Seconded- my cellphone (Toshiba 904T) pretty much does the same stuff as the N95 (2 key differences- 3.2MP instead of 5MP camera, and the GPS is... disjointed; the mapping program refuses to talk to the built-in GPS so I have to get a lat/long reading from the GPS first and input that into the phone's mapping program, so annoying, but at least it's Google Earth).
And of course the Chinese manufacturers won't give a crap about this,thus leaving customers with an option for backup. And heaven forbid that the US tries to stop them? the sparks will fly.
Exactly- I protest the legal way. I refuse to support the American record industry. I buy Japanese music instead (mmm- love that J-pop). (Note- Sony BMG is not the same as Sony Music Japan; Sony Music Japan stopped using DRM quite some time before the Sony BMG rootkit fiasco because they realized that it's not a good idea to mistreat customers, while Sony BMG... yeah- that rootkit DRM blew up in their faces)
How many international companies do business in China? If they do that those international companies will have to run lines in from HK or other countries, and will probably find that too expensive. Then China is left without foreign investment- not pretty.
I don't believe that any of the Chinese knockoff-phone manufacturers ever struck a deal with T-Mobile or Cingular, but they work there anyway (the tri-band ones, anyway). I used one for a while, and got quite a few LOLs in the process (knockoff N95 FTW).
Pity Web'n'Walk is Europe-only. T-Mobile USA has data charges that I would consider unreasonable. Of course, we could see it too with the introduction of 3G to the States.
China is the exception. It's 2007 here and 1xRTT is *still* the fastest mobile data network we have here. I'm waiting for the deployment for WCDMA, but at least I'm confident that when it comes here, it'll be the same as Japan/Europe, unlike the US (stupid US, always going against the grain- the FCC just *had* to put GSM in 1900/850 instead of the more standard 1800MHz/900MHz which means that the WCDMA uplink has to be placed somewhere incompatible; yes, I know about the cordless phones, but the US is switching to digital TV from analog and offering compensation to those affected, and the same could have been done with cordless).
Um... OK. I've only used mine (GPS phone, but it's a Toshiba, so don't know how much of a difference there is in the antenna between my phone and the N95) in China so far, and generally found that it works more slowly in the mountains than in urban areas (I get the 5-minute fix time too when in the mountains, and sometimes in Shanghai, but it's worked for me much better in Shanghai). And I was planning to switch to the N95 too... (my phone is currently broken in the headphone port and the GPS only gives me lat/longitude readings which I have to input into another Java app because it refuses to work nicely with the internal GPS; yeah, I need a better solution) looks like I'll wait for something better.
Sorry for that dig at you- I had an off day, and I shouldn't have taken it out on you.
Gee- the US is still stuck with the E2? The ROKR series over here (China) has moved on already- The Z6 is pretty much the Z3 done up with additional music functions (mostly what the E2 has, except that it has the A2DP Bluetooth profile as well as included wireless stereo headphones) and the E6 (movie-oriented, uses standard SD cards and runs Linux- a multimedia-oriented E680 done up in RAZR style) is for those that want a PDA rolled in with their entertainment machine.
I personally say to go for the 803T myself if you want music, but to each their own.
Actually, as far as I can tell, Sony-Ericsson *is* Japanese (and part-Swedish too- from Ericsson, but the Sony side is showing more in this batch of phones). And BTW- my Toshiba 904T lasts for 3-4 days with heavy web usage/light talking, something that unfortunately can't be said of the last SE phone I had.
Can't the carriers use their control for *positive* changes? Sony Ericsson phones in Japan have 1+GB internal storage and microSD as well as Memory Stick- this wouldn't have happened without carrier pressure. This is what we need to see out of US carriers.
"The Chinese themselves don't care all that much for liberty at this point." Who are you speaking for? As a Chinese person (US-born, long-term resident of China) I have to say that you certainly aren't speaking for me!
How about putting the EULA outside the box then? The Best Buy near me won't take returns unless the product is defective; not agreeing to the EULA doesn't make the product defective, unfortunately.
"You mean the fact that media companies won't make their products easily available to the public to download at a reasonable price?
Please. That justification for leeching didn't work when you were five, and it doesn't work now."
That is not a justification. It is a complaint about the status of the music industry. When a CD I can buy here in Shanghai, China for $3 (real, licensed, and everything) costs $15 (or maybe more) in the States to buy (the CD I'm talking about is "Hikaru Utada singles collection vol. 1") something's wrong. They're not charging reasonable prices; they're charging the maximum that people in each market will pay for it. Here in China, they have to compete with counterfeits, so they *have* to charge a reasonable price or they won't get any sales at all.
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Seconded- my cellphone (Toshiba 904T) pretty much does the same stuff as the N95 (2 key differences- 3.2MP instead of 5MP camera, and the GPS is ... disjointed; the mapping program refuses to talk to the built-in GPS so I have to get a lat/long reading from the GPS first and input that into the phone's mapping program, so annoying, but at least it's Google Earth).
Japan actually uses WCDMA, the successor to GSM. They use the same 3G that most of the world (except for America) uses.
And of course the Chinese manufacturers won't give a crap about this,thus leaving customers with an option for backup. And heaven forbid that the US tries to stop them? the sparks will fly.
Exactly- I protest the legal way. I refuse to support the American record industry. I buy Japanese music instead (mmm- love that J-pop). (Note- Sony BMG is not the same as Sony Music Japan; Sony Music Japan stopped using DRM quite some time before the Sony BMG rootkit fiasco because they realized that it's not a good idea to mistreat customers, while Sony BMG... yeah- that rootkit DRM blew up in their faces)
Google.co.jp (Japan) and google.co.za (South Africa) haven't failed me yet. It's good to know multiple languages.
How many international companies do business in China? If they do that those international companies will have to run lines in from HK or other countries, and will probably find that too expensive. Then China is left without foreign investment- not pretty.
Hey, this is somewhat off-topic, but I thought you said RCA bought Victor. They seem to be alive and well in Japan (they make great headphones, BTW)
I don't believe that any of the Chinese knockoff-phone manufacturers ever struck a deal with T-Mobile or Cingular, but they work there anyway (the tri-band ones, anyway). I used one for a while, and got quite a few LOLs in the process (knockoff N95 FTW).
Pity Web'n'Walk is Europe-only. T-Mobile USA has data charges that I would consider unreasonable. Of course, we could see it too with the introduction of 3G to the States.
China is the exception. It's 2007 here and 1xRTT is *still* the fastest mobile data network we have here. I'm waiting for the deployment for WCDMA, but at least I'm confident that when it comes here, it'll be the same as Japan/Europe, unlike the US (stupid US, always going against the grain- the FCC just *had* to put GSM in 1900/850 instead of the more standard 1800MHz/900MHz which means that the WCDMA uplink has to be placed somewhere incompatible; yes, I know about the cordless phones, but the US is switching to digital TV from analog and offering compensation to those affected, and the same could have been done with cordless).
Someone needs glasses or a larger, more legible font.
Um... OK. I've only used mine (GPS phone, but it's a Toshiba, so don't know how much of a difference there is in the antenna between my phone and the N95) in China so far, and generally found that it works more slowly in the mountains than in urban areas (I get the 5-minute fix time too when in the mountains, and sometimes in Shanghai, but it's worked for me much better in Shanghai). And I was planning to switch to the N95 too... (my phone is currently broken in the headphone port and the GPS only gives me lat/longitude readings which I have to input into another Java app because it refuses to work nicely with the internal GPS; yeah, I need a better solution) looks like I'll wait for something better. Sorry for that dig at you- I had an off day, and I shouldn't have taken it out on you.
The guy you replied to is from Switzerland (judging by his e-mail address). The Alps probably get in the way of getting a good GPS fix for him.
You want a Casio G'Zone then- go to Verizon (or KDDI in Japan or LG Telecom in Korea- anywhere else and you're SOL).
Gee- the US is still stuck with the E2? The ROKR series over here (China) has moved on already- The Z6 is pretty much the Z3 done up with additional music functions (mostly what the E2 has, except that it has the A2DP Bluetooth profile as well as included wireless stereo headphones) and the E6 (movie-oriented, uses standard SD cards and runs Linux- a multimedia-oriented E680 done up in RAZR style) is for those that want a PDA rolled in with their entertainment machine. I personally say to go for the 803T myself if you want music, but to each their own.
Actually, as far as I can tell, Sony-Ericsson *is* Japanese (and part-Swedish too- from Ericsson, but the Sony side is showing more in this batch of phones). And BTW- my Toshiba 904T lasts for 3-4 days with heavy web usage/light talking, something that unfortunately can't be said of the last SE phone I had.
Can't the carriers use their control for *positive* changes? Sony Ericsson phones in Japan have 1+GB internal storage and microSD as well as Memory Stick- this wouldn't have happened without carrier pressure. This is what we need to see out of US carriers.
And this "incredibly well thought out and executed" security is only applied to the backend because...?
"The Chinese themselves don't care all that much for liberty at this point." Who are you speaking for? As a Chinese person (US-born, long-term resident of China) I have to say that you certainly aren't speaking for me!
I live in China, and I give a crap about it! No Wikipedia, and now no Flickr too... People like you make things worse for us out here!
Panasonic's laptops aren't, to name one example.
Webshots FTW! Stuck in Shanghai... want my Flickr account back.
How about putting the EULA outside the box then? The Best Buy near me won't take returns unless the product is defective; not agreeing to the EULA doesn't make the product defective, unfortunately.
"You mean the fact that media companies won't make their products easily available to the public to download at a reasonable price? Please. That justification for leeching didn't work when you were five, and it doesn't work now." That is not a justification. It is a complaint about the status of the music industry. When a CD I can buy here in Shanghai, China for $3 (real, licensed, and everything) costs $15 (or maybe more) in the States to buy (the CD I'm talking about is "Hikaru Utada singles collection vol. 1") something's wrong. They're not charging reasonable prices; they're charging the maximum that people in each market will pay for it. Here in China, they have to compete with counterfeits, so they *have* to charge a reasonable price or they won't get any sales at all.