There is a root password but it isn't really documented anywhere.
Nononono, how often do we have to dispel this myth! If people like you would do their homework before talking, it would probably already have died. From/etc/passwd:
root:!:13456:0:99999:7:::
From "man shadow": "If the password field contains some string that is not valid result of crypt(3), for instance ! or *, the user will not be able to use a unix password to log in, subject to pam(7)."
So, effectively, the root account is disabled and no password exists that would let you in. Before writing about sudo and root in Ubuntu again, please read this:)
if someone is installing something like Ubuntu, he's after easy of use, and Microsoft-style "easy of use", not what a sys admin would see as easy
I know, and I certainly accept that. I am glad that the ubuntu guys have taken measures to provide easier codec installation. I am not sure what you mean with MS-style ease of use. No, seriously. To install any piece of software on Windows (and I need lots of basic utilities since compared to even GNOME, Windows comes with nothing at all and its window management is from the stone age), I need to go hunt for it.
Regarding codecs and other multimedia stuff, Windows out of the box can play DVDs just as well as Ubuntu, and if I try to play a DivX file, Media Player tells me "codec not found", without any further hints. If I didn't know to download the DivX codes I would be lost at this point.
Ubuntu has lots of improvement potential to become easier to use for the novice, but Windows certainly is no role model.
Getautomatix is still down, I guess we have lots of users breaking their fresh Feisty installs;)
1.x was not kinda buggy, it was produced by "arnieboy", a guy who had no fucking clue what he was doing, and breaking systems left and right. And when Ubuntu developers tried to help and discuss improvements with him, he refused to listen and acted hurt and persecuted. I know, I was there and followed the discussion. I swore I would not touch anything this guy produced, and warn everyone I could. Then update time came and I was hanging out on ubuntu-users fixing broken systems.
Automatix 2 did less stupid things but still some, and still broke updates. I frankly don't care about 3:)
I also don't see the value of it anymore: I understood making installation of unfree stuff simpler (although I still don't get what's so hard following the help), but this is taken care of in Feisty anyway.\ Wine has its own repos for newer versions, and anyone playing with wine dev versions should know how to add a repo. All Ubuntu packages are single-click install anyway, I dunno why anyone need Automatix for it. If there is a usability issue in finding them, the Automatix guy should better work with the distro people to fix it if he cares so much. I cannot check for the other stuff (scripts) since getautomatix.com is down.
I don't know what the heck it does, but AFAICT the vast majority is codecs, flash, java. This site (updated for Feisty) has explained what to do for a very long time, and they instructions are not that complicated, you would have learned something, your system would not be broken, and overall you might have saved time (if your system does break now). Keep smiling:)
AFAIK the 6.06 live CD does not even install with less than 256. Did you install with the Alternative CD? And are you serious about server load? They are being hammered by multi-gig downloads, I don't think they have to worry about you pulling a few KB webpage:)
And you are calling me Captain Serious? Come on, my "a life" comment was obviously a joke, and gosh, did he set himself up for it; he practically begged for that answer. It's funny, laugh.
And I was a bit serious too. I am also a corporate drone, but if you cannot see that "I get up in the morning, feed my child, take a shower, go to work, go home, do my wife, go to bed" is not a life, I am not sure if I shall envy or feel sorry for you. Imagine yourself on your death bed, being asked what you did with your life, and giving this as an answer.
Yeah, your opinion certainly means that everyone should jump. What's wrong with brown, anyway. Earth is brown, animals are brown, humans are brown. I like it, it's warm and nice.
Especially, note that 6.06 cannot be directly upgraded to 7.04, you need to go to 6.10 first*. You might be quicker doing a backup and reinstalling.
* At least with the (recommended) automatic tool. If you know what you are doing, you can likely upgrade directly with the manual tools. You will need some knowledge though. (aptitude dist-upgrade, dpkg --force-things, and apt-get -f install are your friends. It won't be pretty)
Well you should have listened to all those people that scream "Don't do it, it sucks ass and will break updates!" when anyone mentions Automatix. However, Ubuntu users have formed an Automatix rescue team that AFAIK took care to test and fix the update scenarios that this pile of shit fucks up. I guess it should just work. In any case, read: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/704
-c is only needed if you upgrade from 6.06 LTS (Dapper) to 6.10 (Edgy), since by default, LTS releases will only upgrade to the next LTS release. -d is wrong since it is there to force an upgrade to a development version, which 7.04 (Feisty) isn't anymore.
I downloaded 7.04 about a week ago when it was still tagged as Beta. Does anyone know if anything has changed since then or do I have an up-to-date version?
The notification area will show an update alert if updates are available. Just click it. If you want to check manually, open the menu System|Administration and start Update Manager.
Don't get me wrong, I am not that different, except that I don't have a kid and am not getting laid (having pretty much fucked up my love life for the time being, spare me the long story), but in exchange I can squeeze in music and reading. And I can see that one can be happy enough that way, at least for some time. But, as another poster has noted, is this what we dreamed of doing when we were young? I certainly had grander ideas, and while I find it ok to do what we do (my job takes most of my time, but it is interesting, and I assume yours is too), I try not to fool myself that this is all there is to life. And at least I try to make some of my dreams come true.
I get up in the morning, feed my child, take a shower, go to work, go home, do my wife, go to bed. The same as I did before the government took away all my rights. Please tell me what I'm missing
Just want to add, for the benefit of anyone pursuing Beryl on Ubuntu with an ATi card, that the beryl packages in feisty do not support running on Xgl, you need to get the Ubuntu packages from the beryl homepage.
Its integration into the desktop environment sucks. A million things stop working. E.g., I lost the option to middle-click and drag in Nautilus, since this suddenly rotates the cube
How is it bloated?
Look at the freaking Beryl settings manager.
What? It has everything clearly labeled and sorted into different perfectly sensible sections.
Oh, I see, you have never worked with the majority of users -- non-experts. Get back to me when you have experience with them. Hint: as long as changing a setting in the settings manager breaks UI integration without warning, it is not ready.
To install beryl in Ubuntu: aptitude install beryl-ubuntu. To start beryl, type beryl-manager in a terminal.
Except if you have a vid card w/o good 3D drivers. Either you are SOL, or, if you have an ATi, have to jump through hoops to get Xgl working instead of AIGLX. And after you have set it up, it still has many, MANY usability issues. It's nice stuff, but years from being polished enough for the masses.
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Until you can use one apt-get command to upgrade, your upgrade isn't ready for release.
It is completely obvious that you have no clue at all and have never upgraded a Debian-based OS in your life. Go away.
There is a root password but it isn't really documented anywhere.
/etc/passwd:
:)
Nononono, how often do we have to dispel this myth! If people like you would do their homework before talking, it would probably already have died. From
root:!:13456:0:99999:7:::
From "man shadow":
"If the password field contains some string that is not valid result of crypt(3), for instance ! or *, the user will not be able to use a unix password to log in, subject to pam(7)."
So, effectively, the root account is disabled and no password exists that would let you in. Before writing about sudo and root in Ubuntu again, please read this
It's 7.04, but yeah, if you install all updates then you have final.
if someone is installing something like Ubuntu, he's after easy of use, and Microsoft-style "easy of use", not what a sys admin would see as easy
;)
I know, and I certainly accept that. I am glad that the ubuntu guys have taken measures to provide easier codec installation. I am not sure what you mean with MS-style ease of use. No, seriously. To install any piece of software on Windows (and I need lots of basic utilities since compared to even GNOME, Windows comes with nothing at all and its window management is from the stone age), I need to go hunt for it.
Regarding codecs and other multimedia stuff, Windows out of the box can play DVDs just as well as Ubuntu, and if I try to play a DivX file, Media Player tells me "codec not found", without any further hints. If I didn't know to download the DivX codes I would be lost at this point.
Ubuntu has lots of improvement potential to become easier to use for the novice, but Windows certainly is no role model.
Getautomatix is still down, I guess we have lots of users breaking their fresh Feisty installs
1.x was not kinda buggy, it was produced by "arnieboy", a guy who had no fucking clue what he was doing, and breaking systems left and right. And when Ubuntu developers tried to help and discuss improvements with him, he refused to listen and acted hurt and persecuted. I know, I was there and followed the discussion. I swore I would not touch anything this guy produced, and warn everyone I could. Then update time came and I was hanging out on ubuntu-users fixing broken systems.
:)
Automatix 2 did less stupid things but still some, and still broke updates. I frankly don't care about 3
I also don't see the value of it anymore:
I understood making installation of unfree stuff simpler (although I still don't get what's so hard following the help), but this is taken care of in Feisty anyway.\
Wine has its own repos for newer versions, and anyone playing with wine dev versions should know how to add a repo.
All Ubuntu packages are single-click install anyway, I dunno why anyone need Automatix for it. If there is a usability issue in finding them, the Automatix guy should better work with the distro people to fix it if he cares so much.
I cannot check for the other stuff (scripts) since getautomatix.com is down.
I don't know what the heck it does, but AFAICT the vast majority is codecs, flash, java. This site (updated for Feisty) has explained what to do for a very long time, and they instructions are not that complicated, you would have learned something, your system would not be broken, and overall you might have saved time (if your system does break now). Keep smiling :)
True, but I really really hope he would have said if he did ;)
AFAIK the 6.06 live CD does not even install with less than 256. Did you install with the Alternative CD? :)
And are you serious about server load? They are being hammered by multi-gig downloads, I don't think they have to worry about you pulling a few KB webpage
And you are calling me Captain Serious? Come on, my "a life" comment was obviously a joke, and gosh, did he set himself up for it; he practically begged for that answer. It's funny, laugh.
And I was a bit serious too. I am also a corporate drone, but if you cannot see that "I get up in the morning, feed my child, take a shower, go to work, go home, do my wife, go to bed" is not a life, I am not sure if I shall envy or feel sorry for you. Imagine yourself on your death bed, being asked what you did with your life, and giving this as an answer.
Yeah, your opinion certainly means that everyone should jump. What's wrong with brown, anyway. Earth is brown, animals are brown, humans are brown. I like it, it's warm and nice.
Especially, note that 6.06 cannot be directly upgraded to 7.04, you need to go to 6.10 first*. You might be quicker doing a backup and reinstalling.
* At least with the (recommended) automatic tool. If you know what you are doing, you can likely upgrade directly with the manual tools. You will need some knowledge though. (aptitude dist-upgrade, dpkg --force-things, and apt-get -f install are your friends. It won't be pretty)
Well you should have listened to all those people that scream "Don't do it, it sucks ass and will break updates!" when anyone mentions Automatix. However, Ubuntu users have formed an Automatix rescue team that AFAIK took care to test and fix the update scenarios that this pile of shit fucks up. I guess it should just work. In any case, read:
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/704
In case of trouble ask here http://www.getautomatix.com/forum/
Man, is it so fucking hard to go to ubuntu.com and click Release Notes? http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/704
So? Just compile this one package with your flags, Debian has all the tools.
He made a racist remark, and yes, that's flamebait.
-c is only needed if you upgrade from 6.06 LTS (Dapper) to 6.10 (Edgy), since by default, LTS releases will only upgrade to the next LTS release.
-d is wrong since it is there to force an upgrade to a development version, which 7.04 (Feisty) isn't anymore.
To do an upgrade correctly, follow the instructions here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
I downloaded 7.04 about a week ago when it was still tagged as Beta. Does anyone know if anything has changed since then or do I have an up-to-date version?
The notification area will show an update alert if updates are available. Just click it. If you want to check manually, open the menu System|Administration and start Update Manager.
One link seems to be missing from your post: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
(Up to now, the Feisty upgrade instructions were at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades , but this URL now forwards you to the new one.)
Go ahead, stereotyping is the most successful and rewarding way to deal with people.
Yes, I was joking. Partly.
Don't get me wrong, I am not that different, except that I don't have a kid and am not getting laid (having pretty much fucked up my love life for the time being, spare me the long story), but in exchange I can squeeze in music and reading. And I can see that one can be happy enough that way, at least for some time. But, as another poster has noted, is this what we dreamed of doing when we were young? I certainly had grander ideas, and while I find it ok to do what we do (my job takes most of my time, but it is interesting, and I assume yours is too), I try not to fool myself that this is all there is to life. And at least I try to make some of my dreams come true.
I get up in the morning, feed my child, take a shower, go to work, go home, do my wife, go to bed. The same as I did before the government took away all my rights. Please tell me what I'm missing
A life.
Just want to add, for the benefit of anyone pursuing Beryl on Ubuntu with an ATi card, that the beryl packages in feisty do not support running on Xgl, you need to get the Ubuntu packages from the beryl homepage.
self-imposed limitations
Right, let's get rid of this stupid "freedom" thing.
How does it suck?
Its integration into the desktop environment sucks. A million things stop working. E.g., I lost the option to middle-click and drag in Nautilus, since this suddenly rotates the cube
How is it bloated?
Look at the freaking Beryl settings manager.
What? It has everything clearly labeled and sorted into different perfectly sensible sections.
Oh, I see, you have never worked with the majority of users -- non-experts. Get back to me when you have experience with them. Hint: as long as changing a setting in the settings manager breaks UI integration without warning, it is not ready.
To install beryl in Ubuntu: aptitude install beryl-ubuntu. To start beryl, type beryl-manager in a terminal.
Except if you have a vid card w/o good 3D drivers. Either you are SOL, or, if you have an ATi, have to jump through hoops to get Xgl working instead of AIGLX. And after you have set it up, it still has many, MANY usability issues. It's nice stuff, but years from being polished enough for the masses.