Re "You combat this by cutting back working hours" People will need to work longer to pay their tax and to still have a wage above the poverty line.
The only way to cover the UBI is to tax anyone still working a lot more.
Re "manipulate the economy" Governments who do that fail.
Re "universal healthcare, universal higher education and vocational training, no homeless, no hunger, robust private market" thats going to need more extra tax collection to cover. Plus that new UBI cost too?
Re "engineering goal". Nobody wants to have their way of life set as a government backed engineering goal.
Once cites fail and become filled with drug use, waste, tents and parked RV a city is not going to have the needed tax rate to do much.
Tax payers have the ability to move to much better cities.
At least try to keep a city safe?
Re "How will our progeny look at the ruins of our security/surveillance state?"
Depends on the results.
Police get to clean up the streets. Stop crime. Find criminals, discover illegal aliens.
No more drug use in the streets. No more waste in the streets. No more parked RV and tents.
The Berlin Wall failed as East Germany did not allow its people to speak and could not offer its people anything they wanted.
The US is still flooded with consumer products, freedom of speech, freedom to shop.
The only negative in the USA is the drug use, crime, waste in the streets on the way to enjoy shopping.
In well managed cities that new security/surveillance could really help gentrify an entire city. Slowly change a city back to a really great living standard.
It really depends on the way a socialist state gets set up in the USA.
East Germany with internal controls making travel halt before any international escape can be considered.
China with a social tracking report that prevents international travel depending on all domestic actions.
The lack of a passport depending on tax and criminal problems.
To go Cuban domestically with Committees for the Defense of the Revolution all over the USA?
The wrong movements could show waiting to join another person, see if fake paper work was good and not about to be questioned further.
The appearance part is a classic attempt to get past some nations later layers of security.
Embassy staff often try that with amusing results on camera.
Appearance changes is another attempt to use altered, fake documents, shared documents.
The person using the documents clean digital past is not who the documents got created for.
The sleeping part would tell if a person claimed to be on a flight for the first time in a long time but was like a well traveled person. Past digital information about travel on the used documents does not match real actions.
Great to see the licence plate part. Chat downs and documents can show a person rents a vehicle but their faith group, cult is waiting.
The penetrating stare is usually a sign of a war zone stressors. Not normal for normal people with normal reasons to travel and no listed war zone past.
Someone went to a combat zone, for a longer time and the digital documents did not show that.
The idea that staff need to be told about the suspicion of actual wrongdoing just shows another US agency could be tasking a parson of interest and does not want to talk about the why.
The other agency has no ability to trust what the TSA was created out of. But needs the domestic surveillance work done.
Very much like the GCHQ and UK mil used the UK police for issues in Ireland. Never talk of method and all secrets stay safe.
Wait until the USA enjoys the quality of production the "show up drunk, do nothing, and get paid" Communist workers do after getting placed in a guaranteed decently-paid job.
No skills. No motivation to learn. No ability to learn.
Show up at 9am. Lunch. Wait around until 5 pm.
So the Communist idea of the government offering education and a pathway to career success? Then some sort of guidance into the correct and needed job for decades somewhere in the USA?
Grow up in NY and the "government" gives you one approved job in Florida? The pay will be good but the location is set by the government.
Live in CA and the "government" demands skilled workers for a project in New Hampshire?
Thats what a guarantee job will be like. Say no too many times when the government asks and the "decently-paid" part stops.
The next government job is an offer to work for food and rent.
A company would then be flooded with average and mediocre staff as the government says the company has to hire and support a set number of approved "workers"
Tax problems if they don't take in a set number of people who need "work".
Who would want to start a company in the USA needing the very best workers and get told by a gov to take in a number of random people with no ability to work?
Whats the other idea?
Tax everyone working to give an extra payment to everyone who can work and is working?
Want to give a payment to people not working?
Try a means text for citizens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Create a list of all citizens not working. Given them a set payment until they find work again and pay taxes again.
Working citizens get to enjoy their full wage.
Citizens not working get a support payment until they find work again.
AC thats why a new cashless banking system would help catch up with so many illegal migrants.
Illegal migrants would have to create another type of ID to get a new bank account.
Get entered into the tax system and be approved by for a new account by a bank.
Given thats its a new account the US gov could make that reporting much more stringent federally.
Make the cashless bank understand every new US account they open has to be legal and fully compliant.
Just "living" in the USA would have to be supported by more levels of new documents to show citizenship, approval to work, study in the USA.
More ways to get discovered as an illegal migrant.
Re 'overestimate the quality of CCTV cameras of the sort typically installed in"
Consider what was done with Domain Awareness System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... in the USA AC.
AC re "denied a vote". People all over the UK could vote in free and fair election over the question of the EU and the EU controlling the UK.
AC re "consequences of leaving" Not stating in the UK was the result people voted for.
AC "not democracy" Getting to vote on an issue is a "democracy" AC.
AC re "'the real economy will have to go unofficia".
The problem with that for an illegal migrant AC is the cost of having to pay extra for a new bank account, new photo ID that works.
The cost of staying illegal soon becomes more than their illegal wage can cover.
The USA has freedom of speech and freedom after speech with lots of nice consumer goods. East Germany could not offer its people any freedoms and the needed consumer goods and food never got to its people.
So going cashless wouldn't induce any real changes in the USA for US citizens and people in the USA legally for work and study.
Mass surveillance would ensure tax is collected on all transactions.
That would need a way for a gov to inspect and count the many dams and pumps work to allow the movement of water.
With gov inspectors out all over the state understanding the amount of water used.
Tamper proof ways of counting water use.
The UK did great pumped hydro too. Its a very old idea. It just takes a better dam design and more ability to do advanced dam design.
The other option is a dam upgrade.
Its called democracy. "People all over the UK voted to remain too" did not win the needed vote.
How can an open and free vote be "deceiving" AC? People all over the UK went to vote and the vote result was to not stay in the EU.
Re "voting opposite to your constituents' wishes"
The democratic vote count as a result was to "exit" the EU AC.
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Re "You combat this by cutting back working hours" People will need to work longer to pay their tax and to still have a wage above the poverty line.
The only way to cover the UBI is to tax anyone still working a lot more.
Re "manipulate the economy" Governments who do that fail.
Re "universal healthcare, universal higher education and vocational training, no homeless, no hunger, robust private market" thats going to need more extra tax collection to cover. Plus that new UBI cost too?
Re "engineering goal". Nobody wants to have their way of life set as a government backed engineering goal.
UK citizens got to vote AC. Their vote was counted.
Once cites fail and become filled with drug use, waste, tents and parked RV a city is not going to have the needed tax rate to do much.
Tax payers have the ability to move to much better cities.
At least try to keep a city safe?
Can the NRO hand craft the needed observation systems at that rapid rate from bespoke 100% made in the USA parts?
Re "How will our progeny look at the ruins of our security/surveillance state?"
Depends on the results.
Police get to clean up the streets. Stop crime. Find criminals, discover illegal aliens.
No more drug use in the streets. No more waste in the streets. No more parked RV and tents.
The Berlin Wall failed as East Germany did not allow its people to speak and could not offer its people anything they wanted.
The US is still flooded with consumer products, freedom of speech, freedom to shop.
The only negative in the USA is the drug use, crime, waste in the streets on the way to enjoy shopping.
In well managed cities that new security/surveillance could really help gentrify an entire city. Slowly change a city back to a really great living standard.
Why the rush to rapid, responsive?
Do entire networks of existing satellites all need replacing in the same year?
32 Gb of RAM.
Could be a few AV companies that found NSA efforts and big telco brands.
The US does not want to list the holding companies it knows about.
People start seeing the same faces on the same flights with the military hair cut look.
It really depends on the way a socialist state gets set up in the USA.
East Germany with internal controls making travel halt before any international escape can be considered.
China with a social tracking report that prevents international travel depending on all domestic actions.
The lack of a passport depending on tax and criminal problems.
To go Cuban domestically with Committees for the Defense of the Revolution all over the USA?
The US mil is getting them well before the USA part.
The wrong movements could show waiting to join another person, see if fake paper work was good and not about to be questioned further.
The appearance part is a classic attempt to get past some nations later layers of security.
Embassy staff often try that with amusing results on camera.
Appearance changes is another attempt to use altered, fake documents, shared documents.
The person using the documents clean digital past is not who the documents got created for.
The sleeping part would tell if a person claimed to be on a flight for the first time in a long time but was like a well traveled person. Past digital information about travel on the used documents does not match real actions.
Great to see the licence plate part. Chat downs and documents can show a person rents a vehicle but their faith group, cult is waiting.
The penetrating stare is usually a sign of a war zone stressors. Not normal for normal people with normal reasons to travel and no listed war zone past.
Someone went to a combat zone, for a longer time and the digital documents did not show that.
The idea that staff need to be told about the suspicion of actual wrongdoing just shows another US agency could be tasking a parson of interest and does not want to talk about the why.
The other agency has no ability to trust what the TSA was created out of. But needs the domestic surveillance work done.
Very much like the GCHQ and UK mil used the UK police for issues in Ireland. Never talk of method and all secrets stay safe.
Wait until the USA enjoys the quality of production the "show up drunk, do nothing, and get paid" Communist workers do after getting placed in a guaranteed decently-paid job.
No skills. No motivation to learn. No ability to learn.
Show up at 9am. Lunch. Wait around until 5 pm.
So the Communist idea of the government offering education and a pathway to career success? Then some sort of guidance into the correct and needed job for decades somewhere in the USA?
Grow up in NY and the "government" gives you one approved job in Florida? The pay will be good but the location is set by the government.
Live in CA and the "government" demands skilled workers for a project in New Hampshire?
Thats what a guarantee job will be like. Say no too many times when the government asks and the "decently-paid" part stops.
The next government job is an offer to work for food and rent.
A company would then be flooded with average and mediocre staff as the government says the company has to hire and support a set number of approved "workers"
Tax problems if they don't take in a set number of people who need "work".
Who would want to start a company in the USA needing the very best workers and get told by a gov to take in a number of random people with no ability to work?
Whats the other idea?
Tax everyone working to give an extra payment to everyone who can work and is working?
Want to give a payment to people not working?
Try a means text for citizens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Create a list of all citizens not working. Given them a set payment until they find work again and pay taxes again.
Working citizens get to enjoy their full wage.
Citizens not working get a support payment until they find work again.
AC thats why a new cashless banking system would help catch up with so many illegal migrants.
Illegal migrants would have to create another type of ID to get a new bank account.
Get entered into the tax system and be approved by for a new account by a bank.
Given thats its a new account the US gov could make that reporting much more stringent federally.
Make the cashless bank understand every new US account they open has to be legal and fully compliant.
Just "living" in the USA would have to be supported by more levels of new documents to show citizenship, approval to work, study in the USA.
More ways to get discovered as an illegal migrant.
Re 'overestimate the quality of CCTV cameras of the sort typically installed in"
Consider what was done with Domain Awareness System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... in the USA AC.
Goanna https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
AC re "denied a vote". People all over the UK could vote in free and fair election over the question of the EU and the EU controlling the UK.
AC re "consequences of leaving" Not stating in the UK was the result people voted for.
AC "not democracy" Getting to vote on an issue is a "democracy" AC.
AC re "'the real economy will have to go unofficia".
The problem with that for an illegal migrant AC is the cost of having to pay extra for a new bank account, new photo ID that works.
The cost of staying illegal soon becomes more than their illegal wage can cover.
The USA has freedom of speech and freedom after speech with lots of nice consumer goods. East Germany could not offer its people any freedoms and the needed consumer goods and food never got to its people.
So going cashless wouldn't induce any real changes in the USA for US citizens and people in the USA legally for work and study.
Mass surveillance would ensure tax is collected on all transactions.
That would need a way for a gov to inspect and count the many dams and pumps work to allow the movement of water.
With gov inspectors out all over the state understanding the amount of water used.
Tamper proof ways of counting water use.
Not when a gov makes "green" energy have extra value. That can be sold and paid for at a better "green" price.
Pumped hydro is not a new cool thing. eg Pumped-storage hydroelectricity 1930's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The UK did great pumped hydro too. Its a very old idea. It just takes a better dam design and more ability to do advanced dam design.
The other option is a dam upgrade.
Its called democracy. "People all over the UK voted to remain too" did not win the needed vote.
How can an open and free vote be "deceiving" AC? People all over the UK went to vote and the vote result was to not stay in the EU.
Re "voting opposite to your constituents' wishes"
The democratic vote count as a result was to "exit" the EU AC.