In Israel, there are however specific historical reasons that are still valid today. Israel's Declaration of Indepence specifically states that one basic reason for the establishement of the state is to provide shelter from persecution:
The catastrophe which recently befell the Jewish people - the massacre of millions of Jews in Europe - was another clear demonstration of the urgency of solving the problem of its homelessness by re-establishing in Eretz-Israel the Jewish State
.History has proven that such shelter is needed, with Germany/Austria being the biggest offenders, but not at all the only ones. Since violent antisemitism still exists worldwide today, this task of Israel has not stopped, and therefore it is arguable, IMHO.
If you have dependency problems in Debian, you need to learn how to use you distro. Seriously. Let me recycle this comment. Or look into the docs. (4th link on google for 'debian "security fix" version' btw.).
In Germany, this has thankfully been changed by the SPD/Greens coalition on Jan 1, 2000 with the new citizenship law. You are right insofar as before that, Germany was the last modern state I know of that still had a citizenship law that was based on the dubious notion of "blood": a descendent of German resettlers to Romania, or whatever, from hundreds of years ago was basically granted citizenship on arrival (even w/o any language skills or knowledge of Germany), while it was extremely hard otherwise, even for a fully integrated or assimilated Turkish, or Yugoslavian, or whatever person who had lived and worked in Germany for decades if he/she had no German heritage/"bloodline".
A few months ago on BBB World Service I heard a story about a new study being done in Great Britain which supposedly showed that in GB, Korean immigrants are among those immigrant groups that perform the worst. Sorry, I have searched Google and the BBC website for a while, but couldn't find a reference.
You agree, but you don't get it:) I think that was exactly what the parent was talking about: you can do all this by statically linking on Linux, and then have your app selfcontained in a directory. Many commercial apps do this.
It looked as if by saying that that was 50 "freaking years" ago, you suggested that "we" (the west or something) would be very far away from the behavior we see in the arabic countries today. Sorry if I misinterpreted. Reading the comments in this story must have made me paranoid.
Kamikazes died out uh.. about 50 freakin years ago!?
How old are you, ten? Look, son, 50 years are nothing in the development of humanity. They "died out" just 25 freakin years before I was born, doesn't sound that much to me. My dad was 21 already. And I'm not even middle-aged.
Hell, 25 years before I was born my anchestors in this country had to be stopped by an onslaught of most major nations from exterminating millions of jews, gays, sinti, roma, communists, anarchists, libertarians, (I'm sure I forgot some groups) systematically in fucking factories built for the purpose.
In the decades afterwards, many of these criminals continued to lead the major organizations of state and private sector. A guy like Heinrich Gross who performed the cruelest experiments on handicapped childen in a Nazi hospital, continued to serve as an psychological expert in trials. Which in fact meant that it could happen to you (and did to a lot of people) that the police would bust you with a little marijuana or something, and if it went to trial, this Nazi killer asshole "examined" you and gave his assessment of your psychological state to the judge.
Others, who had sentenced people to death routinely every day for printing of pamphlets, etc., took high positions in the "democratic" post-war judiciary system. Walter Roemer had been the First Prosecutor at the Sondergerichtshof (Special Court) in Munich, where, among many others, he sentenced Sophie Scholl to death. He became head of the department for public law in the post-war ministry of justice.
Major industry leaders like Alfried Krupp who had built a factory right beside Auschwitz, were left with a slap on the wrist, if anything at all.
These are just examples for the sake of brevity, and it stopped only because slowly these criminals die out.
Totally agreed on jihads, fatwas, crusades, etc., but really, you can also be killed in the US (or anywhere in the west), with support from the state, for expressing the wrong views.
It is common for a woman to be completely covered from head to toe in some Muslim cultures. It is common for a man to wear a mortification belt in some christian cultures.
You might not remember, but before Monsantotook over, farmers usually didn't purchase patented, genetically crippled (can't reproduce) seeds. Instead, they used part of their harvest as seeds for the next year. Thus, they would have most seeds at harvest time.;)
But if he was, then I know plenty -- because he told us lots of things about his kingdom (...) I "know" that Gods's plans and promises written in the Bible are true
Even if the God entity Jesus talked about exists, and even if he/she/it in some way made Jesus walk the earth, etc., I'd say you still know nothing: because you only know what the Bible says, the content of which (i) was written down several decades after the events took place (ii) as a book was a rather arbitrary collection of the accounts that had been given, with the selection being based on mostly political decisions, and thus several important works being excluded (iii) has been translated numerous times so that today no two translations seem to agree on important parts (even the 2 big German translations [protestant and catholic], which are the most familiar to me, differ in major aspects) (iv) underwent 2000 years of being copied, being interpred, texts being included and excluded.
Having seen how eye witness accounts of a simple car accident differ after mere minutes, please excuse if I find the Bible a highly interesting book that was extremely important to how the world developed, and which contains many ideas that I personally consider "good" (and others I consider "evil"), but in now way would I think it contains "the word of God", even if it had contained it in the beginning, which I find highly inprobable in the first place.
Some (like the so-called "President" Bush) claim to know more about God's will than I do, because God seems to talk to them. Excuse me if I will get me a gun if they try to enforce this on me.
Are you crazy? If we take all religions and other crackpot stuff into account, distros would only be able to release on 20 days per year or something. Seriously, if a distro released on a day that is a holiday for me, or simply on a day where I have something else to do, what's the problem with simply installing the next day?
Difference being that with Debian Stable, they backport the security fixes. You are guaranteed that a security fix touches nothing else. And you are more or less guaranteed that it won't break anything. The same can't be said about MS service packs
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If you have dependency problems in Debian, you need to learn how to use you distro. Seriously. Let me recycle this comment. Or look into the docs. (4th link on google for 'debian "security fix" version' btw.).
In Germany, this has thankfully been changed by the SPD/Greens coalition on Jan 1, 2000 with the new citizenship law.
You are right insofar as before that, Germany was the last modern state I know of that still had a citizenship law that was based on the dubious notion of "blood": a descendent of German resettlers to Romania, or whatever, from hundreds of years ago was basically granted citizenship on arrival (even w/o any language skills or knowledge of Germany), while it was extremely hard otherwise, even for a fully integrated or assimilated Turkish, or Yugoslavian, or whatever person who had lived and worked in Germany for decades if he/she had no German heritage/"bloodline".
A few months ago on BBB World Service I heard a story about a new study being done in Great Britain which supposedly showed that in GB, Korean immigrants are among those immigrant groups that perform the worst. Sorry, I have searched Google and the BBC website for a while, but couldn't find a reference.
Please let me recycle a comment that was originally misplaced but gives a few good reasons for boomerish void in Germany.
With the sole exception of Fallout 2
Try the right tool
If you want to run a notepad, minesweeper or solitaire. I've never been able to WINE more complex windows applications than that.
Other people did
You agree, but you don't get it :) I think that was exactly what the parent was talking about: you can do all this by statically linking on Linux, and then have your app selfcontained in a directory. Many commercial apps do this.
It looked as if by saying that that was 50 "freaking years" ago, you suggested that "we" (the west or something) would be very far away from the behavior we see in the arabic countries today. Sorry if I misinterpreted. Reading the comments in this story must have made me paranoid.
I'm too lazy to give the numerous examples.
Yeah, because these guys, and these guys are also basically the same, because they are all christian.
Yeah, don't let the facts get into the way of your racism.
Kamikazes died out uh.. about 50 freakin years ago!?
How old are you, ten? Look, son, 50 years are nothing in the development of humanity. They "died out" just 25 freakin years before I was born, doesn't sound that much to me. My dad was 21 already. And I'm not even middle-aged.
Hell, 25 years before I was born my anchestors in this country had to be stopped by an onslaught of most major nations from exterminating millions of jews, gays, sinti, roma, communists, anarchists, libertarians, (I'm sure I forgot some groups) systematically in fucking factories built for the purpose.
In the decades afterwards, many of these criminals continued to lead the major organizations of state and private sector. A guy like Heinrich Gross who performed the cruelest experiments on handicapped childen in a Nazi hospital, continued to serve as an psychological expert in trials. Which in fact meant that it could happen to you (and did to a lot of people) that the police would bust you with a little marijuana or something, and if it went to trial, this Nazi killer asshole "examined" you and gave his assessment of your psychological state to the judge.
Others, who had sentenced people to death routinely every day for printing of pamphlets, etc., took high positions in the "democratic" post-war judiciary system. Walter Roemer had been the First Prosecutor at the Sondergerichtshof (Special Court) in Munich, where, among many others, he sentenced Sophie Scholl to death. He became head of the department for public law in the post-war ministry of justice.
Major industry leaders like Alfried Krupp who had built a factory right beside Auschwitz, were left with a slap on the wrist, if anything at all.
These are just examples for the sake of brevity, and it stopped only because slowly these criminals die out.
Just 50 years. Get a perspective.
Totally agreed on jihads, fatwas, crusades, etc., but really, you can also be killed in the US (or anywhere in the west), with support from the state, for expressing the wrong views.
It is common for a woman to be completely covered from head to toe in some Muslim cultures.
It is common for a man to wear a mortification belt in some christian cultures.
You might not remember, but before Monsanto took over, farmers usually didn't purchase patented, genetically crippled (can't reproduce) seeds. Instead, they used part of their harvest as seeds for the next year. Thus, they would have most seeds at harvest time. ;)
Even if the software is free, the hardware won't ever be
It already is
Somewhat.
But if he was, then I know plenty -- because he told us lots of things about his kingdom (...) I "know" that Gods's plans and promises written in the Bible are true
Even if the God entity Jesus talked about exists, and even if he/she/it in some way made Jesus walk the earth, etc., I'd say you still know nothing: because you only know what the Bible says, the content of which
(i) was written down several decades after the events took place
(ii) as a book was a rather arbitrary collection of the accounts that had been given, with the selection being based on mostly political decisions, and thus several important works being excluded
(iii) has been translated numerous times so that today no two translations seem to agree on important parts (even the 2 big German translations [protestant and catholic], which are the most familiar to me, differ in major aspects)
(iv) underwent 2000 years of being copied, being interpred, texts being included and excluded.
Having seen how eye witness accounts of a simple car accident differ after mere minutes, please excuse if I find the Bible a highly interesting book that was extremely important to how the world developed, and which contains many ideas that I personally consider "good" (and others I consider "evil"), but in now way would I think it contains "the word of God", even if it had contained it in the beginning, which I find highly inprobable in the first place.
Some (like the so-called "President" Bush) claim to know more about God's will than I do, because God seems to talk to them. Excuse me if I will get me a gun if they try to enforce this on me.
Sure you can
Are you crazy? If we take all religions and other crackpot stuff into account, distros would only be able to release on 20 days per year or something. Seriously, if a distro released on a day that is a holiday for me, or simply on a day where I have something else to do, what's the problem with simply installing the next day?
Right, it wasn't OT, it was a troll
Instead of requesting someone to summarize the previous 150 posts for your convenience, you might consider reading them yourself
Difference being that with Debian Stable, they backport the security fixes. You are guaranteed that a security fix touches nothing else. And you are more or less guaranteed that it won't break anything.
The same can't be said about MS service packs
Actually it does have a modular xorg