Gamasutra is claiming to the spider that they have this information freely available right on the URL. This is what gives them a high relevancy. If they do not have this information without registration, they made false claims. SO Google recommends this site due to these false claims, the users clicks on it and he does not get the info, although Google told him that it is right after that link. They should be delisted.
If the registration is free or not does not matter. Others doing fraud does not make your own fraud better in any way.
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What is your point? Google also delists paying Adwords cosutomers, when they spam the engine.
Google does not manage to offer reasonable email support for their own stuff (tried several times for some of their offerings), so I would not hang my expectation on that too high.
> under the laws of the jurisdiction where the German language encyclopedia is hosted.
It does not matter where wikipedia.de gets its data from. Making the full names of the parents public may be lagal in the US, it is still illegal for the german entity wikipedia.de to make them available. So the article can be made, but the full names may not be accessible through wikipedia.de. So just Tron's case repeated.
The court does not impose anything on wikipedia.org. It is just the way wikipedia.de operates internally (which is of no relevance to the court) that editing the page accessible through wikipedia.de would also affect wikipedia.org. It is for wikipedia.de to adjust its operations so that their compliance with law dows not affect wikipedia.org.
>> People are allowed to sodomize your body or smash your grave? Or use your name and face an some animal p0rn? Your rights do not end when >> you are dead.
> Of course my rights end when I'm dead. Protecting my corpse and my image is for the benefit of my survivors, not me.
The legal reason is, that your survivors act on behalf of you. That you would not have wanted the above when you were alive, so they protect your rights when you can not longer. Just sign the paper, and your body will probably get all of the above in no time.
Being reported by the press is not enough in itself to make you a public figure. The press does not have the right to reveal your identity in the first place, and they do not gain the right simply by continuing to report on him.
It does not matter that a publication in some other jurisdiction did reveal his name, it does not matter how many subscribers Wired has in Germany.
It was up to wikipedia.de to provide a way his name is not revealed when accessing wikipedia through wikipedia.de. They choose to do it the way they did. Technically, it would be possible to do this in a way that does not affect the view from outside germany, but this would have required changes in the way wikipedia.de operates.
It is also not of the courts business how wikipedia.de operates internally, where it gets its content from. That is entirely their own problem.
> There is no privacy right here
Bullshit. There is. By law. If Tron would be still alive, it would be his rights. Now, his parents act on his behalf. I realise that your life is not considered private in the US (thous al the "my telco sells my phone data" stuff that is not possible in germany). Here, there is a balance between private and public interest. And by default, it is on private.
> while excusing any infringement of personal liberty done within germany as long as its done for politically correct reasons
You mean like PATRIOT, secret searches, secret courts, the CIA spying on its own citicens et al? No, we don't have that. Not that the german system is perfect, mind you.
And we have a high pressure from the RIAA/MPAA equivalents to hollow our world-leading data protection laws. and it f* looks like the government will bend over:-(
> If I offended some people by bringing up nuremburg
Well, for one, is has relevance, and for two, it devalues the Nazi crimes by bringing them down to the level of this legal dispute.
So if you are dead, People are allowed to sodomize your body or smash your grave? Or use your name and face an some animal p0rn? Your rights do not end when you are dead.
> Hope they like their own Wikipedia entry, since the press coverage for this causes them to pass the threshold for qualifying for one.
Only if their last name is abreviated. Press coverage alone does not make a person a public figure.
> He also was a convicted of a crime so his name was a matter of public record in germany.
The thing is this: The people's right on privacy is highly protected. This includes their identity. Media is not allowed to disclose the identity of some random guy without his consent. This includes anyone in a trial and also convicted people. The only exception are public figures. And a person will not become a public figure because the media says so or report on him. It does not matter that his name is in the court files.
You will not find any newspaper article about Tron's trail that does not refer to him as Boris F. You will not find his full name in the media.
Now, wikipedia has his full name in the article. They were asked to change this by Tron's parents. They declined, partly by stating that Tron is a public figure, so they are allowed to do this. Obviously the parents disagree.
They ask a judge for a preliminary injunction until this matter is decided upon in court. He grants it as he values the negativ impact off revealing Tron's identity higher as wikipedia's interest in giving the full name.
The injunction orders wikipedia.de to not show the name. The german wikipedia chapter decides to turn of the redirection from wikipedia.de to wikipedia.org. They could have edited the article in question, but did not.
If in the US people's right on privacy is valued less, then be it. I rather like the german version.
The injuction is against wikipedia.de, not any US entity. So spare us your cant.
You mean like a Mac Mini? I took mine with me to my parents over christmas and used the mouse, keyboard and monitor from their windows box. That's insanely great (to paraphrase a certain someone). So small, so light. Never could have done this with my old big tower.
In browser.ini, you can configure a even more stealthy browser spoofing for some web sites. I don't know, if the uber-modes will still expose window.opera, but for the usual modes, there is no problem.
Opera does not have a JS debugger. It has a quite useful JS console, but a debugger is something like Venkman for Firefox or MS Script Editor for IE. As for the other stuff: good news. For RTE to be any good, Opera would also have to support JS manipulation of selections. I hope they do that full fledged and not pull a fast one again like no initial POST support for XMLHttpRequest.
My experience with Opera's bug tracking system are rather frustrating. I can not check if some bug is already known ( describing a bug and creating a test case is time consuming). Also, I reported some things and never ever got any feedback besides an automatic email. I do not know if Opera considers it a bug, if it is not a bug but an error on my side, if someone works on it, if it was fixed, simply nothing comes back. The Opera BTS is a black hole, and since some time now, I do not feel like making the effort to report bugs.
Do you plan to open up the BTS or at least allow the submitter to view the ticket? Or enhance the feedback?
2. Developer Tools
How about a DOM Inspector (and a Javascript Debugger)? Firefox's DOM Inspector and XMLHttpRequest Monitor are dearly missing in Opera.
3. HTML/CSS/JS
Any word on opacity support? On a Richtext Editing component?
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Chances are that he does not know one decides on the music, but thought your selection is the "fixed" collection of songs on an ipod.
This is the problem the principal agent theory is into. There is no full solution.
Gamasutra is claiming to the spider that they have this information freely available right on the URL. This is what gives them a high relevancy. If they do not have this information without registration, they made false claims. SO Google recommends this site due to these false claims, the users clicks on it and he does not get the info, although Google told him that it is right after that link. They should be delisted.
If the registration is free or not does not matter. Others doing fraud does not make your own fraud better in any way.
What is your point? Google also delists paying Adwords cosutomers, when they spam the engine.
Google does not manage to offer reasonable email support for their own stuff (tried several times for some of their offerings), so I would not hang my expectation on that too high.
> under the laws of the jurisdiction where the German language encyclopedia is hosted.
It does not matter where wikipedia.de gets its data from. Making the full names of the parents public may be lagal in the US, it is still illegal for the german entity wikipedia.de to make them available. So the article can be made, but the full names may not be accessible through wikipedia.de. So just Tron's case repeated.
The court does not impose anything on wikipedia.org. It is just the way wikipedia.de operates internally (which is of no relevance to the court) that editing the page accessible through wikipedia.de would also affect wikipedia.org. It is for wikipedia.de to adjust its operations so that their compliance with law dows not affect wikipedia.org.
>> People are allowed to sodomize your body or smash your grave? Or use your name and face an some animal p0rn? Your rights do not end when >> you are dead.
> Of course my rights end when I'm dead. Protecting my corpse and my image is for the benefit of my survivors, not me.
The legal reason is, that your survivors act on behalf of you. That you would not have wanted the above when you were alive, so they protect your rights when you can not longer.
Just sign the paper, and your body will probably get all of the above in no time.
Being reported by the press is not enough in itself to make you a public figure. The press does not have the right to reveal your identity in the first place, and they do not gain the right simply by continuing to report on him.
:-(
It does not matter that a publication in some other jurisdiction did reveal his name, it does not matter how many subscribers Wired has in Germany.
It was up to wikipedia.de to provide a way his name is not revealed when accessing wikipedia through wikipedia.de. They choose to do it the way they did. Technically, it would be possible to do this in a way that does not affect the view from outside germany, but this would have required changes in the way wikipedia.de operates.
It is also not of the courts business how wikipedia.de operates internally, where it gets its content from. That is entirely their own problem.
> There is no privacy right here
Bullshit. There is. By law. If Tron would be still alive, it would be his rights. Now, his parents act on his behalf.
I realise that your life is not considered private in the US (thous al the "my telco sells my phone data" stuff that is not possible in germany). Here, there is a balance between private and public interest. And by default, it is on private.
> while excusing any infringement of personal liberty done within germany as long as its done for politically correct reasons
You mean like PATRIOT, secret searches, secret courts, the CIA spying on its own citicens et al? No, we don't have that. Not that the german system is perfect, mind you.
And we have a high pressure from the RIAA/MPAA equivalents to hollow our world-leading data protection laws. and it f* looks like the government will bend over
> If I offended some people by bringing up nuremburg
Well, for one, is has relevance, and for two, it devalues the Nazi crimes by bringing them down to the level of this legal dispute.
So if you are dead, People are allowed to sodomize your body or smash your grave? Or use your name and face an some animal p0rn? Your rights do not end when you are dead.
> Hope they like their own Wikipedia entry, since the press coverage for this causes them to pass the threshold for qualifying for one.
Only if their last name is abreviated. Press coverage alone does not make a person a public figure.
> He also was a convicted of a crime so his name was a matter of public record in germany.
The thing is this: The people's right on privacy is highly protected. This includes their identity. Media is not allowed to disclose the identity of some random guy without his consent. This includes anyone in a trial and also convicted people. The only exception are public figures. And a person will not become a public figure because the media says so or report on him. It does not matter that his name is in the court files.
You will not find any newspaper article about Tron's trail that does not refer to him as Boris F. You will not find his full name in the media.
Now, wikipedia has his full name in the article. They were asked to change this by Tron's parents. They declined, partly by stating that Tron is a public figure, so they are allowed to do this. Obviously the parents disagree.
They ask a judge for a preliminary injunction until this matter is decided upon in court. He grants it as he values the negativ impact off revealing Tron's identity higher as wikipedia's interest in giving the full name.
The injunction orders wikipedia.de to not show the name. The german wikipedia chapter decides to turn of the redirection from wikipedia.de to wikipedia.org. They could have edited the article in question, but did not.
If in the US people's right on privacy is valued less, then be it. I rather like the german version.
The injuction is against wikipedia.de, not any US entity. So spare us your cant.
> What apple needs to realize that what they have is a platform
Oh yes, they do have one. It is a tightly intergrated software + hardware package. This is the Apple platform.
You mean like a Mac Mini? I took mine with me to my parents over christmas and used the mouse, keyboard and monitor from their windows box. That's insanely great (to paraphrase a certain someone). So small, so light. Never could have done this with my old big tower.
> Maybe now people will realize that rumor sites make everything up.
Yeah. But I heard there is a new site up that is supposed to be better than the rest. Even with a podcast. "Super Secret Apple Rumours" or such some.
> I suspect that it IS flash detection routines, however.
Yes, I have this just now. Turning off plugins: double HTML-banners. Turning on plugins: one HTML-banner.
So basically, the JS code the advertisers use is borked up.
It refers to http://blog.monstuff.com/archives/000252.html
Not perfect, but it is of great help.
http://blog.monstuff.com/archives/000252.html
There is: the window.opera object.
In browser.ini, you can configure a even more stealthy browser spoofing for some web sites. I don't know, if the uber-modes will still expose window.opera, but for the usual modes, there is no problem.
Opera does not have a JS debugger. It has a quite useful JS console, but a debugger is something like Venkman for Firefox or MS Script Editor for IE.
As for the other stuff: good news. For RTE to be any good, Opera would also have to support JS manipulation of selections. I hope they do that full fledged and not pull a fast one again like no initial POST support for XMLHttpRequest.
1. Opera Bug Tracking System
My experience with Opera's bug tracking system are rather frustrating. I can not check if some bug is already known ( describing a bug and creating a test case is time consuming). Also, I reported some things and never ever got any feedback besides an automatic email. I do not know if Opera considers it a bug, if it is not a bug but an error on my side, if someone works on it, if it was fixed, simply nothing comes back. The Opera BTS is a black hole, and since some time now, I do not feel like making the effort to report bugs.
Do you plan to open up the BTS or at least allow the submitter to view the ticket? Or enhance the feedback?
2. Developer Tools
How about a DOM Inspector (and a Javascript Debugger)? Firefox's DOM Inspector and XMLHttpRequest Monitor are dearly missing in Opera.
3. HTML/CSS/JS
Any word on opacity support? On a Richtext Editing component?
Now this is something new to the US...