Re "what was the real motive in trying it again?"
Drugs and the payments to ensure the drugs could move. The criminal pathways between Canada and up past CA.
That needed local and federal police not to investigate. A lot of federal informants and investigations had to be paid or stopped.
Good people in the FBI tried to study the problem, track the cash and flow of people drugs. The spread of Communism and its funding links to the drug trade.
The very way the USA worked changed with the money drugs used into parts of the USA.
A lot of criminal people got out into the community under health care reforms.
France can go fully environmental.
French wine is enjoyed at perfect temperature.
With the correct use of online memes wine users will be returning to French and EU quality and food standards.
The phone and any devices in a dwelling will be used to collect it all.
The level of encryption US brands had the staff to work on is not of good quality.
So the FBI can get into it all as it always did.
The legal side is the real question for the FBI.
Collect it all and then never tell lawyers, press, other police, experts?
That fully protects FBI crypto methods from human rights lawyers, political activist media, cults, faith groups, police who give information to criminals, gov/mil staff with a split loyalty to the USA.
The down side is the risk then needed to create another way to start an investigation. To get a plea bargain, create an informant.
The other way is to go full NSA and DEA. Let the USA know everyone is getting collected on domestically and with public/private partnerships.
Two very different methods that have the US gov totally in all communications.
One will see a person confronted with their cell phone use.
Another method will see full parallel construction, the use of informants to hide the collect it all US crypto ability.
A huge internal struggle in the FBI. To collect and collect on every hop of communications for years and always win.
To get human rights lawyers looking over sensitive US domestic collection methods, collection results and ensuring such methods are talked about.
Does the FBI want to be as skilled as the GCHQ was at keeping methods hidden for decades? Total winning but nobody will ever know.
Have key evidence and active criminal investigation methods sold and given away by lawyers, cult members, criminals, police working with criminals?
To have US ISP and big brand staff know how the FBI breaks crypto and sell such methods to criminals, other nations?
To have police and city workers under watch by any criminal groups, cults able to buy the same crypto collection methods?
Once junk US crypto is broken for police, everyone interesting can afford a key.
Re "before smartphones came along? "
Depends on the crime. The city and state police had a really good crime solution rate until the 1960's.
Then the USA was flooded with crime. Drugs, cash and other factors changed many parts of US culture.
The FBI did try to help communities.
Have a bank robbery problem? Talk to all bank staff and get them to notice strangers. Have a system ready to get more evidence when a bank was getting looked over and then later what to during and after getting robbed.
The study of repeat criminals wondering around the USA.
The study of the spread of Communist groups all over the USA and their supporters. The creation of a lot of informants that took effort and time.
Smartphones allow a few agents to use a GUI to map out hops of connections all over the USA.
PRISM and US designed junk consumer crypto gave the files, voice prints, movements. Real time voice on a live mic.
It works. The design can be sold, imported and used. The skilled people at a factory can read and understand the list of materials needed.
Generations of skilled workers with decades of "working" with the needed materials can understand the design and work flow.
The steps for any advanced industrial nation is not a generation of skills beyond their industrial education.
Once a nation gets dependant on another nation for its science, that other nation can say no more.
China found that out with its early nuclear design work with the Soviet Union. China had to work around when the Soviet Union stopped its support.
The UK found that with its early space work and its Skynet project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.... The UK was forced to buy into an all US rocket system.
Trying to import new tech from a nation that then says no is not a good policy with the cost of space projects.
The Dmitrii Donskoi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... was old when facing new ships Japan was able to buy.
Re "abandoning ship" was not as simple as it sounds. Russia sent all its fleet. Nobody wanted to suggest just sending quality. The Russian navy had to do what it was told and had to send more old and slow ships.
New ships could do 18 knots others 15 knots.
A real mixture of Russian ships then confronted an advanced and ready Japan.
The Dmitrii Donskoi had to support other crews and try and escape. Then try and save its own crew.
Re 'What I don't see is why Russia would let others keep half?"
To not be Spain. Better to get something on good terms than go full Spain in a court over a transfer of the treasure.
Any salvage company, other nations will then be happy to work with Russian on any new project in the future.
Should Russian need something around the other side of the world in the future a skilled salvage company will remember events like this.
A salvage company will contrast that with what Spain can do.
It was not just coal from any port along the way. Coal was not getting provided to Russian in any way, for any reason at all the easy to use ports.
That left the few nations able to support the Russian fleet with a way to "set" the price.
Russian could not wait and look for a better price. Russian needed a lot of coal. Russia had to pay.
That would make a PRISM hard. PRISM was not hard and no police are now calling for the ban on the use of an entire brand of devices.
Security forces are happy. Police are happy. The beard is selling without questions by governments.
Also consider how many governments around the world do that "subject to subpoena." part.
To be allowed in the brand has to assure that nations security services that the product is subpoena supporting.
This is the reason why the USA wins and why it has DARPA.
When politics gets in the way of what the USA needs to win, the USA now has DARPA.
Make its own.
Find brands that have skills and the best workers to make what is needed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The reason why so much coal was needed, the reason why the distances got longer.
"with difficulty obtaining coal for refuelling – as the warships could not legally enter the ports of neutral nations"
"The Russians needed 500,000 short tons (450,000 t) of coal and 30 to 40 re-coaling sessions to reach Cam Ranh Bay."
Russia did not have an empire on the way around the world to get "free" supplies from its own ports. Russia would have to pay and buy what was needed going the long way around to get to Japan. For a lot of ships.
The "battle" was far, far away from Russian and the location of the Russian fleet. The many ships Russian sent to would need to buy what they needed on the way.
The "war" did not work out the way Russian planed for and it had many reasons to "scuttle".
Russia has to pay in full for its all its energy use to get from Russia to Japan. A lot of nations on the way would not sell the needed supplies. Russia had to think about having an accepted method to pay along the way.
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Re "what was the real motive in trying it again?"
Drugs and the payments to ensure the drugs could move. The criminal pathways between Canada and up past CA.
That needed local and federal police not to investigate. A lot of federal informants and investigations had to be paid or stopped.
Good people in the FBI tried to study the problem, track the cash and flow of people drugs. The spread of Communism and its funding links to the drug trade.
The very way the USA worked changed with the money drugs used into parts of the USA.
A lot of criminal people got out into the community under health care reforms.
France can go fully environmental.
French wine is enjoyed at perfect temperature.
With the correct use of online memes wine users will be returning to French and EU quality and food standards.
The phone and any devices in a dwelling will be used to collect it all.
The level of encryption US brands had the staff to work on is not of good quality.
So the FBI can get into it all as it always did.
The legal side is the real question for the FBI.
Collect it all and then never tell lawyers, press, other police, experts?
That fully protects FBI crypto methods from human rights lawyers, political activist media, cults, faith groups, police who give information to criminals, gov/mil staff with a split loyalty to the USA.
The down side is the risk then needed to create another way to start an investigation. To get a plea bargain, create an informant.
The other way is to go full NSA and DEA. Let the USA know everyone is getting collected on domestically and with public/private partnerships.
Two very different methods that have the US gov totally in all communications.
One will see a person confronted with their cell phone use.
Another method will see full parallel construction, the use of informants to hide the collect it all US crypto ability.
A huge internal struggle in the FBI. To collect and collect on every hop of communications for years and always win.
To get human rights lawyers looking over sensitive US domestic collection methods, collection results and ensuring such methods are talked about.
Does the FBI want to be as skilled as the GCHQ was at keeping methods hidden for decades? Total winning but nobody will ever know.
Have key evidence and active criminal investigation methods sold and given away by lawyers, cult members, criminals, police working with criminals?
To have US ISP and big brand staff know how the FBI breaks crypto and sell such methods to criminals, other nations?
To have police and city workers under watch by any criminal groups, cults able to buy the same crypto collection methods?
Once junk US crypto is broken for police, everyone interesting can afford a key.
Re "before smartphones came along? "
Depends on the crime. The city and state police had a really good crime solution rate until the 1960's.
Then the USA was flooded with crime. Drugs, cash and other factors changed many parts of US culture.
The FBI did try to help communities.
Have a bank robbery problem? Talk to all bank staff and get them to notice strangers. Have a system ready to get more evidence when a bank was getting looked over and then later what to during and after getting robbed.
The study of repeat criminals wondering around the USA.
The study of the spread of Communist groups all over the USA and their supporters. The creation of a lot of informants that took effort and time.
Smartphones allow a few agents to use a GUI to map out hops of connections all over the USA.
PRISM and US designed junk consumer crypto gave the files, voice prints, movements. Real time voice on a live mic.
They will be stopped due to limits like the Missile Technology Control Regime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
It works. The design can be sold, imported and used. The skilled people at a factory can read and understand the list of materials needed.
Generations of skilled workers with decades of "working" with the needed materials can understand the design and work flow.
The steps for any advanced industrial nation is not a generation of skills beyond their industrial education.
Once a nation gets dependant on another nation for its science, that other nation can say no more.
China found that out with its early nuclear design work with the Soviet Union. China had to work around when the Soviet Union stopped its support.
The UK found that with its early space work and its Skynet project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.... The UK was forced to buy into an all US rocket system.
Trying to import new tech from a nation that then says no is not a good policy with the cost of space projects.
The Dmitrii Donskoi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... was old when facing new ships Japan was able to buy.
Re "abandoning ship" was not as simple as it sounds. Russia sent all its fleet. Nobody wanted to suggest just sending quality. The Russian navy had to do what it was told and had to send more old and slow ships.
New ships could do 18 knots others 15 knots.
A real mixture of Russian ships then confronted an advanced and ready Japan.
The Dmitrii Donskoi had to support other crews and try and escape. Then try and save its own crew.
Re 'What I don't see is why Russia would let others keep half?"
To not be Spain. Better to get something on good terms than go full Spain in a court over a transfer of the treasure.
Any salvage company, other nations will then be happy to work with Russian on any new project in the future.
Should Russian need something around the other side of the world in the future a skilled salvage company will remember events like this.
A salvage company will contrast that with what Spain can do.
With the billions taken by EU courts French artisans can hand craft each CRT.
It was not just coal from any port along the way. Coal was not getting provided to Russian in any way, for any reason at all the easy to use ports.
That left the few nations able to support the Russian fleet with a way to "set" the price.
Russian could not wait and look for a better price. Russian needed a lot of coal. Russia had to pay.
That would make a PRISM hard. PRISM was not hard and no police are now calling for the ban on the use of an entire brand of devices.
Security forces are happy. Police are happy. The beard is selling without questions by governments.
Also consider how many governments around the world do that "subject to subpoena." part.
To be allowed in the brand has to assure that nations security services that the product is subpoena supporting.
This is the reason why the USA wins and why it has DARPA.
When politics gets in the way of what the USA needs to win, the USA now has DARPA.
Make its own.
Find brands that have skills and the best workers to make what is needed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The reason why so much coal was needed, the reason why the distances got longer.
"with difficulty obtaining coal for refuelling – as the warships could not legally enter the ports of neutral nations"
"The Russians needed 500,000 short tons (450,000 t) of coal and 30 to 40 re-coaling sessions to reach Cam Ranh Bay."
A Communist revolution made that difficult. Consider the history of the Amber Room https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Russia did not have an empire on the way around the world to get "free" supplies from its own ports. Russia would have to pay and buy what was needed going the long way around to get to Japan. For a lot of ships.
The "battle" was far, far away from Russian and the location of the Russian fleet. The many ships Russian sent to would need to buy what they needed on the way.
The "war" did not work out the way Russian planed for and it had many reasons to "scuttle".
Russia has to pay in full for its all its energy use to get from Russia to Japan. A lot of nations on the way would not sell the needed supplies. Russia had to think about having an accepted method to pay along the way.
Different US states have tax rates that are not great.
A colorful GUI with ads over IRC, usenet, yahoo messenger like networks. All the great services existed before social media.
has to get its ads working for its customers.
All that PRISM too with its other customers.
you need a freezer and an external gpu?
Benchmarks now need a temperature setting.
France uses the winning to restart its Thomson TO 2019 production line. AZERTY keyboard with a new light pen.
The EU asks its members to send their spies to the USA and fully enforce EU law?
in the court room.
Are we going to need another step?
A call on a POTS? Use the mail and a mailbox to secure another way of communications?