Yes more was linked to http://www.bradreese.com/blog/9-3-2013.htm
"every test that Agent Johnson does can affect national security and that people could be put in danger."
They got Stinger, radio networks, help with bunkers, tactics, weapons systems, a clear understanding of Soviet air transport.
The US and UK worked hard with what they had.
It motivates mil/gov spending by the West and keeps many people in great jobs. Freedom fighters can do what a nation state may not want to be seen doing. Win win.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clandestine_cell_system provides some background.
Ireland is really a great place to start in terms of operational cells and how the UK was able to 'buy'/'spy' their way in once a few members where connected.
If the enemy get in deep, internal security structure can be persuaded to hunt their own cells.
Cells were great for sneaker net but with todays cell and net use - its getting more tricky.
Re: Everything is on computer networks that a person wanted to type/search for. Chatrooms may give some insight but people can be trolling/trying/sucking up to become a mod or really just like the topic and hold back from anything too personal. Images and comments on web 2.0 can be selected or rejected to build a brand or project quality or fun or prove a connection to some short term fad.
The internet allows a person to relax, think and search before committing anything down or to be very creative..
As for older family or even other family of the same age opening up online about the complexities of another family member....
Some are not online, may only use google or web 2.0 for hobbies and networking with community groups/shopping/hobbies/looking for fiction.
That pretty clear picture presented in the digital world can all be a front/joke/friend building/a collaborative fantasy.
As for friends who are not in their neighbourhood anymore - thats why the US gov did work nation wide to find real people. Cities, small country towns, dusty roads.
The insights and huge gaps in a persons past can be slowly worked out.
As for the Russians, once they have a list of people on a project/team of interest to them- they too will look. The bars/club/gym/book shop/cafe/hobby until a real person falls into place.
It will be interesting. Soviet/Warsaw pact equipment updated with data from Serbia/former Yugoslavia/NATO vs US drones and their digital efforts.
Will the drones face:
Blowpipe and stay up?
Or Stinger and have some issues?
Can the drones offer the mercenaries/externally funded 'freedom' fighters a total victory on the cheap?
Will the special forces have to call in the older US equipment to allow their 'freedom' fighters to gain total victory?
Thats the Cocaine Import Company:)
As for an ongoing war on a tactic, most nations surviving double tap drone strikes would have their nations best and brightest thinking about their airspace.
You dont think their CIA/SAS handlers in the Soviet/Chechen days passed on a few hints about what a nation state will be seeking/expect and how to play the system?
As for the contractor boondoggle aspect - funding is flowing for drones, the targeting chips and the huge generational upgrades. Contractors based around the manned systems might be pushing back by bringing "intercepted messages" or "chatter" out to bolster their hold on huge contracts.
1) No criminal history - if your from a good family...the computer says your ok...
2) No heavy debt or credit issues - some seem to be very over extended...
3) No skeletons in the closet to feed blackmail - you would really think that one would be vital... http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/pentagon-declined-investigate-hundreds-purchases-child-pornography.html
4) No drug and only light alcohol use - always good to test for.
5) No relationships with foreign nationals - but you sooooo need that regional dialect, language, cultural insight.
6) US citizen goes without saying, foreign born may disqualify you. - some nations are more equal than others and the US really has risked/lost so much on the dual citizen aspect.
Re few youngsters
They would understand how to sockpuppet, be up with slag, the culture, spelling, music, tech and faith.
They would also have been bought up in a world at war and could be more ideologically hardened with less of that early 1990's base closure/very early dot com days emotional baggage.
Then you have the math and CS elite, nurtured in top US universities - who know the role and wealth their parents enjoyed or are climbing out of poverty.
The dual citizenship question has issues too - too much US only material flows back to the real country of origin.
Twice or more is the real mind game. Watch for the pre interview and they will watch you in the waiting area. What you read (on the net before and on the day), how you act, how you sit.
Then the interview, then the questions, finally the hardware is hooked up... after the hardware... more cute questions and offers to 'help', been on your side... if you are truthful NOW.... its all in the "other" questions and the build up over 2-3 tests.
The UK looked at the tests the US offered in the 1980's and found them to be total junk. Good staff would be lost/never hired, bad people would get to advance unnoticed.
Yes if the gov did not interview your extended family and friends... teachers, neighbours - your clearance was done (post 911) by a contractor, mostly state/federal searches on a computer, ie if its not networked it was never really uncovered. The US gov has really created huge security mess long term.
People the gov will not really know are moving up in the cleared systems and networks with totally unknown pasts eg the really basic stuff of state sealed youth court issues, school, personality...
What the US missed in its hast, the Russians will find over time.- offering cash or exposure or understanding.
The old non adsl 'donated/charity' exchanges, copper quality and distance can make any useful wireless tech a good option.
Over time, copper or optical solutions can be expanded.
The good aspect of wireless is the ability of 'any' new firm to enter the market, rather that have to get/rent hardware at an exchange.
Solar, line of sight and emerging wireless networking math can offer good basic service to many in cities or regional areas.
Over time ping and user count will see the need for a build out of optical.
A defended compound will hold out an invading, foreign, very well funded mercenary army?
The region tried that and then faced the hundreds of locals at your door issue.
How long will your guards last? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehden_massacre
The locals faced a history of slave raids and heavy taxes. Then the French.
As a minority in a region with huge issues and a well funded majority.... best to keep up with military service and win as a country under secularism.
Yes East Germany had a dream of pushing out ~20yo staff from the East into entry West Germany multinational/gov management career paths.
Over a lifetime you would on average have a few middle ranking staff and maybe some inner circle staff.
West German police and federal agencies where fast to note people with perfect pasts, perfect haircuts dropping in to get local documents in a time when West Germany was having internal youth issues.
Most countries just seem to be focused on the US press/academic side, flooding in students hoping some/many will return with skills/insights.
Getting a dual citizen close to US clearances is hard work for all but a few very select nations within the CIA.
Over at the CIA - they know their history and US politics. The political pressure to hire "any" language experts would have been huge.
The political pressure to hire a contractor with skill and then give their staff clearance to get the workloads down with background work done later... would have been ongoing.
Why where contractors allowed to clear new needed contractors? Why did they trust a new or old firm with a lot of new instant staff? Who stopped the long internal US background interviews and allowed security to be more digital? Who wants press about the CIA at this point in time?
Strange we are seeing so much - even the well paid pro war sockpuppets look like fools.
Think of the NSA domestic role in the 1990's and aspects of the converted political Station like positions...
The GCHQ and NSA have moved up in the political world - that was always the CIA meeting, the tech work lost in lesser committees.
KGB/GRU like history via the worlds press?
Yes geogob, it shows everything the US tried to avoid for 40-50 years via cash (good wages), staff education, merit based advancement, good working conditions and compartmentalization.
The US also took an interesting view of crypto - when it fails/staff walk/spy everything was sort of under a form of compartmentalisation.
The US wanted to get on with huge global hardware networking and code the software needed to bring it all together. Later they had the science to store more and more.
Almost all other spy agencies had to work with spies/press/fiction and hope people fell for their PR.
The US never had to worry about that, they could out spend and out compute the world. The UK gave them global reach.
Now the warning from the UK is 'new' again. Never hire staff in a rush and read them into the bigger picture - languages, crypto, networking, death squads - all bring short term gain, long term the errors add up.
Yes its an interesting plot. You have Soviet and Russian computer skills haunting the NSA networks for years - yet no huge US/Russian spy rings are exposed.
Parts of the US press is going with the Russian talking point of a loss to the US and more funding/contractors needed to fix everything.
If your interested in the NZ part read up on the David Lange papers. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10363782
"US would no longer feel any inhibition in conducting intelligence gathering operations against us. [NZ]""
UN diplomatic communications, Argentine naval intelligence, Egypt, Japan, the Philippines, Pacific Island nations, France, Vietnam, the Soviets, North Korea, East Germany, Laotia and South Africa are also listed.
Loss of "Joint military activities" was the public Pentagon side, the NSA/GCSB aspect became public via a box of documents with an annual report from the mid 1980's.
China would have got a lot from the USA/Russia/EU/Canada over the past years wrt basic nuclear design. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_China http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qinshan_Nuclear_Power_Plant seems to be ~95% domestic 1991 after "1970, China issued its first nuclear power plan".
Like the nuclear bomb in China they seem to have done it very smart - wait, watch, learn, build local when ready.
Now they have a global brand vision, banking and sales to back up the nuclear 'export' end.
The only mystery the UK had was its subs and that was via the USA.
As for this project, they have the UK and French to work with, later they can move as a pure export brand.
Re New Zealand did, and I haven't heard of any US-NZ war.
Punishment was swift in the form of no more pure NSA sigint. The other part of that was a hint that the US would become active in intelligence work in NZ as more punishment.
Slashdot Mirror
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caravan_of_Death
So when you have a state, flag and uniforms its all just small potatoes?
Yes more was linked to http://www.bradreese.com/blog/9-3-2013.htm
"every test that Agent Johnson does can affect national security and that people could be put in danger."
They got Stinger, radio networks, help with bunkers, tactics, weapons systems, a clear understanding of Soviet air transport.
The US and UK worked hard with what they had.
It motivates mil/gov spending by the West and keeps many people in great jobs. Freedom fighters can do what a nation state may not want to be seen doing. Win win.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clandestine_cell_system provides some background.
Ireland is really a great place to start in terms of operational cells and how the UK was able to 'buy'/'spy' their way in once a few members where connected.
If the enemy get in deep, internal security structure can be persuaded to hunt their own cells.
Cells were great for sneaker net but with todays cell and net use - its getting more tricky.
Re: Everything is on computer networks that a person wanted to type/search for. Chatrooms may give some insight but people can be trolling/trying/sucking up to become a mod or really just like the topic and hold back from anything too personal.
Images and comments on web 2.0 can be selected or rejected to build a brand or project quality or fun or prove a connection to some short term fad.
The internet allows a person to relax, think and search before committing anything down or to be very creative..
As for older family or even other family of the same age opening up online about the complexities of another family member....
Some are not online, may only use google or web 2.0 for hobbies and networking with community groups/shopping/hobbies/looking for fiction.
That pretty clear picture presented in the digital world can all be a front/joke/friend building/a collaborative fantasy.
As for friends who are not in their neighbourhood anymore - thats why the US gov did work nation wide to find real people. Cities, small country towns, dusty roads.
The insights and huge gaps in a persons past can be slowly worked out.
As for the Russians, once they have a list of people on a project/team of interest to them- they too will look. The bars/club/gym/book shop/cafe/hobby until a real person falls into place.
It will be interesting. Soviet/Warsaw pact equipment updated with data from Serbia/former Yugoslavia/NATO vs US drones and their digital efforts.
Will the drones face: Blowpipe and stay up?
Or Stinger and have some issues?
Can the drones offer the mercenaries/externally funded 'freedom' fighters a total victory on the cheap?
Will the special forces have to call in the older US equipment to allow their 'freedom' fighters to gain total victory?
Thats the Cocaine Import Company :)
As for an ongoing war on a tactic, most nations surviving double tap drone strikes would have their nations best and brightest thinking about their airspace.
You dont think their CIA/SAS handlers in the Soviet/Chechen days passed on a few hints about what a nation state will be seeking/expect and how to play the system?
As for the contractor boondoggle aspect - funding is flowing for drones, the targeting chips and the huge generational upgrades.
Contractors based around the manned systems might be pushing back by bringing "intercepted messages" or "chatter" out to bolster their hold on huge contracts.
1) No criminal history - if your from a good family...the computer says your ok...
2) No heavy debt or credit issues - some seem to be very over extended...
3) No skeletons in the closet to feed blackmail - you would really think that one would be vital...
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/pentagon-declined-investigate-hundreds-purchases-child-pornography.html
4) No drug and only light alcohol use - always good to test for.
5) No relationships with foreign nationals - but you sooooo need that regional dialect, language, cultural insight.
6) US citizen goes without saying, foreign born may disqualify you. - some nations are more equal than others and the US really has risked/lost so much on the dual citizen aspect.
Re few youngsters
They would understand how to sockpuppet, be up with slag, the culture, spelling, music, tech and faith.
They would also have been bought up in a world at war and could be more ideologically hardened with less of that early 1990's base closure/very early dot com days emotional baggage.
Then you have the math and CS elite, nurtured in top US universities - who know the role and wealth their parents enjoyed or are climbing out of poverty.
The dual citizenship question has issues too - too much US only material flows back to the real country of origin.
Twice or more is the real mind game. Watch for the pre interview and they will watch you in the waiting area. What you read (on the net before and on the day), how you act, how you sit. ... more cute questions and offers to 'help', been on your side... if you are truthful NOW .... its all in the "other" questions and the build up over 2-3 tests.
Then the interview, then the questions, finally the hardware is hooked up... after the hardware
The UK looked at the tests the US offered in the 1980's and found them to be total junk. Good staff would be lost/never hired, bad people would get to advance unnoticed.
Yes if the gov did not interview your extended family and friends... teachers, neighbours - your clearance was done (post 911) by a contractor, mostly state/federal searches on a computer, ie if its not networked it was never really uncovered. The US gov has really created huge security mess long term.
People the gov will not really know are moving up in the cleared systems and networks with totally unknown pasts eg the really basic stuff of state sealed youth court issues, school, personality...
What the US missed in its hast, the Russians will find over time.- offering cash or exposure or understanding.
The old non adsl 'donated/charity' exchanges, copper quality and distance can make any useful wireless tech a good option.
Over time, copper or optical solutions can be expanded.
The good aspect of wireless is the ability of 'any' new firm to enter the market, rather that have to get/rent hardware at an exchange.
Solar, line of sight and emerging wireless networking math can offer good basic service to many in cities or regional areas.
Over time ping and user count will see the need for a build out of optical.
Your calls, any data use and offered encryption will be US gov friendly.
Yes German and South African did amazing work. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurodif with Iran was good reading too.
A defended compound will hold out an invading, foreign, very well funded mercenary army?
The region tried that and then faced the hundreds of locals at your door issue.
How long will your guards last? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehden_massacre
The locals faced a history of slave raids and heavy taxes. Then the French.
As a minority in a region with huge issues and a well funded majority.... best to keep up with military service and win as a country under secularism.
Yes East Germany had a dream of pushing out ~20yo staff from the East into entry West Germany multinational/gov management career paths.
Over a lifetime you would on average have a few middle ranking staff and maybe some inner circle staff.
West German police and federal agencies where fast to note people with perfect pasts, perfect haircuts dropping in to get local documents in a time when West Germany was having internal youth issues.
Most countries just seem to be focused on the US press/academic side, flooding in students hoping some/many will return with skills/insights.
Getting a dual citizen close to US clearances is hard work for all but a few very select nations within the CIA.
Over at the CIA - they know their history and US politics. The political pressure to hire "any" language experts would have been huge. ... would have been ongoing.
The political pressure to hire a contractor with skill and then give their staff clearance to get the workloads down with background work done later
Why where contractors allowed to clear new needed contractors? Why did they trust a new or old firm with a lot of new instant staff? Who stopped the long internal US background interviews and allowed security to be more digital? Who wants press about the CIA at this point in time?
Strange we are seeing so much - even the well paid pro war sockpuppets look like fools.
Think of the NSA domestic role in the 1990's and aspects of the converted political Station like positions...
The GCHQ and NSA have moved up in the political world - that was always the CIA meeting, the tech work lost in lesser committees.
KGB/GRU like history via the worlds press?
Yes geogob, it shows everything the US tried to avoid for 40-50 years via cash (good wages), staff education, merit based advancement, good working conditions and compartmentalization.
The US also took an interesting view of crypto - when it fails/staff walk/spy everything was sort of under a form of compartmentalisation.
The US wanted to get on with huge global hardware networking and code the software needed to bring it all together. Later they had the science to store more and more.
Almost all other spy agencies had to work with spies/press/fiction and hope people fell for their PR.
The US never had to worry about that, they could out spend and out compute the world. The UK gave them global reach.
Now the warning from the UK is 'new' again. Never hire staff in a rush and read them into the bigger picture - languages, crypto, networking, death squads - all bring short term gain, long term the errors add up.
Yes its an interesting plot. You have Soviet and Russian computer skills haunting the NSA networks for years - yet no huge US/Russian spy rings are exposed.
Parts of the US press is going with the Russian talking point of a loss to the US and more funding/contractors needed to fix everything.
The term has always been Al-CIA-da :)
If your interested in the NZ part read up on the David Lange papers.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10363782
"US would no longer feel any inhibition in conducting intelligence gathering operations against us. [NZ]""
UN diplomatic communications, Argentine naval intelligence, Egypt, Japan, the Philippines, Pacific Island nations, France, Vietnam, the Soviets, North Korea, East Germany, Laotia and South Africa are also listed.
Loss of "Joint military activities" was the public Pentagon side, the NSA/GCSB aspect became public via a box of documents with an annual report from the mid 1980's.
China would have got a lot from the USA/Russia/EU/Canada over the past years wrt basic nuclear design.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_China
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qinshan_Nuclear_Power_Plant seems to be ~95% domestic 1991 after "1970, China issued its first nuclear power plan".
Like the nuclear bomb in China they seem to have done it very smart - wait, watch, learn, build local when ready.
Now they have a global brand vision, banking and sales to back up the nuclear 'export' end.
The only mystery the UK had was its subs and that was via the USA.
As for this project, they have the UK and French to work with, later they can move as a pure export brand.
Re New Zealand did, and I haven't heard of any US-NZ war.
Punishment was swift in the form of no more pure NSA sigint. The other part of that was a hint that the US would become active in intelligence work in NZ as more punishment.