I conceded you having a point in the other thread. This is just pure insanity though:
"So you're saying that a Microsoft product that doesn't install properly on Windows and requires a FAQ that includes instructions on how to reinstall a.DLL to make it work on windows something that has nothing to do with ease of use?"
I guess you got a point there:) Nevertheless I have been in situations where I would have loved to sync wirelessly, either with WiFi or with Bluetooth, and without charging.
Well, the reviewer didn't talk about connecting to music store sites, but specifically about connecting to his PC without a USB cable. And I find it amazing that you don't think this be a bonus point for the Zune. I mean, how long have people been asking for WiFi in the iPod? Since it's been released I think.
As the Zune software is needed to get music onto the the Zune, certainly the Zune's usability is diminished if the software is hard to install. It's not that hard to understand, really. Stop thinking like a geek for a second.
Well documented, yes. But the reviewer feels (and I can relate to that) that it is very annoying to know that the tech is there but is artificially crippled, that is it should be able to do it, but can't.
If you think that getting it to work in the first place is not a part of ease-of-use then I can just pray that you will never be responsible for designing anything I will need to use.
In Rochester, Minn., Jeremy Scherer and his wife spent three hours playing tennis and bowling, two of the games included with the Wii. Mr. Scherer says he managed to improve his scores -- at the cost of shoulders and back that were still aching the next day.
How stupid can you be? Of course after playing tennis and bowling (mimicking the real movements) for three hours will give you hurting body parts. It's the same (worse actually) if you actually go to the tennis court and play for three hours, and nobody complains about that. Some people need to get a bit of common sense.
Ah, link works now (was a slashdot problem it seems; yes, I _did correct the superfluous blank) and I must agree with my sibling AC: the link says the opposite of what you claim.
*hides in shame* Apologies to StefanJ. It seems I was so enraged by having to read through a multitude of similar postings -- but written in earnest -- just before I came across this one that I completely missed the sarcasm.
Not much, just every other OLPC discussion plus the comments above and below yours that explain that this IS NOT AIMED AT COUNTRIES WHERE PEOPLE ARE HUNGRY. Check the fucking buyer list for christ's sake. I swear,/. gets dumber by the day.
Where is the factual or evidential basis for this assertion?
There are no laws about "IP" anywhere. It is an idea propagated nearly exclusively through public statements by companies. No, I don't have a "scientific" basis for that - I have no intention of dedicating 20 years of my life tracking down the etymology of the term, and I guess Stallman hasn't either. However everyone who tracked the industry has seen it develop.
If you uphold your standard of having a scientific proof there is preciously little you can say at all. This is nonsense. As an example, do you have scientific proof for anything you say? You don't, and that's ok.
I use the term IP all the time. I do not do it to systematically distort and confuse the issues.
Then you do it out of ignorance. Care to explain in clear words what the fuck "Intellectual Property" is supposed to be, where it is defined, and which laws govern it?
proto-communist agenda
Ooooh scary. *shudder*
So we get you saying "that's its purpose" and using Stallman as "authority" when in fact it's paranoid nonsense with zero factual basis.
If you feel pressured by authority because of my linking to an article then it's you who is not a sophisticated reader. I have just pointed at a well thought-out article. Every reader is welcome to take away from it what he wants to.
Stallman has done more to harm the open source movement
That might be a problem for you, but it is not Stallman's or mine. Stallman has nothing to do with Open Source or a "open source movement."
We didn't have to release everything under the GPL.
Purchasing decisions for Windows and OS X are not like those for PS3 and Xbox360,
Exactly. I didn't have your points in mind though, though they play a role too. The main thing I think is that there is a lot of inertia when switching OSes because people have invested hours upon hours of learning them and the applications they use on top. Often their whole business processes are entangled with the OS and the apps. Retooling is not considered fun ("oh I get to learn a new OS") but a chore, and is costly.
All those points are totally not true for consoles and their apps (games). People might have invested hours to learn games, but the skills transfer rather well between MS-exclusives and Sony-exclusives, except if you absolutely need to play a sequel to one or the other. Learning a new game is considered fun and one of the points of playing in the first place, and whether you do that on PS3 or 360 does not matter. Nothing depends on your choice, like your business.
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This is so utterly wrong I don't even know where to begin. And I won't give examples unless you do.
There is no use in replying anymore, you don't want to get it.
I am working in usability and users don't care. That's why I see the whole "experience" as a unity.
I guess you got a point there :) Nevertheless I have been in situations where I would have loved to sync wirelessly, either with WiFi or with Bluetooth, and without charging.
Well, the reviewer didn't talk about connecting to music store sites, but specifically about connecting to his PC without a USB cable. And I find it amazing that you don't think this be a bonus point for the Zune. I mean, how long have people been asking for WiFi in the iPod? Since it's been released I think.
As the Zune software is needed to get music onto the the Zune, certainly the Zune's usability is diminished if the software is hard to install. It's not that hard to understand, really. Stop thinking like a geek for a second.
Well documented, yes. But the reviewer feels (and I can relate to that) that it is very annoying to know that the tech is there but is artificially crippled, that is it should be able to do it, but can't.
Yes, but it's not a reflection on "ease of use".
If you think that getting it to work in the first place is not a part of ease-of-use then I can just pray that you will never be responsible for designing anything I will need to use.
What WiFi devices should it "link up" with that it doesn't?
Computers, possibly?
Sounds like a spank p0rn movie, and I think it was one for the teachers.
I could have thought of that myself -- thanks :)
Ah, link works now (was a slashdot problem it seems; yes, I _did correct the superfluous blank) and I must agree with my sibling AC: the link says the opposite of what you claim.
Have you ever worked in a company together with users whose primary interest are not computers?
*hides in shame* Apologies to StefanJ. It seems I was so enraged by having to read through a multitude of similar postings -- but written in earnest -- just before I came across this one that I completely missed the sarcasm.
I cannot type or paste in the file location dialog at all
Ctrl+L, this is consistent throughout Gnome. IIRC the next gtk version will have this enabled by default
Did I miss any?
/. gets dumber by the day.
Not much, just every other OLPC discussion plus the comments above and below yours that explain that this IS NOT AIMED AT COUNTRIES WHERE PEOPLE ARE HUNGRY. Check the fucking buyer list for christ's sake. I swear,
That's because your link is broken. What's DFSF? Google doesn't know either.
KDE is more functional than Gnome by default.
"Has more functions" != "is more functional". Not for all classes of users.
Where is the factual or evidential basis for this assertion?
There are no laws about "IP" anywhere. It is an idea propagated nearly exclusively through public statements by companies. No, I don't have a "scientific" basis for that - I have no intention of dedicating 20 years of my life tracking down the etymology of the term, and I guess Stallman hasn't either.
However everyone who tracked the industry has seen it develop.
If you uphold your standard of having a scientific proof there is preciously little you can say at all. This is nonsense. As an example, do you have scientific proof for anything you say? You don't, and that's ok.
I use the term IP all the time. I do not do it to systematically distort and confuse the issues.
Then you do it out of ignorance. Care to explain in clear words what the fuck "Intellectual Property" is supposed to be, where it is defined, and which laws govern it?
proto-communist agenda
Ooooh scary. *shudder*
So we get you saying "that's its purpose" and using Stallman as "authority" when in fact it's paranoid nonsense with zero factual basis.
If you feel pressured by authority because of my linking to an article then it's you who is not a sophisticated reader. I have just pointed at a well thought-out article. Every reader is welcome to take away from it what he wants to.
Stallman has done more to harm the open source movement
That might be a problem for you, but it is not Stallman's or mine. Stallman has nothing to do with Open Source or a "open source movement."
We didn't have to release everything under the GPL.
Indeed. It's all completely voluntarily.
We don't need the "protection" the GPL gives us.
What are the alternatives?
I can't see any way of creating a definition that would have a chance in hell of ever being anything but ambiguous and self-contradictory.
That's because being ambiguous and self-contradictory is its purpose.
but most Christians think the earth is something like 6000 years old.
Actually only a tiny minority of christians think that, usually American whackos. No christian I have ever met in Europe does.
Purchasing decisions for Windows and OS X are not like those for PS3 and Xbox360,
Exactly. I didn't have your points in mind though, though they play a role too. The main thing I think is that there is a lot of inertia when switching OSes because people have invested hours upon hours of learning them and the applications they use on top. Often their whole business processes are entangled with the OS and the apps. Retooling is not considered fun ("oh I get to learn a new OS") but a chore, and is costly.
All those points are totally not true for consoles and their apps (games). People might have invested hours to learn games, but the skills transfer rather well between MS-exclusives and Sony-exclusives, except if you absolutely need to play a sequel to one or the other. Learning a new game is considered fun and one of the points of playing in the first place, and whether you do that on PS3 or 360 does not matter. Nothing depends on your choice, like your business.