrights
Other term used might be "Category III" techniques, "harsh techniques", "water treatment", "near asphyxiation from water" or a suggested "wet towel and dripping water to induce the misperception of suffocation". Starting to see a pattern Cold? If you can define away the actual term "waterboarding", then proudly list the departments and agencies that did not engage in torture.... any gov agency can get very low "waterboarding" usage numbers:)
Re doesn't want to spy on... employees?
It can be an interesting saga. Fly in weapons and support for 'freedom' fighters via front companies but can your 'wage' legally exist?
Wage rich, tax statement poor. Any outside agency with that kind insight has long term power over individuals.
Re;The US only waterboarded three people in total, the last of which was ten years ago.
The US does not like to call it "water boarding" so they can say it was not common or not used or not found.
If you do some reading Cold you can easily find the term the US liked was "wet towel" technique to contain the perception of water boarding.
Slashdot Mirror
Yes you have some very interesting insights. :)
From the US gov down you have a defective crypto/telco network, big brands working to decrypt, handing over users data vs dreamy legal teams and reassuring privacy statements.
As for "monitor all your stuff" the internal security of many firms would have a few issues to watch for:
Contact with the press, headhunting (recruitment by another firm), union activity, environmental activism, contact with state or federal regulators, academic 'tell all' books, foreigners, faith, entrapment/blackmail.
That home phone and internet, cell phone might be fair game depending on the clearance level, or projects done by other distant divisions or parent company
Adamo Bove was the head of security at Telecom Italia and exposed the CIA, SISMI ( ~ the Italian CIA) in court with "strength of several "visible" towers and their relative geographical location" during the CIA/Italy extraordinary rendition affair in 2003.
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-09-29/nsa-central-us-assassination-program
You also had the http://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2013/sep/27/seymour-hersh-obama-nsa-american-media
The propaganda value is letting a lot of suckpuppets, pundits, talking heads and tame academics quote this story as saying domestic legal protection work and always have.
Cell tower triangulation and in the past aircraft. You get the voice print, conversation, metadata, text and the phones unique brand characteristics. :)
The nice domestic legal aspect is you can hide from the telco and hide from federal and state laws. Fly a mil plane over a larger city looking for anti war protesters all year
Contractors get paid, flight hours add up, domestic data flows in. Long term this also insulates the telcos legal department, just looking after correct law enforcement requests.
Yes the mod aspect on slashdot can be interesting to tame. I have seen sockpuppets try a few things.
1) Submit a variety of stories to give their main 'name' political and tech cover later.
"See I" like tech too, "see I" think of rights too, but then on an issue/comment they will work hard to change the political conversation.
2) Comment as a AC to see what "works": jokes, more left leaning links, right wing foundations, direct personal attacks or passive agreement with slight corrections.
3) Return to the next stories knowing with the more successful methods thanks to AC testing or having blunted a topic. The more creative sockpuppets do try hard to care for their main name but classically seem to lose it in one outburst of pure ideological rage or current speaking point/item of propaganda.
4) Submit a controversial story very early in a bland way, taking all interesting aspects out of the submission other than the gov is working on/correcting the issue (very Soviet).
5) Endless loops demanding citation needed. A very classic busy work trap.
Long term it would be fun to put a lot of the longer blocks of "sockpuppet" work into some form of linguistic analysis.
Are they really a computer person who has a story to tell on a site, wants to change the politics of a site or something much more interesting.
Recall the damage done to education in Alabama, Mississippi and South Carolina by the General Education Board after the War of Northern Aggression?
English, math and science best left for college preparatory classes.
With census data and a wide set of job descriptions you could chart back to the ~1950's?
Once you have their code, you never credit it back.
She can touch your gui, but never your code.
Beware of female social engineering for your admin privileges.
Try submitting in your resume :)
It will be interesting to see how some ISP move from adsl1/2, VDSL2, HFC to optical while considering security challenged consumer operating systems.
A clause about deep packet inspection, ongoing monitoring and the option for dynamic ISP speed reductions?
Re: their own back yard
Think of the regional cash expansion of long term 'holding' buildings and related services, the expert guards needed, interrogators, language experts, cleared psychologists, cleared psychiatrists, medical teams for force feeding, cleared maintenance staff, expanded fly in fly out support and quality local accommodation. Thats a lot of instant state contracting and generational federal funding. *Lawyers not included.
A wise contractor and state could even draft lucrative occupancy guarantee provisions, say 95-100%.
"supported by all three branches of government", "compliance problems", "gone too far at various times and in various aspects" does not mean legal.
"with modern transportation and the transformational nature of modern communications" so we are back to a nice friendly "living document" view of US rights that makes illegal domestic surveillance not illegal.
What has "fundamentally" changed Cold is the vision of a legal 'lock box' via domestic surveillance ending up in domestic court at the whim of political leaders.
Yes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO version 2.0 would be unleashed on any of the non-mainstream parties talking to each other.
The last time labor, anti war, law reform, minority and indigenous groups tried to work together they where shattered.
Left, right, poor, faith, wealth, city, race, suburban groups would be played off against each other against a setting of scandal.
Every section of the US gov will be sending out quality PR like that Cold. With the right mil/political/contractor/news traction they might get a post shutdown budget bump.
Even better they might get new laws to ensure future shutdowns bypass their "staff".
Re: spiralled out of control, there would always be counter-forces that would set it right.
Where have we seen this before? GRU vs KGB? GCHQ vs UK gov demands for crime related intercepts to be used in open/closed courts?
Who would be at odds with the NSA spying program within the US gov?
The NSA has had a huge raise to fame, power, political access and departmental prestige over the past 10 years (~in public).
That has not gone unnoticed by the CIA and other powerful factions. The NSA was seen in a more a technical role back in the 1990's with a 'stated' budget to reflect its standing.
For the NSA to rise, other groups have had to make way, share or worse 'lost' political power or funding.
Where once the NSA might have been invited in to give a technical opinion or submit a paper on projected enemy actions....
The NSA may have a vote or in the future see itself setting policy.
Sections of the US gov are very thankful for the emerging global, financial and domestic insights they get. Other sections of the US gov/mil see that as encroaching on their historic roles.
The other option is the CIA/MI6 "used" the NSA as a limited hangout to sell a much larger story to Russia or China. Russia or China seem to know to be more wary about gifts like that and know how to play the media now.
The last option is legal the forging of a domestic and foreign entity - shield and sword like.
How factions in the FBI and CIA would respond short or long term is unpredictable.
http://www.stripes.com/news/obama-signs-law-to-pay-servicemembers-during-shutdown-1.244356 :)
"Defense Finance and Accounting Services, which learned yesterday it would continue issuing paychecks for most employees of the department."
The interesting aspect is exempt versus nonexempt civilians and the staff numbers now depended on by the DoD.
The US learned a lot from the MI6/Mi5 and GCHQ 1950-80's years - keep your clandestine staff funded or Moscow will
Yes people can read about the "each will have a place under imaginable conditions" at:
http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/
Bans, taxes, cognitively infiltrate, gov funded counter speech....
Re your 'food, shelter, and clothing -- and we need those right now" are connected to safe communications world wide.
The standardisation of law enforcement telco systems has gifted many evil govs the tools (via Western contractors) the ability to watch any NGO, protest movements, law reform efforts, unions, human rights workers, former political leaders, authors, or the press working in the "food, shelter, and clothing" areas.
Snowden matters as he was the final connection allowing good people in tech support, coders, cryptographers, developers to go to their 'boss' and seek air gaps or change their network/database/crypto deployment/software buying habits.
Done right it will need physical site access to get the same data out that once could be seen from/via networks.
Junk net encryption bought the US 10 years (not going way back to telegram reading) but the faulty devices are still in use, still been bought.
What other groups, people, govs will get days, months, many years of data access once they start looking at faulty imported tech?
Thats the CIA talking about the "CIA" in 2007 Cold i.e. 'according to current and former U.S. intelligence officials'. :)
Interesting thats just around the "CIA destroyed video of 'waterboarding' al-Qaida detainees" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/dec/07/usa.humanrights
Other term used might be "Category III" techniques, "harsh techniques", "water treatment", "near asphyxiation from water" or a suggested "wet towel and dripping water to induce the misperception of suffocation".
Starting to see a pattern Cold? If you can define away the actual term "waterboarding", then proudly list the departments and agencies that did not engage in torture.... any gov agency can get very low "waterboarding" usage numbers
Re "inaccurate, wrong and misleading":
The 3g side can be seen as another security option for: power is connected, a computer of interest is networked: ~wake up and authorized administrator commands sent.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/sandy-bridge-vpro-core-i7,12353.html
Re doesn't want to spy on ... employees?
It can be an interesting saga. Fly in weapons and support for 'freedom' fighters via front companies but can your 'wage' legally exist?
Wage rich, tax statement poor. Any outside agency with that kind insight has long term power over individuals.
AC did you miss the news:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-user-data
http://rt.com/usa/microsoft-nsa-snowden-leak-971/
Re;The US only waterboarded three people in total, the last of which was ten years ago.
The US does not like to call it "water boarding" so they can say it was not common or not used or not found.
If you do some reading Cold you can easily find the term the US liked was "wet towel" technique to contain the perception of water boarding.
Cold you may like some more background into the US policy of killing its own citizens:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/23/us/us-acknowledges-killing-4-americans-in-drone-strikes.html