WOW all the way down at 31... so far down there!
First I agree that they often come accross as "entitled self-absorbed people"; that said.
Hmmm so it's at 31 of ~967,247,000 currently tracked sites by http://www.internetlivestats.c...
Lets see... 31/967247000... wow that comes back as 3.20497246308337e-8 . So yeah I'm pretty sure they are in the 1% of the 0.00003204 percent. Seems like front page to me.
BTW I only care that you are using smoke and mirrors with number to make your point valid. I could care less where reddit ranks or what dumb thing they say about themselves.
You seem to confusing hindsight and foresight. Everyone knew what Elop and Microsoft were doing from the very beginning. This is definitely not a case of everyone figuring it out after the fall.
So, since it was so obvious. What should Nokia done? Stick with their internal OSes that weren't competitive? Move to Android and be a me too? Started from scratch, again?
Everyone seems to want to pretend Nokia was in a good place and THEN Elop came along. His memo was stupid (in that he should have known it would get out and would have horrible side effects). But it wasn't wrong. They were in a bad place and the projected trend numbers seemed likely at the time. So what did they do so wrong at the time?
Or are you just saying because Elop is Elop it followed that it must have been M$' plan to take over Nokia, just cause. And that's the part I'm missing?
Life is wonderful with hindsight. But look around. This market had an incredible shift happen to it in an amazingly short amount of time. Maybe Elop caused the cratering of Nokia. But then again, even companies that were, without a doubt, trying to survive cratered in the same time (Blackberry for instance).
Before anyone bothers to carefully craft a response to the poster above, have a look at his comment history: this is one of the clearest examples of a Microsoft shill that I've ever seen on Slashdot.
If you were honest you would have put:
"Before anyone bothers to engage in a reasoned debate *I* shall step in with an ad hominem attack and show how my thoughts are superior over this loser. You know because I don't actually have the ability to debate them. "
Sad!
1. Old ladies and kids in school give a shit about gossip. No one else.
But if they point a camera at me in public I'm going to lose it? Wow...
2. Even today, walk up to anyone in public, point a camera right at them, and see what happens.
Even today walk right up into someones face and see what happens. See? It's a bogus analogy.
Whether you like it or not, you ~cannot~ blatantly film someone against their will, whether they are in public or not. If there are laws that say you can, then those laws ~will~ change..if only to protect people like you from themselves.
Over one hundred years of it happening (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozXvAIOtifE). Your right, someday people are going to make laws to *protect* themselves from being ignorant of the english language (see the word PUBLIC). Oh wait, that must mean... I guess you ~CAN~ "blatantly film someone" in.... wait for it... *public*.
Do you seriously ever envision a scenario wherein a cop stands there and tells people they have to let you film them whether they like it or not? If anything, you would be arrested for creating a disturbance.
Do you seriously ever envision a scenario wherein a cop stands there and tells people they have to let you walk down the street whether they like it or not? Most people can.... know why? 'Cause your in *PUBLIC*
Have you ever noticed how on many newscasts, peoples faces in the background are blurred? Have you ever wondered why?
Yes, have you? Check out private use vs for profit use.
And surveillance cameras are typically far away from the subjects and also not recording audio.
So your just quibling over the extent of the recording? If so then I propose that the quality/abilities of those cameras are going to improve with time.
They also don't follow you around or go into bathrooms either.
No that's what portable cameras are for. Oh oh and hidden cameras. But of course our society doesn't deem the bathroom to be public for recording. So your argument is weak.
Yes, I'm recorded pretty often in public by surveillance cameras, but those don't store the video for very long and...
This is just a guess by you. You don't actually know how long a random security tape willl be stored.
Nor do you know if it is being posted to the internet.
..., much more importantly, aren't all sending their videos to Google.
Again this is just an opinion formed in ignorance; since you don't know the specifics of the camera's watching you.
The single centralized collection of surveillance videos is the privacy issue with Google Glass.
Then stop complaining about google glasses and start fighting to keep videos taken in *public* off the internet.
Do you seriously think there is any similarity between someone seeing/hearing something with their eyes/ears vs. someone going around possibly recording everything and then possibly "sharing" any or all of it with the entire Internet and in a way that can be indexed, aggregated, identified, and with no limit to how long it is stored or controlled?
1. Yes there is a similarity. It's called gossip.
2. Your in *public* not "private". So your desire for "privacy" in *public* is ignorant.
3. You are recorded all the time NOW. Just because they don't point out the camera(s) does not mean you are free from being recorded. And the recording can be shared anyway they want (relative to this discussion)... why? Because you are in *PUBLIC*!
Atheist males have more rights than Christian males. It's called the Separation of Church and State (which is not Constitutional, or even in the Bill of Rights, whether it's right or wrong, I won't debate today).
Why did you implicitly separate the first ten amendments to the Constitution from the rest of the body of work, as it applies to law?
Also why does everyone being barred from making laws for their religion only benefit the atheist?
I'm not looking for a debate. I'm trying to unpack your choice of words.
Yes you can. I've been on private servers.
Just because Blizzard says it breaks the *rules* doesn't mean you "can't" do something.
So I guess we can draw that parallel.
Okay so you say "Time to update the Miranda warning to include: 'Anything you Tweet or post can and will be held against you in a court of law'?'"'
And FTFH "Judge Debra S. Nelson said Martin's Twitter, Facebook and school records were relevant in the self-defense case." Miranda is for the accused.
Basically your snide comment makes your headline look dumb.
And your WP7 apps don't get to come along.... So there is ABSOLUTELY no reason to buy a WP7 device, or develop WP7 apps, because it won't gain you anything.
You sound like Nokia was fine before this M$ deal. If that's really what you thought I think you should review their history. They had flubbed all the advantages they had held.
What do you think they should have done? Got out a device based on Linux (which they already hadn't been able to make work for years, for whatever reason). Or do you think android would have saved them?
You are either a class A shill or you don't even own a Windows Phone at all.
I know I'm not a shill and I own an HTC Trophy. I responded to the orginal list and while I can't verify all the items that he listed; I can say that the original 121 have significant issues and flat out FALSE info in it. I know it's false because I bothered to check it on my phone, you should too.
I considered buying a Lumia 900 since they are practically giving them away now but after reading this, no freaking way and I'll be sure to steer my friends far away too.
You run away from something because you heard something bad about it on the interwebs 0_o? I smell B.S.
Actually, they are all true. Furthermore, the GP was obviously specifically referring to Windows Phone 7 which is what the article is about. Please try to keep up.
Actually they are not all true And I responded to around 50 of them.
You have a lot of problems in this list.
I dropped any of them that I couldn't verify or that I agreed with.
OS LIMITATIONS
1. No true multitasking for 3rd party apps - they re frozen in the background.
Misses the point. You can still run help tasks on a schedule just look at 3rd party live tiles they can update without having the app “frozen” in the background.
2. No Divx/Xvid video codec support. Zune will convert with loss of quality.
Maybe true but as mp3 showed a small loss doesn’t matter to the 99%
4. No micro-SD card support.
Redundant because of 3.
9. Limited to 800x480 resolution.
Why is this such a problem? Bullet point issue?
10. Voice search is hardwired to Bing.
So?
11. Cannot use any MP3 file as ringtone except those with strict constraints.
Angain big deal grab an app that takes care of it for you.
14. Cannot sync directly with Outlook without syncing to Cloud
So?
17. Images and photos cannot be renamed in the phone.
You also can’t run photoshop, why didn’t you list that?
20. Alarm clock cannot work when phone is turned off. All Nokia Symbian and Meego phones can do this.
This is actually important to who? It’s a smartphone not a dumbphone; charge it.
21. The idle screen is completely blank and cannot display time or notifications.
It shows all that and the play/ff/rw buttons.
22. Only photos allowed as email attachments, documents not allowed.
I just opened a.rtf attachment on my 7.5 phone so this is false.
26. Cannot use Bluetooth keyboard (no HID profile)
Maybe true. I have yet to ever see someone pull a Bluetooth keyboard out for their phone.
27. Cannot silence ringtone or alarm by flipping the phone.
Buy an htc. They come with an app to do that.
USABILITY ISSUES
30. No always visible status bar for battery life, signal strength, carrier ID, 2G/3G wi-fi, Bluetooth on.
The flip of this. The screen is not wasted with information you don’t need to always see.
31. Taskmanager has no option to shut down apps you donâ(TM)t want running in the background.
But you whined elsewhere that everything gets frozen when not active, so why do you care?
32. Search and Back button cannot be de-activated in apps or games and easily touched by accident which interrupt your user experience.
There are WP7 phones with real buttons for those. And they don’t have the same issue.
33. Lockscreen need to be activated to show missed call/sms notification.
So? Your whining that the power button needs to be pressed?
34. No way to close an app except pressing back button all the way to the first screen.
Again you already whined that it wasn’t running so why do you care?
39. Cannot close music player, can only pause. Music player on lockscreen will stay until you reboot. Be careful not to touch it in a meeting.
Personal problems are now WP7’s fault?
43. Search button in dialer does not search contacts for dialing, but search call history.
It also isn’t telepathic. Why don’t you ding it for not guessing what you want?
44. Cannot save draft sms messages.
I do all the time. Hit the windows button. Then start a “new” sms to the person and there’s your draft.
46. Cannot recognize phone numbers in sms or email to save or use as calling number.
I just tried it with an email. Both phone numbers and email addresses allow me to save after taping on them in the email.
53. If both wi-fi and data connection are available which one it chooses to use is unpredictable. User experiences donâ(TM)t agree with Microsoft that it âoetypicallyâ choose wi-fi over 3G.
This was an issue at launch, no longer.
FEATURE LIMITATIONS
62. No auto wallpaper changer and no app to do it.
Copy of 54
63. Totally locked down os means apps which interact directly with hardware not allowed. This excludes a who
It's not about his policies. It's about the timeline. The Judge had found for the DOJ. Then Mr. Bush came into office (and therefore the DOJ had a new boss). Then the DOJ asked the judge to just "slap MS on the wrist". It's not about policies but timing.
Your operating under the assumption that your "rights" trump everything. Our constitution tries very hard to protect your freedoms. But it does recognize that your freedom isn't absolute. In fact, your freedom specifically disappears when you are endangering people. For instance, you can have your freedom stripped from you if you yell fire in a crowded place, for malicious reasons. The only difference here is that you are quietly endangering everyone else for your own benefit.
Antivax is such a selfish position...
Slashdot Mirror
WOW all the way down at 31... so far down there! First I agree that they often come accross as "entitled self-absorbed people"; that said. Hmmm so it's at 31 of ~967,247,000 currently tracked sites by http://www.internetlivestats.c... Lets see... 31/967247000 ... wow that comes back as 3.20497246308337e-8 . So yeah I'm pretty sure they are in the 1% of the 0.00003204 percent. Seems like front page to me.
BTW I only care that you are using smoke and mirrors with number to make your point valid. I could care less where reddit ranks or what dumb thing they say about themselves.
You seem to confusing hindsight and foresight. Everyone knew what Elop and Microsoft were doing from the very beginning. This is definitely not a case of everyone figuring it out after the fall.
So, since it was so obvious. What should Nokia done? Stick with their internal OSes that weren't competitive? Move to Android and be a me too? Started from scratch, again? Everyone seems to want to pretend Nokia was in a good place and THEN Elop came along. His memo was stupid (in that he should have known it would get out and would have horrible side effects). But it wasn't wrong. They were in a bad place and the projected trend numbers seemed likely at the time. So what did they do so wrong at the time? Or are you just saying because Elop is Elop it followed that it must have been M$' plan to take over Nokia, just cause. And that's the part I'm missing?
Life is wonderful with hindsight. But look around. This market had an incredible shift happen to it in an amazingly short amount of time. Maybe Elop caused the cratering of Nokia. But then again, even companies that were, without a doubt, trying to survive cratered in the same time (Blackberry for instance).
...(I really hope they have).
Of course you do... your commenting in Slashdot.
Before anyone bothers to carefully craft a response to the poster above, have a look at his comment history: this is one of the clearest examples of a Microsoft shill that I've ever seen on Slashdot.
If you were honest you would have put: "Before anyone bothers to engage in a reasoned debate *I* shall step in with an ad hominem attack and show how my thoughts are superior over this loser. You know because I don't actually have the ability to debate them. " Sad!
Doesn't http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Relations supersede the Platt Amendment?
I LOVED CSS Zen Garden. Such a mind opening site for it's time!!!
1. Old ladies and kids in school give a shit about gossip. No one else.
But if they point a camera at me in public I'm going to lose it? Wow...
2. Even today, walk up to anyone in public, point a camera right at them, and see what happens.
Even today walk right up into someones face and see what happens. See? It's a bogus analogy.
Whether you like it or not, you ~cannot~ blatantly film someone against their will, whether they are in public or not. If there are laws that say you can, then those laws ~will~ change..if only to protect people like you from themselves.
Over one hundred years of it happening (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozXvAIOtifE). Your right, someday people are going to make laws to *protect* themselves from being ignorant of the english language (see the word PUBLIC). Oh wait, that must mean... I guess you ~CAN~ "blatantly film someone" in.... wait for it... *public*.
Do you seriously ever envision a scenario wherein a cop stands there and tells people they have to let you film them whether they like it or not? If anything, you would be arrested for creating a disturbance.
Do you seriously ever envision a scenario wherein a cop stands there and tells people they have to let you walk down the street whether they like it or not? Most people can.... know why? 'Cause your in *PUBLIC*
Have you ever noticed how on many newscasts, peoples faces in the background are blurred? Have you ever wondered why?
Yes, have you? Check out private use vs for profit use.
And surveillance cameras are typically far away from the subjects and also not recording audio.
So your just quibling over the extent of the recording? If so then I propose that the quality/abilities of those cameras are going to improve with time.
They also don't follow you around or go into bathrooms either.
No that's what portable cameras are for. Oh oh and hidden cameras. But of course our society doesn't deem the bathroom to be public for recording. So your argument is weak.
Yes, I'm recorded pretty often in public by surveillance cameras, but those don't store the video for very long and...
This is just a guess by you. You don't actually know how long a random security tape willl be stored.
Nor do you know if it is being posted to the internet.
..., much more importantly, aren't all sending their videos to Google.
Again this is just an opinion formed in ignorance; since you don't know the specifics of the camera's watching you.
The single centralized collection of surveillance videos is the privacy issue with Google Glass.
Then stop complaining about google glasses and start fighting to keep videos taken in *public* off the internet.
Do you seriously think there is any similarity between someone seeing/hearing something with their eyes/ears vs. someone going around possibly recording everything and then possibly "sharing" any or all of it with the entire Internet and in a way that can be indexed, aggregated, identified, and with no limit to how long it is stored or controlled?
1. Yes there is a similarity. It's called gossip.
2. Your in *public* not "private". So your desire for "privacy" in *public* is ignorant.
3. You are recorded all the time NOW. Just because they don't point out the camera(s) does not mean you are free from being recorded. And the recording can be shared anyway they want (relative to this discussion)... why? Because you are in *PUBLIC*!
Atheist males have more rights than Christian males. It's called the Separation of Church and State (which is not Constitutional, or even in the Bill of Rights, whether it's right or wrong, I won't debate today).
Why did you implicitly separate the first ten amendments to the Constitution from the rest of the body of work, as it applies to law?
Also why does everyone being barred from making laws for their religion only benefit the atheist?
I'm not looking for a debate. I'm trying to unpack your choice of words.
Yes you can. I've been on private servers. Just because Blizzard says it breaks the *rules* doesn't mean you "can't" do something. So I guess we can draw that parallel.
Okay so you say "Time to update the Miranda warning to include: 'Anything you Tweet or post can and will be held against you in a court of law'?'"' And FTFH "Judge Debra S. Nelson said Martin's Twitter, Facebook and school records were relevant in the self-defense case." Miranda is for the accused. Basically your snide comment makes your headline look dumb.
And your WP7 apps don't get to come along.... So there is ABSOLUTELY no reason to buy a WP7 device, or develop WP7 apps, because it won't gain you anything.
What are you talking about? WP7 apps DO carry over to WP8. from: http://www.liveside.net/2012/09/26/will-windows-phone-7-apps-just-work-in-windows-phone-8/
Microsoft said that Windows Phone 7 apps would run in Windows Phone 8
slackware -> red hat -> gentoo -> ubuntu -> suse -> ubuntu -> windows (desktop)/CentOS(servers)
Wasn't that when Linus was working for Transmeta? The x86-clone manufacturer that didn't make it?
Wow! A personal attack on him. That's your reply?. I thought better of you. And in case you think it's not... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_assassination and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem YES implying Linus only said something because he was paid by Transmeta is a personal attack which you used to deflect the question being presented to you.
You sound like Nokia was fine before this M$ deal. If that's really what you thought I think you should review their history. They had flubbed all the advantages they had held. What do you think they should have done? Got out a device based on Linux (which they already hadn't been able to make work for years, for whatever reason). Or do you think android would have saved them?
Even most of the things you disagree with you make excuses for or say are opinion, which is basically Stockholm Syndrome.
Nice. Either we agree with you or we are just poor deluded fools. Nice circular reasoning there!
You are either a class A shill or you don't even own a Windows Phone at all.
I know I'm not a shill and I own an HTC Trophy. I responded to the orginal list and while I can't verify all the items that he listed; I can say that the original 121 have significant issues and flat out FALSE info in it. I know it's false because I bothered to check it on my phone, you should too.
I considered buying a Lumia 900 since they are practically giving them away now but after reading this, no freaking way and I'll be sure to steer my friends far away too.
You run away from something because you heard something bad about it on the interwebs 0_o? I smell B.S.
Actually, they are all true. Furthermore, the GP was obviously specifically referring to Windows Phone 7 which is what the article is about. Please try to keep up.
Actually they are not all true And I responded to around 50 of them.
That got a Score of 5 for informative... why?
You have a lot of problems in this list.
.rtf attachment on my 7.5 phone so this is false.
I dropped any of them that I couldn't verify or that I agreed with.
OS LIMITATIONS
1. No true multitasking for 3rd party apps - they re frozen in the background.
Misses the point. You can still run help tasks on a schedule just look at 3rd party live tiles they can update without having the app “frozen” in the background.
2. No Divx/Xvid video codec support. Zune will convert with loss of quality.
Maybe true but as mp3 showed a small loss doesn’t matter to the 99%
4. No micro-SD card support.
Redundant because of 3.
9. Limited to 800x480 resolution.
Why is this such a problem? Bullet point issue?
10. Voice search is hardwired to Bing.
So?
11. Cannot use any MP3 file as ringtone except those with strict constraints.
Angain big deal grab an app that takes care of it for you.
14. Cannot sync directly with Outlook without syncing to Cloud
So?
17. Images and photos cannot be renamed in the phone.
You also can’t run photoshop, why didn’t you list that?
20. Alarm clock cannot work when phone is turned off. All Nokia Symbian and Meego phones can do this.
This is actually important to who? It’s a smartphone not a dumbphone; charge it.
21. The idle screen is completely blank and cannot display time or notifications.
It shows all that and the play/ff/rw buttons.
22. Only photos allowed as email attachments, documents not allowed.
I just opened a
26. Cannot use Bluetooth keyboard (no HID profile)
Maybe true. I have yet to ever see someone pull a Bluetooth keyboard out for their phone.
27. Cannot silence ringtone or alarm by flipping the phone.
Buy an htc. They come with an app to do that.
USABILITY ISSUES
30. No always visible status bar for battery life, signal strength, carrier ID, 2G/3G wi-fi, Bluetooth on.
The flip of this. The screen is not wasted with information you don’t need to always see.
31. Taskmanager has no option to shut down apps you donâ(TM)t want running in the background.
But you whined elsewhere that everything gets frozen when not active, so why do you care?
32. Search and Back button cannot be de-activated in apps or games and easily touched by accident which interrupt your user experience.
There are WP7 phones with real buttons for those. And they don’t have the same issue.
33. Lockscreen need to be activated to show missed call/sms notification.
So? Your whining that the power button needs to be pressed?
34. No way to close an app except pressing back button all the way to the first screen.
Again you already whined that it wasn’t running so why do you care?
39. Cannot close music player, can only pause. Music player on lockscreen will stay until you reboot. Be careful not to touch it in a meeting.
Personal problems are now WP7’s fault?
43. Search button in dialer does not search contacts for dialing, but search call history.
It also isn’t telepathic. Why don’t you ding it for not guessing what you want?
44. Cannot save draft sms messages.
I do all the time. Hit the windows button. Then start a “new” sms to the person and there’s your draft.
46. Cannot recognize phone numbers in sms or email to save or use as calling number.
I just tried it with an email. Both phone numbers and email addresses allow me to save after taping on them in the email.
53. If both wi-fi and data connection are available which one it chooses to use is unpredictable. User experiences donâ(TM)t agree with Microsoft that it âoetypicallyâ choose wi-fi over 3G.
This was an issue at launch, no longer.
FEATURE LIMITATIONS
62. No auto wallpaper changer and no app to do it.
Copy of 54
63. Totally locked down os means apps which interact directly with hardware not allowed. This excludes a who
It's not about his policies. It's about the timeline. The Judge had found for the DOJ. Then Mr. Bush came into office (and therefore the DOJ had a new boss). Then the DOJ asked the judge to just "slap MS on the wrist". It's not about policies but timing.
Your operating under the assumption that your "rights" trump everything. Our constitution tries very hard to protect your freedoms. But it does recognize that your freedom isn't absolute. In fact, your freedom specifically disappears when you are endangering people. For instance, you can have your freedom stripped from you if you yell fire in a crowded place, for malicious reasons. The only difference here is that you are quietly endangering everyone else for your own benefit. Antivax is such a selfish position...