Yep, I've seen Linux machines being owned and used for botnets - via flaws in PHP applications. Thing is, a webserver running Linux is going to be pretty stable, always on and has a good chance of being connected to a fairly fat pipe. Sure, it's a niche, but you only need a couple of hundred bots instead of thousands to be able to deliver a pretty good traffic stream.
(btw- Linux fan and user since 1995 - on and off.)
If you don't comply with the laws in Europe, you are going to have to expect some sanctions and not the slap-on-the-wrist-don't-do-it-again DOJ response.
Lots of EU companies get fined for monopolistic practices and price fixing, so please stop going on like it's only MS that gets it.
Because CFCs help the breakdown of O3 into O2, but do not themselves get broken down in the reaction. They can persist in the upper atmosphere for fifty or more years. That's why the ozone hole has not suddenly repaired itself - because there are still plenty of CFCs around where they shouldn't be.
Seriously, I've been reading about this issue since the British Antarctic Survey said "hey guys, we've got a problem".
"The discovery by the British Antarctic Survey of the Antarctic ozone hole provided an early warning of the dangerous thinning of the ozone layer worldwide, and spurred international efforts to curb the production of CFCs. The provisions of the Montreal Protocol of 1987 on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer have been revised and strengthened and are being followed by virtually all UN Member states. There is a reasonable prospect that the Antarctic ozone hole will permanently repair itself, but not until around 2070."
http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/about_antarctica/geography/ozone.php
If you don't like wikipedia, here's NASA:
"The ozone layer protects us from the Sun's harmful ultraviolet radiation and is vital to life on Earth. Depletion of this protective layer can be harmful to the health of humans, plants and animals. Human-produced pollutants called chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) emitted into the atmosphere are the main cause of ozone loss. Scientists first discovered dramatic depletions in the ozone layer in 1985. Although recent initiatives by governments around the world have stopped the production of CFCs, damaging chemicals still persist in the upper atmosphere."
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/arctic_air.html
This is utter bollocks even by the standards of slashdot. Do you bother to even look at a subject before forming an opinion?
Ozone is a pollutant at ground level, but CFCs in the upper atmosphere do most definitely break down ozone.
"The scientists, Paul Crutzen, Mario Molina and F. Sherwood Rowland, won the 1995 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for their work showing how chlorofluorocarbons destroy ozone." -- http://www.atmosphere.mpg.de/enid/208.html
When sunlight is breaking down ozone, it's doing its job if you like - it's protecting us from the relatively harmful UVB rays from the sun But wait, it's not the simplistic idead of the sun destroying ozone, because it is the same radiation that causes O2 (oxygen) molecules to form O3 (ozone). ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_depletion )
If you ever put your theory to a real chemist they will probably beat you about the head with a copy of "Introduction to Inorganic Chemistry" - or whatever similar volume is to hand.
You are wrong. Secondary MXs are often not supplied with the list of the users, and so some of them do accept all mail, but they are not required to do so in any way.
Secondaries are not important these days - mail will be queued for a good while if your MX goes down. Better to have two independent MXs of equal priority though and then you can take one off-line whenever you want. Having off-site DNS is far more important than a secondary, because if your MX records don't resolve then you start losing mail RIGHT NOW.
Reject, not bounce has been the mantra for some years now. NDRs just makes it too easy to DDoS someone by generating a bunch of forged mail.
UK banks are - in general - not as fucked up as some of their US counterparts. I can access both Lloyds TSB and HSBC from Linux/firefox with no problem at all.
If they did bring out a Windows-only website, I would be looking for a new bank.
Windows 2003 is pretty stable, and so is IIS6. But a lot of the problems with using Windows, aren't specifically the OS itself but things like:
* per seat licensing for lots of apps. At one place we had 500k deliverable mail addresses, so conversations would go like "X per year and our per-seat cost is..." "Bye! <click>"
* many apps want admin to run, so even if you know how to secure the OS, you're relying on the competence of application programmers who are encouraged to get code out of the door.
* apps each keeping their own copy of a DLL. what is the fucking point? why not just link it statically?
MS need to start kicking some arses in respect of sane programming standards. That would help considerably.
I have always wondered why people don't automatically Re-DOS the DOSer.
Yeah, because when your pipe is full of traffic you don't want, the best thing is to double it and hit a load of home computer users who will just think the 'net is a bit slow today.
and burn all the documentation? Sure, they might have to write off a couple of hundred mil, but I figure Larry and Sergei can afford that kind of money.
An engineering student is walking on campus one day when another engineer rides up on a shiny new motorcycle.
"Where did you get such a rockin' bike?" asks the first.
The second engineer replies, "Well, I was walking along yesterday minding my own business when a beautiful woman rode up on this bike. She threw the bike to the ground, took off all her clothes and said 'Take what you want.'"
The second engineer nods approvingly "Good choice, the clothes probably wouldn't have fit."
Computer science is maths. There are no fucking "bangs" in maths - if there's no security holes the only thing you can do is DDoS it off the net. This is the sort of drivel I usually expect from Hollywood hacker films; I can just see this guy typing "access all the secret files" into a bash prompt and expecting it to work.
Bah! Everyone trots out the "DNSBLs suck" line. We used SBL+XBL on our MXs and threw away around 70% of mail before a human ever saw it. Then we did more filtering inside. Do you know what? Our users still said they were getting too much spam. (entirely correctly).
So go on, walk into a reasonable sized mail site, with a domain that's been around for a while and more than 10K users and turn off the DNSBLs. I dare ya.
If it's high end, you mean the A440 - which had a shocking 4Mb of RAM if I recall. My dad purchased an A310, not wanting to get an A305 because we'd need more than half a meg of memory. I remember not believing him at the time:)
I can tell you from my experience in the UK (I've lived in the UK for about 4 years, coming form Mexico) is that you people over here have it really easy. Shit, people can just stop working and the government will pay them money. "spare some change mate?" you see people selling the "big issue" and then they go to cash their check to get beer. That is being poor in this country. Let me tell you, you do not know what the fuck you are talking about.
When did abuse become Insightful? Try spending a week on the streets in winter, in the pouring rain and then tell me the homeless have it easy. If you're worried about them spending the money on alcohol, buy them a fucking coffee instead, or go help out in a soup kitchen.
The wealth divide in the UK is widening, there are fewer women directors of companies than ten years ago, we helped start an illegal war just recently, so there are plenty of things to complain about. Just because some places have things worse, does not mean I am going to keep quiet.
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Yep, I've seen Linux machines being owned and used for botnets - via flaws in PHP applications. Thing is, a webserver running Linux is going to be pretty stable, always on and has a good chance of being connected to a fairly fat pipe. Sure, it's a niche, but you only need a couple of hundred bots instead of thousands to be able to deliver a pretty good traffic stream.
(btw- Linux fan and user since 1995 - on and off.)
I think that is possibly the first op-amp joke I've ever seen/heard. Congratulations.
If you don't comply with the laws in Europe, you are going to have to expect some sanctions and not the slap-on-the-wrist-don't-do-it-again DOJ response.
Lots of EU companies get fined for monopolistic practices and price fixing, so please stop going on like it's only MS that gets it.
Because CFCs help the breakdown of O3 into O2, but do not themselves get broken down in the reaction. They can persist in the upper atmosphere for fifty or more years. That's why the ozone hole has not suddenly repaired itself - because there are still plenty of CFCs around where they shouldn't be.
Seriously, I've been reading about this issue since the British Antarctic Survey said "hey guys, we've got a problem".
"The discovery by the British Antarctic Survey of the Antarctic ozone hole provided an early warning of the dangerous thinning of the ozone layer worldwide, and spurred international efforts to curb the production of CFCs. The provisions of the Montreal Protocol of 1987 on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer have been revised and strengthened and are being followed by virtually all UN Member states. There is a reasonable prospect that the Antarctic ozone hole will permanently repair itself, but not until around 2070." http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/about_antarctica/geography/ozone.php
If you don't like wikipedia, here's NASA: "The ozone layer protects us from the Sun's harmful ultraviolet radiation and is vital to life on Earth. Depletion of this protective layer can be harmful to the health of humans, plants and animals. Human-produced pollutants called chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) emitted into the atmosphere are the main cause of ozone loss. Scientists first discovered dramatic depletions in the ozone layer in 1985. Although recent initiatives by governments around the world have stopped the production of CFCs, damaging chemicals still persist in the upper atmosphere." http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/arctic_air.html
I don't remember the "moan about other people's demo apps" bit from "Getting Real".
Ozone is a pollutant at ground level, but CFCs in the upper atmosphere do most definitely break down ozone. "The scientists, Paul Crutzen, Mario Molina and F. Sherwood Rowland, won the 1995 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for their work showing how chlorofluorocarbons destroy ozone." -- http://www.atmosphere.mpg.de/enid/208.html
When sunlight is breaking down ozone, it's doing its job if you like - it's protecting us from the relatively harmful UVB rays from the sun But wait, it's not the simplistic idead of the sun destroying ozone, because it is the same radiation that causes O2 (oxygen) molecules to form O3 (ozone). ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_depletion )
If you ever put your theory to a real chemist they will probably beat you about the head with a copy of "Introduction to Inorganic Chemistry" - or whatever similar volume is to hand.
Secondaries are not important these days - mail will be queued for a good while if your MX goes down. Better to have two independent MXs of equal priority though and then you can take one off-line whenever you want. Having off-site DNS is far more important than a secondary, because if your MX records don't resolve then you start losing mail RIGHT NOW.
Reject, not bounce has been the mantra for some years now. NDRs just makes it too easy to DDoS someone by generating a bunch of forged mail.
UK banks are - in general - not as fucked up as some of their US counterparts. I can access both Lloyds TSB and HSBC from Linux/firefox with no problem at all.
If they did bring out a Windows-only website, I would be looking for a new bank.
Windows 2003 is pretty stable, and so is IIS6. But a lot of the problems with using Windows, aren't specifically the OS itself but things like:
* per seat licensing for lots of apps. At one place we had 500k deliverable mail addresses, so conversations would go like "X per year and our per-seat cost is..." "Bye! <click>"
* many apps want admin to run, so even if you know how to secure the OS, you're relying on the competence of application programmers who are encouraged to get code out of the door.
* apps each keeping their own copy of a DLL. what is the fucking point? why not just link it statically?
MS need to start kicking some arses in respect of sane programming standards. That would help considerably.
I have always wondered why people don't automatically Re-DOS the DOSer.
Yeah, because when your pipe is full of traffic you don't want, the best thing is to double it and hit a load of home computer users who will just think the 'net is a bit slow today.and burn all the documentation? Sure, they might have to write off a couple of hundred mil, but I figure Larry and Sergei can afford that kind of money.
An engineering student is walking on campus one day when another engineer rides up on a shiny new motorcycle. "Where did you get such a rockin' bike?" asks the first. The second engineer replies, "Well, I was walking along yesterday minding my own business when a beautiful woman rode up on this bike. She threw the bike to the ground, took off all her clothes and said 'Take what you want.'" The second engineer nods approvingly "Good choice, the clothes probably wouldn't have fit."
Ah, memories of AusCERT. Could be quite a nice conference if you banned the breathtakingly dull contingent from the federal government.
Computer science is maths. There are no fucking "bangs" in maths - if there's no security holes the only thing you can do is DDoS it off the net. This is the sort of drivel I usually expect from Hollywood hacker films; I can just see this guy typing "access all the secret files" into a bash prompt and expecting it to work.
One could, if one were an innumerate moron.
Oh great. Then I consider myself a driving expert as I've written off lots of cars.
I see Bruce's wife has mod points today.
Bah! Everyone trots out the "DNSBLs suck" line. We used SBL+XBL on our MXs and threw away around 70% of mail before a human ever saw it. Then we did more filtering inside. Do you know what? Our users still said they were getting too much spam. (entirely correctly).
So go on, walk into a reasonable sized mail site, with a domain that's been around for a while and more than 10K users and turn off the DNSBLs. I dare ya.
If it's high end, you mean the A440 - which had a shocking 4Mb of RAM if I recall. My dad purchased an A310, not wanting to get an A305 because we'd need more than half a meg of memory. I remember not believing him at the time :)
No, it's always the user's fault. Unless that user is me, when it's the fault of Microsoft/Ubuntu/RedHat.
Don't mod funny, I am entirely serious.
When did abuse become Insightful? Try spending a week on the streets in winter, in the pouring rain and then tell me the homeless have it easy. If you're worried about them spending the money on alcohol, buy them a fucking coffee instead, or go help out in a soup kitchen.
The wealth divide in the UK is widening, there are fewer women directors of companies than ten years ago, we helped start an illegal war just recently, so there are plenty of things to complain about. Just because some places have things worse, does not mean I am going to keep quiet.
You're assuming he's Scottish? He could be from Wales, or the Republic of Yorkshire.
I'm at a loss to how it could be made more of a fuck-up than Iraq - which was done unaided. Do tell.
I felt a great disturbance in the force - as if millions of geeks had ROFl'ed and then were silent.